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Lynn from Pilot Grove on 09/17/2019 07:49 AM
Sent a question earlier but I did not include contact info. Heleneperera@gmail.com

Craft show vendors
Lynn from Pilot Grove on 09/17/2019 07:48 AM
Is it too late to be a vendor.? I sell goat milk soap and would be interested in a booth.

Biking to Fulton Mo
Tiirlough from St. Louis on 09/16/2019 10:19 AM
Has anyone biked the Katy Trail from the St. Louis area to Fulton Mo?

Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 09/16/2019 11:58 AM
Years ago a group of us rode from Hermann to Fulton and back. It was mainly a road ride but some of us used the Katy Trail on the way back. Looks like Hwy C from Mokane is the most direct route from the Katy to Fulton. However I think that we used a lot of back roads. I'll see if I can dig up the cue sheet when I get home later today.

Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 09/16/2019 07:33 PM
I found the cue sheet. It's mostly road; however, a lot of it is on Hwy 94 so it would be easy to stay on the Katy Trail instead of the highway.

00.0 North on Hwy 19/Main St.
01.0 Cross the Bridge
00.2 X Missouri River
01.7 L Hwy 94
05.7 S Rhineland
11.7 BR Hwy 94 – Bluffton
16.9 R Hwy D
21.9 L Hwy O
25.3 S Should be able to see the Calloway
Nuclear Plant on Left
37.3 S Becomes E. 2nd St.
37.7 X Bus. Hwy 54
37.7 R Nichols St.
37.9 R 5th St.
37.9 R Court St
38.0 S South on Court St.
38.1 L E 2nd St.
38.3 R Hwy C
43.7 BL Hwy C
44.7 BR Hwy C Hams Prairie
51.7 S Hwy C Molane
52.3 L Hwy 94
60.0 L Option to join KATY trail.
61.7 S Hwy 94 Portland
62.9 R Hwy 94
68.0 S Hwy 94 Blufton
74.2 S Hwy 94 Rhineland
78.0 R Hwy 19
79.8 Hermann – Finish!

Notes: There are long stretches without any place to get water or supplies. Bring your “big” bottles.

Looking for companies
Dary from Sedalia on 09/16/2019 06:57 PM
I am in Sedalia today am looking for a person how like to ride with my to Harttsburg tomorrow morning, please call if you like a company 9203711150

Sedalia to Rocheport on 9-13 to 9-15
LSMOBiker from Lees Summit on 09/16/2019 01:13 PM
Did three day ride with group of 8 over the weekend - Sedalia to Rocheport/ Rocheport to Jeff City/ Jeff City to Hermann. Great ride overall.

Start with the easiest section - Jeff City to Hermann. Trail was in great shape, just a couple places with some big ruts. The detour for the rockslide, at MM 118-117, was short and easy - just go south at the gravel road, east on 94 for a half mile or so across a bridge, and then back on the trail.

Sedalia to Rocheport - great shape until the detour at Boonville. The Boonville detour isn't bad - once you are over the bridge, short ride on 40, the gravel road turnoff come up quick, and then back on the trail.

The second detour, as has been said here, is gnarly and dangerous. Pop out the gravel parking lot on road 445 to Highway 40, and go east. Then you are on a busy highway, with little shoulder (and what there is has car rumbles), going up a huge hill. It stinks. Luckily cars gave us plenty of room. We elected to get off of 40 and hit the gravel road 440 into Rocheport, which though less trafficky, did have a pretty large hill at the end. This is the detour we all hated, and would've been worth a shuttle.

As far as Rocheport to Jeff City, as everyone knows there is a several mile section of trail after Cooper's Landing that is currently closed. We met a few people who arranged shuttling around it.

Since it is closed, we certainly couldn't advocate going through the trail in defiance of park regulations. Interestingly, though, we did talk to another, similar group of 8, who did brave the trail through the closed sections. They found about 20% sandy sections where they had to walk, 20% kind of overgrown sections which were still rideable, and 60% or so of just decent trail. Most of the sandy sections were said to be after Cooper's Landing. Overall, they said, it was not very hard, certainly not dangerous, and overall kind of a fun adventure to go through that section of trail. Lucky people, those 8.

For our 8 (who certainly didn't go through the closed section, and made some other arrangements which currently escape my recollection), the trail from Rocheport to Cooper's Landing was just perfect, shady and beautiful and wonderful. Hartsburg to Jeff City was in fine shape too.

A few other notes - we saw the Big Bur Oak Tree, it is right off the trail and worth a spot. 35th on Main in Hartsburg and Katarina's Cafe in Pilot Grove were great lunch spots. Abigail's in Rocheport was on point as usual, and Central Dairy in JC did not disappoint.
The Mokane Market made very serviceable sandwiches for our last day.

