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Katy Ride-Marthasville-Pubs
 -  + A freind of mine said there might be a pub in Marthasville that has $.75 beers. Is this true? I am riding from East to West between June 19 and 23, with the hopes of getting absolutely wasted every n...
Discussion started 06/10/2006 11:24 PM by shotgun - 5 replies (last reply by sbikes at 06/14/2006 09:52 PM)
shotgun from Juneau, AK on 06/10/2006 11:24 PM
A freind of mine said there might be a pub in Marthasville that has $.75 beers. Is this true? I am riding from East to West between June 19 and 23, with the hopes of getting absolutely wasted every nite. Does anybody have any suggestions about good bars and cheap libations on or around the trail?

 
sharron sussman from Julian California on 06/11/2006 06:42 PM
There's a classic bar & grill in Marthasville (I wouldn't exactly call it a "pub",) I think called the Gables, or the Twin Gables. It has pool tables, a large, boisterous clientele and a menu featuring good homemade batterfried everything in addition to a range of burgers. After I ate the onion rings and the chicken gizzards, I couldn't finish my "mini-gable" burger, so ate it the next day. In fact, I was pretty full for about 36 hours after that little culinary adventure! It would be a good place to get "wasted." (I only had two beers (big, dark draft, don't remember the price but it was reasonable.) In retrospect, I probably could have handled a pitcher and it would have been even cheaper!

 
Paul from Chesterfield,MO on 06/11/2006 09:20 PM
I was just in Marthasville yesterday and I am going to be camping there on the 19th with about 300 other riders with the 2006 DNR Katy Trail ride... There is a bar on the highway just southeast of the trail and I'm sure the beer is pretty reasonably priced there. Lorettas was a neat bar and restaurant that could be closed now. I like to stop at the Augusta Brewery and sample the IPA and Hyde Park stout! You just have to stop there. Dutzow has a neat deli right at the trail head and they also serve a couple of Augusta's brew on tap. The food is great there and affordable. We are going to camp in Jeff City the next night after a 60 mile plus day... hope it's cool for that day. Good luck on your trip and feel free to email me,

Paul

 
Austin from Longmont, CO on 06/14/2006 12:12 AM
If you make it to Hartsburg, be sure to stop at the Hitching Post.

 
Damon from Kansas Citiy, MIssouri on 06/14/2006 06:13 PM
I too will recommend the Hitching Post in Hartsburg. I have been there 3 times and there is always a good mix of locals and Columbia College kids there and best of all they have FAT TIRE on tap there. I couldn't believe my eyes! Fat Tire on tap in BFE Missouri? Got to love that!! Enjoy your ride and have one for me man!!

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/14/2006 09:52 PM
The winery in Hartsburg has a decent selection of beer...including my favorite...Guiness!

And, don't forget the smoothies at Hartsburg Cycle Depot...no alcohol, but tasty and very

refreshing!


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Cracked Crab (Rocheport)
 -  + I really miss the Cracked Crab...such good food. Will Someone take over that building and make is something for us bikers? Rocheport needs more "on-the-trail" businesses.
Discussion started 05/30/2006 11:37 AM by Drew & Karen - 2 replies (last reply by sbikes at 06/14/2006 08:44 PM)
Drew & Karen from Blue Springs, MO on 05/30/2006 11:37 AM
I really miss the Cracked Crab...such good food. Will Someone take over that building and make is something for us bikers? Rocheport needs more "on-the-trail" businesses.

 
Drew & Karen from Blue Springs, MO on 05/30/2006 11:37 AM
I really miss the Cracked Crab...such good food. Will Someone take over that building and make is something for us bikers? Rocheport needs more "on-the-trail" businesses.

 
Mike from Rocheport on 06/14/2006 06:31 PM
Cracked Crab is indeed gone, former building owner did not renew lease with restaurant operator. Building was sold a month or so ago to new owners. Rumor has it they will use building as a residence, so don't expect to see any restaurant there in the immediate future. Rocheport does have other fine dining opportunities, Abigail's and the Les Bourgeois Bistro, and besides the Trailside Cafe', the Rocheport General Store on Central (what passes for a business district) Street will be open by the DNR trail ride. General Store will have coffee, sandwiches, beer and a limited selection of dry goods and foodstuffs for purchase.

