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Riding from Katy/Rock Island trail to Flint Hills trail
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Scott from Texas on 10/06/2020 01:21 PM
I am interested in trying find a way to ride from Katy/Rock Island trail to Flint Hills trail in Kansas. Are there safe back-roads to attempt to make this connection? Appreciate any feedback.

 
Anonymous on 10/15/2020 12:43 PM
On mobikefed.org 10/13 How to connect from MO's Katy/Rock Island Trail to KS's Flint Hills Nature Trail using trails & low-stress routes.



Lindenhof Bed & Breakfast in Augusta
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CP from Saint Peters on 10/14/2020 11:16 AM
We had a lovely stay at the Lindenhof B&B. Kathy is a great host. The breakfast was delicious. The house is beautiful, the beds comfortable and there is a cozy patio with a hot tub. Great place to stay and I'm sure we will be back.


Trail closed thru 10/15 - Weldon Spring area MM 48-56
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Ray (webmaster) on 10/14/2020 08:21 AM
The Katy Trail will be closed daily from 7 am to 4 pm between MM 48.1 at Pittman Hill Rd to MM 56 at the Weldon Spring Trailhead starting Tuesday, Oct. 13 through Thursday, Oct. 15 due to surfacing work. Please avoid this area due to dump trucks and other heavy equipment!


Special places for stops on the KATY
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Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/30/2020 11:09 AM
Riding all week on the KATY, Oct.5-10. What places/activities are worth the stop? I will avoid large crowds at the Octoberfest.


C Bar J Horse Facilities in Windsor
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John Little from Auburn, Alabama on 09/29/2020 08:17 AM
Just FYI. Have left a number of messages via phone and email to CBarJ over the past month, with one being returned.

 
brad wilson from st louis on 09/30/2020 10:09 AM
And what did they say in the one returned message?

 
John Little from Auburn, Alabama on 10/13/2020 06:30 AM
Sorry, that was an autocorrect typo. No messages were ever returned.

 
John Little from Auburn, Alabama on 10/13/2020 11:34 AM
Sorry, that was an autocorrect typo. No messages were ever returned.


Bluffton Barn in Bluffton
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Erik from Oklahoma City on 10/07/2020 09:48 AM
I stayed at the Bluffton Barn on 10.3.2020. Doug was a kind and generous host. The place is eclectic and homey. Enjoyed lively talk around the campfire with Spot and Freckles (Doug's sweet dogs). Though I did not eat any meals there, the other guests had great things to say! I stayed in the upper barn loft. Lots of room, comfortable and quiet. This place is great for travelers who are a little more adventurous and enjoy a rustic old world charm. Thanks again to Doug for being incredibly welcoming and accommodating!

 
Rich from Fairview, TX on 10/12/2020 05:34 PM
I stayed at the Bluffton Barn the night of 10/9/2020. I found Doug to be one of the most personable gentlemen I’ve met. I felt he and I could be friends. He is a cyclist and enjoys hearing of your experiences and sharing his. The dinner he prepared for his guests that night was delicious and there was plenty, and the blueberry pancakes and bacon the next morning kept me going the next day.
I think it was Erik who mentioned Doug’s dogs, Spot and Freckles, they are both sweethearts, and gave me my dog fix for the day.
If/when I ride the Trail again, I will plan my itinerary to include Bluffton Barn in Bluffton.
Enjoy your autumn ride.


Best out and back segment
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jon graham from Aurora on 10/12/2020 12:45 PM
I'd like to ride a single day out and back century on the Katy Trail. What might be the best segment to ride? thanks

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/12/2020 01:49 PM
The west end of the trail (west of Boonville) is rolling hills while the east end is pretty flat following along the Missouri River. Most people would start at Rocheport because it has excellent access off of I-70 and features the most scenic stretches of bluffs on one side and the Missouri River on the other as you ride east (or as you ride back west after your turnaround point). If you are wanting to complete an out and back century, then this is the perfect stretch where you miss all of the current detours off of the trail (even if the detours are pretty short) and the trailheads with water are well spaced out.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 10/12/2020 04:09 PM
I agree with Mark.


Cows on trail?
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Kathy from Kirkwood on 10/12/2020 01:58 PM
I rode the section from Clinton to Sedalia this weekend and, seeing all the cows grazing near the trail, if anyone has ever seen a cow or other livestock on the trail? Just curious.


