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lessons.learned, forecasts
 -  + Following a four-day Lee's Summit to Washington, briefly, planning ideas to share, in no order: Use all resources, not only Airbnb. KT, east of Hermann has more trail-side lodging. When at spe...
Discussion started 06/14/24 11:57:25 AM by Acoustic Al - 0 replies
Acoustic Al from Fort Collins on 06/14/24 11:57:25 AM
Following a four-day Lee's Summit to Washington, briefly, planning ideas to share, in no order:

Use all resources, not only Airbnb. KT, east of Hermann has more trail-side lodging.

When at speed, watch for turtles and small garter snakes.

Take care to not overestimate daily ride plan.

Get ready to be surprised to give and get positive energy and experiences from others:)

Consider carrying a small sack to pick up trash as you go, every trailhead has a trash can, where you can empty that sack.

Text-only weather forecast discussion links, Updated several times daily. Aviation and meteorologist focused, but plain text to understand the trends. For the three offices in Missouri:

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=EAX&issuedby=EAX&product=AFD&format=txt&version=1&glossary=0

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=SGF&issuedby=SGF&product=AFD&format=txt&version=1&glossary=0

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=LSX&issuedby=LSX&product=AFD&format=txt&version=1&glossary=0

Enjoy- you already know you have a great resource to treasure with the KT\RIT in Missouri, cheers! Acoustic Al


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Pleasant Hill City Lake in Pleasant Hill
 -  + It will have to do as this is the only option. Stayed here a few nights ago. The location is amazing and the host, Jay and his dog Sofie are super nice. Each site has a picnic table and power. But...
Discussion started 06/13/24 9:29:35 PM by TheTrooper1158 - 0 replies
TheTrooper1158 from Denver on 06/13/24 9:29:35 PM
It will have to do as this is the only option. Stayed here a few nights ago. The location is amazing and the host, Jay and his dog Sofie are super nice. Each site has a picnic table and power. But the tent sites aren't flat. So you end up at the bottom of the tent by morning. There are no showers and it's a potra-pottie. Be warned that tent site 6 has the best views of the lake but to our surprise it also has a bright street light above it. WARNING... as of 6/10/24 there was no potable water. The water onsite is a hearty walk from the sites and is under a boil order. Plan accordingly.


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City Park in Pilot Grove
 -  + Oh...forgot. BYO TP for the bathrooms.
Discussion started 06/13/24 2:11:43 PM by TheTrooper1158 - 0 replies
TheTrooper1158 from Denver on 06/13/24 2:11:43 PM
Oh...forgot. BYO TP for the bathrooms.


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City Park in Pilot Grove
 -  + The city pool is in fact open. They're open from noon from memorial day through labor day. The bathrooms at the park aren't the best. Certainly not as nice as most of thr ones at trailheads on the ...
Discussion started 06/13/24 2:10:10 PM by TheTrooper1158 - 0 replies
TheTrooper1158 from Denver on 06/13/24 2:10:10 PM
The city pool is in fact open. They're open from noon from memorial day through labor day. The bathrooms at the park aren't the best. Certainly not as nice as most of thr ones at trailheads on the route. There is a Casey's several blocks away though. Call the local police to let them know you are spending the night. You'll find the number in the forum. Lots of room with plenty of shade.


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Kindness of strangers
 -  + On the very off-hand chance that he may read this forum, I wanted to tell ‘Tyler from Massachussetts’ thank you very much for stopping to help ‘Shawn from Wisconsin’!! You helped me repair my flat ti...
Discussion started 06/12/24 3:04:39 PM by Shawn Fall - 0 replies
Shawn Fall from Milwaukee, WI on 06/12/24 3:04:39 PM
On the very off-hand chance that he may read this forum, I wanted to tell ‘Tyler from Massachussetts’ thank you very much for stopping to help ‘Shawn from Wisconsin’!! You helped me repair my flat tire, offered some great tips, and gave me a real emotional boost as well. Glad to know folks like you are out there offering help and friendship to strangers in need. Restores my faith in goodness!


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connectivity at Chilhowee?
 -  + Would anyone know if T-Mobile 5G is solid in Chilhowee or WiFi at the Corner Café? Happy trails everyone!
Discussion started 06/09/24 12:22:20 PM by Acoustic Al - 3 replies (last reply by Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins at 06/11/24 10:36:11 AM)
Acoustic Al from Fort Collins on 06/09/24 12:22:20 PM
Would anyone know if T-Mobile 5G is solid in Chilhowee or WiFi at the Corner Café? Happy trails everyone!

