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Jefferson City Lodging
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Deby from Dallas on 09/02/2022 08:34 AM
I can't seem to find anything other than chain hotels in the capital. Are there no B&B's or Inns?

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 09/02/2022 11:25 AM
Bunches.
https://www.airbnb.com/s/Jefferson-City--MO/homes?adults=2&place_id=ChIJ8Qo7Tqtd24cRrdmovEvJ57I

 
Deby from Dallas on 09/03/2022 11:06 AM
Thanks so much Bill in Houston. This was very helpful. We have our lodging set! A heads up to those using airbandb many do require 2 night minimum.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 09/06/2022 05:34 PM
Have fun! Good note on 2-night stays...

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upcoming trip advice
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Julie from Boulder, CO on 09/03/2022 02:28 PM
Plan on riding Katy trail Mid Oct.
How far in advance to book and advice on shuttles and bike rentals>
would like to shuttle to Sedalia and rent a bike in west county St Louis.
How far in advance to book lodging?
Or do you recommend winging it and finding lodging when you hit a town?
Any good lodging recommendations for Pilot Grove? Sedalia? Rocheport? Jefferson city? Hermann? Washington?
is it hard or easy to find water?
What daily distance do you recommend? At home on road bike 30-40 is easy but will be renting a bike.

Thank you for any and all advice!!

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 09/04/2022 07:21 AM
You might want to investigate the Big BAM on the Katy ride. It's in mid-October and checks off a lot of your needs.

https://www.bigbamride.com/bam-on-the-katy

 
Hank on 09/05/2022 08:50 AM
I would strongly recommend making your lodging reservations before you hit the trail. Water can be hit and miss but if you can carry two liters you should be fine. If 30-40 miles on a road bike is easy then 50 (or more) on the Katy should not be a problem.
I agree you should check into the Big BAM ride, could be just what you're looking for.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 09/06/2022 04:01 PM
Just my opinions:

Book all of your lodging in advance. You never know when all of the rooms in a town might book up. And then the next lodging might be a looooong way away.

Pilot Grove - Pretty sure there's only one place.
Sedalia - Bothwell
Rocheport - Lots of choices. We liked the Katy Bed and Bikefest.
Jefferson city - Baymont (make sure to go to Central Dairy for ice cream.

Water can be iffy. Carry plenty.

You'll have to do a minimum amount of mileage to get from one lodging to another, so that helps nail down some aspects of your itinerary.

40 miles on the road bike is about like 30 miles on the trail. The gravel surface is nice, but you have to constantly pedal, or you will come to a stop.

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Hotel Bothwell in Sedalia
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Doug from Ftg ok on 09/06/2022 12:09 AM
Awesome luxurious king room 89 dollars if your riding the Katy breakfast inculcated laundry on site really don’t think you can stay at a better place for that price if you need a hotel. I will be back

 
Deby from Dallas on 09/06/2022 06:35 AM
We certainly agree. When we ride the KATY the Bothwell is a must. You can easily see their dedication to keeping the historical perspective, yet updated quality. They are people and bike friendly, breakfast is good and plentiful. Bathrooms may be small, but who cares? It is really a step back in time.

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Hotel Bothwell in Sedalia
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Doug from Ftg ok on 09/05/2022 11:52 PM
Awesome luxurious king room 89 dollars if your riding the Katy breakfast inculcated laundry on site really don’t think you can stay at a better place for that price if you need a hotel. I will be back

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KT Caboose in Marthasville
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Jordan from St Louis on 09/05/2022 08:42 PM
We stopped here and wanted to camp but since rain was in the forecast (it ended up raining all night) and we only had hammocks so we had to go somewhere else. But he provided us a hot shower and some ice cream for a really good price. Highly recommend this location.

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Trail conditions
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Jerry from Evansville indiana on 09/01/2022 02:58 PM
Riding trail next week from Jefferson City west . Trail conditions and detours ? Thanks

 
BillB from COLUMBIA on 09/05/2022 08:02 PM
Riding St. Charles - Rocheport 9/7 - 9/10 Anybody out there have a trail conditions update? Thanks

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Hartsburgh lodging
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Jerry from Evansville indiana on 09/05/2022 03:46 PM
So looking on site there appears no lodging at this time. Correct? Thanks for any info

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 09/05/2022 07:22 PM
We ended up getting an AirBnB in Hartsburg. There were a few available in early July, so try that. I certainly miss the Globe Hotel, but I realize that life gets in the way for these operators, and they have a tough time with the seasonal nature of the Katy.