Clinton Mower & Saw Shop in Clinton
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Kathy from Kirkwood on 10/12/2020 10:02 AM
This, like just about everything else in town, appears to be closed on the weekends.

 
Anonymous on 10/12/2020 01:35 PM
I'd sure like to know why you needed a lawnmower fixed on a saturday bike ride.

 
Kathy from Kirkwood on 10/12/2020 01:56 PM
Other posts on this forum indicate that this shop also sells and services bikes and accessories.


Is Clinton to Sedalia open?
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Tim from Columbia, MO on 10/12/2020 11:34 AM
Planned on starting 10/17 from Clinton to St. Charles or Machens, but noticed a Sedalia detour/closure in the forum?

Is that still the case?

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/12/2020 01:40 PM
In Sedalia, they converted a portion of the trail back into an active railroad siding, so there is an on road detour for about 4 miles. They are currently building several new trail segments to replace the on road detour, but they are not finished yet so you need to still be prepared for the on road detour. From what I have heard recently, a few people have tried the new trail route that is under construction and found it difficult to ride through the gravel base that they have started to lay down (the fine rock doesn't get placed until the end) There are two other major detours that are easy if you plan them ahead of time, between Boonville and Rocheport (a bridge washout requires you to cross an often dry creek bed) and another one a few miles west of Portland, MO (a huge rock slide requires a 1.5 mile on road detour).


Windsor Crossroads Motel in Windsor
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Kathy from Kirkwood on 10/12/2020 09:46 AM
Echoing what everyone else said: Clean, friendly, convenient, comfortable. I stayed Saturday night and the sign said "no vacancy" so consider making reservations.


White Wolf Inn in Rhineland (a quiet few miles from Hermann)
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Cindy Drew from Edwardsville,IL on 10/12/2020 09:06 AM
White Wolf Inn is our preferred place to stay.

Thank you Mark & Jill for our last two stays since August 2020.
We enjoy the country setting - peaceful mornings & star gazing evenings.
The bike up to Starkenburg to see the church is a beautiful ride along the country road. (Experienced bikers only - hills & lite traffic, no designated trail.)

No hustle & bustle of Hermann, yet close enough to venture in for dining or music. A nice economical stay as well. Always clean & well kept. Enjoyable patio common area w/ stocked fire pit, table & chairs. Plan time to enjoy the outdoor setting, mornings or evenings. Have your coffee & watch the cows graze by.


McBaine to Easley
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Frank from St. Louis on 10/10/2020 06:47 AM
It's the trail open McBaine to Easley? Google Maps keeps routing is off the trail for that stretch.

 
DANA from Billings on 10/11/2020 10:22 AM
We were just there about 10 days ago. Yes, there are lot of detours, for this trail.
At least 3.
I think Portland, (This one was the hardest, there was a sign that said, something about it being hazardous to your health because of some kind of work they were doing on the trail. lots of dump trucks going super fast, on this part of the trail.
we decided to take our chances because we don't know the area and not the slightest clue as to a detour. We met lots of locals on this part and they gave us some directions to detour- only listen to locals- and get a few different people- each had a different story, but we pieced it together about best route.)
Rocheport (bridge out, just after going East to west). Sorry, I didn't make not of mile markers.

Rocheport : East to west- bridge out after town- you can go down to the left of trail down by creek- there is a concrete slab that they must of put down, but you have to go up large embankment. trail goes under bridge and up. There is one other way to go, we didn't understand the directions, though. we followed some locals.

and Sedalia; Nothing at trailheads warning you about detours. One of them is quite extensive; Luckily the BAM riders were there one day prior to us , so they had pink arrows and spray paint on the ground pointing you in right direction. We also spoke to several other cycclists heading from the direction of detour. Talk to locals if you can..this trail is heavily trafficked by them. Use your resources!! Sedailia detour (going east to west- just before Sedalia) YOu will be riding on highway for a good bit. Nothing heavily traficked and the state park, has signs on the hwy and signs pointing you around.
We didn't call state park, and we should have prior.
Good luck.