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 06/10/24 4:46:50 PM
Not sure what you're referring to as Corner Cafe. Only thing in Chilhowee is Hometown Convenience Store. Probably just call them and ask about Verizon

 
Acoustic Al from Fort Collins on 06/10/24 9:32:54 PM
Kim, Hi again, and thank you! WiFi at Home Town Convenience, and so much more. Today, Dusty made us be at home with handmade fresh sandwiches and sides, and a wide choice of ice.cold.beverages - shop local!

The interwebs have also useful sites such as www.t-mobile.com/coverage/coverage-map
coverage was good in Chilhowee, cheers, Acoustic Al

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 06/11/24 10:36:11 AM
Great to have you all stay! Good for all to know on Chilhowee thanks


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Cycle Inn in Hermann
 -  + We stayed at the Cycle Inn in Hermann - myself and my husband and our two children - it was so perfect and the hospitality was amazing. The place had comfortable beds, beautiful showers and great wash...
Discussion started 06/10/24 10:56:47 AM by Kristina - 1 reply (last reply by Rich Lauer at 06/11/24 9:47:12 AM)
Kristina on 06/10/24 10:56:47 AM
We stayed at the Cycle Inn in Hermann - myself and my husband and our two children - it was so perfect and the hospitality was amazing. The place had comfortable beds, beautiful showers and great washers and dryers. The staff really went above and beyond to help us. The place was newly renovated and close to town so we had everything we needed.

Definitely a great place to stay when you’re cycling the Katy Trail!

 
Rich Lauer from Hermann, Missouri on 06/11/24 9:47:08 AM
The new Cycle Inn Hermann Missouri is offering a discounted price on there queen and double room; we seeking new business for a new business. Hope you will stop by and at least look and see what your options are for Hermann Missouri thank you.
I still offer the $100 solo traveler discount and all the other rooms are 125 except the king room at 160. This is a June only offer; please take advantage of it.

Thanks for looking.
Rich Lauer.



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Katy Bike Rental and Shuttle in St Charles
 -  + For the second year in a row, we used Katy bike rental and shuttle. Both years, the experience was great. They pick up right behind Country Inn and Suites in St. Charles, right off the trail and dro...
Discussion started 06/10/24 6:03:47 PM by Channabilly - 0 replies
Channabilly from Channahon, IL on 06/10/24 6:03:47 PM
For the second year in a row, we used Katy bike rental and shuttle. Both years, the experience was great. They pick up right behind Country Inn and Suites in St. Charles, right off the trail and drop you at your choice of destination. Bikes are carried behind in an enclosed trailer. Very good experience


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Best Western Inn in Sedalia
 -  + I think things have changed a bit since the posts in 2014 and 2011. There are few amenities here now. No fitness room, no washer and dryer. The breakfast buffet was basic, but filling. The outside...
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Channabilly from Channahon, IL on 06/10/24 3:41:03 PM
I think things have changed a bit since the posts in 2014 and 2011. There are few amenities here now. No fitness room, no washer and dryer. The breakfast buffet was basic, but filling. The outside ground floor rooms are small and have a serious housefly issue. But, the room was clean and didn't have strange odors. The bed was firm. Food choices nearby are limited, but varied.

All in all, not a bad place to stay, but expectations should be curbed.


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Tree Actoss Trail Mile Markers 212-213
 -  + Between mile markers 212 and 213, there is a tree down across the trail. Someone cut part of the branches away and you can lift your bike over the remaining branch. It IS passable.
Discussion started 06/10/24 12:12:25 PM by Channabilly - 0 replies
Channabilly from Channahon, IL on 06/10/24 12:12:25 PM
Between mile markers 212 and 213, there is a tree down across the trail. Someone cut part of the branches away and you can lift your bike over the remaining branch. It IS passable.


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Maxine's Rooms for Rent in Sedalia
 -  + Had a great stay at Maxine’s. I would highly recommend. Very clean and convenient to the trail. Great people will definitely rent again! And loved Maggie Mae!
Discussion started 06/10/24 7:17:44 AM by Kathy and diane - 0 replies
Kathy and diane from Stl on 06/10/24 7:17:44 AM
Had a great stay at Maxine’s. I would highly recommend. Very clean and convenient to the trail. Great people will definitely rent again! And loved Maggie Mae!


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Maxine's Rooms for Rent in Sedalia
 -  + Had a great stay at Maxine’s. I would highly recommend. Very clean and convenient to the trail. Great people will definitely rent again! And loved Maggie Mae!
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Kathy and diane from Stl on 06/09/24 5:11:28 PM
Had a great stay at Maxine’s. I would highly recommend. Very clean and convenient to the trail. Great people will definitely rent again! And loved Maggie Mae!


