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Solo Ride
Jürgen on 11/17/2021 10:51 AM
Hallo meine freunde! Has anyone here done a solo ride from Sedalia back to St. Charles over 2.5 days? I am looking into the logistics. I am curious if anyone knows about the cell reception along the trail so that I can let family track me via GPS or if anyone has any other suggestions for a solo trip and the safety of such trips? Thank you!

Mr Bump from Columbia on 11/17/2021 11:10 AM
Cell reception is ok, except where the trail is very close to the limestone bluffs. The trail is safe. Most people overestimate the distance they can bike in a day, as the trail surface is finely crushed limestone, which is much slower than pavement, and gets worse when it rains. Expect 25km/hr on your tour bike.

John on 11/17/2021 12:01 PM
We've done several Sedalia to St. Charles rides, and 2.5 days is a good idea. Sedalia to Jefferson City is a good haul, but doable in a day. There's a bike lane on the bridge so you can get to town now, but many shuttles are also available. From there it's a nice half day ride to Hermann which is an easy ride up from the trail at McKittrick. That leaves you less than 70 miles on day 3. The other option is to start in Clinton and ride to Sedalia on the afternoon of day 1. Sedalia to Hermann is a 100 miler on day two then the last 70 or so on day 3. Cell reception is only spotty in places. Your family will be able to track you most of the time.

Doug from Bluffton on 11/17/2021 04:10 PM
Is the half day you ride going to be your first day of riding or your last day?

Michael from mountains from London on 11/18/2021 04:42 AM
Morgen Jürgen; we cycled Sedalia to St Charles in late September 2019 - the last time we were allowed out of the UK! Mobile phone signals were ok generally. We were shuttled out by Todd at Katy Shuttles (no idea if he is still in business) from Defiance just west of St Charles who also hired us bikes (not very good ones).Then we took a full six days to cycle back, stopping to smell the roses, talk to people, find our way around the wash-outs, get lost on some of the highway sections (we don't mind small bits on the road) and fix a few punctures.30 to 40 miles a day seemed enoughfor us, and it was hot, very hot. It all depends on whether you want a steady enjoyable saunter, or a wizz-bang 100 miles a day race. But as Mr Bump rightly points out, it is easy to overestimate the distance you can ride. Get lost, get a couple of punctures, and you'll end up riding in the dusk or the dark unless it's mid-summer. I can post more information about where we stayed - we go for small bed and breakfasts or cheap hotels.

Jerry from Belleville on 11/18/2021 07:50 AM
Many businesses along the trail are closed on Mondays and Tuesdays in the smaller towns. So you might want to plan your trip around that.

2.5 days is doable for a strong rider. I suggest wider tires instead of skinny road tires.

Cell reception is good but not perfect. Sometimes it depends on which cell phone company you use.

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Joey's Bird House B&B in McKittrick
ashley cox from edwardsville, IL (STL suburb) on 11/11/2021 06:31 PM
Stayed in Nov. 2021. Super reasonable price and right off the trail. Excellent for KATY TRAIL riders. Room was clean and cozy and hot breakfast was fresh and tasty. Town (McKitrrick) is a bit run down, but if you're staying here, you're either here to just relax in your room or go to Hermann anyway. I'd definitely stay again.

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Boonslick Guest House in Boonville
ashley cox from edwardsville, IL (STL suburb) on 11/10/2021 08:29 PM
ENORMOUS SPACE that is beautifully well kept for a super reasonable price. Fridge had a few beers in it ready for consumption a pon arrival, and host is super nice and answers texts/calls promptly.

Also, it is perfect for KATY TRAIL riders, particularly a large groups, for 3 reasons: (1)it is literally right off the trail, (2) it's right in downtown in Boonville so you can easily walk to everything (very good after a long ride), and (3) plenty of private spaces in the apartment. This place can easily hold 6-8 people.

There are two bedrooms with large (queen size beds i think?) at separate ends, so those people can have a completely private space, and another room has 3 beds that one bedroom squatter would have to walk through to get to common areas (kitchen, bath). Also There are two couches and a pull out bed, so really the space can probably hold 9-10 as long as the majority of folks aren't too picky about having a space that folks would need to walk through to get to other ares.

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E-bike rental?
Mary Goetz from KCMO on 11/10/2021 03:44 PM
Is there any shop along the trail to rent one of the new ebikes? Or a recumbent bike?