 
Jen from St. Louis on 10/11/2020 09:02 PM
There is no detour McBaine to Easley. Google maps showed me the same detour you are referring to, but I biked that section of the trail yesterday and was never rerouted


Hotel Frederick in Boonville
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DANA from Billings on 10/10/2020 12:47 PM
Dana, Billings MT, 10/1/2020
This hotel is right off KATY trail. So far, its the only hotel that lists correct place off trail.. Others are not accurate, misleading.
The room was great and very spacious. enough room for our bikes. we had king size bed with jacuzzi hot tob in our room. hot water. love this!! just what I needed after a day on the trail.
restaurant was closed in evening and for breakfast. we had to have dinner in bar and grill. food was good.
very historic, old hotel.
we had breakfast at diner across street, which was great!! can't remember the name.
They also offered us a place for our bikes if we wanted. we usually keep them with us. I would recommend this place!!

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 10/11/2020 03:21 PM
I love staying at the "Fred". Too bad that the restaurant was closed as the food has been great the 3 times I've eaten there. I've eaten at that diner once and it was very good for the price. Of course almost everything tastes good after a day of riding on the Katy Trail.


Vinchester Inn in Hermann
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DANA from Billings on 10/10/2020 12:23 PM
Dana, Billings MT, 9/29/2020
Stayed here from KATY trail.
I feel like all of these places recommended to stay for trail usere are miscalculated. The McKittrick trailhead is 2 miles from Herman, not all hotels.
Also, there are some massive hills to climb to get anywhere in MO. Please be aware..not a big deal, unless you are carrying extra gear, which we were..
Our stay here was good. It was weird though.. we didn't actually see any of the hotel keepers. When we got there, there was an envelope with my name on it and directions inside to our room. It was very clean, basic room. comfy bed, water was only luke warm...this is important - hot bath after a day on the trail is much needed... very disappointing... 2 Qn beds. It reminded me of a place I stayed in Germany. There was a small fan on night table to turn on for some are or white noise- it was perfect. How did they know??!
Everything was great, except for the hot water situation. I am not sure I Would stay here again for this reason. We all have our quirks..


Swan Haven Inn in Augusta
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DANA from Billings on 10/10/2020 12:10 PM
Dana Leeds, Billing MT, 9/28/2020
Stayed here while riding the KATY trail. It is not .3 miles off trail head more like almost two miles, and up some very big hills. But...thats Missouri!
Gene was great enough to drive us to one of the wineries for dinner- We were there on a monday, all restaurants and wineries closed by 5 pm. Also, no dine in due to COVID. We got our dinner to go, and enjoyed it on the Gene and Jacquie's back deck, which was lovely. We also enjoyed a nice fire pit that evening in back yard. They also have hot tub. We didn't use because we didnt have suits. They also offered us some wine. We aren't big drinkers, as we were there to ride the trail.
The room with private bath was lovely. Comfy bed and hot water. A hot bath was just what I needed after a long day on trail.
Breakfast was amazing as well. Served on some lovely china.
One thing that I might suggest, was asking about food allergies or senisitivities before making meals for guests. I don't have any allergies, but I do have sensitivities. I wasn't expecting such a great meal or I might have mentioned it. Everything was amazing. I am a big tea drinker, and Jacquie is from London- so the selection was quite impressive. Even Herbal tea. I can't have caffeine, and most places I have stayed, don't offer herbal, caffeine free tea.
I had a great stay and would recommend it highly.


Katy Bike Rental in Defiance
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DANA from Billings on 10/10/2020 11:53 AM
My friend and I did this trail about two weeks ago 9/27-10/3 2020
My friend was having some issues with her bike. We stopped in Defiance, to have the bike shop take a look at it. The young man (maybe high school) was not helpful at all- he didn't know anything about fixing bikes, he said their mechanic is only there 3 days a week, maybe. and even if he was there, we would have to leave the bike and they might get to it in a few days.
The only thing they could do was rent us a bike. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with one of those bikes...
I have been to this bike shop while riding parts of the trail a few years ago. my bf and I rented bikes.


Amtrak station STL from Machens
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Orange84 from Bloomington, IL on 10/09/2020 02:19 PM
we will be driving down to STL and looking to take Amtrak to Sedalia, then the $20/p shuttle to Clinton. Riding the trail back to Machens. Any suggestions on how to get back to our car assuming at the train station? Thanks. We checked shuttles from same and it was $170/p to Clinton. Any suggestions appreciated.

 
ArkyKenny on 10/09/2020 08:04 PM
Just go Sedalia to St. Charles. Instead of going to Clinton, take side trips into Columbia (by the spur), Jeff City (so you can see the crazy bike path up to the bridge), and to Hermann (so you can eat and drink at the wursthaus). Not missing anything at Machens.