Enjoy your riding

School House B&B in Rocheport
DJ from Overland Park, KS on 09/16/2019 11:38 AM
We enjoyed a lovely stay here with 2 other couples during this past weekend. The owners could not have been more hospitable and every room was decorated beautifully. The storage shed was perfect for all our bikes and we were able to get in rides both before and after breakfast. The town, itself, is lovely too with a wonderful boutique just across the street and restaurants within walking distance. We will stay here again!

Bicycleguy from Topeka, Ks on 09/09/2019 06:51 PM
I understand there is a public park you can camp in at Boonville. Is that true and where is it ?

Sharonbikes from Kansas City on 09/10/2019 09:00 PM
I don't know if there is or not - we always camp at the Roundhouse In Franklin - it's just across the bridge from Boonville. Very nice campsite, clean shower house, reasonable price and owned by good folks.


Bicycleguy from Topeka, Ks on 09/11/2019 08:56 AM
Sharon, any camping recommendations for Herman

Allen from Shawnee on 09/11/2019 09:27 AM
City park in Herman
Next: Ball fields in Marthasville
Next: Klondike park just east of Augusta

kevin from topeka on 09/12/2019 03:17 PM
Thanks for all tour help

Bikerbob from Kechi on 09/15/2019 11:12 PM
Regarding bicycleguy from Topeka's camping questions.
We also camp just north of Booneville at the Roundhouse campground. (A 'Roundhouse" is where trains used to turn around at). Quiet, beautiful, clean and clean showers.
Then going east the next place is Coopers Landing at Easley, or Hartsburg, or Jeff City, depending on what mileage you want to do.
Next is Steamboat Junction campground between Bluffton and Rhineland, right on the trail. It also has a nice shower house but only one person can use the shower at a time. The other drawback is there is only a porta-potty for a toilet. However, it is very conveniently located.
Next is Hermann, in the city park.
Next may be Marthasville, depending on what mileage you want. You can camp on the south side of the ball diamonds, which is their city activity area so the bathrooms are open and have showers.
Then Klondike Park, a few miles east of Augusta. Be sure to stop at one of the wineries in Augusta and the brewery too. Brewery has good food. Be aware that the brewery on Friday and Saturday days and nights in October is busy, and call ahead to check their hours as they are reduced through the week after September. Happy Trails.

Trail Conditions Report 9-17-19
Rivers on 09/15/2019 07:58 PM
We rode from Sedalia thru St. Charles, fully loaded on 35mm tires and camping. Followed detours around Rocheport, Coopers/Easley and rock slide near KT118. Coopers/Easley was a workout and we pushed up one hill. Our main issues were finding groceries and water as it was over 90 degrees most days. Still a nice trip.

The Whole Katy Trail Aug 25 - Aug 30
Karl Brand from Missouri City, TX on 09/03/2019 06:39 AM
This past week (Aug 25 - Aug 30, 2019), two of my cycling-club friends rode from Clinton to St Charles. They provided their GPX files, which I am happy to share. These are helpful because they show the location of the detours, which they took during their ride. I would post them them, but this site has no provision for posting attachments. Most of the detours were on Missouri Hwy 94. If interested, I will send them to your email address.

Tony from Arcadia,Mo on 09/03/2019 07:21 AM
What was the condition of the trail between Hartsburg an Dutzow?

Karl Brand from Missouri City, TX on 09/03/2019 08:53 AM

Between Hartsburg and Dutzow, my friends detoured as follows (West to East):

West of Portland: Take Schmid Rd to MO Hwy 94 CR 476; CR 476 back to the Trail.

At Bluffton take MO Hwy 94 for approx 2.3 miles, then hop back on the Trail.

At Case us Case Rd to detour around damaged bridge.

East of Gore take MO Hwy 94 to Hwy N to Treloar and back to the Trail

At Marthasville take Main Street/Hwy D to Boone Monument Rd to Trail

Ray (webmaster) from on 09/05/2019 02:15 PM
Karl, thank you for sharing the gpx data!

Below are the comments from Karl's friends, and a downloadable link under each for the gpx. The gpx files are large, so when you click the link, it will take a minute for the file to download, so please be patient.

Different browsers will act differently: Chrome will just download immediately, while IE and Firefox will prompt you before the download starts.

By the way, I hid all the posts of people asking for the files. This will prevent spammers from finding the email addresses, and keep this thread down to the posts with info

Day 1: No Comments… Clinton to Sedalia

Day 2: 1 flat, 2 washed out detours and the last hour in the rain! Still having a blast!

