Trail too wet with snow melt?
- + We plan to ride this afternoon. (Friday, 2/18) I wondered if it would be too wet on the trail. We are riding from St. Charles west about 10 miles and then back. Has anyone been out since all the sn...
Discussion started 02/18/2011 12:31 PM by StLouisrider - 2 replies (last reply by Blinker at 02/21/2011 09:21 PM)StLouisrider on 02/18/2011 12:31 PM
We plan to ride this afternoon. (Friday, 2/18) I wondered if it would be too wet on the trail. We are riding from St. Charles west about 10 miles and then back. Has anyone been out since all the snow melted?
bernardshakey from St. Louis on 02/19/2011 01:16 AM
Rode from mile marker 43 to mile marker 55 on a mountain bike this morning and didn't
encounter any problems.
Blinker on 02/21/2011 09:21 PM
As of Sunday 2/20 we covered the trail from Green Park to Defiance and it was solid with the exception of the area under the US40 bridge. The only minor problem was a lot of rutting from earlier bikers a little eager after the snow melt.
Geocaching
- + I get to Missouri each year and ride the trail from Clinton to St. Charles. Recently become interested in Geocaching. Wonder if any one has a comment on the caches,if any,that can be found on the trai...
Discussion started 02/05/2011 04:29 PM - 4 replies (last reply by anonymous at 02/21/2011 03:27 PM)Anonymous on 02/05/2011 04:29 PM
I get to Missouri each year and ride the trail from Clinton to St. Charles. Recently become interested in Geocaching. Wonder if any one has a comment on the caches,if any,that can be found on the trail.
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts, MO on 02/08/2011 09:44 PM
I think you may find this link helpful on finding caches:
http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=6c30be06-6771-4c36-bf8c-006fc7ad9bf6
Also be sure to follow the Missouri Parks rules on geocaching found here:
http://mostateparks.com/faq.htm
Michael Rodemeyer from Hartsburg on 02/15/2011 11:53 PM
A very nice man by the name of Bill Stein of Jefferson City has some experience with Geocaching in and around the KATY Trail and Hartsburg. You can contact Bill at Willst1772@aol.com At the very least you will encounter a very interesting parson.
Rob from Kansas City on 02/18/2011 10:14 PM
Caching along the trail itself is pretty sparse. If you zoom in enough on the map on geocaching.com the trail itself will show up as a line or dotted line (actual trail on satellite view), just follow it and you can see the ones that are close to or at the trailheads. There are not many though for as long as the trail is. Some cities like Sedalia have some but you are riding through town to get them, though riding through Sedalia is part of the trail.
What would be ideal is if virtual or earth caches were set up along the trail, that way there is no physical cache to maintain or turn up missing, people stop and take pictures and or collect information at interesting places along the trail rather than riding by. I have only collected a couple of caches along the trail. Happy Caching.
Anonymous on 02/21/2011 03:27 PM
Thanks so much for the very helpful replies.
Where to rent bikes?
- + Where can you rent bikes and baby carriers? Thanks!
Discussion started 02/18/2011 01:50 PM by Rentbikes - 1 reply (last reply by MidSouth at 02/21/2011 09:23 AM)Rentbikes from Warrenton on 02/18/2011 01:50 PM
Where can you rent bikes and baby carriers? Thanks!
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 02/21/2011 09:23 AM
Select 'Trip Planner' above, then select 'Bike Rentals', then click on 'Build my list' at the bottom. That will give you a list of the bike rental shops along the trail and contact information.
US - High Speed Rail Plans
- + I noticed the proposed high speed rail that was mentioned again today in the news is set to travel in the same area as the Katy. Does anyone know if the Katy is at risk of being re-possessed for this ...
Discussion started 02/08/2011 11:23 PM by Stephen - 2 replies (last reply by SteveK at 02/14/2011 09:30 PM)Stephen from Bowling Green, KY on 02/08/2011 11:23 PM
I noticed the proposed high speed rail that was mentioned again today in the news is set to travel in the same area as the Katy. Does anyone know if the Katy is at risk of being re-possessed for this purpose? I know CSX uses the Amtrak line on the other side of the river. A fast train can only go as fast as the train in front of it.
Trek on 02/09/2011 01:14 PM
That's a good question. I would imagine that most high speeders would require travel on the KC to St. Louis route that Amtrak follows today. I couldn't forsee a high speed need to diverst at Boonville heading towards Clinton.
SteveK from saint louis, MO on 02/14/2011 09:30 PM
The planned high speed rail that they are talking about now will follow the current Amtrak route. They would have to add capacity(ie. parrallel tracks) to accomodate high speed trains at many locations that are too congested right now to allow the high speed trains to pass other train traffic. They might also have some straighten some curves to attain the kind of speeds they are talking about. However, none of this will affect the Katy Trail corridor.