Avatar from St. Louis on 11/10/2021 06:05 PM
You can rent e-bikes at the Kickstand in Augusta.

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The Silos at Prairie Vale in Green Ridge
Ashley Cox from Edwardsville, Illinois on 11/09/2021 11:37 PM
Love this place! Great experience!

Stayed on 11/2/21. Host went above and beyond to come pick us up from the train station 10 miles away (Sedalia) Originally had planned to ride our bikes to the property during the day but our train was delayed by many hours and we ended up coming in at dark. Wendy (host) Came and picked us up and showed us where would we get on the trail the next day. She also makes a great breakfast, And the silos were super cute and cozy.

Also there’s a lot of animal entertainment, So if you’re an animal lover this place is for you. Goats were super friendly, as were the cats! I think they want Ed to go for a ride with us !!!!

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Most Scenic Section of Eastern Portion of Trail?
Darren from Madison, Wisconsin on 11/07/2021 09:21 PM
Looking for feedback on what you consider the most scenic part of the eastern portion of the trail (between Machens and Portland).

We are looking for the most scenic ride (about 20 miles) to do in that area.


Dave from Kirkwood on 11/09/2021 03:35 PM
There are a variety of options, depending on what you want in scenery. Here are some choices:

Portland to Bluffton - away from road and near river

McKittrick to Treloar - very nice section right next to river (and away from road) with scenic bluffs

Marthasville to Augusta/Matson - nice section, Daniel Boone grave, good bluffs near Dutzow and Klondike

Defiance to Greens Bottom - nice bluffs, away from road around Weldon Spring, river views, cool bridges

St. Charles to Machens - quiet, river views, ag area, lots of snakes in the summer (part of scenery)

Check the links on this website if food stops are important to your plans.

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Turner Hostel
Rick T from Kansas City on 11/08/2021 05:54 PM
I stayed last night and was awakened by workers around 7am. Pleased to report that there's a brand New Roof on the building today!
What a great place to stay on the trail.

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Joey's Bird House in McKittrick
Bill from San Antonio on 11/08/2021 02:11 PM
I was fortunate to have stayed at Joey’s Bird House in October 2021. If you are considering a ride on the Katy Trail, plan your trip so you can stay with Joey. Upon arrival, I was treated like a long lost relative that had finally come back home for a visit. The accommodations are very convenient and comfortable. One thing that stood out was how well everything was planned for someone traveling on a bike; like a garage for your bike, air pump to fill your tires, and snacks in your room. A ride into town for dinner was an unexpected treat that allowed for great conversation and a history of the area. The breakfast was world class and my only regret is that I didn’t accept the offer for an extra biscuit “to go”

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Rocheport Merchants Association in Rocheport
Sandy Briesacher from Columbia on 11/08/2021 12:50 PM
Will you be having the carolers competition at the wassail walk this year?

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Most Scenic Section of Eastern Portion of Trail?
Darren from Madison, Wisconsin on 11/07/2021 09:21 PM
Looking for feedback on what you consider the most scenic part of the eastern portion of the trail (between Machens and Portland).

We are looking for the most scenic ride (about 20 miles) to do in that area.


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hostal in tebbets
madununibomer from op on 10/24/2021 11:29 AM
is there someone you call to use the hostal in tebbets.thinking about staying there one night.thanks

Jim from St Thomas on 10/24/2021 11:48 AM
Most of the time you can show up and stay - the key is on the utility pole next to the shelter. The shelter is seldom completely full but it does occasionally happen so if you want to check before your stay you can use the reservation form here - https://www.conservemo.org/reservation-form.html
or call the office - 573-634-2322 ext 101

Gary from Near Tebbetts on 10/24/2021 06:03 PM
Here’s some information for you.


Cathy from Pittsburgh on 10/25/2021 12:00 AM
The Turner Shelter in Tebbetts is such a wonderful service. I do have a question. Does it close for the winter?

Thanks to the volunteers who help make it work.

Cathy from Pittsburgh on 10/25/2021 12:01 AM
The Turner Shelter in Tebbetts is such a wonderful service. I do have a question. Does it close for the winter?

Thanks to the volunteers who help make it work.

madununibomer from op on 10/25/2021 07:15 AM
i read a comment on another thread saying it wwas open year round.

