Any of the Katy Trail closed yet? -
Joma from Oklahoma City on 08/17/2019 02:25 PM
Forgot to ask. Is most of the trail open now? Any areas still closed due to flooding?
Ray P from Chicago area on 08/17/2019 04:59 PM
We rode from St Charles to Portland in several segments and there was no flooding. We did it over four days from August 12 to 15.
Karen C. from Harrisburg, MO on 08/18/2019 08:14 AM
There is a section between Rocheport and New Franklin that is still closed. The trail bridge under the Hwy 40 bridge pushed off the frame and is off to the side & the creek is wider than it was.
The section from McBaine East to Coopers Landing is open and not bad. I rode a bit past Coopers Landing and after the third silty sand pit across the trail I turned around and went back. It was a work night so I was on a time limit.
That is all I know about that.
Average miles per day on Katy Trail -
Joma from Oklahoma City on 08/17/2019 02:16 PM
We are going to ride the Katy Trail from Sedalia to St Charles in September. My question is.... what is the average miles a person can ride per day that isn’t a real experienced rider. When I do ride, I average 10-12 mph. We are planning on averaging 40-50 per day. Is that too many? Thank you
Biker from STL on 08/17/2019 10:18 PM
Each time I ride the length of the trail I take a casual approach, which just happens to be what you suggest: 10 mph and 40-50 miles each day. At that pace, you can ride for an hour, stop for an hour, and spend only 9 hours (or less of course,as an hour break is not absolutely necessary, but possible). Even in october, that allows the potential to hit the trail at 8 a.m. and be done well before dark at 5 p.m.
Allen from Shawnee on 08/18/2019 07:12 AM
I have always found lodging was a big factor in miles per day. I always camp and it seems the campsites I like are about 35-40 miles apart. If you aren’t an experienced rider butt pain will probably be a factor after a couple of days. If you are traveling using B&B’s you can be a little more flexible because there are more of them than campsites, many are located in the same towns as campsites. If you are a pavement rider you will find miles on gravel are harder and you can do less of them. There is not much coasting on rail trails you pretty much pedal every foot of the trail.
I would err on the short side for miles per day, there is plenty to see. I approach it as a vacation rather than a training ride.
Have a good trip.
The Lonely Trail -
Ray P from Chicago area on 08/14/2019 09:17 PM
Where are all you people? We have been riding the trail for three days now and have ridden about 65 miles. We rode near St Charles on Monday, Augusta to Dutzow on Tuesday, and McKittrick to Portland today August 14. We have not run into a single rider. The only people we ran into today were workmen cutting tree branches that left big branches on the ground thus blocking trail. We had to ride on 94 for about three miles near Bluffton. No shoulder and very dangerous. Back to my original point. I thought this trail was a biking Haven
but have not seen anyone.
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 08/15/2019 08:20 AM
Ray P, it is biking heaven, but the flooding has chased away a lot of riders or at the very least postponed them. I do end-to-end rides of the Katy each year, but I hate riding on roads -- it's just not pleasant to me. So I am riding trails up north this year and giving the Katy a chance to recover. I feel bad for the business owners along the trail (I usually spend $1,500 a year on the Katy). But I will be back next year. In the meantime, I am spending even more while riding the trails up north, and those businesses need the $$ as much as anyone, so I don't feel bad about my "disloyalty" this year. I encourage everyone to contribute to the Katy clean-up fund/effort so that hopefully the trail will be bustling late this fall or next spring.
Ray P from Chicago area on 08/16/2019 11:01 PM
Just curious to know what you mean by "trails up north". Where are these trails? I am always interested in good trails to ride and if there are others I am interested.
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 08/17/2019 04:51 PM
There is an app called “TrailLink” put out by the RailsToTrails Federation that will give you all the trails you could ever want up north and a lot more. :-)
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 08/17/2019 07:42 PM
Correction: that should be the Rails-To-Trails Conservancy.
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 08/17/2019 08:03 PM
I am currently riding the Fred Meijer White Pine Trail out of Grand Rapids (93 miles), then will do the Pere Marquette (36 miles) and some others. About 240 miles in total. I enjoy doing lots of different trails, but the Katy is by far my favorite vacation.
Day ride, Hermann -
K on 08/03/2019 10:36 AM
Is everything good for a day ride at Mckittrick? Didn't see any closures.
Scooter on 08/05/2019 04:27 PM
I rode west to mile marker 109 on Saturday and there were not any closures. Not sure if you rode east.
Ray P from Chicago area on 08/17/2019 05:12 PM
We rode from McKittrick to Portland and back on Aug 14 and the McKittrick to mile 90 on 15th. Good conditions.
News about the condition of the Katy Trail. -
Sam and Janice from Southwest Oklahoma on 08/05/2019 09:39 PM
Katy Trail personnel - PLEASE POST THE CONDITION OF THE TRAIL AND THE EXACT LOCAIONS OF TRAIL CLOSURES!!! We just rode 150 fun miles on the trail, and the businesses were lamenting the lack of business and the reduced number of riders on the trail. After reading the comments in the forum, we headed for Missouri really unaware of the exact location of trail closures. The parts of the trail we rode were in great shape, and we were able to work around the trail closures; however, from comments of business owners, it is obvious many people are canceling their trips based on the lack of information. The trail is in great shape!!! Thank you!! AND....PLEASE POST THE EXACT LOCATIONS OF TRAILS CLOSURES.
