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Joey's Bird House B&B in McKittrick
Paula from BETHEL on 06/03/2020 01:31 PM
Can't say enough great about Joey's Birdhouse! My daughter and I were biking from St. Charles to McKittrick on our first day's journey. Joey texted me to say the skies were ugly and wondering how we were. We were 10 miles out and stepped it up to beat the rain - which we didn't! Joey met us with a hose for our bikes and us as well as bike rags and WD-40! Our stuff was soaked so Joey put everything in the dryer. We had snacks for the night, a delicious garden fresh breakfast the next morning, and fruit to go for the trail. We appreciated everything so much - especially since there weren't many eating places open yet. Plan a stop in McKittrick no matter which way you are traveling!!

Gravel Road option for Rocheport Detour
Susan from Iowa on 06/01/2020 07:10 PM
I'm wondering if anyone has taken the gravel road 442 through the Dale Conservation Area as an option to US40 detour between Booneville and Rocheport. If so, what is the road surface/condition like? https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30955310

BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 06/02/2020 09:59 AM
I am familiar with a couple of the roads next to 442, and the gravel is larger than the "chat" gravel on the Katy. I am likely heading that way on Saturday and will drive it to see if it's passable. Since it goes up the river bluffs, there are frequent washouts after rains, which makes it more difficult. I will try to post back here on Sunday.

Susan from Iowa on 06/03/2020 09:27 AM
Thanks BikerBoy. I will be riding a gravel bike with 37mm tires

Clifton City cliffs
Anonymous on 05/31/2020 12:14 PM
On Instagram there are a bunch of pictures of people on a cliff tagged Clifton City, Missouri.

Does anybody know how to access this from the Katy? Thanks

Jim from St. Thomas on 05/31/2020 03:33 PM
You can post a link if you like but I would be surprised to see someone sitting on a bluff along the trail at Clifton CIty. That section is a lot of roling farmland. Where you do find bluffs along the trail they are almost always on private property and, while there are those riders who think their desire to go wherever they want gives them the right to trespass, most property owners along the trail disagree.

Trail conditions
Jean from Imperial MO on 05/29/2020 10:07 AM
Is the trail open from Weldon Springs to Augusta? Wasn’t sure with all the rain.
Wanting to ride on Saturday

Connie from St Charles on 05/31/2020 03:26 PM
We rode Weldon Spring to Defiance yesterday and there were many people on the trail while we didn't go all the way to Augusta, I would think that it's open. I did read a Missouri River flooding information and the only place for flooding reported is east of St Charles, toward Machens.

Lost & Found
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 10/24/2011 12:23 PM
Found a water bottle in a neoprene cover with clip east of Hartsburg.

Andrew from Olathe KS on 03/02/2020 07:52 PM
On Sunday 3/1/20 I lost a 16” wheel for my sons bike that I pull behind his trailer for when he wants to ride. We were coming from Jefferson and realized it was gone 10 miles from Coopers. There was a red flannel shirt a green camping chair and a part from the trailer that says Santa Cruz on it. Anyone find it please let me know. If you could stash it in the woods with a GPS location that would be great.
Thanks for any help

Anonymous from Kansas City on 05/30/2020 06:06 PM
Hi! I lost my prescription glasses somewhere between Jefferson City and Portland (we’re thinking closer to Mokane) on Saturday, May 30th. They’re Warby Parker brand in a black case. If you find them, we’re driving back in four days and could pick them up. Thanks!

Riding tomorrow between Rocheport and Booneville
Paul Kenslow from Kansas City on 05/29/2020 09:48 PM
My wife and I and a couple friends are planning a ride tomorrow May 30 early afternoon between Rocheport in Boonville. A couple of friends told me we should check into trail conditions based on all of the rain and flooding. Anyone have any details on trail conditions through that stretch currently?

Ann Onamous from Monroe City on 05/30/2020 12:15 PM
You can check out river stages on the Missouri river at this site
Right now it looks like it is mostly minor flooding and will be below flood stage by the end of the first week in June.