Day 3: Started off smooth.. Then a detour that took us on Gravel roads up a get off the bike and push climb then hit a mud pit and topped it off with a flat! Beautiful weather though!

Day 4: A near perfect day with perfect weather. 66-90 deg. We had 1 detour on a flat smooth road for 1 mile around a rock slide with tailwind and a few downed trees.

Day 5: Another splendid day.. We had a couple of easy detours around a few washed out sections. See Map

Day 6: Today’s ride started off with the Detour into Klondike Park and was about 16% for a 100 ft climb but the park was worth it.. The lake is beautiful.

Comments: The worst was Day 3 by far. The elevation of the Detour was abrupt and crazy gravel in some spots but was the shortest route. Most of the Detours were short and on 94, parallel to the trail.

Donald from Whitely bay on 09/05/2019 03:36 PM
Thanks Karl and Ray these gpx file will be invaluable, esp after 24hrs of travelling just to get to the trail.

Cheers Don

Frank from Springfield on 09/10/2019 08:21 PM
Is the Blockage around mile 117, east or west of Sycamore Road where it connects to 476, and can you pass Schmidt Road (going east on Katy) and take Sycamore Road and 476 or Sycamore Road and 94 to avoid 94 from Schmidt Road to Sycamore Road, or from Sycamore Road to 94 /476 ?

HP from Strafford on 09/13/2019 01:23 PM
Frank -
For the trail closure around MM117 - here's what I know, hopefully it helps.
Riding West to East, we passed Hwy 464 and then when we got to the next road - Schmid Way, the trail was closed going any further east. We took Schmid Way out to Hwy 94. We actually got picked up at that point, but it was our plan (based on seeing other reports on the detour) to ride East on Hwy 94 and go over the Logan Creek Bridge. After going over the bridge, we planned to take the next right and get back to the Katy from there. If you look at this on a map, it should be fairly easy to see. We talked to a few other riders who had gone past the closure notice at Schmid Way thinking that they could get through. They had to turn around and come back. You definitely cannot ride the Katy through the closure and have to use Hwy 94 detour. Hope this helps.

Doug from Bluffton on 09/14/2019 08:46 PM
As soon as you go over the Katy Trail on 94 at Logan creek you take a LEFT and come back down to the trail.

Ray (webmaster) on 09/15/2019 06:48 AM
Here are some screenshots that Frank sent to help illustrate his question above about the detour (3 posts up). He explained "Apple maps shows sycamore valley road going on south to connect back to 94 east of Schmidt Road, but Google doesn't. I had tried to ask if that was an option for the detour, maybe taking Schmidt to 94 (apparently you have to), 94 east a bit, then sycamore road north to 476 and connecting (maybe) to 94, and eventually the Katy.".

Doug from Bluffton on 09/15/2019 05:11 PM
OK if you are bound and determined NOT to ride the little bit of 94 around the bluff collapse at mm 118 Then Schmid Way 464 is NOT what you want to do. It is a private drive now. The way to do it is by taking 459 (the second gravel road east of Steedman) north about 100 yards then 468 east (right) about 2 miles then 469 south (right) about 1 miles to 94 at Portland. Jog left right down to trail. You will climb and of course descend, a large hill. In loose gravel. With local car and truck traffic with less room than 94. This can be ridden. But why? 94 is flat clear open and only 1/4 of a mile.

rocheport to jefferson city
Marie from Minnesota on 09/13/2019 04:50 PM
Planning to ride this week. What are the conditions between Booneville and Jefferson city?

Trail Closures
Paul from Ohio from Columbus on 09/10/2019 07:57 AM
I have seen conflicting reports about closures between Booneville and Jefferson City. Are the reports on the parks page accurate? Particularly, McBane to Hartsburg seem to be questionable. Any insights are appreciated.

Tony from EDWARDSVILLE on 09/10/2019 10:53 AM
Any info people have about this would be helpful. Planning a trip in the coming weeks.

HP from Strafford on 09/13/2019 01:32 PM
I had no issues from Rocheport to Easley. I did not ride from Easley to Hartsburg. I spoke to a another biker on this forum who had tried it and he said that a strong rider on a mountain bike would be able to do it. It was very rough, sections with large gravel, long sections of sand/silt that required walking the bike through it. It can be done, but it just depends on how much time and effort you want to spend to complete these 10 miles as it sounds like they will wear you out fairly quickly.

BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 09/13/2019 01:52 PM
New Franklin to Rocheport is closed with a detour available on Hwy 40. You may be OK with it or not, depending on your experience riding on fast roads. It's not for me -- I am strictly a trail guy.

