Best breakfasts on the Katy Trail?
- + My husband and I are going to be biking the trail this June with our daughter, who will be almost two then. We'll be taking an easy pace - about twenty to thirty miles a day - and staying at lots of ...
Discussion started 03/22/2012 09:15 PM by Jessica - 5 replies (last reply by Joey Los at 05/08/2012 11:06 AM)Jessica from Columbia, MO on 03/22/2012 09:15 PM
My husband and I are going to be biking the trail this June with our daughter, who will be almost two then. We'll be taking an easy pace - about twenty to thirty miles a day - and staying at lots of bed and breakfasts along the way.
So if I could, I'd pick out all of lodgings based on breakfast. We stayed at Meyer Hilltop Farm in McKittrick last summer and the breakfast there was AMAZING, but, alas, that particular place doesn't host children. At any rate, if I could have a breakfast like that every morning for ten days I'd be in heaven.
Which bed and breakfasts on the Katy Trail live up best to the "breakfast" part of their name?
Pam O from Independence on 03/23/2012 07:47 AM
We loved the breakfasts at the Cliff Manor in Jeff City and The Doll House in Rhineland when we did a two day ride.
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 03/23/2012 01:39 PM
The breakfast was fantastic at the High Street Victorian B&B in Boonville.
Anonymous on 03/23/2012 04:50 PM
This is the first time I've heard about the breakfasts at The Doll House. We'll have try them out.
Pam O from Independence on 03/24/2012 08:32 AM
Have Amanda fix her stuffed French Toast when you stay at the Doll House.
Joey Los from McKittrick, Mo on 05/08/2012 11:06 AM
Joey's Bird House in McKittrick welcomes children. It's right on the trail with a fully stocked breakfast (and enough for trail snacks) left in the refrigerator for you to warm up yourselves or I will come and prepare a breakfast for you. You have the whole place to yourself. Joey
Dormitory at School House B + B in Rocheport
- + We loved the dormitory accommodations. They are truly a first-class operation with new, scrupulously clean, and beautifully landscaped quarters. They even provide a great laundry facility in the bui...
Discussion started 05/07/2012 07:27 PM by Ellen and Joe - 0 repliesEllen and Joe from Hill Country of Texas on 05/07/2012 07:27 PM
We loved the dormitory accommodations. They are truly a first-class operation with new, scrupulously clean, and beautifully landscaped quarters. They even provide a great laundry facility in the building. Cold drinks and simple breakfast foods were provided in the fridge in our room, along with tea and coffee. We would highly recommend the Schoolhouse Dormitory.
What is the proper bike/horse etiquette?
- + What is the proper trail etiquette when the trail is being shared by a bicyclist and an equestrian rider? Should the cyclist pull to the side and stop and wait for an approaching horse and rider to ...
Discussion started 04/26/2012 07:53 PM by Jersey John - 4 replies (last reply by anonymous at 05/07/2012 04:26 PM)Jersey John from Jersey Shore on 04/26/2012 07:53 PM
What is the proper trail etiquette when the trail is being shared by a bicyclist and an equestrian rider? Should the cyclist pull to the side and stop and wait for an approaching horse and rider to pass? Should horses use the grass or shoulder? Should a cyclist ask permission to pass a horse w/rider? Should equestrian rider clean up horse “leavings”?
Trek on 04/26/2012 10:13 PM
From the DNR website: RIGHT-OF-WAY. When approaching oncoming users, always move to the right of the trail. Always pass on the left side, and make your intentions known by announcing your approach. Bicyclists should yield to pedestrians. Everyone should yield to horseback riders.
sharonbikes from Kansas City on 04/29/2012 01:31 PM
I have found that some horses are really skittish around bikes -- especially ones they can't see coming up behind them. If coming up to horses from behind, I usually announce my presence to the folks on horses, slow down and ask if the horses are okay with the bike. If approaching the horses, I will usually just stop on my bike and let the horses pass me ...again, asking the riders if the horses are okay with the bikes. I have had zero problems with horses on the Trail.
Jersey John from Jersey Shore on 05/03/2012 09:18 AM
Thanks Sharon - that makes good horese sense!
Your comments would be a good addition to the DNR website.
Anonymous from Mokane on 05/07/2012 04:26 PM
If horses aren't OK or are skittish with bikers/hikers on the trail, maybe those horses shouldN'T be on the Katy Trail
Bike Parking @ Capital Building & Gov. Mansion
- + Greetings!Riding the trail again this year and planning on making a stop at the Capital Building and Gov. Mansion. Does anyone know if there is good bike parking close by each?Thanks!