MaryAnn from IL on 11/02/2021 01:47 PM
My son and I stayed there last week. It was a nice respite from the storm that night. Met some other bikers going through. Big storm that night (heard tornados touched down) and there was water pouring in various spots. Through the 2nd floor roof through onto the floor into the 1st floor and places where bikes are stored. Not much we could do but put some buckets out. You pay by honor system and put it in post office next store. It is a such a treasure to have that on the trail I hope they can continue to do repairs and keep it open! Jim next door is very friendly and I can see he checks in from time to time to be sure things are ok there. He even showed us his collection of Model T's and baked a pizza for us just to be a trail angel. Good people abound! I did lose my daughter's favorite Nalgene water bottle there. Oh boy...going to be hard to replace that with all her adventure stickers.

Jim from St Thomas on 11/02/2021 05:41 PM
Thanks for putting the buckets out. The storm blew some shingles off the roof. Got it patched on Sunday so all is good.

Bruce Laubach from Williamsburg, VA on 11/02/2021 08:10 PM
Have you taken care of the critter that lives in the walls?

Doug from Bluffton on 11/02/2021 09:06 PM
Certainly. It's well fed and gets a lot of attention.

Anonymous on 11/05/2021 06:15 PM
Are dogs allowed at the hostel in

madununibomer from op on 11/07/2021 02:48 PM
closed dec thru march.critters in the walls whats that mean.

R Bruce W LAUBACH from Williamsburg on 11/07/2021 03:19 PM
In response to Critters in the walls. When I stayed there last may I happened to be the only person there one night. At some time during the early morning hours I could hear a loud scratching noise coming from the left side of the front door. Then whatever it was either a racoon or opossum climbed up the inside of the wall and across the ceiling above my bunk. I looked around the building to investigate but could find nothing. I did not go upstairs though.

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Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin
Rose-Leo-Roger-Deidre from Kansas City on 11/03/2021 06:46 PM
Stayed at this lovely campground with our travel trailer in October. The owners were very nice. Very nice, very clean and very reasonably priced. Right on the trail. Will definitely be back.

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Steamboat Junction Campground in Bluffton
Rose-Leo-Roger-Deidre from Kansas City on 11/03/2021 06:43 PM
Stayed at this lovely campground with our travel trailer in October. The owner, Dan, was there mowing when we arrived. Very nice, very clean and very reasonably priced. Right on the trail. Will definitely be back.

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KT Caboose
MaryAnn from IL on 11/02/2021 09:42 PM
We camped on 10/22 there and then had breakfast. John made one amazing Belgium waffle packed with good stuff that fueled my son all day! There was very little open until Rorchport, so we were glad to find this treasure! This was John's first season running the Caboose and he was closing the following weekend. Hope word gets out how he serves up some tasty & healthy food and his business grows next year.

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Rock Island Spur
Rick Elliott from Anchorage on 10/30/2021 09:24 AM
Planning to ride the Rock Island Spur next spring. Is
May a good month. Figured I could watch the weather report and pick a good day. Only planning a one day ride.

Bill in Houston from Houston on 11/02/2021 02:53 PM
May is a good month.

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Katy Junction B&B in Pilot Grove MO
CurtM-FTW from Fort Worth TX on 10/28/2021 09:49 PM
This is the third time I've stayed at Katy Junction B&B over the past few years, and what a great place and great host. Got in late due to a flat at MP 206, but Jerry graciously returned to the B&B as I dragged my sorry self into Pilot Grove. Lots of great conversation, a good night's sleep and a great breakfast. Jerry provided a wonderful perspective on the area and the types of Katy Trail travelers (at least those who transit Pilot Grove), all of which enabled me to see the KT in a new and more expansive way. A real ambassador for the trail, a real treasure for cyclists and Missouri.

MaryAnn from IL on 11/02/2021 01:34 PM
My son and I were just finishing 140 miles of biking & camping the trail. We were treating ourselves a night at a B & B as the storms were plentiful! Katy Junction was just the place! Jerry was SO friendly and accommodating! My son had mentioned he liked chocolate milk, and at breakfast Jerry provided chocolate milk just for Jimmy! He as a wealth of information for local things to do, history and fun stories. His place was homey and we felt very comfortable. I would definitely recommend Katy Junction to others! We hope to return! He offers more such all you need to do is ask. Enjoy the ride!