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Be Aware!
 -  + If you must go into a nearby town, please be aware of vehicle traffic as you ride on the shoulders of major highways. A rider this week had to jump over a guard rail on Rte. 19 as he was crossing a br...
Discussion started 06/07/24 10:10:32 AM by GWW - 4 replies (last reply by CurtM at 06/09/24 12:52:07 AM)
GWW from Washington on 06/07/24 10:10:32 AM
If you must go into a nearby town, please be aware of vehicle traffic as you ride on the shoulders of major highways. A rider this week had to jump over a guard rail on Rte. 19 as he was crossing a bridge between Hermann and the nearest Katy Trail trail head. A vehicle swerved to sideswipe him. He landed hard with multipole injuries. He was rescued app.13 hours later and is recovering. The driver has not been found but is considered a hit and run suspect. On top of all this, someone stopped on the bridge and stole his bike! Be watchful and be safe!

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 06/08/24 12:27:08 AM
Not sure I understand this one. The Hermann bridge has a protected bike lane totally separated from the bridge lanes. Am sure it happened but the details are rather fuzzy. BTW, I've ridden Rte 94 and 47 into Washington from Dutzow; would recommend that over the Augusta Bottom Road. As always, it pays to be careful. Good riding.

 
Bill R. from Wentzville on 06/08/24 8:46:38 AM
If he had to "...to jump over a guard rail on Rte. 19 as he was crossing a bridge between Hermann and the nearest Katy Trail trail head.", that would have to have been that long span where 19 goes over the Loutre River. As was said, 19 has a protected bike lane where it goes over the Missouri River. Riding the highways anywhere is always dangerous. Tractor trailer wash is very dangerous. I won't do it. For me it's a risk/reward thing. To each his/her own, however.

 
GWW from Washington on 06/08/24 10:11:31 AM
The following account was broadcast on our local TV station.

"According to the sheriff, a bicyclist was riding north on Highway 19, on the southbound shoulder, near Hermann on Wednesday around 8 p.m While crossing the Loutre River Bridge, a gray SUV veered onto the shoulder towards the victim. The man jumped off of his bicycle and over the concrete barrier of the bridge, resulting in a 22-foot fall. The gray SUV reportedly drove off.

After 13 hours, two bystanders walking in the area heard the man’s calls for help. First responders arrived to help the bicyclist around 9:12 a.m. on Thursday. The man was taken to the hospital with serious injuries as a result of the fall."

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 06/09/24 12:52:07 AM
Last comment on this one from me: Riding in vehicle traffic is always dangerous, but riding facing traffic is suicidal. Best wishes for a quick recovery.


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Clinton Community Center in Clinton
 -  + Are there bathrooms available after hours? We plan to camp here on a Sunday when the community center is closed. Thank you
Discussion started 06/06/24 8:02:32 AM by Rbud21 - 1 reply (last reply by Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins at 06/07/24 2:23:06 PM)
Rbud21 from San Diego on 06/06/24 8:02:32 AM
Are there bathrooms available after hours? We plan to camp here on a Sunday when the community center is closed.
Thank you

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 06/07/24 2:23:06 PM
If no one else replies here I'd just call the Community Center and ask


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Katy Trail Tours and Shuttle in Clinton
 -  + We are so pleased we found Greg. He shuttled our car from Clinton to St. Charles. He and his wife, Lori, are so very nice and friendly. They did a great job with our car and we felt totally comfortabl...
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Kathy from Austin on 06/05/24 1:45:41 PM
We are so pleased we found Greg. He shuttled our car from Clinton to St. Charles. He and his wife, Lori, are so very nice and friendly. They did a great job with our car and we felt totally comfortable leaving our key with them. The cost was very reasonable as well. We would highly recommend him to anyone.


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Joey's Bird House B&B in McKittrick
 -  + Joey's Birdhouse is right off the McKittrick Trailhead. Joey is very informative and her place is so relaxing. The breakfast was delicious and just what we needed before we started our ride. Would def...
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anonymous from Austin on 06/05/24 1:41:33 PM
Joey's Birdhouse is right off the McKittrick Trailhead. Joey is very informative and her place is so relaxing. The breakfast was delicious and just what we needed before we started our ride. Would definitely recommend staying here.


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Lindenhof Bed & Breakfast in Augusta
 -  + The Lindenhof B&B was a wonderful place to stay. Kathy provided wonderful cookies and brownie bites when we got there. Everything was very comfortable and relaxing. The breakfast was amazing and just ...
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anonymous from Austin on 06/05/24 1:38:56 PM
The Lindenhof B&B was a wonderful place to stay. Kathy provided wonderful cookies and brownie bites when we got there. Everything was very comfortable and relaxing. The breakfast was amazing and just what we needed for our last day of riding. Highly recommend staying here.