 
Mike from Rocheport on 06/14/2006 06:31 PM
Cracked Crab is indeed gone, former building owner did not renew lease with restaurant operator. Building was sold a month or so ago to new owners. Rumor has it they will use building as a residence, so don't expect to see any restaurant there in the immediate future. Rocheport does have other fine dining opportunities, Abigail's and the Les Bourgeois Bistro, and besides the Trailside Cafe', the Rocheport General Store on Central (what passes for a business district) Street will be open by the DNR trail ride. General Store will have coffee, sandwiches, beer and a limited selection of dry goods and foodstuffs for purchase.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/14/2006 08:44 PM
There is a Cracked Crab open in downtown Jeff City now just off High Street on Madison. It is

the same folks who ran the place in Rocheport and has been open a year or 2.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/14/2006 08:44 PM
There is a Cracked Crab open in downtown Jeff City now just off High Street on Madison. It is

the same folks who ran the place in Rocheport and has been open a year or 2.


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S.O.B.'s (Steedman)
 -  + We stopped there after riding in the 95 degree heat and the beer went down real easy. Burgers and chicken strips hit the spot too. We had to come home with an SOB's t shirt too.
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Marge & MIke from Pacific, MO on 06/14/2006 09:08 AM
We stopped there after riding in the 95 degree heat and the beer went down real easy. Burgers and chicken strips hit the spot too. We had to come home with an SOB's t shirt too.

 
Marge & MIke from Pacific, MO on 06/14/2006 09:08 AM
We stopped there after riding in the 95 degree heat and the beer went down real easy. Burgers and chicken strips hit the spot too. We had to come home with an SOB's t shirt too.


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Parking
 -  + I plan to ride the trail for approximately 4 days camping along the way. I will be riding East to West and would like to know where I can park my vehicle for several days overnight without fear of ge...
Discussion started 06/10/2006 09:27 PM by Aaron Shehan - 2 replies (last reply by ET at 06/14/2006 08:56 AM)
Aaron Shehan from Springfield, Illinois on 06/10/2006 09:27 PM
I plan to ride the trail for approximately 4 days camping along the way. I will be riding East to West and would like to know where I can park my vehicle for several days overnight without fear of getting a ticket or coming back to my car on cement blocks. Please help-Aaron

 
Nails on 06/11/2006 07:42 AM
Sure. Leave your car locked in your gararge, ride to the Springfield station and take the Ann Rutledge or State House to St. Louis.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/14/2006 08:56 AM
Are you starting at St. Charles? We haven't ever left a car there, so can't speak to that, but we have never had any problems with leaving our cars at the parking lots in the more rural trail heads.


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Catch the Katy - DNR Ride 2006
 -  + I am planning on going with the Catch the Katy trip, June 19-23. Two questions that I hope someone can help me with. 1.) Will we have access to electricity in the camp site? For recharging of cell p...
Discussion started 05/29/2006 04:26 PM - 3 replies (last reply by Paul at 06/11/2006 10:13 PM)
Anonymous on 05/29/2006 04:26 PM
I am planning on going with the Catch the Katy trip, June 19-23. Two questions that I hope someone can help me with. 1.) Will we have access to electricity in the camp site? For recharging of cell phone, fans etc. 2.) What is the exact location or nearest crossroads of the "trail head" in ST. Charles. On a recient trip through St. Charles no one seemed to know what I was talking about.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 05/29/2006 06:53 PM
Department of Natural Resources who sponsors the ride will be the best place to get answers

to your questions about the ride. I would expect no electricity at the campsites as the

camping is normally in city parks and the like, not commercial campsites. As for the

location of the trail head, there is a map on this site (go to "towns & services" and click on St.