Rock Island to Katy Trail trail conditions
Jharte from Kansas City on 09/10/2019 07:56 PM
Just a quick note before it gets dark! I started my trip at the Pleasant Hill City Lake this morning. I'm planning on updating this forum with trail conditions as I go.
From the Pleasant Hill City Lake to Sedalia the trail is very good with no issues. Between MM 240 and 239 the trail was a little loose but other than that, very good condition.
Important note: Medford has water!! Woot! I talked to a couple of the Parks Department guys and they just finished installing the water fountain this morning (9/10). Tell everyone!
It's dark now, 75 mi day fully loaded. Time for food and a nap. More updates tomorrow.

GGL from KC, MO on 09/11/2019 02:20 PM
Jharte, thanks for your feedback. My friend and I plan to ride from Clinton to St. Charles on 9/20 and look forward to your comments and input regarding various detours.



Jharte from Kansas City on 09/12/2019 01:30 PM
Hello Gary. I got as far as Cooper's Landing in Easley and cut my trip short. The trail is still closed at just East of Booneville (right at Kingsbury Siding). The detour is easy (not too dangerous). The next trail closure is at Mile Marker 181.5 to Rocheport. That closure/detour is very dangerous. There is a long steep hill to climb to get into Rocheport. The road was recently repaved, no shoulder, rumble strips at the edge, and traffic was heavy. A nice gentleman in a black pickup caught up to me 1/3 the way up and gave me a ride into Rocheport. He told me he was recently hit by a car on that road.
I've been commuting/bike touring over 40 years. That detour into Rocheport is one of the most dangerous roads I've been on. If you can find a shuttle or some transportation for that stretch, that would make for a much safer/enjoyable trip. Safe travels!

Allen from Shawnee on 09/13/2019 08:14 AM
Hi there ,
What time of day did you do the detour to Rocheport. There are so many different descriptions from riders about this detour, ranging from terrifying to no problem. I’m thinking the time of day may be in play. Maybe rush hour is very busy and other times of day aren’t.
Sorry you had to cut your trip short. I hope you have better luck next time.

HP from Strafford on 09/13/2019 12:58 PM
I thought the same - maybe time of day or day of the week would matter on the Hwy 40 detour between Boonville and Rocheport since I was seeing varying reports as well. However, I don't think that is the case. I was going through there on a Friday midday, and the road was super busy at that time. The cars are going very fast and there isn't much of a shoulder. We had family close, so we called for a shuttle around the highway detour.

Place to stay overnight
Baba from Green bay ,Wi on 09/08/2019 01:56 PM
I am driving from green bay to St Charles and looking for a place to stay Overnight any suggestion, Thanks

Jerry Whittle from Belleville Illinois on 09/09/2019 08:27 AM
The Comfort Suites in St. Charles is close to the Katy Trail. I've stayed there a few times in the past.


Tyann (Missouri Haus) from Marthasville on 09/09/2019 09:15 AM
Depending on availability, my Bird Haus is an option. I do 1 night stays for bicyclists during the week. It is located a block up from the Katy Trail, next to the Stone Chapel: https://missourihaus.com/birdhaus

Paul from Ohio from Columbus on 09/12/2019 09:34 AM
I'm stating at the Best Western which is just a few blocks from the trail.

Clinton Transportation
Mary from St. Louis on 09/11/2019 12:34 PM
My husband and I are planning to bike East to West. St Louis to Clinton. We don't plan on biking back. Any suggestions for getting back to STL? Is there a train near by?

Mary from St. Louis on 09/11/2019 12:48 PM
How would someone get back to STL from Clinton if they didn't want to bike back?

LS Biker from Lee’s Summit on 09/11/2019 10:09 PM
There’s an Amtrak station in Lee’s Summit and one in Sedalia. Look up the schedule for the Missouri River Runner on the Amtrak website & you’re good to go.

Doug from Bluffton on 09/12/2019 07:04 AM
There are also shuttle services that you can use. Cost more than train fare unless you have a group but they meet you at your location and time and take you directly to where you want to go.

Lindenhof Bed & Breakfast in Augusta
Kate from Connecticut on 09/10/2019 06:12 PM
Kathy was a wonderful host and made us feel extremely welcome coming off the Trail! She had fresh-baked cookies and breads as well as fruit, coffee, and soft drinks available for us. She accommodated our need to get on the trail early the following morning, which was so appreciated. She was friendly and engaging. The rooms were immaculate and extremely comfortable. Thanks for a great stay Kathy!

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