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Hermann Oktoberfest
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GearHead from Houston on 09/02/2022 06:08 AM
I’m planning on riding KT trail Sep 29-Oct 2 from Rocheport to St Charles. I plan to stop through Hermann on Saturday Oct 1. Does anyone know if Hermann is having Oktoberfest this year? I can’t find any websites that confirm the event is on for 2022 or show a schedule.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 09/02/2022 11:28 AM
https://www.funtober.com/fest/hermann-oktoberfest/

 
GearHead from Houston on 09/02/2022 12:54 PM
Thanks Bill..
I find it strange that the actual website maintained by the town doesn’t mention any Oktoberfest plans despite showing other planned events for the rest of the year. In previous years, they posted a detailed list of events, contests, bands etc during Oktoberfest but I couldn’t find that either. This makes me think it’s been cancelled. I hope not, as I was looking forward to the festival when I pass through on the KT trail in early October.

https://visithermann.com/festivals-events/?utm_source=Madden&utm_medium=GoogleCPC&utm_campaign=Festivals&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7L2ZxdT2-QIVn21vBB3QcgdGEAAYASAAEgJMdvD_BwE

 
Hank on 09/03/2022 08:48 AM
When it's October in Hermann, it's Octoberfest. No worries. The town will be full of drunk partying revelers all month.

 
GearHead from Houston on 09/04/2022 07:15 AM
“Prost!”. I’ll bring my training wheels so I’ll be able to ride out to the next town. Thanks for the confirmation!

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Jeff City camping optiona
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Doug from Ftg ok on 09/03/2022 02:36 PM
What are some of my options for camping in or around Jeff City, either pay or Stealth camping. If I pay I want electricity? And a tent site or hammock site?

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Boonville
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Groves Cooke from Pacific on 09/01/2022 06:50 PM
Recently stayed at the Grand Victorian Manor in Boonville, While there we biked to downtown Columbia and back, and also to Pilot Grove and back. The detour at Salt Creek is easy. The trail has a lot of cracks and fissures due to the hot dry weather, but they are marked with orange paint. The Grand Victorian Manor is only one block off the trail on High Street. Accommodations are first class. Linda and Ken are great hosts and the breakfasts were fantastic.

https://boonvilleluxurylodging.com/grand-victorian-manor/

Also a visit to Warm Springs Ranch to see the Clydesdales is a must.

https://www.warmspringsranch.com/


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KT Caboose in Marthasville
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Andy L from Herndon, VA on 09/01/2022 06:48 PM
Our group stopped there for lunch today. It was wonderful. Best lunch we had on trail. Sandwiches made to order. John even picked the basil from his garden as he made our sandwiches. The caprese wrap was great. Everyone loved their sandwiches. John also filled our water bottles.

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KT Caboose in Marthasville
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Dennis Langlois from Clarksville Tennessee on 08/31/2022 07:46 PM
I camped there heading east and stopped in for a smoothie heading west. John is a super host and makes great smoothies. Very convenient, being Located right on the trail. I highly recommend here If you are looking for a place camp for the night. (Hot showers are included!) or just stop in on you way through for a healthy meal. It’s a great place!

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Overnight Parking in Boonville
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Devin from Durango Co on 08/30/2022 09:19 AM
hey there friends. I am planning a ride from boonville to st charles. Is there a place to park in Boonville over night... for a few days?

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 08/30/2022 04:59 PM
I'd try to arrange that with whatever place you are staying in at Boonville at the beginning/end of your trip. Most places are used to stuff like that.

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McKittrick Farmers Mercantile in McKittrick
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John Murray from Columbia on 08/30/2022 11:05 AM
Menu and hours?

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Could we get an updated factsheet on progress, current one is 3 years old
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Kelly Toler from El Paso, Arlansas on 08/29/2022 12:12 AM
I am doing an end to end to end on the Katy starting next week and was curious when the Katy/RI loop would be completed. I pulled up the Missouri Rock Island Fact sheet and it hasn't been updated since 2019. Has any progress been made? Is there an estimated completion date? Any news at all?