Discussion started 05/06/2012 10:45 AM by Peter Gibbons - 2 replies (last reply by Jim at 05/07/2012 07:41 AM)Peter Gibbons from Kansas City on 05/06/2012 10:45 AM
Greetings!
Riding the trail again this year and planning on making a stop at the Capital Building and Gov. Mansion. Does anyone know if there is good bike parking close by each?
Thanks!
Ray's Trip Planner on 05/06/2012 06:49 PM
Bike parking, you mean where you drive in an the attendant gives you a ticket and watches your bike? Not that fancy near the Capital lovy. How about the Amtrak station? But if you have a decent lock any secure place near the sites is good.
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/07/2012 07:41 AM
There is a bike rack at the Lewis and Clark monument located between the Capitol Building and the Governor's Mansion. The Capitol complex is a pretty low crime area but it wouldn't hurt to lock the bikes up.
- + Is the Raymond's Family Restaurant still open in Windsor? I am planning a short Sedalia to Calhoun ride with my wife and plan on staying at the Cruce's. I have ridden the trail from Machens to Roch...
Discussion started 04/25/2012 08:51 AM by Randy - 3 replies (last reply by anonymous at 05/06/2012 10:42 PM)Randy from Alton, IL on 04/25/2012 08:51 AM
Is the Raymond's Family Restaurant still open in Windsor? I am planning a short Sedalia to Calhoun ride with my wife and plan on staying at the Cruce's. I have ridden the trail from Machens to Rocheport. She went along for Hartsburg to Rocheport last year and we want to try another part this year. Comments on this section are welcomed and heeded. Thanks!
SalsaBoy on 04/25/2012 08:04 PM
Why not just keep going to Clinton? It's flat (maybe even a little downhill) so that way you can say you've done the whole thing.
Trek on 04/25/2012 08:33 PM
Or....click on Windsor in the map above, scroll down to get the phone number and give them a call to see if they are open.
Anonymous on 05/06/2012 10:42 PM
Yes they are still open.
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Dutzow Deli and Restaurant
- + Best homemade food around! Can't beat it for the price!!
Discussion started 05/06/2012 08:03 AM by Chris - 0 repliesChris from Augusta on 05/06/2012 08:03 AM
Best homemade food around! Can't beat it for the price!!
Dutzow Deli & Restaurant in Dutzow
- + waitress wad horrible are food was cold owners were rude will not go back!!
Discussion started 03/18/2012 09:40 PM - 3 replies (last reply by anonymous at 05/06/2012 08:00 AM)Anonymous on 03/18/2012 09:40 PM
waitress wad horrible are food was cold owners were rude will not go back!!
Tess from OFallon, MO on 03/24/2012 03:50 PM
Must have been an off day. I've been there several times and the food and people were alway great to me!
Angela D. from Marthasville on 04/16/2012 10:04 PM
Yeah they are often rude. Been that way for years now. It's almost like they feel inconvenienced by customers. Marthasville has a local bar and a pizza joint there small but happy.
Anonymous on 05/06/2012 08:00 AM
Just there last weekend and the food was excellent! Staff was extremely friendly. Not sure what you experienced but it just must have been an off day! Definitely worth the trip.
Katy Bike Rental in Defiance
- + The guy who helped us was very nice and friendly. They didn't have any tubes in stock that would fit my bike (700cc Schwinn Varsity, pretty common). He tried to sell me new tires, which took a while...
Discussion started 06/28/2011 09:56 PM by chernobylorbust - 2 replies (last reply by anonymous at 05/03/2012 09:14 AM)chernobylorbust from St. Louis on 06/28/2011 09:56 PM
The guy who helped us was very nice and friendly. They didn't have any tubes in stock that would fit my bike (700cc Schwinn Varsity, pretty common). He tried to sell me new tires, which took a while to install. They didn't fit the bike and wouldn't turn past the forks. This process took about an hour. I told my riding buddies to go on, and had to sprint to catch back up.
WB from St Louis on 05/03/2012 07:31 AM
How did you catch up without tires? I think there are parts you left out.
Anonymous on 05/03/2012 09:14 AM
Maybe he races cyclecross. Those guys are bada**
Mokane
- + riverrat it sounds as you dont want the bar to be open. I have lived here all my life and I was in the bar yesterday to have lunch and the bacon cheese burger was larger than cynthias however i have n...
