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Tess from OFallon on 7/18/2012 8:44:28 AM:

To whom it may concern: Have you considered a Facebook account?? This forum is very difficult to navigate and there's no way to be notified if anyone answers a question you post. Facebook could really improve your circulation as well. Just a thought!

TMI on 7/18/2012 8:49:59 AM:

Tess, I realize you and Steve may find it difficult to believe but there are people in the world who don't have and don't want facebook accounts. Ray is a master at what he does and we long time forum readers are very satisfied with his website. But he has twitter for the twits.

Tess from OFallon on 7/18/2012 9:59:54 AM:

First off, you have never read a comment from me stating that Ray isn't doing his job. This was only a suggestion. A suggestion, I might add that you didn't even consider, before turning it down. If you've never had a Facebook account, how can you comment on how it could affect this forum? It would never take away from what you have here, but it would reach thousands of others and it would only be an additonal (and easier way) for individuals to talk about and get answers to what concerns them. I'm sorry you took offense at a suggestion. BTW: Who is Steve?!?

kevin from Jeff City on 7/18/2012 12:42:10 PM:

That is a great idea, but there's no reason why this site should do it. FB pages take a lot of time to manage. A FB page for a site like this is a lot different from a personal FB account, and takes time to maintain. Same for Google+, Pinterest or anything else.

It's easy to let on-line discussions there get out of control, so unless there are some angels out there who Ray would trust to monitor it, it may be more work than it's worth. Besides, he manages similar sites for other trails.

There are several Katy Trail-related pages out there, so it may be that there is already someone doing something similar. Or one of us could start a page.

Trek on 7/18/2012 12:50:58 PM:

It is sometimes difficult to get through the forum. But, there was an addition of tags recently that should help.

And on the home page there is a large "?" to search the site which makes it really pretty easy to find something.

Although it's probably not like facebook, it works.

ArkyKenny from Farmington, AR on 7/18/2012 2:24:24 PM:

Well said TMI. Great job Ray!

"Just say No" to Facebook.

Animus on 7/18/2012 7:08:00 PM:

We don't need no stinking Facebook! ;)

Doug from Bluffton on 7/18/2012 7:16:06 PM:

Please Ray, Do Not listen to her. Tess you obviously saw that someone replied to your post so notification is not needed. This website is the absolute easiest to use I have ever seen. Let us not complicate things. Besides, Facebook sucks. Just my ever so humble opinion.

Jim from St. Thomas on 7/18/2012 10:35:11 PM:

Tess, Please forgive my fellow Luddites. Change is a terifying thing to us and we sometimes forget common coutesy when confronted with it. That said I agree that it would be a major pain in the arse for Ray to maintain a public Facebook presence and I am very happy with the current site.

Ray ( webmaster ) on 7/19/2012 7:36:23 AM:

Thank you, I always appreciate suggestions.

I am a Facebook user and think it's a great tool. But I have not set up a trail-related FB page because I can do more useful stuff with the forum comments when the discussion is kept here within the website. I can provide the tagging feature (tagging is not perfect but it goes a long way in helping with navigation). I can make comments about towns and businesses show up on the pages for those towns and businesses. I can pre-emptively filter out (most) spam, porn, and other inappropriate comments. If the discussion were moved over to FB, these things would not be possible or at least would require a lot of extra work in copying the FB comments into the website, adding tags, etc. There would definitely be some advantages in FB, but I think keeping the forum within the site provides a higher level of usefulness.

Having said that, I really do like your idea of having an option to be notified when someone replies to your post. I am going to add this to the development list (right after the itinerary builder feature which is still on the way).

Thanks again for suggestions, and all the compliments. :-)

Tess from OFallon on 7/19/2012 8:53:13 AM:

Thanks Ray. It was never my intention to move this forum, just add an additional one on FB. Possibly a group site where people can add their experiences or ask questions. I love the fact you can add notifications here. There are questions I've added and never got a "known" response because they are buried so far back in time. That and I'm positive the same questions are asked time and time again because people don't have the time to flip through each page every time the come here.

Anonymous on 7/19/2012 9:48:51 AM:

Maybe at the very least we could just get a Like button? And we could click on it once and again for what ever purpose that serves.

Gary from Near Tebbetts on 7/19/2012 8:40:01 PM:

Ray, in the past, I signed up for your auto notification of new posts to this page. That has work well for me and could be solution for Tess. I just don't remember where or how I got it started.

Billy from Mokane on 7/20/2012 8:34:19 AM:

I like this forum just fine. Pats on the back here to Ray.

TMI on 7/20/2012 10:43:35 AM:

Tess, I am guessing but you have probably grown up with FB? I understand the FB dependance since all my family members have accounts. But as you can see from the other comments, this forum has some of the capabilities you need but not all. I am not objecting to change just this forum and website does have a great deal to offer if you do a small tutorial. Oh sorry, its Mark not Steve (Zuckerberg), my bad, right.

Tim from Raymore, MO on 7/22/2012 6:52:11 PM:

I like the current platform just fine. I think you do a fine job Ray and it's definately more managable this way. Thanks for all you do for us!

Mark from St. Louis on 7/27/2012 8:53:11 AM:

Read the first few posts and am commenting - hopefully not re-posting others thoughts.

"This forum is very difficult to navigate "
This implies that Ray isn't doing his job, so don't argue that you didn't say that.

My main point - This site is wonderful. I biked a 15 miles out/15mile back a few weeks ago, and am hooked. Getting ready to do a 30 mile out and back + overnighter tonight. This site has been very helpful and facebook would be a waste.

Besides, facebook and google plus are fads, this site will always show in search engines and thus be easier to find.

Michael rodemeyer from Hartsburg on 7/27/2012 3:34:58 PM:

First horse manure and now facebook, both the same to me. How have we survived on the trail without such?

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