Charles.

 
frank from festus on 05/29/2006 07:59 PM
sorry can't help you on the electricity thing at the camp grounds, however, the st. charles trailhead is a piece of cake to find. take I-70 east or west (depending on which direction you are going or coming from) to st. charles, take the fifth street exit and go toward the historic district, there are signs, and follow to the katy trail. it is very hard to miss. if you are going west on I-70, you actually cross over the katy when passin the casino after you cross the missouri river on the blanchette bridge. i believe the fifth street exit is the first exit going west on I-70 after crossing the misouri river. have fun, be safe, happy bikin,

 
Paul from Chesterfield,MO on 06/11/2006 10:13 PM
Take the 5th Street exit North and get(stay) in the right hand lane and exit at the light at the bottom of the hill... the lane will end.

I find that ou have to be resourcefull in order to find that free outlet to charge the cell phone... sometimes you can do it at a restaurant when you are having lunch... I found an outlet at the city park in Herman last year but we are not staying there!! You just have to keep your eye out for one and get there before I do!!

good luck,

Paul


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Parking Suggestions
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We gave up trying to get to the bike trail starting off of 94 and
Pittman. There is road construction and a detour that did not take
us where we needed to go. So try another trailhead.
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We gave up trying to get to the bike trail starting off of 94 and

Pittman. There is road construction and a detour that did not take

us where we needed to go. So try another trailhead.


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Yates House B&B (Rocheport)
 -  + This place is wonderful. Dixie and Conrad Yates are warm and friendly, the perfect hosts. The breakfast is INCREDIBLE. Fresh seasonal ingredients prepared perfectly, with enough of it to skip lunch...
Discussion started 06/08/2006 07:14 PM by Lora - 0 replies
Lora from Kansas City on 06/08/2006 07:14 PM
This place is wonderful. Dixie and Conrad Yates are warm and friendly, the perfect hosts. The breakfast is INCREDIBLE. Fresh seasonal ingredients prepared perfectly, with enough of it to skip lunch. This will fuel you right for any ride you care to take.

 
Lora from Kansas City on 06/08/2006 07:14 PM
This place is wonderful. Dixie and Conrad Yates are warm and friendly, the perfect hosts. The breakfast is INCREDIBLE. Fresh seasonal ingredients prepared perfectly, with enough of it to skip lunch. This will fuel you right for any ride you care to take.


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St Charles Hotel (formerly Baymont) (St Charles)
 -  + My son and I are riding the trail from Clinton to St. Charles.
Need some suggestions as to a nice place to stay in St. Charles for a Mom and her son (college age)?
Discussion started 06/05/2006 10:18 PM by ECF - 1 reply (last reply by Austin at 06/07/2006 03:43 PM)
ECF from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 10:18 PM
My son and I are riding the trail from Clinton to St. Charles.

Need some suggestions as to a nice place to stay in St. Charles for a Mom and her son (college age)?

 
ECF from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 10:18 PM
My son and I are riding the trail from Clinton to St. Charles.

Need some suggestions as to a nice place to stay in St. Charles for a Mom and her son (college age)?

 
Austin from Longmont, CO on 06/07/2006 03:43 PM
When I rode from Washington to Sedalia last month, I stayed at the Hermann Motel in Hermann, and at the Globe Hotel in Hartsburg. They both worked out great. The Globe is nice because you can get rooms with 2 beds.

 
Austin from Longmont, CO on 06/07/2006 03:43 PM
When I rode from Washington to Sedalia last month, I stayed at the Hermann Motel in Hermann, and at the Globe Hotel in Hartsburg. They both worked out great. The Globe is nice because you can get rooms with 2 beds.


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Hartsburg Cycle Depot (Hartsburg)
 -  + A God-send. Our tandem had a wheel wobbling and it was diagnosed as some broken spokes. The fix was extremely reasonable. The advice to invest in a stronger wheel frame well taken in. Love the Eng...
Discussion started 05/30/2006 12:33 PM by Drew & Karen - 5 replies (last reply by sbikes at 06/05/2006 09:05 PM)
Drew & Karen from Blue Springs, MO on 05/30/2006 12:33 PM
A God-send. Our tandem had a wheel wobbling and it was diagnosed as some broken spokes. The fix was extremely reasonable. The advice to invest in a stronger wheel frame well taken in. Love the English accent! We saw a flat tire come in while we were there. Talked to a man from Jefferson City who rides every weekend day from there to Hartsburg. He's put in 11,000 in 9 years! He recommends Brooks saddles for your bike (the sell them at Cycle Depot)...they are made in England. He said he wouldn't ride another.