Kansas City Airport to Clinton
- + Any suggestions on how to get from the KC airport to Clinton ?
Somewhere on the site I saw a comment that it was "easy",but no further
details. I looked at Amtrak from Denver, to Sedalia, bu...
Discussion started 02/13/2011 03:13 PM by DkB - 1 reply (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 02/14/2011 09:12 AM)DkB from Littleton, CO on 02/13/2011 03:13 PM
Any suggestions on how to get from the KC airport to Clinton ?
Somewhere on the site I saw a comment that it was "easy",but no further
details. I looked at Amtrak from Denver, to Sedalia, but it would take
me two days plus an overnight in KC. I am starting to plan my trip for
May 2011, and open to ideas! Thanks in advanced.
db
Ray (webmaster) on 02/14/2011 09:12 AM
Here are a few past discussions that might help:
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=376
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=221
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=649
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=675
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=2416
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=1567
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=2831
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=3284
Trail conditions western end?
- + Anyone know if there is any section of the trail from Clinton to Rocheport that is ridable? Finally getting warm temps, but afraid the trail may be too soft from all the recent snow.
Discussion started 02/13/2011 12:07 PM by MAH - 1 reply (last reply by bikerstuff at 02/14/2011 03:29 AM)MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 02/13/2011 12:07 PM
Anyone know if there is any section of the trail from Clinton to Rocheport that is ridable? Finally getting warm temps, but afraid the trail may be too soft from all the recent snow.
bikerstuff from Saint Charles on 02/14/2011 03:29 AM
I don't think any section of the trail is ridable because it is still snow covered. I was walking the eastern end of the trail on Saturday, and there was about 2-5 inches of snow on the trail. Western end received even more snow.
Klondike Park (Augusta)/ RV ?
- + Is there somewhere in the park for us to park an RV for the night? We would not need hookups.
Discussion started 02/13/2011 12:07 PM by lcj - 2 replies (last reply by MidSouth at 02/13/2011 12:26 PM)lcj on 02/13/2011 12:07 PM
Is there somewhere in the park for us to park an RV for the night? We would not need hookups.
Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 02/13/2011 12:21 PM
Here is a link to the information you seek about Klondike park.
http://parks.sccmo.org/parks/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7&Itemid=20
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 02/13/2011 12:26 PM
According to the St. Charles park website: "No RV, trailer, or truck camping is allowed." Looks like tent camping only, or renting of the cabins.
Nane & Email change
- + We have changed our nane from Victory Shuttle to A + Victory Services LLC, DBA: A + Victory Shuttle & Taxi Service. Our new email address is victoryshuttle507@yahoo.com.
In addition we are now lo...
Discussion started 02/12/2011 11:27 PM by A + Victory Shuttle & Taxi - 0 repliesA + Victory Shuttle & Taxi from Green Ridge, Mo on 02/12/2011 11:27 PM
We have changed our nane from Victory Shuttle to A + Victory Services LLC, DBA: A + Victory Shuttle & Taxi Service. Our new email address is victoryshuttle507@yahoo.com.
In addition we are now located in Green Ridge, & we can offer a sleeping room for the tired & weary travelor.
We still offer services to all points of the trail.
Cheapest way to trail head
- + Were planing on doing the trail in late sept. and want to go west to east leaving our car in st charles what is the best and cheapest way to get to clinton. Also what type of weather should we expect ...
Discussion started 02/12/2011 01:17 PM by DB - 3 replies (last reply by A+ Victory Shuttle (Jerry) at 02/12/2011 10:28 PM)DB from spfld.ma on 02/12/2011 01:17 PM
Were planing on doing the trail in late sept. and want to go west to east leaving our car in st charles what is the best and cheapest way to get to clinton. Also what type of weather should we expect for the last 2 weeks of september?
Paulie from Knoxville on 02/12/2011 02:52 PM
I like Amtrak.
You can park at the trailhead in St. Charles, ride or shuttle yourself and your bike to Kirkwood Amtrak station. Then ride the train to Sedalia. Many people find Sedalia a good starting point. If you feel you must go to the very beginning it is only about 30 miles away by trail. You may be able to arrange a shuttle.
You can find camping in many towns along the trail and motels/BBs are priced reasonable. Just be sure to do your research.
The Plan a Ride feature above is a great tool.
As far as the weather, I think late Sept is a perfect time but the weather in MO can be crazy so prepare for anything.
Happy trails,
Paulie
A+ Victory Shuttle (Jerry) from Green Ridge, MO on 02/12/2011 10:28 PM
This is a reply to cheapest way to get from St. Charles to Clinton; We provide services from St. Charles to Clinton & Clinton to St, Charles. You can park your vehicle by the trail in St. Charles, & nthen ride the trail, call us & we can pick you or your group up & then take you to St. Charles to where your car is parked.
