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Why was I a bet n cause of any bar fight not on me JK or not
 -  + Wrong dad's last wish on his death bed for me n Jennifer my real sister Scott n me to be covered peacefully America family insurance company state farm to with myria go fund her sponsor ship beauty pa...
Discussion started 02/28/24 10:46:54 PM by Amber Dawn Schultz - 10 replies (last reply by Bill R. at 02/29/24 9:02:52 PM)
Amber Dawn Schultz from Pilot Grove on 02/28/24 10:46:54 PM
Wrong dad's last wish on his death bed for me n Jennifer my real sister Scott n me to be covered peacefully America family insurance company state farm to with myria go fund her sponsor ship beauty pageants I love my family and friends of course bar fish fry Chris hell rat race on me

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 02/28/24 11:15:49 PM
Friends don’t let friends drink and text.

 
anonymous on 02/29/24 6:53:33 AM
At least they posted with a name and didn’t post as anonymous. That should give Amber a lil credibility even though her post made no sense.

 
Ricky Bobby from Talladega on 02/29/24 9:58:19 AM
I bet they've been thrown out of an Applebee's a few times.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 02/29/24 10:34:39 AM
A regular at Deon’s no doubt………

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 02/29/24 6:41:52 PM
Lest anyone take my previous comment the wrong way, that was a dig at Deon’s - if I lived in Pilot Grove I would be a regular there. And most likely putting out similar late night texts.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 02/29/24 6:44:42 PM
Sorry……that was NOT a dig at Deon’s.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 02/29/24 7:06:47 PM
Whew, you almost got banned for life at Deon’s.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 02/29/24 7:41:13 PM
After seeing the original post, I was going to remove this discussion... but you guys were having too much fun with it for me to take it down.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 02/29/24 8:02:35 PM
Thanks Ray, you da man. \_/



 
Bill R. from Wentzville on 02/29/24 9:02:52 PM
You need an Enigma machine to decipher that original post. Whew. But I'm sure there is some subliminal message contained therein.


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Globe Hotel Bed & Breakfast in Hartsburg
 -  + Hi when will Globe be open for reservation for biking season for 2024? In need of reservation for October 2024. Is there a contact to reach now?
Discussion started 01/27/24 9:19:33 PM by Dennis Chisholm - 10 replies (last reply by Leaia Clervi, Hartsburg at 02/28/24 12:26:34 PM)
Dennis Chisholm from Pylesville, Maryland on 01/27/24 9:19:33 PM
Hi when will Globe be open for reservation for biking season for 2024? In need of reservation for October 2024. Is there a contact to reach now?

 
anonymous on 01/29/24 9:19:06 AM
Lodging
Restored hotel from 1800's
Hartsburg MO
60 S 2nd St.
573-657-4529

Globe Hotel Bed & Breakfast is located on the Katy Trail, in Hartsburg MO

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 02/10/24 9:18:42 PM
The Globe Hotel B&B is an exceptional accommodation. Excellent rooms/great breakfast/outstanding hosts. You'll find many comments attesting to this under the Hartsburg link on the map. The only caveat is for Hartsburg, not the Globe. Depending on your date and time of arrival, lunch and dinner options are few.

 
Anne on 02/13/24 8:03:02 AM
Don’t go. Globe was a huge disappointment. Hosts were incredibly rude. We felt like an imposition. No food. Average rooms. Biggest disappointment of the loveliest trail and experience. Stay anywhere but here.

 
Leaia Clervi from Hartsburg on 02/13/24 9:23:59 AM
Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast will not be open in 2024.

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 02/15/24 9:26:24 PM
It is unfortunate that the Globe will not be open in 2024. Don't know the reason but am sure it is a good one. It is most unfortunate that all the comments about the Globe seem to have disappeared from the forum except the final one (2/13/24) which emphatically does not represent reviews from the previous years. Best wishes to the Clervi in their future endeavors.

 
Leaia Clervi from Hartsburg on 02/16/24 8:38:59 AM
Thank you, Curt M. We have tried our best. We appreciate your comment and weren't aware the others have been taken down.For the past three years our family situation has taken up most of our energy. It's time for us to move on. The Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast in Hartsburg will be for sale. Our hope is to find new owners who will reopen it as a bed and breakfast, or we may find someone interested in managing it for us.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 02/16/24 10:58:29 AM
You will definitely be missed, and I hope it all works out well for you guys.

I have removed the Globe Hotel from the Hartsburg page for now, but the Globe Hotel info page at https://bikekatytrail.com/globe-hotel-bed-breakfast.aspx will remain online with a note explaining that it's closed for now.