Discussion started 05/01/2012 07:00 AM - 4 replies (last reply by Gary at 05/02/2012 11:43 PM)Anonymous from mokane on 05/01/2012 07:00 AM
riverrat it sounds as you dont want the bar to be open. I have lived here all my life and I was in the bar yesterday to have lunch and the bacon cheese burger was larger than cynthias however i have not had the fish but even then prices are about the same i think it raised about 25 cents but what hasnt raised look at gas and food they have to pass the cost on otherwise they wont stay in business at this rate. i would rather see the bar stay open then be closed again. if you dont like them then thats your opinion, but dont judge them for opening the bar back open. and yes I am a relative of Marks and I spoke with him there was a issue with the sale but not on the new owners part it was with paper work with the bar. so know your facts before you start being hateful
Anonymous on 05/01/2012 07:58 AM
You all are not hearing him!
THEY CUT THE FISH IN HALF!!!!
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/02/2012 02:06 PM
Yummmmmmmmm.......I'll take the half with the head.
Another Anonymous on 05/02/2012 05:54 PM
I believe this is a Katy trail bike forum and not a personal vendetta facebook or tweet social network. If you have a concern or disagreement with the owners speak directly to them and not drag people who may not be involved (or care) about your petty quibble. Grow up.
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 05/02/2012 11:43 PM
Slap that whole catfish on a plate and call it Sushi. Dem city folks will pay triple the amount of a half fish, I gaaaraaantee, whew boy!
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Some pics near Weldon Springs
- + Posted some pics near Weldon Springs on my last blog entry on The Trail Back. Enjoy this beautiful spring weather on the trail.http://thetrailback.blogspot.com/2012/05/spring-on-katy-trail-43012.html
Discussion started 05/02/2012 10:37 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous from O'Fallon, MO on 05/02/2012 10:37 PM
Posted some pics near Weldon Springs on my last blog entry on The Trail Back. Enjoy this beautiful spring weather on the trail.
http://thetrailback.blogspot.com/2012/05/spring-on-katy-trail-43012.html
Another Great Mexican resturaunt in Sedalia
- + There is an outstanding Mexican place just off the trail in Sadalia just about a 1/2 mile past the visitors center on the left when heading west. It's a yellow building and tHe have big Tamale signs ...
Discussion started 05/02/2012 08:53 PM by Sean - 0 repliesSean from Mascutah Il on 05/02/2012 08:53 PM
There is an outstanding Mexican place just off the trail in Sadalia just about a 1/2 mile past the visitors center on the left when heading west. It's a yellow building and tHe have big Tamale signs hanging up out front, and are accross the street from the Caseys convenince store. They have awesome food, and will make just about anything for you, even if it's not on the menu. So good we hit them on our return trip. Sorry, I don't remember the name...
- + We are wanting to visit the Katy trail for the first time. Bringing our kids for a 3-4 day weekend and wanting to do about 100 miles. Have to keep the cost down, so we will be camping.Suggestions on w...
Discussion started 04/04/2012 09:22 PM - 6 replies (last reply by Sean Goode at 05/02/2012 08:41 PM)Anonymous from Lebanon MO on 04/04/2012 09:22 PM
We are wanting to visit the Katy trail for the first time. Bringing our kids for a 3-4 day weekend and wanting to do about 100 miles. Have to keep the cost down, so we will be camping.Suggestions on which stretch of trail to do? Recommendations for newbies?
Doug from Bluffton on 04/05/2012 09:47 AM
Although you have many other options the two I suggest would be to come up thru Jefferson city and come east to Bluffton and camp at Steamboat Junction for two nights, riding into Hermann one day and west along the river another day; then moving east to Klondike park and camping and riding that area. You could also camp at New Franklin and spend several days riding that area. Either of these choices would offer stores for supplies and towns to visit. If you would like more detailed information you can call me at The Rendleman Home and I'll be glad to offer help. Doug
Lisa from Belton, MO on 04/05/2012 10:04 AM
The city park in Hermann has camping and also a nice pool. Not sure what month you are planning to take your trip, but the kids might enjoy the pool after a ride on the Katy Trail. Hermann is just across the river from McKittrick and has a nice bike / pedestrian lane on the bridge. There is a grocery store right there at the bridge where you could buy provisions. Riding either direction on the trail from McKittrick would be a fun and interesting ride. Have Fun!