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Kim's Cabins in Windsor
 -  + Rode the RIT-Katy Spur from Pleasant Hill to Windsor and stayed in a cabin at Kim's, then proceeded onto the Katy Trail. Great place to stay! Kim was nice. Interesting to talk with her, because she h...
Discussion started 06/01/24 4:57:24 PM by JD Courage - 4 replies (last reply by Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins at 06/04/24 9:29:19 AM)
JD Courage from Kansas City, MO on 06/01/24 4:57:24 PM
Rode the RIT-Katy Spur from Pleasant Hill to Windsor and stayed in a cabin at Kim's, then proceeded onto the Katy Trail. Great place to stay!
Kim was nice. Interesting to talk with her, because she has a lot of knowledge about Windsor and the recent history of the Katy and the RIT and efforts to extent the RIT.

 
Clinton from Clinton on 06/02/24 7:36:44 PM
Kim and her cabins are as good as it gets.

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 06/03/24 6:54:46 AM
Appreciate that and thanks for staying!

 
Jerry Whittle from O'Fallon Illinois on 06/03/24 1:56:47 PM
My wife and I spent three nights in a cabin. It was great!

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 06/04/24 9:29:19 AM
Thank you Clinton and Jerry! Love my cyclists passing thru and staying,and love that many stay multiple nights to ride the three directions or just for getaways!


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tree on trail west of Rhineland 6/1/2024
 -  + Reported Saturday morning 6/1/2024: Trees down across path, 8 miles west of Rhineland. We were able to clear a path to carry our bikes through but didn’t have enough muscle or tools to do much mor...
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Ray (webmaster) on 06/01/24 11:00:32 AM
Reported Saturday morning 6/1/2024:

Trees down across path, 8 miles west of Rhineland. We were able to clear a path to carry our bikes through but didn’t have enough muscle or tools to do much more!

 
Bill R. from Wentzville on 06/01/24 12:55:22 PM
Carried my bike through a blowdown once. Not sure which was worse: ticks; chiggers; or poison ivy.


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Pleasant Hill Trailhead in Pleasant Hill
 -  + Does anyone have the directions from the Pleasant Hill trailhead to the Summit trailhead? I’ve been searching and can’t find it and I’m leaving tomorrow. Thank you in advance if anyone has the directi...
Discussion started 05/30/24 10:34:56 AM by Holly B - 2 replies (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 05/30/24 8:18:09 PM)
Holly B from STL on 05/30/24 10:34:56 AM
Does anyone have the directions from the Pleasant Hill trailhead to the Summit trailhead? I’ve been searching and can’t find it and I’m leaving tomorrow. Thank you in advance if anyone has the directions.

 
Bruce Laubach from Williamsburg, Virginia on 05/30/24 1:09:25 PM
19917 S. Purvis Rd, Pleasant Hill

 
Ray (webmaster) on 05/30/24 8:18:09 PM
I don't have written step-by-step directions. But this map includes Google's suggested route for bikes between Pleasant Hill and Lees Summit: https://bikekatytrail.com/katy-trail-map.aspx?interval=1&cid=306&mmtyp=dist&userLocCenter=0&distance=10&rtid=1&siteTypes=|
You may find it easier to just use Google Maps on your phone, in bike routing mode.


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Happy Trails Katy-ring Service in Tebbetts
 -  + We are planning to do Katy trail this June 8th staring in Clinton going to Saint Charles . We were wondering prices and what trailheads you deliver too? Thank you for info:)
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Maria mcmanus from Saint Louis, mo on 05/27/24 7:32:09 PM
We are planning to do Katy trail this June 8th staring in Clinton going to Saint Charles . We were wondering prices and what trailheads you deliver too? Thank you for info:)

 
Ray (webmaster) on 05/28/24 10:29:15 AM
There's a good chance that they will not see your question here - your best bet is to call them directly at 913-636-8645.

Good luck with your ride - have fun out there!


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Katy Trail Tours and Shuttle in Clinton
 -  + Greg was a treasure to find. Per my specifications, he created an itinerary for me covering about two weeks - starting in Pleasant Hill to St Charles then back to Clinton. As requested, he made all...
Discussion started 05/27/24 11:32:54 AM by KT Roundtrip WtoEtoW - 1 reply (last reply by Cathy from Churchill at 05/27/24 10:27:03 PM)
KT Roundtrip WtoEtoW from Hilo on 05/27/24 11:32:54 AM
Greg was a treasure to find.
Per my specifications, he created an itinerary for me covering about two weeks - starting in Pleasant Hill to St Charles then back to Clinton. As requested, he made all of the lodging arrangements based on the distances I wanted to cover per day and outfitted me with a perfectly sized Marin gravel bike along with two pairs of panniers (frnt/bck) with a rack pack. Self contained.
He is to communicate with - accessible and interested in sorting out any details as well as concerns.
The warmth and friendliness along the KT was outstanding!
The tour was perfect!!!