Brian L. from Austin,Texas on 08/06/2019 07:29 AM
Please don’t freak out. First of all, this website is not run by “Katy Trail personnel“ but by the (amazing) volunteer webmaster with contributions from forum participants. Second, right on the homepage of this website, there is a big notice explaining how to learn about trail closures, including a link to the Official Missouri State Park website page that has the specific mile markers where temporary closures occur. There is also a “Rider-reported trail conditions on the Katy Trail“ page here that provides additional input from trail riders. Give all that a look-see, and maybe contribute your own observations, too.
Anonymous on 08/06/2019 10:48 AM
Do business owners post relevant information about the trail near them to make sure those that have booked with them have accurate information? Rhetorical question to a degree....I've seen first hand info here from Katy business owners.
Maybe people cancel because of the trip in it's entirety and not just because of a specific location.
How is it obvious to them that people are cancelling based on lack of information? Maybe people have cancelled because of information they've gotten here and on the DNR site.
Personally, I have not ridden the Katy yet this year. That decision has been based on information and not the lack of.
johnnyjewel from COLUMBIA MO, on 08/10/2019 10:28 AM
"the Official Missouri State Park website page that has the specific mile markers where temporary closures occur"
Right. Checking today, August 10, I see that the last update was June 27, 2019. Two weeks is long enough to wait for another update. I am planning to ride the trail in late September, and I would like to see more regular updates.
Anonymous on 08/10/2019 02:21 PM
And who better to make an updated trail report than some who lives so close as someone from Columbia?
Kathy M from Pittsburgh, PA on 08/12/2019 02:40 PM
Sam & Janice - if you could possibly say which towns were the start and end of your 150 miles of good riding, that would be really helpful.
Gamagrass from Columbia on 08/15/2019 07:29 PM
Ya this forum has a crowd sourced trail conditions section organized by location or MM. This is our best hope for more specific information. The State Park sites does post some relevant information but they must not have the staff or inclination or whatever to keep up on specific conditions.
Thanks to the webmaster here for fairly recently adding the trail conditions section to this forum
Ray P from Chicago area on 08/17/2019 05:07 PM
We just rode from Augusta to Portland over a three day period. We did it in day trips so there were a few sections we missed (Dutzow to Treloar were missed). No flooding and trail in good condition.
Horse lovers and riders -
Horse from Lees Summit on 08/16/2019 11:39 AM
FYI...Missouri is HUGE horse country!! We probably have more horse riders and owners than Texas or Oklahoma. Wake up Missouri. Who rides a bike far anyway? I'd much rather ride my horse a distance than bike. Nature, nostalgia.
Pedal Power from Pacific on 08/17/2019 06:19 AM
I've got no problem sharing the trail with horses. It appears to me that the places on the trail where you can count on finding water at trail heads are the sections open to horse riding. BTW, some people ride bikes pretty far. I rode 1,100 miles from D.C. to St. Louis earlier this year. Didn't come across any equestrians.
Marna from Boonville on 08/17/2019 12:50 PM
When KATY Trail was first 'the dream', it was billed as for; Horses, Bicycles, Hikers. There are areas, now, of the KATY where you are allowed on it with Equine.
The biggest concern I have with all this, and yes, we have ridden our horses on KATY (and our bicycles from end to end as well as 1000s more bike miles on KATY), is Trail Etiquette.
And of COURSE!, the other HUGE safety concern, Equine Spooking!
As far as Trail Etiquette, no one knows it any more. City People have no idea about horses. They do not have a clue how to act around them other than; "Can I Ride Your Horse?" and "Can I Pet Your Horse?" They CERTAINLY do not know that Horses/Equine, ALWAYS have the Right Away. ALWAYS.
Then. There are the JERKS, using the Trail, that will spook your horse just to keep you off 'their trail'.
Another concern. I know, like all Equine People know, that the Horse Poop is NOT like Dog Poop. However, is it right to leave it on the Trail and ride on? I don't think so.
I would NOT want to ride MY horses on the Katy in High Volume Use areas.....and I have to ask???? Are YOUR horses Bomb Proof/Parade Ready enough to handle the other Trail Users???
Windsor place to stay -
Anonymous from Indiana on 08/16/2019 01:58 PM
My family was very impressed with Katy-Rock Junction (660-525-2032), a place with camping and sleeping cabins in Windsor. It was literally right off the trail. The bathrooms and showers are new and air conditioned, and the whole place is well kept. The owner went above and beyond to make sure we were comfortable. He also let us keep our bikes in a locked shed on the property. Highly recommended!
Horse back riding -
Barb from Morrisville MO on 02/01/2012 01:40 PM
Is it allowed to ride the Katy trail on horseback?