Anonymous from Lebanon MO on 04/13/2012 08:43 PM
Thanks. I'm sure once we do it for the first time, it will all make more sense. We don't live close enough to 'scout out' where all these places are and whT is available there. We are just going to jump right in and do it and have fun. We will know more for the next time, and meanwhile, thanks for the advice.
eht from Columbia, MO on 04/17/2012 06:53 PM
One of the most popular sections is around Rocheport, especially going east. Both Katfish Katy's and the campground at Franklin are options in that area.
andyM from Osage Beach, Mo. on 04/18/2012 06:40 AM
Suggest you make a recon of the trail/area before bringing children with you.
Sean Goode from Currently Mascutah Ill on 05/02/2012 08:41 PM
I just finished going east to west, then back over a 7 day period. The area between Sedalia and St Charles was nice. How far are you going in a day? Knowing that will help.
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Tebbets bar
- + Is the little bar/grill open in Tebbets across the street from the bunk house? I haven't been there in a couple years and it always seemed to be hit or miss if it was open.
Discussion started 04/12/2012 05:50 PM by John - 3 replies (last reply by Sean Goode at 05/02/2012 08:33 PM)John from Washington,MO on 04/12/2012 05:50 PM
Is the little bar/grill open in Tebbets across the street from the bunk house? I haven't been there in a couple years and it always seemed to be hit or miss if it was open.
Anon on 04/13/2012 04:09 PM
Still is. Could be open late on Wed and weekends during season. Will have to wait and see?
John from Washington on 04/19/2012 09:33 PM
I rode to St. Charles today and met a rider who had just completed the trail. He said he made it to Tebbetts just in time to get out of the rain for a couple days. He said it was open on Friday evening and not on Thursday. Maybe they do just open on weekends and occasionally the rest of the week.
Sean Goode from Currently Mascutah Ill on 05/02/2012 08:33 PM
I stayed at the Hostel 23 Apr, the bar was not open, but later in the evening the lights came on over there. We had already eaten, so we didn't bother checking them out.
Full Service Grocery Now Open in Marthasville!!
- + K & R Market is located at 15971 State Highway 47 on the west side of Marthasville MO. Full Deli, Meat Dept., Wines & Liquors, Produce, Soft Drinks & Energy Drinks offered. 636-433-2584 Open M-F 6am...
Discussion started 05/02/2012 06:58 PM by K & R Market - a full Service Grocery Store!! - 0 repliesK & R Market - a full Service Grocery Store!! from Marthasville MO on 05/02/2012 06:58 PM
K & R Market is located at 15971 State Highway 47 on the west side of Marthasville MO. Full Deli, Meat Dept., Wines & Liquors, Produce, Soft Drinks & Energy Drinks offered. 636-433-2584 Open M-F 6am-8pm Sat.7am-6pm Sun.8am-3pm
The fish.
- + I am afraid the world is coming to an end. I heard they cut the fish in half.
Discussion started 05/01/2012 03:36 PM - 2 replies (last reply by Jim at 05/02/2012 02:02 PM)Anonymous on 05/01/2012 03:36 PM
I am afraid the world is coming to an end. I heard they cut the fish in half.
Pam O from Independence on 05/01/2012 11:37 PM
On my what are we going to do? Ride on, just ride on.
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/02/2012 02:02 PM
I heard they did the same thing to the loaves......
Road bike OK on Katy Trail?
- + I have read and been told by various people that a road bike with skinny tires is OK for Katy Trail, or must use off-road bike. So which is it? I would like to do Tour de Corn on 6/23/12 and then ride...
Discussion started 04/18/2012 09:22 PM by Pfiske - 7 replies (last reply by Brett Dufur at 05/02/2012 09:29 AM)Pfiske from Orlando/Kansas City on 04/18/2012 09:22 PM
I have read and been told by various people that a road bike with skinny tires is OK for Katy Trail, or must use off-road bike. So which is it? I would like to do Tour de Corn on 6/23/12 and then ride Katy for a day or two on my way to KC but can only bring one type of bike. As a current flatlander living in FL, what stretch of Katy would be best for me (relatively flat but scenic)?