A+ Victory Shuttle (Jerry) from Green Ridge, MO on 02/12/2011 10:28 PM
This is a reply to cheapest way to get from St. Charles to Clinton; We provide services from St. Charles to Clinton & Clinton to St, Charles. You can park your vehicle by the trail in St. Charles, & nthen ride the trail, call us & we can pick you or your group up & then take you to St. Charles to where your car is parked.
Biking Kansas Trails
- + Has anybody checkout the trails in Kansas? KDOT has a biking trail guide with all the trails on it. Hopefully someday the Katy trail in Missouri and the Kansas trails will join.
Discussion started 02/09/2011 10:45 PM by Ann Mann - 1 reply (last reply by Anon at 02/11/2011 10:34 PM)Ann Mann from Waterville, Kansas on 02/09/2011 10:45 PM
Has anybody checkout the trails in Kansas? KDOT has a biking trail guide with all the trails on it. Hopefully someday the Katy trail in Missouri and the Kansas trails will join.
Anon on 02/11/2011 10:34 PM
Yeah. I've done the Prairie-Spirit (Ottowas-Iola; 51-miles) several times - a great trail. Have also done the Landon-Nature, the Shunga, and the Shawnee-Lake trails in Topeka. They're shorter trails at this point. The Landon will be great when completed (38-miles). Otherwise, seveal MB trails exist on the eastern-to mid side of the state along with the Flint Hills Rail Trail, not yet completed.
Recent snow
- + How are the trail conditions since the snow storm? Has anyone ventured out?
Discussion started 02/06/2011 07:52 PM by jon - 1 reply (last reply by Skyguy9999 at 02/07/2011 07:05 PM)jon from jefferson city on 02/06/2011 07:52 PM
How are the trail conditions since the snow storm? Has anyone ventured out?
Skyguy9999 on 02/07/2011 07:05 PM
I would say it's great if you're in to cross-country skiiing. Otherwise....
Katy Trail
- + An ice traction slip on device was lost and found on the Katy Trail 2.5.11. Call The Bike Stop Cafe to claim.
http://www.facebook.com/TrekWomen#!/photo.php?fbid=144402178952734&set=a.11878729151422...
Discussion started 02/06/2011 02:25 PM by Tony Caruso - 0 repliesTony Caruso from St. Charles on 02/06/2011 02:25 PM
An ice traction slip on device was lost and found on the Katy Trail 2.5.11. Call The Bike Stop Cafe to claim.
http://www.facebook.com/TrekWomen#!/photo.php?fbid=144402178952734&set=a.118787291514223.16880.112865152106437
Rocheport trail conditions for walking?
- + Am/was planning to meet some friends for a walk starting from the Rocheport trail head on Sunday Feb 6th. Has anyone been out there in the past day or two? Is the snow too deep for walking? Is the ...
Discussion started 02/03/2011 03:51 PM by kdkd - 1 reply (last reply by Annon at 02/03/2011 04:17 PM)kdkd from st. louis on 02/03/2011 03:51 PM
Am/was planning to meet some friends for a walk starting from the Rocheport trail head on Sunday Feb 6th. Has anyone been out there in the past day or two? Is the snow too deep for walking? Is the parking lot cleared? Thanks!!!
Annon on 02/03/2011 04:17 PM
Two feet of snow in Columbia just a few miles east. You should be okay in Rocheport.
No camping. Where to sleep, and how expensive will it be?
- + I hope to ride the full trail this spring, but I'm concerned about the
cost since apparently there's no camping allowed and riders are required
to rent guest houses/bed & breakfasts. Are there...
Discussion started 02/02/2011 04:37 PM by Brent - 4 replies (last reply by Chris at 02/03/2011 03:48 PM)Brent from Fort Walton Beach, FL on 02/02/2011 04:37 PM
I hope to ride the full trail this spring, but I'm concerned about the
cost since apparently there's no camping allowed and riders are required
to rent guest houses/bed & breakfasts. Are there ways around this? What
should I expect to spend if not?
Brent from Fort Walton Beach, FL on 02/02/2011 05:08 PM
Okay... I see now that there are primitive campsites along the trail.
Anon on 02/02/2011 06:36 PM
Yes..and community parks and baseball dugouts, too.
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 02/02/2011 06:57 PM
If you click on the Plan-A-Ride link above and select Camping it will show all available camping and milage from either end of the trail.
Chris from Centralia, IL on 02/03/2011 03:48 PM
I have done 200-400 mile trips on the Katy several times and I usually go cheep, camping or staying at the hostel in Tebbets ($5). I am not against spending $100 on a soft bed, but I usually reserve that for when my wife and kids are along.