 
Cathy from Churchill from Churchill, PA on 05/27/24 10:27:03 PM
This sounds great. How many were in your group?


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Country Inn & Suites On Historic Main Street in St Charles
 -  + Second time staying when setting off to ride to Columbia on the Katy. Highly recommend! Bikes can go in the room. Trail is very close by. Restaurants and places to wander. I wanted to get a beer just ...
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Susan Adele Edwards from Pepperell Ma on 05/26/24 6:43:02 PM
Second time staying when setting off to ride to Columbia on the Katy. Highly recommend! Bikes can go in the room. Trail is very close by. Restaurants and places to wander. I wanted to get a beer just as a storm was setting in (hail the size of golf balls, I kid you not), and called a Lyft. No problem! Also, I did take an Uber XL to get here with my bike and panniers. Also, easy to get food delivered here if you don't feel like going out. Rooms are wonderful!!


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Dormitory at School House B + B in Rocheport
 -  + This was a last minute stay and we were very happy that they were able to accommodate us. Nice place, nice town.
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Jacki from Maryland on 05/25/24 2:59:25 PM
This was a last minute stay and we were very happy that they were able to accommodate us. Nice place, nice town.


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Hazel's House in Marthasville
 -  + Towels and linens are included in in the rental.
Discussion started 05/23/24 5:03:16 PM by Danielle - 1 reply (last reply by Triker at 05/24/24 10:45:58 AM)
Danielle from Marthasville on 05/23/24 5:03:16 PM
Towels and linens are included in in the rental.

 
Triker from Monroe City, Mo on 05/24/24 10:45:58 AM
This doesn't mean you can steal them..


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Parking
 -  + Taking shuttle to Clinton Parking suggestions for 5 days in st Charles
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Taking shuttle to Clinton Parking suggestions for 5 days in st Charles


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Holzhauser's Bar & Grill in Portland
 -  + Ordered food…..never got it.
Discussion started 05/21/24 2:21:46 PM by Mike - 3 replies (last reply by Clinton at 05/22/24 7:53:45 PM)
Mike from Chicago on 05/21/24 2:21:46 PM
Ordered food…..never got it.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 05/21/24 5:37:12 PM
Then what did you do?

 
anonymous on 05/22/24 10:25:23 AM

a) I asked about my order and got my food soon after.

b) I never asked about my order and left in disbelief about their error, accepting though that humans error.

c) I never asked about my order, left in disbelief about their error and made a post hoping everyone would learn of the injustice.

d) I never asked about my order, left in disbelief and made a post hoping everyone would learn of the injustice realizing later that I errored by not asking about my order and that by not asking I should not have made the comment that I did.

 
Clinton from Clinton on 05/22/24 7:53:45 PM
e) I never asked about my order, left in disbelief and ate cicadas all the rest of the way.


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Review - Chilhowee City Park
 -  + Two camp sites. No fee. Some trees, but not really good for a hammock. Two blocks from the trailhead. No toilet I could find, which meant walking back to the trailhead to use the port-a-potty there...
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Michael from Arnold on 05/22/24 5:44:23 PM
Two camp sites. No fee. Some trees, but not really good for a hammock. Two blocks from the trailhead. No toilet I could find, which meant walking back to the trailhead to use the port-a-potty there. Noisy all night: several dogs (some loose), noisy cars all night, late night visitors to the park. The nearby store was not open in the evening, but was open in the morning.


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Steamboat Junction Campground in Bluffton
 -  + Great spot to camp. Check in was easy and the camping was great.
Discussion started 05/22/24 10:20:36 AM by Wayne - 0 replies
Wayne on 05/22/24 10:20:36 AM
Great spot to camp. Check in was easy and the camping was great.


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Lindenhof Bed & Breakfast in Augusta
 -  + Right off the Katy Trail in Augusta, MO, this B&B is a haven for travelers. Loved that fact that there was a bike room with power to store our ebikes. The sleeping room was comfortable, the common a...
Discussion started 05/20/24 8:26:35 PM by Sharon - 0 replies
Sharon from Chicago, IL on 05/20/24 8:26:35 PM
Right off the Katy Trail in Augusta, MO, this B&B is a haven for travelers. Loved that fact that there was a bike room with power to store our ebikes. The sleeping room was comfortable, the common areas clean and welcoming, and breakfast was delicious. Lots of attention to detail by the innkeeper in both the upkeep, decorating, and service on the property. Highly recommend.