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/09/2020 10:22 PM
There are only 4 bike tickets sold per train and October is a very popular month for biking the Katy Trail due to the leaves and Oktoberfest, so I would first verify that you can get Amtrak bike tickets from the Kirkwood Station to the Sedalia Station. If you can get bike tickets, then there are some companies that will shuttle you from either Machens or St. Charles to the Kirkwood Amtrak Station. If you are comfortable riding in some onstreet traffic, then there are routes available from the Katy Trail to the Kirkwood Amtrak Station. You might even consider long term parking in St. Charles and riding or shuttling to the Kirkwood Amtrak station early in your trip, then your car is near the Katy Trail in St. Charles at the end of your trip. That all depends on the Amtrak bike tickets being available, otherwise you are paying for the shuttle. Sometimes you can make a post and recruit more people to ride the shuttle with you and split up the total cost.


e Globe B & B
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Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/28/2020 04:09 PM
Any news on the reopening of the Globe B & B in Hartsburg?
thanks

 
Curt from Dallas on 09/29/2020 05:31 AM
Was in Hartsburg on 09/28, unfortunately the Globe Hotel was closed.

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 09/29/2020 11:07 AM
The Globe Hotel in Hartsburg will be closed until May, 2021, according to a post they made here last week.

 
Pookie DeCocq from Nixa, MO on 10/09/2020 11:35 AM
So glad to hear The Globe is reopening in 2021!! This place is a gem!!


Update on Trail closure at Salt Creek (W. of Rocheport) and roughly MM 118 (west of Portland
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D. Rick from Columbia Mo on 10/08/2020 10:44 AM
The bridge over Salt Creek (3 miles west of Rocheport) remains closed and no repairs to replace the bridge that washed out is imminent. Mo State Parks have money in the 2021 budget for the design of the replacement bridge and are hoping to get the estimated $500K for construction in the 2022 budget. Current feeling is that it will at best be approx. 2 years before a replacement bridge is in place. The State Parks Dept. have repeatedly ask the MODOT to put signs up on US Highway 40 alerting motorists to the presence of bicyclists on the detour around the closed section of trail, but MODOT HAS CONSISTENTLY REFUSED TO DO SO. So much for trying to keep riders safe!!!!!!

The second closure around MM 118 was the result of a landslide from private property onto the trail right of way. The trail is completely blocked and there remains the threat that additional rock falls from private land may occur. Removal of the current large amount of rock that fell is anticipated to trigger an additional landslide from the private property onto the trail. The private owner is pushing for the state to buy the land affected, which is holding up the ability of the State to get the trail open. The above information was obtained through a discussion with a representative of the Mo State Parks who was familiar with the situations. The landslide can be seen on the latest Google Earth aerial imagery.

Personal Viewpoint: The property owner should either be required to remove the current landslide and any additional landslides from his property on the trail ROW that may occur at his own expense or given an option that the State can do the initial removal and any subsequent removals and charge the owner. A final option would be for the private property owner to not try to extort money from the state and the owner could do the right thing. There is no timeframe that I am aware of for resolution of this issue, so riders will still need to use Highway 94 as a detour.

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 10/09/2020 10:53 AM
My advice: if it has not been raining, you can try the Salt Creek crossing.

But please, DO NOT make the same mistake I did -- the rock slide near Portland is impassible. I got unclear advice from another rider and attempted to go through. Disassembled my gear to get it over the fence, then had to port in pieces to get around the rock slide. I wasted probably 45 minutes and if I had sprained my ankle on the rocks, I would have been in trouble (also, little cell signal there). Just suck it up and take the suggested detour of 1 mile on Hwy 94.


Oct 6 - Trail was closed just east of I-64
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T Milligan on 10/06/2020 08:37 PM
Trail was closed today - Oct 4 - just east of I-64. No passage eastbound or westbound due to crews downing and clearing large trees. Might also apply tomorrow (and beyond?)

No obvious way around.

 
T Milligan on 10/07/2020 07:23 AM
I was eastbound, closure was between mile marker 50 and 49, closer to 50.

Backtracked and left the Katy trail at the Busch Greenway trail for pickup at the Busch Greenway trailhead.