Trail condition?
Keith from Benton, Ky on 05/23/2020 07:05 AM
I plan to ride the katy trail and the rock island trail from St Charles to Lee's Summit in mid June. Can anyone tell me the condition of the trail after last year's flooding?

Keith on 05/26/2020 08:34 AM

Anonymous on 05/26/2020 08:52 AM
There is a Trail Condition icon on the home page. You may want to try that Keith. Or perhaps scroll down through this Forum to see posts about the trail. You don't have to scroll too far to find posts about the condition of the trail.

Keith on 05/29/2020 11:22 PM
Thank you

Augusta or Washington Accommodations
Tom from Ohio from Mount Vernon, Ohio on 05/28/2020 01:19 PM
I am planning a Katy Trail tour this fall. I was going to stay in Augusta the last night before heading to St. Charles the last day. I am riding with 8 friends. I cannot find a hotel or B&B can accommodate the group. The cost of lodging in Augusta is high. I found accommodations in Washington, both B&B, and hotel. What are your thoughts about overnighting in Washington? Is Augusta the better option? Is the route from the Dutzow trailhead safe to cycle to Washington?

John from Pacific on 05/29/2020 05:58 AM
Riding from Dutzow to Washington depends on your group's comfort with riding on roads. Hwy 47 is fairly busy but there is a wide enough shoulder that you can stay out of the traffic lane and cars don't need to go around you. The bridge over the river to Washington is new and has a dedicated bike lane, although I don't know if the bike lane is open yet. If not the traffic lane has a nice 10' shoulder. I've ridden from Washington to Dutzow and would do it again without worry.

Tyann (Bank Haus and Katy Haus) from Marthasville on 05/29/2020 07:39 AM
Happy to have you at The Bank Haus in Marthasville, right on the trail and next to Philly's Pizza. It's 4 bedrooms and sleeps up to 12 people. Perfect for the last night or first night on the trail for a group of people. I also have The Katy Haus next door that is 1 bedroom and sleeps up to 5 people. Both houses are handicapped accessible and dog friendly as well.

In Washington, less than a mile from the bridge, we have our River Haus that is 3 bedrooms and sleeps 10 people.

More info and direct booking at missourihaus.com.

Crossing our fingers the bike lane on the WashMo bridge opens soon. The delay has been that the old bridge must be completely removed from the river, and the river level can’t be above 17 feet for the company to get their machinery in there to do the job. Last year the river levels were well over 17 feet the majority of the year. Hoping the clean up will wrap up quickly and the lane opened up.

Jean from Imperial MO on 05/29/2020 10:01 AM
We had a group of 8 stay at Acorn Ridge B&B several years ago. Very nice and a great breakfast. You can check and see if there are still available

Hank on 05/29/2020 09:26 PM
I have ridden Dutzow to Washington on Hwy 47 several times now and each time I do it I like it less. It is OK and passable but it is not ideal and in my opinion borderline dangerous. I would never put teenagers or younger kids on it. Ever. I have written to MoDOT advising of the safety hazards and hope they improve this.

Lynn on 05/29/2020 08:25 PM
Does anyone know someone that could a couple from Hermann to Augusta on the morning of June 8

Trail closure
Jeff from Benton Ky on 05/29/2020 08:38 AM
Does anyone know if the trail is still closed between mile 117 and 118? Or a way to detour. Planning a trip from Rocheport to Hermann June 6. Thanks!

Town park in Green Ridge
Anonymous on 05/28/2020 08:28 PM
Is camping allowed in city park with proper social distancing?

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 05/29/2020 06:56 AM
I believe you could call Green Ridge City Hall and ask permission. I had folks tell me they called ahead last year and asked.

City Park in Pilot Grove
Derek from Spring Hill, Ks on 05/28/2020 07:37 PM
Did the city park have any spots for hammocks?