There seems to be more places to camp on the western half of the trail. But if you do a little reserch and planning, you should be able to do the ride without shelling out much money.
Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
- + You must try the pretzel bread. Everything our group had was every good but the pretzel bread is killer.
Discussion started 02/03/2011 02:43 PM by Danny - 0 repliesDanny from Memphis, TN on 02/03/2011 02:43 PM
You must try the pretzel bread. Everything our group had was every good but the pretzel bread is killer.
Katy Trail
- + I am planning a thru-ride of the Katy in mid fall 2011 we will arrive in St Charles and shuttle to Clinton to begin our ride. How many hours to get to Clinton, is there long term parking at St. Charle...
Discussion started 01/30/2011 09:46 AM by Rick Hancock - 1 reply (last reply by Trek at 01/30/2011 12:47 PM)Rick Hancock from Grafton, Va on 01/30/2011 09:46 AM
I am planning a thru-ride of the Katy in mid fall 2011 we will arrive in St Charles and shuttle to Clinton to begin our ride. How many hours to get to Clinton, is there long term parking at St. Charles trailhead, how safe. I'm sure this info has been covered but I can't seem to find it. Thanks
Trek on 01/30/2011 12:47 PM
If you are going to pay someone to shuttle you to Clinton.....ask them
how long it takes them to get there and what their schedule is. That may
be a more accurate answer than the shot gun approach here. Or perhaps go
to Google maps and get directions....it will tell you driving distance
and estimated time.
Bike Swap Meet
- + Anyone been to the Bike Swap Meet in Collinsvile, IL before? Looks like something to do this weekend with the soggy trails and all.
Discussion started 01/27/2011 04:43 PM by MidSouth - 1 reply (last reply by Tony Caruso at 01/28/2011 01:35 AM)MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 01/27/2011 04:43 PM
Anyone been to the Bike Swap Meet in Collinsvile, IL before? Looks like something to do this weekend with the soggy trails and all.
Tony Caruso from St. Charles on 01/28/2011 01:35 AM
I have been to the swap meet a couple times. It is a great place to pick up some good deals on parts and bikes and chat about everything bike related. Stop by my booth for free coffee and snack samples.
Tony Caruso
The Bike Stop Cafe
Mount Pleasant Winery (Augusta)
- + This was a nice place when the Lucien Dressel family ran it 15 years ago, very charming, friendly, and they treated everyone with respect and fairness. But when the new owners took over they turned it...
Discussion started 01/27/2011 07:34 PM by Old timer - 1 reply (last reply by JJ at 01/27/2011 10:00 PM)Old timer from St. Louis on 01/27/2011 07:34 PM
This was a nice place when the Lucien Dressel family ran it 15 years ago, very charming, friendly, and they treated everyone with respect and fairness. But when the new owners took over they turned it into a clip joint where their only interest was to squeeze the last dime out of everyone. Shame on them. If pay toilets weren't illegal, they'd have them too.
JJ from Creve Coeur on 01/27/2011 10:00 PM
I stopped going there when they started charging for wine tasting. Would be different if this was Napa and Napa quality wines, but it is not. Try Montelle winery instead. Stone Hill is Hermann is my favorite winery in Missouri.
Current trail conditions
- + Looking for any reports on current trail conditions.
A small group of us
Are riding from hermann to st Louis on 1/30
I know it is going to warm a bit towards fri but not
sure this wil...
Discussion started 01/24/2011 02:15 PM by Kris - 4 replies (last reply by Trek at 01/27/2011 10:34 AM)Kris from St Louis on 01/24/2011 02:15 PM
Looking for any reports on current trail conditions.
A small group of us
Are riding from hermann to st Louis on 1/30
I know it is going to warm a bit towards fri but not
sure this will be enough to clear the trails.
Appreciate any help. Thanks.
merkin4 on 01/24/2011 07:02 PM
I'm a regular rider, and I work near the Weldon Spring trailhead. That stretch has heavy tree cover, so combined with the eight inches of snow on the ground right now, I don't think you'll be able to navigate through there.
If you'd like, I can do a physical check at Weldon Spring later this week.
Kris on 01/26/2011 01:37 PM
If your going to be out there that would be great! It looks like thurs - sun are going to
be close to forty. Hoping it will clear the trail. Thanks again!
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts, MO on 01/27/2011 02:54 AM
Be prepared for some very soft trail surfaces due to the melting snow soaking under the trail surface, freezing at night and melting again the next day. It's like riding through quick sand.
Trek on 01/27/2011 10:34 AM
That quick sandy grit can be pretty abrasive on chains, gears, wheel rims, etc.