Paulie from Knoxville on 02/01/2012 04:43 PM
Barb, Horses are only allowed between Calhoun and the Sedalia fairgrounds.
Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator on 02/02/2012 12:24 PM
In October of 2011, Missouri State Parks extended the equestrian section on the Katy Trail to Clinton, so horseback riders can now ride on the trail from the Fairgrounds in Sedalia to the trail's end in Clinton. Equestrian parking in Clinton is located at the Henry County Fairgrounds across Price Lane from the Clinton Trailhead. For more information about the trail, visit www.katytrailstatepark.com and click on "General Information."
-- Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator
Anonymous on 02/02/2012 02:26 PM
Now thats funny!
We all know to come here for the most information Dawn!
Ray (webmaster) on 02/02/2012 11:25 PM
Thanks Anon, but you know you can always go to the DNR's website if you want to get info straight from the horse's mouth.
(sorry, could not pass up that pun, given the subject of this thread)
Thanks Dawn, I always appreciate your information!
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 02/07/2012 08:39 PM
Well anonymous, I consider Katy Trail bikers lucky to have Ray to host this site and Dawn to monitor it and set things straight when misinformation is posted.
Paulie from Knoxville on 02/08/2012 02:27 PM
Gary, If you are refering to my post, I'm only relaying info.(which has now been changed) I received off FAQ page on this site.
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 02/08/2012 10:14 PM
Paulie, my comment was directed at the post of "Anonymous" which appeared to be an attempt to slam the DNR website.
Horse from Lees Summit on 08/16/2019 11:37 AM
Such BS! When will this society be friendly for everyone? I'm more afraid of dogs than I am a horse. Not everyone is a bike or dog fan. zzzzzzzzzzz. regulation regulation.
Clinton to Greens Bottom Rd in St. Charles -
Biker from STL on 08/16/2019 11:05 AM
I'd like to find anyone, preferably a small group, who are planning to ride the trail west to east including the second weekend of October.
Want to ride KT -
Jon from St. Louis on 08/05/2019 10:03 AM
Would love to know the best starting point for a great relaxing ride? We just want to have a great experience and see some sites.
Jon from St. Louis on 08/05/2019 10:28 AM
Looking for 12 mile or 24 mile round
Anonymous on 08/05/2019 03:56 PM
The Trip Planner is probably your best bet.
What makes for a relaxing ride is knowing it's not too hot, I have plenty of water, something to snack on, the bike is in great shape with no known issues, knowing that I have the ability to make trailside repairs and have the equipment with me to do so, the trail is smooth with few obstacles, other riders are friendly, the birds are singing, and so on and so on. Those are the things that add up to a great experience for me. It may be different for you??
Jerry Whittle from Belleville IL on 08/06/2019 10:27 AM
As you are from St. Louis, I recommend starting in either Augusta or Defiance and riding east. St. Charles riding west is OK but the first few miles aren't all that scenic.
Bill in Houston from Houston on 08/06/2019 11:06 AM
I think I'd drive to Defiance, and then head west. Have a little lunch out there somewhere, and head back east. Then have a lil' snack in Defiance, and head home.
Tyann (Bank Haus and Katy Haus) from Marthasville on 08/06/2019 12:53 PM
One of our favorite rides is starting in Marthasville and going west. You get to go through a tunnel, see Peers Store, cross several types of bridges, and once you hit 10 miles west, you are riding next to the Missouri River. When you get back from your ride, have pizza at Philly's Pizza.
WMDC from St Louis on 08/11/2019 06:54 PM
Yep, I agree starting at Marthasville (mm 78) and heading west is pretty, quiet and with far fewer people than the portions of the KATY closer to St Charles. At Mckittrick (mm 101) you can easily head over the bridge to Hermann or stop at the little grocery store on Hwy 19 just off of the KATY. An out and back from Marthasville to McKittrick is about 50 miles and easily doable in a one day outing.
Gamagrass from Columbia on 08/15/2019 07:36 PM
Depending on where you are, Rocheport to Cooper's Landing is all open and nice right now. That is approximately 14 miles one way. Scott Blvd. In Columbia to Rocheport is 12 one way and really nice
Condition on KATY -
KMD from Kansas City on 08/15/2019 01:28 PM
I'm Planning a ride on the KATY from Booneville to Jeff City in September. I wanted to know if there is any updated information on the conditions of the trail for that particular section.
Gamagrass from Columbia on 08/15/2019 07:18 PM
See the "trail condition by users" section of this forum
Columbia to Jefferson City -
Dave from Springfield on 08/15/2019 03:07 PM
Thinking about coming up this weekend and riding from Columbia to Jeff City. Is that possible right now? I looked on State Park website and according to it, I don't think its doable. But I don't know how often that is updated. Curious if anyone has tried it. Thanks for the info
Gamagrass from Columbia on 08/15/2019 07:14 PM
On the "conditions by trail users" section of this forum, someone posted officially closed between Cooper's and Harrisburg. Some have ridden through but rough. No information since 8/10 posted
Gamagrass from Columbia on 08/15/2019 07:16 PM