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Drivers license found
Matthew K from Macon, Mo on 11/01/2021 08:47 AM
Susan Roth from Olathe Kansas. My kids found your Kansas drivers license on the trail this weekend between Rocheport and Columbia turn off. I’ve mailed it back to the address on your license.

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Salt Creek detour - crossing
Scott W from Lees Summit on 10/21/2021 01:19 PM
I am curious what, if any, activity has begun on tearing out the old bridge and beginning the new construction and what impact that is having, or will have, on the ability to use to low water crossing. I could easily see that construction might put the crossing out of commission, to keep people out of the way of heavy machinery.

R Bruce W LAUBACH from Williamsburg on 10/22/2021 08:59 AM
I just saw a posting by MoDOT that there is a free bridge available in Livingston Co MO. I say send it to Salt Creek. Check out the site. www.modot.org/free-bridges

JT from TERRE HAUTE on 10/27/2021 08:32 PM
Rode through the short detour on 10/23/21. Worried that work on the removal of the old bridge would impact the ability to use the low water detour, but as far as I could tell everything was exactly the same as when I came through in the middle of July. The old bridge didn't look like it had been touched.

Gigantor from Colorado Springs from Colorado Springs on 10/31/2021 12:02 PM
My lifelong buddy from Florida and I rode from Boonville east on a beautiful, cool, low humidity day October 21. We rode too far on the gravel road past the low water crossing and I flatted, so we decided to bite the bullet and take the narrow highway detour. Fortunately we saw the low water crossing as we crossed on the highway bridge and turned around. We are glad we did because we had a great time riding east that day, including some fall colors and the tunnel.

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What is the best route to go from Saint Charles back to Kirkwood where our cars might be? Is it pret
Karen Iseminger from Karen Iseminger on 10/29/2021 04:24 PM
Interested in people that have written from Saint Charles to Kirkwood and if it was doable. Thank you so much!

Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/29/2021 08:16 PM
It depends on what kind of city riding you enjoy. I personally like to take multiple routes combining trail segments, sidewalk segments, subdivision cut-throughs, etc...but some people don't enjoy those types of routes and would rather have the straightest route even it involves a two lane road with no shoulders. That is fine for urban road biking, but not a fun way to wrap up a Katy Trail adventure. There is also a good option that allows you to take a bus route to the Kirkwood train station. All St. Louis Metro buses have bike racks on the front. If you let me know what kind of route you prefer, then I would be happy to share a mapped route with you. Unfortunately the routes are not that easy because several areas of western St. Louis County love their gated communities and cul-de-sacs so you have to avoid those residential dead ends and the busy streets at the same time.

madununibomer from op on 10/30/2021 05:38 AM
last october i rode kirkwood to the trail useing google maps got off the trin at 4 in the afternoon from kc [on a sunday]so there was some traffic somewhat hilly wasnt that bad so its doable.

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Kim's Cabins in Windsor MO
CurtM-FTW from Fort Worth TX on 10/28/2021 09:38 PM
Would like to add another positive comment about Kim's Cabins in Windsor. Stayed there Sunday, 10/24/21; exceptional facilities. After getting caught in the squall that hit Leeton, it was the perfect place to stop. Will definitely make this a must stop on future trips.

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 10/29/2021 07:47 AM
Thanks so much - appreciate you staying!

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Rock Island Trail Closure - Medford - Chilhowee
CurtM-FTW from Fort Worth TX on 10/28/2021 12:49 PM
There is a trail closure on the Rock Island Spur between Medford and Chilhowee, west of Highway P intersection. Can't be more specific, since I didn't know until I got there (10/24/21). Didn't find any notices on the MO State Parks site, and am not from the area, so it was kind of a surprise. It looked like a culvert washout. Heavy equipment on trail. No detour posted and couldn't quite pinpoint the location. Riders from Medford to Chilhowee (or reverse) should be aware. Thanks.

madununibomer from op on 10/28/2021 02:59 PM
how many miles past medford did you just turn around and go back is it possible walk thru thanks for the heads up.probily could find a deture by riding on highway 2 was ooking onn google maps didnt see a p intersection.

CurtM-FTW from Fort Worth TX on 10/28/2021 09:29 PM
I was incorrect about the location of the closure. It's EAST of the Medford TH, closer to Medford than Chilhowee. If I had to hazard a guess, it would be the crossing with SW 971 Road. It was a surprise and I should have noted the location better. But with the rain and all that, wanted to keep going. I did see what must have been HW 2 curving south, so that would be my guess. I drove HW 2 a couple of times a few years ago; it would be poor choice for cycling. I did walk the bike through; it was Sunday. Pretty loose fill and you have to maneuver around the heavy equipment. You'll have to empty your shoes.

madununibomer from op on 10/29/2021 05:20 AM
thanks for looking out.