They had some very stylish biking attire which I coveted, but we settled for a Cycle Depot shirt and a couple of DELICIOUS smooties. Banana and strawberry I believe. You will love these owners. Sweeties...both.

 
Drew & Karen from Blue Springs, MO on 05/30/2006 12:33 PM
A God-send. Our tandem had a wheel wobbling and it was diagnosed as some broken spokes. The fix was extremely reasonable. The advice to invest in a stronger wheel frame well taken in. Love the English accent! We saw a flat tire come in while we were there. Talked to a man from Jefferson City who rides every weekend day from there to Hartsburg. He's put in 11,000 in 9 years! He recommends Brooks saddles for your bike (the sell them at Cycle Depot)...they are made in England. He said he wouldn't ride another.



They had some very stylish biking attire which I coveted, but we settled for a Cycle Depot shirt and a couple of DELICIOUS smooties. Banana and strawberry I believe. You will love these owners. Sweeties...both.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 05/30/2006 03:21 PM
I rode a Peugeot years ago that I put a Brooks leather saddle on. It was quite comfortable after that million mile break-in period. It was a good saddle with a custom fit, but my modern day synthetic saddle seems to fit nicely without the leather break-in time.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 05/30/2006 03:21 PM
I rode a Peugeot years ago that I put a Brooks leather saddle on. It was quite comfortable after that million mile break-in period. It was a good saddle with a custom fit, but my modern day synthetic saddle seems to fit nicely without the leather break-in time.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 05/30/2006 10:04 PM
I have always wanted a Brooks saddle, but that million mile break in period has been a

deterrent for me as well... I love my Terry butterfly saddle that I have on both my mountain

bike and my road bike. It fits me well and is quite comfy.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 05/30/2006 10:04 PM
I have always wanted a Brooks saddle, but that million mile break in period has been a

deterrent for me as well... I love my Terry butterfly saddle that I have on both my mountain

bike and my road bike. It fits me well and is quite comfy.

 
MLH from Overland Park KS on 05/30/2006 11:42 PM
I use a Brooks B17 on my Katy bike and can't believe how well it works, much better than numerous Fizik and others that I have tried. No bike saddle is "comfortable" per se but this one seems to make more posteriors less unhappy than most others that is, if you talk to full-time tourers, bike shop owners such as Mark and check out the reviews on Mountainbike.com review:



http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Saddle/product_22663.shtml



The thing looks so uncomfortable but seems to mold to it's master over time without the need for gels etc. but of course no saddle is for everyone.


 
MLH from Overland Park KS on 05/30/2006 11:42 PM
I use a Brooks B17 on my Katy bike and can't believe how well it works, much better than numerous Fizik and others that I have tried. No bike saddle is "comfortable" per se but this one seems to make more posteriors less unhappy than most others that is, if you talk to full-time tourers, bike shop owners such as Mark and check out the reviews on Mountainbike.com review:



http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Saddle/product_22663.shtml



The thing looks so uncomfortable but seems to mold to it's master over time without the need for gels etc. but of course no saddle is for everyone.


 
Mom who rides with her daughters from Lee's Summit on 06/04/2006 12:31 PM
That place was the greatest. Great people. My daughters loved the rootbeer floats. Great conversationalists with great stories also.

Also, a great place to eat next door.


 
Mom who rides with her daughters from Lee's Summit on 06/04/2006 12:31 PM
That place was the greatest. Great people. My daughters loved the rootbeer floats. Great conversationalists with great stories also.

Also, a great place to eat next door.


 
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 09:05 PM
Can't beat the smoothies at Hartsburg either. They are so refreshing after being out on the

trail and they are all fruit and fruit juice which I appreciate.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 09:05 PM
Can't beat the smoothies at Hartsburg either. They are so refreshing after being out on the

trail and they are all fruit and fruit juice which I appreciate.