The Globe Hotel has long been a favored spot on the Katy Trail. The web page mentioned above has approximately 40 forum comments about the Globe - overwhelmingly positive. There are actually dozens more glowing comments in the forum, spread across the many pages.

Thank you for being part of the Katy Trail community, and for giving so many people so many happy memories.

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 02/17/24 10:05:26 AM
Leaia and Mark, I am sorry to hear about your family situation and also about the Globe not opening. You should not be disappointed -- we know you did your best; we saw first-hand how much care you put into restoring the hotel and creating wonderful meals.

The truth is that businesses like the Globe provide not only income for the owners and taxes for the area, but they give an incentive to preserve historical places without taxpayer dollars. The Globe started as a railroad hotel, and you can envision the thousands of railroad workers who used it as their layover spot after a long day. Saving that history is what Mark and Leaia have done on our behalf. But they (indeed, any of us) can only take it so far. These are private businesses and properties, but they all need our support to survive.

So pay attention, MO politicians because your decisions have consequences! If you approve the full Rock Island Trail, businesses like the Globe and Bluffton Barn might have the chance to make it. Certainly, the appeal of a 400+ mile loop would bring more active. high-spending tourists to the state. And, the many small towns along the Rock Island have equally historic and interesting businesses. They don't even have their chance to shine in the sun because the politicians are prioritizing extra highway lanes and other unneeded projects instead of taking advantage with what we have already been given.

 
DS Douin from KT on 02/28/24 10:01:22 AM
BB, I would direct the MO politicians and bike groups, if the Rock Island trail and KT's continued success are a priority, to increase the lobbying effort to the Hoffman enterprise since they see a real economic benefit for the area.

 
Leaia Clervi from Hartsburg on 02/28/24 12:26:34 PM
Globe Hotel Bed and Breakfast will remain closed in 2024. We are preparing to move and sell. Any further queries may continue to email: globehotelbedandbreakfast@gmail.com.

If you wish to hold political discussions please begin a new discussion in a separate Subject Matter on this forum.




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scenic parts of the trail
 -  + planning a 5-7 day trip this coming fall with beginning riders. planning to ride 25-30 miles a day. I want to maximize our time on the most scenic areas of the ride. We also plan to add a few train ri...
Discussion started 02/23/24 8:41:27 PM by mimi - 4 replies (last reply by mimi at 02/27/24 3:30:00 PM)
mimi from Bellingham on 02/23/24 8:41:27 PM
planning a 5-7 day trip this coming fall with beginning riders. planning to ride 25-30 miles a day. I want to maximize our time on the most scenic areas of the ride. We also plan to add a few train rides in to get from place to place. We are riding west to east.

Any recommendations?

 
Doug from Bluffton on 02/24/24 9:45:13 AM
If you call me at Bluffton Barn I'd be glad to answer questions and help you know what to decide. Would need to know if you are driving in, flying and then using a shuttle, how many in your group etc. in order to help you.

 
Alan from Sedalia on 02/24/24 9:45:58 AM
The 15 miles between Rocheport and Easley is a must see. You have river views on one side and bluffs on the other. Rocheport has lodging and restaurants and Easley has camping and refreshments at Coopers Landing.

 
anonymous on 02/26/24 8:52:08 AM
Most scenic, or most majestic.....Rocheport tunnel east to Huntsdale.

We've ridden between Sedalia and St. Charles numerous times. Sedalia to Weldon Springs is our favorite. Have no experience on the trail between Clinton and Sedalia.

Some of the most enjoyable times riding has been in the open farmland and under the tree covered canopies.

All that aside, with 5-7 days you've enough time to cover the entire trail and determine which parts you liked best.

 
mimi from Bellingham on 02/27/24 3:30:00 PM
Thanks for the insights! Very helpful!


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Cruses Cabooses
 -  +  Cruses Cabooses has never shut down it does close for the winter time . the cabooses are open from April to October Iam the new owner my name is Rick Fosnow and phone # is 1-660-525-6395 or my wife...
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rick fosnow from windsor mo on 02/18/24 7:28:54 PM
Cruses Cabooses has never shut down it does close for the winter time . the cabooses are open from April to October Iam the new owner my name is Rick Fosnow and phone # is 1-660-525-6395 or my wife # 1-660-525-6394 we will be open for the 2024 season


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Pleasant Hill - Lee's Summit Amtrak - RI Spur progress?
 -  + Any further developments on the Rock Island Spur toward Lee's Summit. Planning a Train out / Ride back this fall. Wondering if Pleasant Hill to LS Station is any easier now - Have not seen any recent ...
Discussion started 06/07/21 3:56:43 PM by Mark - 5 replies (last reply by Eric at 02/18/24 2:32:26 PM)
Mark from Bentonville on 06/07/21 3:56:43 PM
Any further developments on the Rock Island Spur toward Lee's Summit. Planning a Train out / Ride back this fall. Wondering if Pleasant Hill to LS Station is any easier now - Have not seen any recent (last 3 years) posts about that segment.