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Dormitory at School House B + B in Rocheport
 -  + Loved this stay and the town too
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Marsha Raymond from Green Valley on 05/18/24 3:01:50 PM
Loved this stay and the town too


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City Park in Pilot Grove
 -  + Camped here on a Saturday night (May 11, 2024). It was high school graduation night, so there was a celebration and party at the Community Center in the park, so we were not sure what to expect. But i...
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Ted from Jupiter, Florida on 05/18/24 1:52:07 PM
Camped here on a Saturday night (May 11, 2024). It was high school graduation night, so there was a celebration and party at the Community Center in the park, so we were not sure what to expect. But it turned out great, as the park has plenty of space for everyone -- campers, graduates and their families. There are two big shelters that can be used by campers, and they have plenty of electrical outlets, plus overhead lights. There is also plenty of open areas to pitch tents. There are flush toilets, but no showers, and the bathroom is not a place I would linger long. But you get what you pay for, and this is FREE to camp, and a bargain. When the community pool opens, I would assume after Memorial Day, you can pay for a shower there. We met a lot of locals who were hanging out for the graduation, and had some great conversations. Really enjoyed out stay here. And there is a Casey's a couple blocks away.


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Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin
 -  + The Katy literally cuts through the middle of this place. Spacious sites that are all pretty close to the bathroom/showers. We were a bit leary when we set up (Friday, May 10, 2024), as a big troop of...
Discussion started 05/18/24 1:47:12 PM by Ted - 0 replies
Ted from Jupiter, Florida on 05/18/24 1:47:12 PM
The Katy literally cuts through the middle of this place. Spacious sites that are all pretty close to the bathroom/showers. We were a bit leary when we set up (Friday, May 10, 2024), as a big troop of boy scouts was going to be arriving around 8 p.m. The Roundhouse owner said they would be a bit noisy when they arrived and set up, but that they would settle down fast. I took a shower after hearing that news, because I did the math, and there were two showers and two toilets, an no urinals. So using the bathroom after they arrived might be a challenge. Well, they all started arriving right on schedule, and it unfolded as expected, with initial noise followed by a very quiet camp, considering 32 tents had popped up. Amazingly enough, I never had a problem finding an empty stall, so I'm not sure what was going on, but I couldn't complain. Overall a very nice spot to stop on the trail, with a Casey's not far away, but on top of a steep hill.


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Cooper's Landing in Easley
 -  + Stayed here May 9, 2024. Let's get one thing clear: There are no flush toilets or showers. There are about 8 port-a-potties and potable water is available, along with power outlets to charge devices o...
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Ted from Jupiter, Florida on 05/18/24 1:39:19 PM
Stayed here May 9, 2024. Let's get one thing clear: There are no flush toilets or showers. There are about 8 port-a-potties and potable water is available, along with power outlets to charge devices or e-bike batteries. You can buy bottles or cans of beer and wine, and a few snacks and some sandwiches, but it is not a place to expect to restock your pantry or have a full dinner. That said, this place is pretty darned cool. We camped, and made reservations, since it was filling up fast for Mother's Day Weekend. We got lucky, as there was a band scheduled to play that Thursday night, along with a food truck. So we rolled in around 3 p.m. and set up and enjoyed the view of the river. The young woman who checked us in mentioned the concert and food truck, and warned us to eat early since the food truck always sold old. The band was Todd Day Wait, the food truck Stuffed Potatoes. So for $30 we got a riverfront campsite and three-hour concert, along with the opportunity to buy dinner and beverages. I say it was a great deal, as Todd Day Wait and his band, which plays western swing, was top shelf. He sounds like a young Willie Nelson, and I can see why more than 100 people showed up. I did pick up a tick, so beware of that. But overall, one of best nights on the trail.


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Klondike Park in Augusta
 -  + Not much has been said about the power plant on the other side of the river that was at a low roar during our stay. White noise, but ear plugs recommended. We stayed at site 34, near bathrooms/showers...
Discussion started 05/18/24 1:22:31 PM by Ted - 0 replies
Ted from Jupiter, Florida on 05/18/24 1:22:31 PM
Not much has been said about the power plant on the other side of the river that was at a low roar during our stay. White noise, but ear plugs recommended. We stayed at site 34, near bathrooms/showers. All those sites around there are nice, but were a bit soggy due to rain. Showers were push-button and just warm enough. And no matter which way you are coming or going, there are steep sections as the campground is up on the bluff. I thought the west entrance was the best, since it is short and paved. Coming on from the east on loose gravel with tough switchbacks t the top was a tough way to end the day. Leaving obviously easier than coming.