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Doll House B&B (Rhineland)
 -  + We stayed here this past week on our first Katy Trail bike trip and I would reccommend this B & B to anyone. We were welcomed at the front door with delicious cookies and lemonade and the rooms were s...
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tina from st. louis on 06/05/2006 06:10 PM
We stayed here this past week on our first Katy Trail bike trip and I would reccommend this B & B to anyone. We were welcomed at the front door with delicious cookies and lemonade and the rooms were so cute and well taken care of. The breakfast was so yummy and the whole experience was first rate. Definitely put this on your list!

 
tina from st. louis on 06/05/2006 06:10 PM
We stayed here this past week on our first Katy Trail bike trip and I would reccommend this B & B to anyone. We were welcomed at the front door with delicious cookies and lemonade and the rooms were so cute and well taken care of. The breakfast was so yummy and the whole experience was first rate. Definitely put this on your list!


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Augusta Bicycle Company (Augusta)
 -  + HOT, HUNGRY & THIRSTY. WE STOPPED AT A LITTLE PLACE NEW TO US. HAD A FRUIT SMOOTHIE AND SANDWICH. HOW REFRESHING. WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO ANY BIKER OR PASSERBY!!
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JOANNE from ST. LOUIS on 06/05/2006 10:26 AM
HOT, HUNGRY & THIRSTY. WE STOPPED AT A LITTLE PLACE NEW TO US. HAD A FRUIT SMOOTHIE AND SANDWICH. HOW REFRESHING. WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO ANY BIKER OR PASSERBY!!

 
JOANNE from ST. LOUIS on 06/05/2006 10:26 AM
HOT, HUNGRY & THIRSTY. WE STOPPED AT A LITTLE PLACE NEW TO US. HAD A FRUIT SMOOTHIE AND SANDWICH. HOW REFRESHING. WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO ANY BIKER OR PASSERBY!!


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Lucy's Bar & Grill (McBaine)
 -  + We stopped by Lucy's Bar and Grill on Tuesday April 18,2006 for lunch while riding the trail. It was awesome!!!!!! We enjoyed the atomosphere, the food, and the cold beer. Kenny, Shelly, and Lucy m...
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We stopped by Lucy's Bar and Grill on Tuesday April 18,2006 for lunch while riding the trail. It was awesome!!!!!! We enjoyed the atomosphere, the food, and the cold beer. Kenny, Shelly, and Lucy made all of us feel very welcome. We ordered the cheeseburger with everything on it. It was to die for. We will definitely stop there again. They are open Sun-Tues from 7am to 7pm, Wed-Sat 7am to close. We highly recommend stopping at Lucy's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Three chicks from Marshall from Marshall on 04/19/2006 03:23 PM
We stopped by Lucy's Bar and Grill on Tuesday April 18,2006 for lunch while riding the trail. It was awesome!!!!!! We enjoyed the atomosphere, the food, and the cold beer. Kenny, Shelly, and Lucy made all of us feel very welcome. We ordered the cheeseburger with everything on it. It was to die for. We will definitely stop there again. They are open Sun-Tues from 7am to 7pm, Wed-Sat 7am to close. We highly recommend stopping at Lucy's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
TS from Alma, Kansas on 06/05/2006 07:57 AM
We ate at Lucy's (twice!) the weekend of June 3 & 4th. Good food, friendly service, a definite place to stop.

 
TS from Alma, Kansas on 06/05/2006 07:57 AM
We ate at Lucy's (twice!) the weekend of June 3 & 4th. Good food, friendly service, a definite place to stop.


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Best Segments of the Trail?
 -  + I have ride the trail with my toddler that will only handle about 15-20 miles of bike riding
at a time. What segments of the trail are your favorites? So far our favorite has been
McBaine to R...
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MLB from Columbia on 05/26/2006 09:18 PM
I have ride the trail with my toddler that will only handle about 15-20 miles of bike riding

at a time. What segments of the trail are your favorites? So far our favorite has been

McBaine to Rocheport, but I want to get out and see more country as I'm new to Missouri. I

would appreciate some recommendations.