 
Pat from Greencastle, IN on 10/08/2020 08:10 PM
Hello,
Concerning the closure mentioned in this post....we will start riding the Sedalia to St Charles route over 4 days starting this Saturday. This means we will hit this MM50(ish) of the trail about 10 miles before we finish our ride in St. Charles on Tuesday. Any further updates on whether this section is still closed or being worked on? Doesn't appear there is a way around per the rider that wrote this update. Just wondering if anyone has ridden it in the last few days and what the latest status is?

Also, will be negotiating the Salt Creek bridge out section our first day of riding on Saturday this weekend. Assume we can just go around the closure (is this a gate across the trail?), and see if the creek is passable and dry? Thanks for any updates!!

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/08/2020 10:50 PM
The Department of Natural Resources staff usually only have to completely block the Katy Trail during tree trimming operations when they are cutting down really big, leaning trees that could crush someone biking past. There is no way to know for sure, but there have been very few posts in the past week about major tree clearing closures so you should be alright.
As far as the Salt Creek bridge washout, it has been dry in the area for over a week and the weather forecast is good, so you probably won't even get wet crossing the concrete low water crossing on Saturday. If you want to see this area beforehand, just go to Google Maps and type in Davisdale, Missouri for the destination. Change to satellite mode and you will see the narrow footbridge that you take from the eastbound direction of the Katy Trail to the Davisdale parking lot, across Hwy. 40, and along the Conservation Road to the concrete low water crossing (it is shown in light gray on the satellite Google Map).

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 10/09/2020 10:48 AM
Salt Creek was passable, and should be if there is no rain over the weekend.

As far as the tree trimming, I just waited 10 minutes yesterday (as did other riders coming the other way) until they allowed us to pass. It's dangerous work, so please be respectful. Where they have already trimmed (Weldon Springs eastward), the trail is very rough because the skid steer has churned up the gravel. Expect to have to go slower for those few miles.

 
BikerBoy from Maryville, IL on 10/09/2020 10:48 AM
Salt Creek was passable, and should be if there is no rain over the weekend.

As far as the tree trimming, I just waited 10 minutes yesterday (as did other riders coming the other way) until they allowed us to pass. It's dangerous work, so please be respectful. Where they have already trimmed (Weldon Springs eastward), the trail is very rough because the skid steer has churned up the gravel. Expect to have to go slower for those few miles.


School House B&B in Rocheport
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Erik from Oklahoma City on 10/07/2020 09:41 AM
I can't say enough good things about the School House B&B in Rocheport. Convenient and restful for Katy Trail riders! I stayed solo in the south dorm and it was the perfect size with every needed amenity. Shower/bathroom was great. To go breakfast items were great for getting right back on the trail. Bike shed is secure and has a compressor and bike tools to help with any needed adjustments. Hosts were amazing and pointed me right to the places that were open after hours. 100% would recommend!


Soft trail just east of Portland
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T Milligan on 10/06/2020 07:43 AM
I rode from North Jefferson to McKittrick yesterday - Oct 5. There was some trail construction going on just east of Portland.

Most of it was inactive and of no consequence except for one short section featuring a road grader and a compactor. That section was exceptionally soft requiring me to walk my bike for about 100 yards.


Walking the trail
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Karol from Kirkwood, MO on 10/05/2020 08:10 AM
Some friends and I are thinking of hiking the trail, breaking it up in chunks, and staying in BnBs along the way. We’re bad-ass but we don’t camp...HA! I’m interested in your thoughts and any suggestions. We live in the St Louis area and would probably start at either St Charles or Weldon Spring. Thanks!


Detour - Rocheport to Boonville
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Kaper from Cape Girardeau, MO on 10/01/2020 07:59 AM
My wife and I will be finishing the trail this weekend (Oct 4, 2020) and I wanted to ask if there were any updates on the trail detour about 3 miles west of Rocheport. We will be riding east to west.
We had read in the KT Forum there was a good possibility of navigating the nearby levee to cross (weather permitting) without using the Hwy 40 detour.
Any specific directions would be appreciated.