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Trail Conditions from Columbia to St Charles
 -  + Since all the storms, is trail pretty mushy now and any big wash-outs or flooding? DNR does not show trail detail. May pop on May 23-26 depending on mushiness. Would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
Discussion started 05/15/24 2:00:19 PM by DS Douin - 1 reply (last reply by GWW at 05/16/24 4:23:34 PM)
DS Douin from KT on 05/15/24 2:00:19 PM
Since all the storms, is trail pretty mushy now and any big wash-outs or flooding? DNR does not show trail detail.
May pop on May 23-26 depending on mushiness.
Would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

 
GWW from Washington on 05/16/24 4:23:34 PM
As of yesterday afternoon, there was a tree down and fully across the trail just east of Marthasville. It should be removed by now, but be aware. You'll have to get off the trail to get around it.


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Kim's Cabins in Windsor
 -  + Does Kim's also have camping availble? We have friends who camp and friends who need a cabin! Or, any other suggestions would be helpful. The one in Defiance does, but we want something further wes...
Discussion started 05/13/24 12:00:03 PM by Jen K - 6 replies (last reply by Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins at 05/15/24 11:45:07 AM)
Jen K from St. lous on 05/13/24 12:00:03 PM
Does Kim's also have camping availble? We have friends who camp and friends who need a cabin! Or, any other suggestions would be helpful. The one in Defiance does, but we want something further west.

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/13/24 6:58:13 PM
Hey Kim! You really need to get a phone!
:-)

 
Clinton from Clinton on 05/13/24 11:03:55 PM
Kim and her cabins are as good as it gets, but I don’t think she has camping. Katy-Rock Junction is within sight and shouting distance of Kim’s Cabins and is a tent camping delight with a super clean bath house and lots of little extras. Cabin at Kim’s and camp at Katy-Rock and everyone will be happy.

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 05/14/24 9:25:33 AM
Kim here ?? I don't have camping, just my four modern cabins with kitchens. As Clinton said, across the street is wonderful Katy-Rock Junction and I often have folks do a mix of both mine and theirs. My phone number is everywhere if anyone needs it - 660-351-0905. Thanks for checking!

 
anonymous on 05/14/24 1:47:05 PM
Kim here??

Kim.....you not sure if you're Kim or not??

 
Clinton from Clinton on 05/15/24 12:06:37 AM
Kim knows who she is, and everyone who is anyone knows who Kim is. The question is, who are you, Skippy? Oh, I’m sorry, Anonymous?

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 05/15/24 11:45:07 AM
Definitely Kim here - have no idea why the question marks except my eyes are getting old ??


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group rides on KATY
 -  + I am looking to join a small group/tour for a 3-4 day ride on the trail. Don't feel comfortable going solo. Preferably Rocheport-St.Charles. Any tour or guide services advice would be appreciated.
Discussion started 04/29/24 12:41:57 PM by Suzannw - 3 replies (last reply by CurtM at 05/14/24 9:08:41 PM)
Suzannw from Kentucky on 04/29/24 12:41:57 PM
I am looking to join a small group/tour for a 3-4 day ride on the trail. Don't feel comfortable going solo. Preferably Rocheport-St.Charles. Any tour or guide services advice would be appreciated.

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 05/06/24 6:49:02 PM
I've done the MKT several times solo and you should not be intimidated. I can't think of any place other than maybe North Jefferson where I wouldn't leave a vehicle. Having said that, parking at the Community Center in Clinton (west portal) or St Charles (not quite the east portal, but close) are plenty safe. You check in at the Clinton Community Center, which is about a half mile from the start on a decent bike trail. There's also camping there. As others have mentioned, there are hotels in St Charles where you can park a vehicle, or there is parking along the trail itself in several public lots. I would say that you need to be able to handle bad weather (thunderstorms, hail, high summer temps/humidity, etc.); that's the real risk. This web site is super for finding accommodations, cafes, shuttles, etc. You'll have a great time.

 
anonymous on 05/08/24 7:30:27 AM
Cool for women to ride solo, I am 100% up for that but do you see women doing it often?

 
CurtM from Farmington AR on 05/14/24 9:08:41 PM
Another two cents worth. I would guess that solo riders are not in the majority, but I would say of the walkers, hikers and other trail users I've seen more women than men going it alone. I do remember a woman hiking across the US alone that I met on the MKT a few years ago. If you want to test the trail, would maybe recommend the Big Bike across Missouri (Big BAM) event. 2024 dates are 2-6 June and 6-12 Oct. It's a group ride but it's so strung out that you may as well be riding solo, which you can do if you wish. You'll be with the group in the evenings, so it may be a good way to see the trail by yourself but still have the companionship when you want it. In fact, last summer I kind of rode through the middle of the group, but was still traveling pretty much alone. Would recommend October simply because June can get warm. Cheers.