 
frank from festus on 05/28/2006 08:22 PM
mlb, my personla favorite is rocheport then east. HOWEVER, we are from festus, mo so me and wifey ususally ride from st. charles then west as far as the road crossing west of green bottoms road. we have also rode from defiance to augusta and back. i have rode from boonville to north jefferson and sedialia to 8 miles east. other than rocheport then east, once i got out of town in sedialia, it was an enjoyable ride, and defiance to augusta was an enjoyable ride. i did not care for the rocheport to new franklin ride, but enjoyed the ride on to boonville, except for the bridge crossing over the missouri river (scared of heights) even though there was a good guard rail on the bridge. hope this helps on your rides. happy bikin.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/29/2006 08:29 PM
The section of trail that goes along the Weldon Spring conservation area is very pretty and VERY SHADY. Another beautiful section is Portland to Bluffton--good river views.

 
Mom who rides with her daughters from Lee's Summit on 06/04/2006 12:44 PM
McBain to Jeff is also great/lots of good places to stop.

We however do spend the night in Jeff when we do this, and ride back the next day. We like to take our time and "play" along the way.

 
Mom who rides with her daughters from Lee's Summit on 06/04/2006 12:45 PM
McBain to Jeff is also great/lots of good places to stop.

We however do spend the night in Jeff when we do this, and ride back the next day. We like to take our time and "play" along the way.


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Family ride
 -  + I am planning a trip with my wife and kids (11 and 13)in early June. We will be starting in Sedalia and going to St Charles. We are planning on 40 to 50 miles a day. Looks like first night would be i...
Discussion started 04/29/2006 12:18 AM by Mike - 11 replies (last reply by Mom who rides with her daughters at 06/04/2006 12:41 PM)
Mike from Montgomery AL on 04/29/2006 12:18 AM
I am planning a trip with my wife and kids (11 and 13)in early June. We will be starting in Sedalia and going to St Charles. We are planning on 40 to 50 miles a day. Looks like first night would be in Rocheport, second in Jeff City, after that not sure where I can stay with children as B&Bs are not always family friendly. Any suggestions on family friendly places to stay or other advice for riding with kids?


 
sbikes from Kansas City on 04/29/2006 05:33 PM
You probably won't have any problem. Rather than going all the way to Jeff City, you might

consider staying in Hartsburg. The trail head in Jeff City is out in the middle of nowhere and

to get into town will most likely require a shuttle as I would not want my kids riding across

the bridge into town with 70 mph traffic. But, I think a number of the motels in Jeff City will

shuttle you, but it something to check on. For the most part, the Trail is very kid friendly.

You should have a great time!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 11:42 AM
In Rocheport, the best family-friendly place is the Katy Trail B & B. The Globe, in Hartsburg is excellent for families--you can get two connecting rooms, 1 with a double bed and 1 with twin beds. Rendelman House in Bluffton is also family friendly--but dont' expect elegance in your accommodations there. The Doll House, near Rhineland, welcomes kids, and we had good luck at Das Gast Haus Nadler in Augusta (or is it Defiance?). Also, if you want to stop earlier than Rocheport, The Officers Club in Boonville is really great for kids, but on the pricey side. Lots of games, movies, interesting stuff, and great food. You will have a terrific time with your kids--we've been doing this with ours since they were 4 and 6, and we have a great time every year (they're 9 and 11 now).