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 06/07/21 4:50:41 PM
The Rock Island Trail has been extended from Lee's Summit to the northwest to the Arrowhead/Royals baseball stadium complex. That section is 99% done and will officially open next month, but cyclists are already riding it. There are 6 segments still to be funded to connect Lee's Summit with the existing Pleasant Hill MOPAC/Rock Island Trail. Currently segments 1, 2, and 6 are funded for construction in 2022 and 2023, but segments 3, 4, and 5 could easily take 8-10 more years to build unless someone makes it a priority. There are low volume county roads that people take to ride the trail gap from Lee's Summit to Pleasant Hill, but you need to be comfortable with onroad riding. I personally take the really low volume routes and link up several of the 8' wide sidewalk trails so I really cut down on the two lane roads that carry significant car traffic.

 
Mark from Bentonville on 06/09/21 2:20:01 PM
Are there detailed maps of this new section between Lee's Summit and KC? I had not heard of this.

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 06/09/21 6:55:01 PM
If you search the Jackson County Rock Island Rail Corridor Authority, you will find some good maps of the new 7 mile extension to the stadium complex. Crane Brewery is right along this section of the trail in Raytown. The Facebook group The Rock Island Trail (Kansas City to Pleasant Hill) has tons of information and I have posted detailed maps about the future trail expansions that will eventually connect Lee's Summit and Pleasant Hill.

 
Deb from Belton on 02/17/24 3:14:21 PM
How far is the bike trail from LS Hartman Trail head to Crane Brewey?

 
Eric from KCMO on 02/18/24 2:32:26 PM
Use Google Maps, search for Hartman Park. Click on get directions and type Crane Brewing, click the bicycle icon so it will route you by available trails. Your route, miles (8) and elevation (279’) along the way will be provided. Click the little up/down arrow on right side to reverse the route.

Parking and shuttles
 -  + We are planning on riding the KT in April 2024 from west to east. Any recommendations on the best parking options, Clinton v. St. Charles at the Bike Stop Cafe? Is one safer than the other?
Discussion started 02/10/24 10:48:06 AM by Melanie - 1 reply (last reply by SCOTT at 02/15/24 2:40:04 PM)
Melanie from Des Moines, IA on 02/10/24 10:48:06 AM
We are planning on riding the KT in April 2024 from west to east. Any recommendations on the best parking options, Clinton v. St. Charles at the Bike Stop Cafe? Is one safer than the other?

 
SCOTT from OKC on 02/15/24 2:40:04 PM
The Clinton Comm Center will let you park your vehicle in their lot for a few days. They used to hold you car keys until Tony from Bike Stop Cafe would come pick up your vehicle - but no longer! You will have to fill out an ID form about your vehicle and they'll want you to park "out" in the parking lot, away from the entry. I've parked a vehicle there twice and had no problems. Bike Stop Cafe is the way to go for vehicle transfer from Clinton to St. Charles, in my humble opinion. I've ridden the awesome Katy Trail twice, Oct 22 and Oct 23. I've only used the BSC for vehicle transfer, it's not cheap, but they have your vehicle waiting for you right there - at the Bike Stop Cafe. We stayed at the Country Inn and Suites, it's really close.
This past Oct when my wife and I traversed the KT is when the Comm Ctr would not take my car keys. I contacted BSC and Tony met us at Green Ridge on our 2nd day to pick up our keys to move our vehicle. Next year, I'm just going to mail a key in advance to the BSC. Food for thought!
Enjoy the ride! It's beautiful!


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 -  + Is there anywhere to eat if we camp in Hartsburg? Looks like nothing until tebbetts? Breakfast options?
Discussion started 01/31/24 1:10:17 PM by Jodie - 3 replies (last reply by Hiking America at 02/01/24 9:47:28 AM)
Jodie from St Louis on 01/31/24 1:10:17 PM
Is there anywhere to eat if we camp in Hartsburg? Looks like nothing until tebbetts? Breakfast options?