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 10/01/2020 12:42 PM
The Fans of the Katy Trail Facebook group has lots of maps and pictures from people who have just this week used the levee and paved concrete channel to cross Salt Creek because the water is low right now. If you are not a Facebook user, then go to Google Maps, type in Davisdale, MO for the city and it will take you right to the area. Switch the map to satellite view and you will see a light gray outline that details where you leave the Katy Trail and how the path along the levee turns and crosses the Salt Creek paved low water crossing. Walk back up the levee on the other side, continue a short distance along the Conservation Road, cross 40 Highway to the Davisdale gravel parking lot, and then take the narrow walkway bridge back over Salt Creek and continue west on the Katy Trail. I will warn you that the current Google Map satellite view shows the wooden Katy Trail bridge still in place over Salt Creek, but trust me, it is washed out and in pieces nearby.

 
Kaper from Cape Girardeau, MO on 10/01/2020 02:38 PM
Thanks, Mark. That is great to know!

 
Teri McCormick from Vernon on 10/03/2020 06:32 AM
we rode the levee yesterday and cycled across the dry crossing. It is raining today so that could affect crossings in the short term. I think rainfall total is expected to be .10 inch of rain. Worse case scenario- you turn around and take the road.

 
T Milligan on 10/05/2020 07:20 AM
I rode through the Salt Creek crossing yesterday (Oct 4) and didn't even get my tires wet.


Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin
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MePlusBike from Palm Harbor,FL on 09/30/2020 10:40 PM
Sept. 2020. I didn't camp here but I did take a look on my tour. Its definitely on my list. For $10 its a large secluded site with showers.

 
brentridesbikes from Little Rock, AR on 10/02/2020 03:10 PM
I stayed here on 9/28. $10 for a site and a shower was a good deal. The first door from the right of the house was open, with instructions for self-registration on the wall: Fill out the form, add the cash, and drop it in the slot with the provided envelope. The plus about reserving online is that they'll send you the code for the shower house door lock. We simply asked another camper for it. There's an electrical outlet on the outside of the shower house, as well as an outlet on the light pole by the water spigot if you need to charge anything. Fire wood was offered for sale ($10) on the registration form, but I didn't see where it was kept, or if it was self-service at all. There was no one at the house, but this was a Monday afternoon. There's also a Casey's in town for supplies, which adds to this being a great spot to overnight.


Diana Bend Conservation Area in Rocheport
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MePlusBike from Palm Harbor,FL on 09/30/2020 10:37 PM
Camped here 9-22-20 after actually finding it.
MM 181.5

South of the trail starting from the (currently downed) bridge that goes under State Road 40 and 7km west of the Rocheport "tunnel" theres a white gravel road. - Mo Conservation Rd - That will take you to a white gravel parking area.


The camping area is technically to the west of the parking area. No clear sites or evidence of sites. That night there were more mosquitoes in that area. I was more comfortable on the mowed grassy area directly next to the parking area.

The site closes at 10pm until 4am so there should be no vehicles overnight. I wasn't disturbed and it was very quiet overnight.

Make sure you have enough water. From the west New Franklin will be the last opportunity. From the East, Rocheport.

 
maduniboomer from op on 10/01/2020 05:53 AM
thanks for your post very helpful,riding the trail in a week.


Lodging Suggestions
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Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/30/2020 10:50 AM
Riding for the week. Double back each day and move with our car. Can anyone suggest a unique lodging near N. Jefferson for next week? Thanks

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 09/30/2020 11:07 PM
Nothing at North Jefferson, but you have a couple of really unique options just east and west of there. The Katyrest Caboose is an old rail car/caboose room right in the middle of Hartsburg and the Turner Shelter in Tebbetts is a bunkbed hostel if you want to hang out with a bunch of random cyclists for the night. If you have your car with you, though, they might all team up and want you to make a food run for everyone there...


Ride from Sedalia
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Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/30/2020 11:06 AM
Overnight in Sedalia then a day biking and then drive east for lodging in Augusta and to pick up the katy. for a day ride which way is best out of Sedalia: east toward Pilot Grove or west toward Windsor? If must choose either a ride on the KATY OR take the Rock Island for a short day trip, which is b best?

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 09/30/2020 11:01 PM
Go west...for one, there is a short on road detour when you leave Sedalia going east. Second, since you are doing an out and back, chances are you will have a nice tailwind on your ride back to Sedalia if you start westbound in the morning. Third, either Windsor or Leeton (on the Rock Island Spur) will be good turn around options both with nice places available for lunch.
Going east would only be worth it if you wanted 75 hilly miles where you could make it to Boonville and back, but by the end of that day I would not want to drive to Augusta.