4 day thru ride from Sedalia to St. Charles
Pat from Indiana on 05/19/2020 10:13 PM
Hi. I've been playing with the daily mileage and how to break up the trip from Sedalia to St. Charles. Had it about figured out until I saw Mokane had no lodging (we don't want to camp). Looking for suggestions from those who did 4 day thru trips as to where you stayed each day and daily mileage. Need restaurants and either B&B or hotel/motel each night.

Also, looking for options when we reach St. Charles. Thought we would drive to Kirkwood (from our home), then take the Amtrak from Kirkwood to Sedalia to start our ride. Once we arrive back in St. Charles as we complete our ride, looks like the options are to cycle back to Kirkwood (looks to be about 20 miles). Does anyone know how the roads are between St. Charles and Kirkwood? Or, maybe a shuttle from St. Charles to Kirkwood Station? Would like suggestions from those who have done either.....thx!

Jim from St. Thomas on 05/20/2020 06:58 AM
Assuming Cyclers Roost in Treloar is open, you could do Sedalia to Rocheport the first day. Rocheport to Jefferson City the second day. Jefferson City to Treloar the third day and Treloar to St Charles on the fourth day.

Pat from Indiana on 05/20/2020 08:12 PM
Thanks Jim. That's exactly the daily stops I have planned so far. I'll check the Cycler's Roost suggestion as we get closer.

If we park our car in St. Charles, what is the best way, or can someone recommend a shuttle company (and approximate $) to take us and our bikes from St. Charles to the Kirkwood Amtrak station for the ride to Sedalia to begin our ride? Sounds like this would be the better option over parking at the Kirkwood station, and having to bike the extra 20+ miles to go from St. Charles to Amtrak once we complete the ride. I'm not sure how the roads are between the trail and Kirkwood? Any help or suggestions?

Ray (webmaster) on 05/21/2020 08:42 AM
Below is a link to my preferred route from the Kirkwood train station to the Katy Trail (Page Ave/hwy 360 Bridge), which I've ridden several times. It's almost entirely suburban residential, and the busier streets have nice shoulders. A few miles are in Creve Coeur Park and its connecting trail.

Note that the section along Olive Rd actually uses a path/sidewalk just to the north of the road. This is the busiest street on the route, and I would avoid the street or shoulder there in favor of the sidewalk.

The route uses Clayton Road for about 1/2 mile, which does not have wide shoulders, and Mason Road for about 1/2 mile to cross hwy 64. These are the two places to exercise more caution, with smaller shoulders, but both are short and frequented by lots of cyclists.

The outer road along hwy 64 is actually one of my favorite parts: nice wide shoulders, light traffic, and a nice downhill where you can pick up some good speed.

This route connects with the Katy Trail at the Page Bridge, which is about 3 miles south of the main St Charles trailhead. The bridge offers some excellent river views along its protected bike/pedestrian portion.

And of course there are some hills, unlike what you'll experience on the Katy Trail - you can see the elevation profile in the link below.

There are a lot of turns in the residential section between Olive Rd and Ladue Rd, so have a good map and/or notes (or the following link!). Thanks to Trevor Scott for originally planning out this route.


However you do it, have fun and good luck!

Happy trails!

Pat from Indiana on 05/27/2020 08:30 PM
Thanks Jim and Ray. FYI....Cycler's Roost now permanently closed as well as the another recommended B&B in the general area I was given (sorry, I don't have the name offhand :()

Lodging in Jefferson City on or near the Katy Trail
Pat from Indiana on 05/23/2020 07:53 PM
Looking for recommendations on lodging (not camping) in the Jefferson City area. Would love suggestions...thanks!

Anonymous on 05/24/2020 09:27 AM
Capitol Plaza Hotel is an easy ride from the south side of the bridge, is close to the capitol grounds and amenities, and is bike friendly.

Anonymous on 05/24/2020 12:14 PM
Capitol Plaza Hotel is an easy ride from the south side of the bridge, is close to the capitol grounds and amenities, and is bike friendly.