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 08/29/2022 08:46 PM
Nothing much has changed since 2019. Jackson County has a section that goes from KC Royals/Chiefs stadiums to Lee's Summit (about 13 miles) with a nice lighted tunnel. Then there is a gap (the Greenwood Gap) of about 6 miles that is still needing to be completed. From Pleasant Hill to Windsor, nothing has changed except that the trail is getting more packed down (which is nice).

As far as the rest of the Rock Island, the only change since 2019 is that the State of Missouri (Dept Natural Resources) now owns it. Last year, the draft state budget had appropriations to start developing the trail, but it got nixed at the last minute. Hopefully it can get back into the next budget cycle. Even if they only did 20 miles at a time, it would be a big deal to get the momentum going.

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Volunteer Park in Hartsburg
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Ryan from Kansas City on 08/24/2022 09:44 PM
Debating stopping here a night or two on my out and back. Does anyone know if they allow small woodfire stoves at this park? Thanks in advance

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 08/29/2022 04:02 PM
I'm not sure. If not there, then maybe down at the park that's a little bit south, at the corner of S Bush Landing Road and River Road. I can't tell if they have grills or not, but it looks like they might.

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Volunteer Park, Hartsburg
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Karin from Cody on 08/28/2022 10:02 PM
Is it okay to park a pop-up camper at Volunteer Park in Hartsburg? We’re the size of a pick-up, not large. Where would be a good place to charge the battery on my husband’s bike? It takes about 3 hours. Thanks in advance.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 08/29/2022 11:34 AM
I found a photo that says Tent Camping Only. I'll put the links in the next post. The forum is picky about links.

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 08/29/2022 11:34 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6948548,-92.3100092,3a,41.1y,91.47h,90.3t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMHJ4W-Tz80h3Tj7sIVif2Gaddmc0MsYsBE9ZNK!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMHJ4W-Tz80h3Tj7sIVif2Gaddmc0MsYsBE9ZNK%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya148.18263-ro0-fo100!7i4608!8i2304?hl=en

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Wind direction
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Lance on 08/26/2022 12:49 PM
I understand the prevailing winds are west to east, but for the past several weeks and looking ahead up through labor day, the wind has been east to west. Is this common this time of year? I was planning on riding from KC to STL starting Sept 7. But now I am starting to wonder if I should do the opposite direction? Thoughts from those who are Missouri residents?

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 08/27/2022 07:58 AM
Two years ago, my wife and I did the Katy in mid-September. The winds were out of the east that week, which I found unusual. I've done the Katy 8 times in June and the winds were almost always from the west. I only remember a few days when the wind made a significant difference.

If you like to start riding shortly after sunrise, there is one big advantage to heading west: the Sun won't be in your eyes.

My wife and I will be leaving St. Charles on September 10th. If you start from KC, you just might see us on a silver tandem.

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 08/28/2022 05:53 PM
The question of wind comes up every so often, so I will copy-paste some of what was discussed in the past here. The only thing predictable about the wind is its randomness. The textbooks talk about the "prevailing Westerlies", but those are trade winds. Here in the Midwest, our winds come from every direction, but the most common is out of the South (and bringing up lots of Gulf moisture). Just today alone, the wind shifted from East to Southeast to South and now to West. So you really can't count on a consistent direction. And when the South wind hits the river bluffs that run East-to-West along the Katy (Rocheport and eastward), it splits it. So you can have it in your face and a half mile later, it is at your back. If you are interested in wind directions for your area, look up "wind rose", which is a graph that shows the predominant winds for select cities. Here is one for Jefferson City, about mid-point of the trail (scroll down to the bottom). https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/climatemodelled/jefferson-city_united-states-of-america_4392388 As you can see, by far the prominent direction is from the South, followed by the Southeast. Another interesting fact is that the resistance caused by wind is a cube of the speed. So if you are riding into a 5 mph headwind and later it becomes a 10 mph headwind, then you are facing not twice, but 8 times the resistance as you would expect (take the factor and cube it, in this case, 2^3=8). Certainly starting off your day into a strong wind will make for a tiring day. The best way to plan/prepare is to assume that the wind will be your enemy for part of the trip. Also note that the winds in Missouri are much calmer from about June 1 to September 1, as the jet stream moves farther North during the summer.

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