City Park in Pilot Grove
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MePlusBike from Palm Harbor,FL on 09/30/2020 10:54 PM
Camped here 9/23/20.
I called the local police station as a courtesy. There was no problem and he was quite helpful.
1 660 834 4300

The site has two large pavilions should the weather be rough but the grass is well maintained and comfy.
The bathrooms were perfectly fine. The power for the bathroom lights is in the Women's though a well placed high powered flashlight will work - the walls are white.
Theres no facility to hang clothing or a bag of toiletries.

The shelters have power (2 standard outlets). The power for those is in the shelter. Lift the lever. All power is controlled by the master box on the light pole though I didn't need to touch that.

A note of the power pole. Its a street light and it will be on overnight. So unless you want a night light choose your spot carefully.

There is a swimming pool at the park and no doubt has showers. As there was a pandemic I cannot speak for the use or access to the pool.

Locally theres a Dollar General for supplies and a couple cafes.


Rocheport Detour-another question
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DaveC_KC on 09/28/2020 11:07 AM
We are heading from Boonville thru Rocheport on 10/4 to Jeff City.
I am not sure about crossing the creek bed at Salt Creek as others have done. The state webpage says detour to Hwy 40 at County Road 467, but that is pretty far west.
Can we access Hwy 40 thru the Davisdale Conservation area to reduce time on Hwy 40?

 
Triker from Monroe City on 09/29/2020 08:37 AM
Yes you can access Hwy 40 thru Davisdale parking area..
Heading west to east you will come to a barricade.. Turn right and cross little walkway bridge thru the parking area.. Then turn left onto hwy 40.. But if i was you i would cross hwy 40 and go left on gravel road until you reach levee.. Go up levee and cross creek.. You will see trail on left once you cross the creek.. If it hasnt rained for few days you prolly wont even get your feet wet.. We didnt

 
Michael from Coppell on 09/30/2020 09:07 PM
What about the Portland area trail damage..... can you walk your bike around this hazard?

 
Mark from Lee's Summit on 09/30/2020 09:30 PM
If you look on the satellite view of Google Maps about 1.5 miles west of Portland, you can clearly see the rock slide that blocks the Katy Trail. You can also see the very easy 1-3/4 mile detour that uses Schmid Way and a short section of lightly traveled Route 94. You would be around the detour and riding the Katy Trail again in less time than climbing past the first 10 trees between the rock slide and Logan Creek.


Special places for stops on the KATY
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Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/30/2020 11:09 AM
Riding all week on the KATY, Oct.5-10. What places/activities are worth the stop? I will avoid large crowds at the Octoberfest.


Rocheport Tunnel
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DaveC_KC on 09/28/2020 11:26 AM
Is the tunnel open in Rocheport?

 
Anonymous from Rocheport on 09/28/2020 11:37 AM
Yes. The tunnel is open.

 
Russ Williams from Colorado on 09/28/2020 04:01 PM
Is the bridge wash-out west of Rocheport?

 
DaveC_KC on 09/28/2020 04:55 PM
Yes, the bridge is out over the creek west of Rocheport. I'm gonna see what that looks like on October 4th. Don't know about crossing at that location, but some folks have.

 
Curt from Dallas on 09/29/2020 05:28 AM
Just crossed at the washed out bridge at Salt Creek on 09/26. It was a little muddy and slippery going down one levee and up the other back to the trail, but it certainly beats getting on the highway detour. Just be prepared to carry your bike down and up a muddy levee if it’s rained recently.


Shuttle or Train from Sedalia to St. Charles?
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Vonniesue from Indiana on 09/28/2020 06:46 PM
I'm riding St. Charles to Sedalia in a couple weeks. Planned to stay a couple nights in St. Charles because I've never been there, and planned to leave my car in St. Charles. What is the best way to get back from Sedalia? Private Shuttle back to St. Charles, or Amtrak to Kirkwood?

If I take the train to Kirkwood, would you suggest riding my bike back to St Charles, go hire a cab or shuttle back? Looks like only 12 miles, but are the roads biker-friendly?

If Shuttle back from Sedalia....recommendation for shuttle service?

 
k on 09/28/2020 07:22 PM
There are plenty of cyclist-friendly streets between Kirkwood's Amtrak station and St. Charles, but that route will be more like 20-22 miles, not 12. Google maps bicycling view is a good start.

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