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Best Western Plus in Washington
Joel on 10/28/2021 06:35 PM
Actual mileage from the trail is 6 miles from the dutzow trailhead. The shoulders are wide enough to bike.

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Globe Hotel Bed & Breakfast in Hartsburg
JT from TERRE HAUTE on 10/28/2021 06:26 PM
My wife and I stayed the night at the Globe Hotel on 10/23/21. Spent a couple of hours in Hartsburg at the new Burg Deli and the Hitching Post and then retired to the Hotel. The weather forecast wasn't good for the next day so we decided to leave early before breakfast the next morning to get to our next stop before bad weather hit. Leaia (I hope the spelling is close) fixed us a bag breakfast and a bag lunch that we were still finishing two days later. Great stop!

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New riders
Carlee from Orlando, FL on 10/28/2021 07:26 AM
I am planning a full day ride on the Katy Trail in about a week to see what it’s all about!
Right now, I am thinking for a 1 day trip to start in St. Charles and go to Augusta and then turn around.
I am wondering if anyone has any advice or comments about this plan? I would love some input on what to expect, best places to stop for wineries/food and also if the distance seems doable for a full day.
Any advice would be awesome! Thanks so much!

Bill in Houston from Houston on 10/28/2021 08:27 AM
The stretch from Weldon Springs to Defiance is probably the least interesting section of trail. If you have a way to drive west some and start in Defiance or Augusta, I'd recommend that.

JT from TERRE HAUTE on 10/28/2021 06:12 PM
Depends what you're hoping for: from St. Charles to Defiance there's not much to do, but once you get to Defiance and on to Augusta there's several options for breweries and wineries and bar and grill type places (depending on the day of the week, I'd definitely check to see what's open on what days of the week). Just finished a ride from Clinton to Machens on 10/26 and had a great lunch at Terry and Kathy's in Defiance on 10/26. In the long run I'd say; make your plans and then ride!

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The Ride
Rick Elliott from Anchorage on 10/28/2021 11:13 AM
Rode the trail from Clinton to St. Charles Sept 27-Oct 2. Great ride but was very hot and humid. Especially for me being from Alaska.

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riding the the entire trail in november
madununibomer from op on 10/27/2021 08:51 AM
Last year rode the trail in mid october every thing went as planed restrooms were open water was easy to find,camped every night awsome ride.Question is what should i expect in november will the restrooms be closed,should i bring extra water bottles and a water filter.the plan is to camp 5 of 6 nights unless it is raining heavely.taking the train back from stl to kc.thanks theres got to be some hard core riders that ride the trail in all seasons.also packing a lot my own food did that last year not easy to find food monday tru wens.

Marna from On The Trail on 10/27/2021 09:08 AM
Bathrooms will be locked, or have been in the past. However, some will or might, have Johnnys next to them. YES! Carry extra water and a way to keep it warm, so that it is not ice when you need it. You will find Gas Stations, of course, for hot beverages and a lot of 'Regulars' who use the trail all year. Snow? Maybe. When it does, we get out our FATTYs and or Skis or Snowshoes, we use the trail ALL year. We grab Umbrellas when it rains.

madununibomer from Opks on 10/27/2021 03:26 PM
Thanks i have rain gear not sure how effective it is getting cold and wet not good in cool weather thanks

Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/27/2021 05:44 PM
The Turner Katy Shelter/Hostel in Tebbetts usually stays open until after Thanksgiving, then they winterize it until the following spring. That is a great place to stay inside for a night not having to set up the tent. Beyond that, you want to map out city parks and major campgrounds that tend to stay open in November versus the trailheads.

madununibomer from op on 10/27/2021 08:13 PM
thanks mark tebbits is planed stop.think ive got everything mapped out hopefully the weather wont prevent me from getting my miles in.

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Boonslick Guest House in Boonville
JT from TERRE HAUTE on 10/27/2021 08:06 PM
Stayed here on 10/22/21. Back porch for the bikes, easy walk to several restaurants, washer and dryer, kitchen, TV, and close to a neighborhood with neat historic homes. Nice place!

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