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Shuttle Recommendations St. Charles to Springfield
 -  + My wife and I are being dropped off in Clinton and plan to bike to St Charles. Would like some recommendations for a shuttle to return to Springfield and save my sister another long drive to pick us ...
Discussion started 05/07/24 10:31:09 AM by Jim - 1 reply (last reply by Channabilly, Channahon at 05/12/24 4:02:18 PM)
Jim from St Petersburg, FL on 05/07/24 10:31:09 AM
My wife and I are being dropped off in Clinton and plan to bike to St Charles. Would like some recommendations for a shuttle to return to Springfield and save my sister another long drive to pick us up.

 
Channabilly from Channahon on 05/12/24 4:02:18 PM
The wife and I used Katy Bike Rental and Shuttle last year and are signed up for June this year too. I don't have anything to compare it to to say if there is better or worse. They leave daily at 8:00 AM from old St. Charles behind a hotel right off the trail. It's a big commuter van with an enclosed trailer for your bikes and gear. No frills, but they do a per person rate of $120 unlike others which require a group of 4. They have an entry in the Shuttle section of the Trip Planner, but here's their info:

Bike Rental, Shuttle
St Charles MO
636-987-2600
https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/katybikerentalshuttle/items/?flow=883602&full-items=yes

Like I said, don't know if they're the best or worst, but we're using them again.

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trail conditions
 -  + We're riding west out of St. Charles towards McKittrick on May 9, 10 or 11. Anything on the trail we should be aware of? I saw there have been flood advisories in the area. Thank you.
Discussion started 05/08/24 5:31:38 PM by LG - 1 reply (last reply by Bill R. at 05/08/24 8:46:14 PM)
LG from Des Moines on 05/08/24 5:31:38 PM
We're riding west out of St. Charles towards McKittrick on May 9, 10 or 11. Anything on the trail we should be aware of? I saw there have been flood advisories in the area. Thank you.

 
Bill R. from Wentzville on 05/08/24 8:46:14 PM
With storms and winds you might just be aware that there could be blowdowns on the trail corridor until DNR can get them cleared. I rode that area Sunday and it was fine. A little spongy and slow riding in some shaded areas. But otherwise ...


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Washington to Sedalia
 -  + My wife and I will riding from Washington to Sedalia then taking tha Amtrak back to Washington. Looking for suggestions of places to eat and see along that route.
Discussion started 05/08/24 8:17:45 AM by Joe - 1 reply (last reply at 05/08/24 1:10:13 PM)
Joe from Madison, Wi on 05/08/24 8:17:45 AM
My wife and I will riding from Washington to Sedalia then taking tha Amtrak back to Washington. Looking for suggestions of places to eat and see along that route.

 
anonymous on 05/08/24 1:10:13 PM
What to see/eat entirely depends on what you like. The trail of course is what to see. We take our time and smell the roses. The limestone bluffs, the river, the farm land, tree canopies, wild flowers and wildlife are all worth taking time for. Other than that I think both Jefferson City and Hermann are good short detours off the trail.

Jefferson City has the Missouri State Capitol which is worth a tour for the Thomas Hart Benton murals. Arris' Pizza and Madison's are good lunch stops near the capitol.

Hermann is quaint little German town with German beer, wine, food and architecture. Wineries with polka bands on the patio can be fun too. HUP....HUP.....HO!!! Loutre Market just south of the Katy at McKittrick has been a good stop to buy Hermann area wine often for less than winery prices.

Happy Trails!


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Trail Condition - Any issues
 -  + Looking to ride the trail from Clinton to Machens on Saturday, May 11th. Are there any know issues, detours, flooding, etc. at this time? I'm not seeing any issues reported in this forum. This will...
Discussion started 05/07/24 7:50:26 AM by Roger - 1 reply (last reply at 05/07/24 7:56:13 AM)
Roger from Boonville, IN on 05/07/24 7:50:26 AM
Looking to ride the trail from Clinton to Machens on Saturday, May 11th. Are there any know issues, detours, flooding, etc. at this time? I'm not seeing any issues reported in this forum. This will be my 3rd time riding the trial in one day so I'm familiar with the trail. Thanks for any and all input.

 
anonymous on 05/07/24 7:56:13 AM
Nothing on DNR's advisory map except a tick warning.


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