LH from Joplin on 05/24/2020 08:43 PM
Trail conditions from at Portland

Bill in Houston from Houston on 05/27/2020 03:00 PM
We stayed at the Baymont. It was nice. We got ice cream at Central Dairy, and dinner at Arris', both close by.

Pat from Indiana on 05/27/2020 07:50 PM
Thank you all for the recommendations!

Shuttle around the Rocheport detour?
Grace from Pittsburgh on 05/09/2020 04:29 PM
Anyone around Rocheport /New Franklin willing to shuttle a rider around the detour? I don’t want to ride on the 40 at all. Too dangerous. I tried the number listed on the website for the shuttle driver in Rocheport but it was not in service. Thanks!

Tom Cassell from Tucson on 05/10/2020 12:09 PM
Try Tony at the Bike Stop Cafe in St Charles. He might be traveling out that way on the day that you need transportation.

Grace from Pittsburgh on 05/11/2020 11:21 AM
Thank you!

Jim from St. Thomas on 05/11/2020 05:44 PM
What date/time do you need to be shuttled? I might be able to help.

Grace from Pittsburgh on 05/12/2020 08:03 AM
I was planning for early June but due to some things not being open and traveling unsupported I have moved my trip to the end of August. I’m a planner so I am getting ahead with arrangements. I would love the help if you are available. Thanks!

Jim from St. Thomas on 05/13/2020 03:35 PM
Post back here when you get within a few weeks of needing a shuttle. I don’t have a business but I’m retired and if I’m free I’ll run up there and shuttle you.

Grace from Pittsburgh on 05/14/2020 05:25 AM
Thank you so much! I sure will! Really appreciate it. I can pay you or give you gift cards.

Bill in Houston from Houston on 05/27/2020 03:18 PM
Some people have suggested this as a detour. I have not ridden it, but it looks good.


Shawn from Kc on 05/27/2020 05:20 PM
The end of the trail before the detour I'd in very bad condition right now.
The mud is 4-6 inches deep and the combo of gravel and mud turns anything caught on your bike into concrete. The hills and highway 40 is dangerous and should be avoided. Only a few drivers even tried to move over and give us any space at all
We ended up walking in the grass instead of Riding. MO state parks 40 highway

Biking the entire length
Jody from Nowata on 05/22/2020 08:38 AM
We are planning to bike from Clinton to Machen starting the 29th. 3 riders, & my sister will be our sag support. We’ll be camping/hotel along the way, & want to do some sightseeing also. Thinking one day in Herman? Where else should we make time for? Are most of the bike shops open? Any random advice is welcome. Not worried about food...we’re accustomed to eating out of grocery stores when needed lol. Thanks for this site!

Anonymous on 05/22/2020 12:47 PM
Maybe the trip planner is a good idea for you to try to locate things that may be of interest to you and your friends. It's kind of difficult to tell someone that you don't know what they should make time for. We've planned many trips and rely on the internet to seek out areas of interest. I wouldn't put much stock in someone that didn't know me to tell me what I needed to see whilst on vacation when I'd given them no clue of my interests.

Don Nichter from Carlisle PA on 05/26/2020 08:48 AM
I will be biking the entire trail in June starting at the northeast end. Is there a place to park my car there for 3-4 days? Is the shuttle service for a return trip currently in operation?

Don Nichter from Carlisle PA on 05/26/2020 08:59 AM
It seems that biking west to east is the preferred route?
Is there a place to leave my car in St. Charles and then take a shuttle to the starting point in Clinton. I plan to start June 9th or so and do stay in BB's and hotels and complete the trail in 3-4 days.

Bill in Houston from Houston on 05/27/2020 02:56 PM
Jody, it depends if you like history, or wine, or just pedaling your bike. Having SAG is great.

Don, we ran across shuttle services that would let you park at their place while you rode. Just make sure to ask ahead of time. As far as who's open, you'll just have to call.

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