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 01/31/24 1:39:16 PM
There is Jefferson City, half way between Hartsburg and Tebbetts. Tons of food options, bars and places to spend the night, plus you get to experience the bike/pedestrian bridge crossing the Missouri River.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 01/31/24 3:49:38 PM
There is no place to get food in Tebbetts unless you contact Rachel at Happy Trails Katy-ring ahead of time. She and her girls provide an excellent breakfast.

https://bikekatytrail.com/happy-trails-katy-ring.aspx


If you want to eat in JC but don’t want to do the extra miles to cross the bridge to get downtown, you can get a good breakfast at the Landing Zone located at JC’s small airport every day except Wednesday.
https://landingzonemo.com/

 
Hiking America on 02/01/24 9:47:28 AM
Two places to eat in Hartsburg, but none for breakfast off-season.
There's the Hartsburg Hitching Post - M-Th 4p-Mid, F-Sa 3p-1a, Su 12-Mid
"The Burg" is only open on Friday and Sat nights during the off-season And Thurs-Sun in season.
In-season, The Berg serves breakfast on Saturday and Sunday mornings.


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 -  + My wife and I are both retired and love to ride our bikes on the Katy and other trails close to home. I'm wondering what requirements or recommendations in order to provide shuttle service for tra...
Discussion started 01/30/24 4:19:16 PM by Gary - 2 replies (last reply at 01/31/24 11:56:18 PM)
Gary from Washington on 01/30/24 4:19:16 PM
My wife and I are both retired and love to ride our bikes on the Katy and other trails close to home.

I'm wondering what requirements or recommendations in order to provide shuttle service for trail users. We have a 2018 GMC Denali with covered bed and a Swagman E-bike, 2 bike carrier. I'm willing to provide shuttle services within reasonable distances from Washington. Fully insured, but would like to know what else I need to be legal and covered.

 
anonymous on 01/30/24 9:48:22 PM
Looks like it’s time to seek the advice of an attorney.

 
anonymous on 01/31/24 3:00:47 PM
This might be a good place to start thinking about what will be required:

https://missouribusiness.net/how-to-get-a-business-license-in-missouri/

Other considerations:
How often are you willing to provide the service?
What Trailheads will you service?
How many people with their bikes and gear can you comfortably carry?
Will you be charging for the service or provide it free or accept donations?

Once you have it worked out, then check with an attorney to see if there are any holes in your plan.


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Country Inn & Suites On Historic Main Street in St Charles
 -  + We are planning to drive . . Is there a shuttle from here to Rock island trail ? Also is there a safe place to leave my car?
Discussion started 01/10/24 12:10:27 PM by Wanderer - 2 replies (last reply by Eric at 01/27/24 12:55:51 PM)
Wanderer from Kings Mtn on 01/10/24 12:10:27 PM
We are planning to drive . . Is there a shuttle from here to Rock island trail ? Also is there a safe place to leave my car?

 
SCOTT from OKC on 01/26/24 2:08:11 PM
Call the Bike Stop Cafe in St. Charles, they provide shuttle services.
We stayed at the Country Inn and Suites, great hotel. Short walk to the BSC.

 
Eric from KCMO on 01/27/24 12:55:51 PM
Key security idea: Some of you have discussed or considered parking your vehicle and shuttling back to it with your bike versus having a company drive YOUR vehicle to the opposite end of the trail where it will wait for you upon arrival/completing the trial. In 2021 I rode the Katy but began in Kansas, rode all the way to Illinois and back into Missouri, finishing at Gateway Arch and Busch Stadium. I took the Amtrak back to KC, so moving a car wasn’t an issue. A few months ago I rode the awesome Mickelson Trail in South Dakota. I only had a few days to ride and didn’t have a support person to pick me up. I considered using a shuttle, but decided I wanted to hire Black Hills Discovery Tours to drive my truck to Edgemont, at the other end of the trail. This is more expensive than the shuttle for a solo rider but would cost about the same as two riders, plus I don’t have to ride the shuttle that two hours back. Remember when considering the cost whether it’s the Katy or the Mick it takes two people to shuttle a vehicle because the driver needs a ride back. Back to key security….i was uneasy about my keys being left hidden in my truck for a day, or longer. I purchased a real estate type key box from amazon for $20. Originally I was going to return it and get my money back but decided to keep it for future trips or if I have someone coming to my house to leave a key. This box has a combination that can be set easily to whatever four digit code I want. To make it easy for Bill at Black Hills Discovery Tours I set the code to the last four digits of his phone number. I then locked the key box to the tie down hook in the bed of my truck, but if you have a hitch receiver or roof rack it could go there, maybe even to a door handle…you get the idea. The box is pretty rugged and would take time, tools and effort to force entry into. Obviously there is some risk of theft with keys inside the box, however people/thugs steal cars by breaking in then damaging the steering column or ignition all the time without keys available.
https://www.amazon.com/Capacity-Storage-Resettable-Combination-Waterproof/dp/B09NBQW6D2


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