CCW prohibited on trail

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Biker from Farmington, MO on 7/10/2008 10:30:14 AM:

According to the DNR, carrying concealed weapons is prohibited in Missouri's State Parks, which would include the Katy Trail.

I respect Ray (webmaster) for shutting down the quickly-deteriorating "gunrange" topic, but thought this might be OK to submit in terms of information, since several in the other topic were talking about how they bike CCW, or were looking forward to carrying their guns on the trail.

Hope that's OK.

Bike Cop from KCMO on 7/10/2008 5:06:27 PM:

After reading the rules and regs on the MO DNR website, all I found was a prohibition against hunting or discharging a firearm inside state parks. Nothing about ccw. Also the ccw laws for MO have no prohibitions in regards to state parks.

Paul Toigo on 7/10/2008 7:50:19 PM:

Just some facts:

1) In Independence, Missouri: An extremely popular mountain biking destination in the Kansas City area is Landahl Park. On the South edge of the trails is a gun range. There is a trail that skirts the North edge of the gun range called The Gun Barrel.

2) In Omaha, Nebraska: The Keystone Trail runs South out of town along the East side of The Big Pappillion Creek. On the West side of the creek is a shooting range called The Bullet Hole.

Biker from Farmington, MO on 7/11/2008 12:30:37 PM:

Please allow me to point out that the Katy Trail is not an urban, semi-urban, or even semi-rural trail. It is 225 miles long, is state property, RURAL for the most part, wends across the state of Missouri, and if someone is wounded (fatally or not), emergency response may be severely delayed or limited due to the rural nature of its various points of location.

Jim from St. Thomas on 7/11/2008 1:08:03 PM:

When people who use the trail start to want to control something that is "within earshot of the trail" I start to understand the landowners who oppose the trail. And as far emergency response times go....we already willingly take that risk everytime we go on the trail be it for crash and burns, heatstroke, lightening strikes, snakebites or any of the zillion things that might cause injury.

Robert from Columbia on 7/11/2008 1:13:53 PM:

I agree with Jim.

People should be able to do whatever they want to with their property. Some of those
decisions might upset some people. They might build a hog farm, turkey farm, stink
factory.....whatever.

Its their land....not "Biker" from farmington.

Remember that this could become a railroad again someday as well.

Biker from Farmington, MO on 7/11/2008 3:13:03 PM:

Thankfully, there are limits as to what people can do with their land, especially when those activities encroach upon and affect what people can do on "their" land (including hog farms, gun ranges, etc). Since many people pay taxes to support Missouri state parks, it could be considered the people's land. Sorry you seem to be taking this so personally.

As for snakebites, heatstroke, et. al., it could be argued that anyone could be killed by anything, certainly. But I was under the impression that guns were designed in order to kill in a particularly effective way, so I'm not sure you could put a gun-range and gun-toting bicyclists in the same classification as any of the other, more natural nuisances that might cause health problems (accidentally or intentionally) on the trail.

robert from columbia on 7/12/2008 4:46:43 PM:

You should know that virtually every farm you pass on your katy trail trips have guns in
them. Practically every truck you see in rural missouri has a gun in it and I would suppose
that some of the bikers and hikers that you see on the trail are carrying guns.

I think that CCW is (or should) be allowed on the trail because I bet there are women out
there who are too frightened (probably should not be) to walk/bike the trail by themselves
but if they could carry something to defend themselves with then they might feel
comfortable.

99.9999% chance they would never have to use it but it might just bring some new trail
users around.

gc from Columbia, Mo. on 7/14/2008 7:24:20 AM:

It might be a little hard to have a ready-to-use gun concealed under lycra and spandex.... sorry ;-)

Anonymous on 7/14/2008 9:49:47 AM:

i doubt the gun owners are the ones wearing spandex LOL

Jim from St. Thomas on 7/14/2008 2:25:12 PM:

Is that a concealed weapon or are you just glad to see me?

Anonymous on 7/14/2008 4:23:34 PM:

Two words there Jim.......Main.....Tain.

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