 
Wil on 05/09/2006 06:34 PM
The Officers Club B&B there in Boonville is amazingly kid and adult friendly and actually the prices were about the same or better then the other ones we have stayed in on the trail. The hospitality and food alone was well worth the stay!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/13/2006 07:29 AM
Here are a couple more of my thoughts on riding with kids. First of all, mine are younger than yours, so use your judgement, but I would say 40-50 miles is doable, but ambitious. I would think 30-40 would be better, but you know your kids. Just bear in mind that you shouldn't expect the same mileage as you would on roads or paved trails. It pays to be willing to take spontaneous stops, to look at turtles, to pick mulberries, whatever. Brett Dufur publishes a nature guide to the Katy Trail which is fairly good for identifying some of the common birds, flowers, reptiles and amphibians that you are likely to see. Unfortunately, the drawings are black and white, but at least it's a single book--it gets heavy to carry several! Carry lots of snacks; I get grumpy if I'm hungry and the next food place is 10 miles away, but you can double that for the kids. Carry swimsuits--they take very little room, and several B & Bs have hot tubs, plus there is a public pool in Pilot Grove, a public swim area in Columbia just off the spur (it's about 5 miles from McBaine, so it's a significant detour unless you're going to Columbia anyway), and probably other towns, but I'm not sure where. I would not plan on Jeff City--we have done it twice--once we took a taxi across the bridge, which worked, but wasn't great. We had arranged it in advance, but their vehicle with bike racks was out of commission, so they showed up with two cabs, and we had to dismantle everything and stick it in the trunks (and pay for two cabs); the second time we pushed our bikes across the northbound bike lane. NO WAY would I allow my kids to ride that, although I would do it myself. That bridge is a lot longer than you realize when you drive across it! Even when you get across, there's a bit of riding on access roads that we weren't too keen on.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/13/2006 07:34 AM
I forgot to list one other family-friendly B&B, which is The Little House in Marthasville-you get the whole place to yourself, with, as I recall 2 bedrooms, a kitchen and living room, plus front porch that overlooks the trail. This doesn't apply to your trip, but for anyone else planning a family trip, you should also consider Croose's Cabooses--a pretty fun stop for kids.

 
thriving girl from Kansas City on 05/26/2006 10:46 PM
Diddo on the miles to cover each day. Last July 4th, my family and I did well to cover 15 miles a day in the killer heat and humidity. While my 17 year old is fairly new to riding, my 11 year old has been riding parts of the trail with me since he was 3 and on tricycles. Heat and saddle soreness slowed even him down. The trip was still great because we planned for minimum miles, and then did extra miles if we felt up to it.

 
geea on 05/28/2006 08:44 PM
Do take care with your ride and allow break times for snacks and lots of fluids it was in the high 90's this memorial weekend. Saw a family of 12 on the trail, the plan was for them to do at least 30 miles a day. They did not make it in the heat. Three children were exhausted and could not make the last 10 miles. From Rochport to Hartsburg, which is 25 miles, was all they could do. It is not easy to find a shuttle around Hartsburg, let alone one that can take 12 riders and not cost a fortune, even the shuttle from the Ramada(where they were staying)would not come to Hartsburg to pick them up. They paid a local to take them to Jeff city where the hotel shuttle would then pick them up.

All I am saying is not to push so hard that everyone is exhausted and dreads riding the next day and I stress lots of fluid, chocolate milk or bananna's for cramps (calcium & potassium) just enjoy the ride and time together.

 
Missouri Joe from O'Fallon, MO on 05/28/2006 08:57 PM
I did 22 miles today (Sunday) in the Marthasville area between 11 am and 2 pm, it was tough in the heat and the last few miles were the toughest. Luck for me I was able to get a snack at the Peers Store so I didn't look too bedraggled as I pulled into Marthsaville.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 05/28/2006 09:10 PM
Ditto caution with the kids. Get them out and riding before the trail ride and make sure they

are physically up to it. And, make sure their bikes are up to it as well. Kiddie bikes with tiny

tires and heavy frames just aren't designed for distance riding. Lots of those kiddie bikes are

far heavier than adult bikes. Plus, I know of at least one adult rider this weekend who was

taken to the hospital via ambulance for heat related problems. It is so easy for grown ups

and more so for kids, to get dehydrated and lose too many electrolytes. People

underestimate the impact of heat...be careful out there!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/29/2006 09:09 PM
We just returned from a weekend ride on the Eastern end of the trail, and I thought it had a lot more dangerous road crossings than I remembered--probably because last time we did it the kids were on trail-a-bikes, and hence completely under our control. We always have a rule that they have to wait for us at road crossings, and this trip really emphasized that for me. The crossings are all indicated by gates across the trail and stop signs or yield signs, so they will know when they get to them.

 
Mom who rides with her daughters from Lee's Summit on 06/04/2006 12:41 PM
My DD's and I ride have ridden from McBaine to Jeff with an easy/lots of stops ride before. Stayed the night in Jeff. The Ramada will come get you and your bikes, and let you take the bikes right into your room. They also have a pool and a second run movie theatre.

I would recommmend this.


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