SalsaBoy on 04/18/2012 10:19 PM
This seems to be a common question, and an area of much debate. Look down at some of the posts, and you will find a wide variety of opinions. That said, I am a roadie who has gotten to where I don't particularly like road (700c x 23) tires even on the road, so I sure don't like them on a hard gravel path. The Katy has different degrees of hardness vs. looseness depending on location, time of year, rain, etc. As a rule, the further east you go, the harder the surface gets. So, can you ride "Road" tires anywhere on it? Yes. Do you want to? Not me, esp. if it is the western part (West of Booneville). Kevlar, puncture protection, etc. anywhere on the trail is a necesssity because the limestone has little "arrowheads" that work their way through your tire and give you flats. Most people like at least 28's, and I personally wouldn't ride it without at least 32's. Others will tell you that they ride with "Road" tires and have no problems. Good for them. That is not my experience. I do not think you need knobbie mountain bike tires, but I would pick a mountain bike with 1 1/2" wide slicks over a road bike with 23's anywhere on the trail. Others will disagree.
Pfiske from Orlando/Kansas City on 04/18/2012 10:28 PM
I appreciate your reply, SalsaBoy. I have been reading the posts and now know that east of Rocheport is flat and close to MO river. I just purchased an off-road bike with 1-1/2" tires and think this will be best for KT. I am thinking of using Amtrak to get to and fro. Happy riding.
Alphonso on 04/19/2012 02:09 PM
Well I'm touring thru on a touring bicycle and seen lots of road bikes out here. Nothing fast or supper but it's smooth. Except the wash outs from the rain. But something with at least 28c or bigger.
Mike from South of Clinton on 04/26/2012 09:48 PM
I will throw in my opinion. I have spent much time and money exploring this subject. In the end, I went with what I started with- Road bike with 700-23 tires. I tried going to 28's, noticed more resistance, and changed my gearing in a way that did not suit me. I have a hybrid bike with 700-35 tires, I stop every time I ride it on the trail and check to see if my brakes are dragging, they never are. I rode end to end with a aluminum frame, carbon fork and seat stay road bike with Continental Gatorskin 700-23 tires with 110 lbs of pressure. Did not have one problem. Rolls extremely easy, coasts great, can be rode fast if need be. Rode in the rain on the western end with no issue. I certainly could see signs where someone, sometime, was sinking in the trail very badly, not sure when that happens. I carried around 12 lbs of additional gear, made the trip in three days stopping fairly often to sight-see and eat at local restaurants. Really wouldn't change a thing. That said, my experience is just that, no warranty expressed or implied.
Anonymous on 04/27/2012 08:55 AM
It seems to me that there is lots of common sense in the responses here. The responses above certainly line up with my experiences on the KATY.
After lots of different experiments, I settled on 28s. They are hard case tires with great flat protection (as recommended above).
In addition, I have come to love to ride the KATY with a fixed gear bike. There is just such a rhythm about it...I love it.
Can't wait to go back. Lots of day rides planned and a 3 day Clinton to St. Charles on the books for June. Excited!
jason from wentzville on 04/28/2012 08:48 PM
Your fine, i have ridden the whole katy a couple times. used mountain bike with mountain, skinny road and slicks. some places have soft areas but most is hard packed. the only problem i have is
The dust and small rocks that ding frame.
Brett Dufur from Rocheport on 05/02/2012 09:29 AM
I've ridden the trail end to end with groups on everything from road bikes to hybrids and recumbents. You'll be OK on whatever you got - you'll just learn to take it slow if there's a washboard washout area, and you'll of course bring multiple extra tubes (no brainer). Stay away from trail edges that are softer, where skinny tires can cut in too much. Also - avoid "vines" at trail edges, which sometimes have thorns. After several days of heavy rain, skinny tires will cut into trail more deeply. But in middle of summer, with dry weather, it packs hard like cement. Have a great trip!
Rocheport's Katy Trail Bed & Breakfast Boxcar
- + Rocheport's Katy Trail Bed & Breakfast's Boxcar Guesthouse has been a big hit with bikers traveling in groups of 2-3 couples, as well as families with kids who love trains! Here's a quick youtube to c...
Discussion started 05/02/2012 09:14 AM by Brett Dufur - 0 repliesBrett Dufur from Rocheport on 05/02/2012 09:14 AM
Rocheport's Katy Trail Bed & Breakfast's Boxcar Guesthouse has been a big hit with bikers traveling in groups of 2-3 couples, as well as families with kids who love trains! Here's a quick youtube to check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eWR75-H4D4. You can see more photos of it at www.katytrailbb.com. See you on the Katy Trail in Rocheport!
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