Running the trail
-  + I am planning on running the trail this summer. I am looking to take it relatively slow (20-30 miles per day.) Has anyone done this before? I know this is a bicycling website but could not find any...
Discussion started 02/08/2011 07:53 PM by Tim - 5 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:51 AM)Tim from Kansas City on 02/08/2011 07:53 PM
I am planning on running the trail this summer. I am looking to take it relatively slow (20-30 miles per day.) Has anyone done this before? I know this is a bicycling website but could not find any other resources about running the trail.
I am also looking to spend as little money as possible. My brother is going to ride a bike next to me and carry supplies. We are going to try to camp out as often as possible. I was wondering if the campgrounds have showers available. Thanks for the advice.
Skyguy9999 on 02/08/2011 08:47 PM
FWIW, someone mentioned doing just that in the near future.
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=3656¬efmt=1&sortby=0&pg=2
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 02/09/2011 11:52 AM
You can click on 'Plan a Ride' above and then select 'Campgrounds'. That will give you a list of all the camping areas along the trail. You can select them one by one and read what other have had to say about them. I believe most of the campgrounds have shower facilities other than the conservation areas and city parks.
Anonymous on 02/09/2011 12:11 PM
A couple of guys ran across Missouri in 2009. Their pathway included the Katy. They pushed a large-wheel stroller for their supplies.
TopShelf on 02/10/2011 04:30 PM
You're only planning to run 20-30 miles a day? That's barely a marathon every day for 10 consecutive days. You are certainly taking a leisurely pace.
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:51 AM
For the most part the trail surface will be fine for running. There are some sections east of Jeff City (as of last fall) that were a bit rough so be careful there). Doing 20 - 30 miles a day will require some good planning to make sure you end up somewhere that you can camp - technically the "park" closes at sundown but my experience is that is not strictly enforced.
Temporary Katy Trail closure at Rocheport
-  + Due to construction on the Moniteau Creek Bridge in Rocheport, the Katy Trail is closed from the Rocheport Trailhead at Milepost 178.3 to Davisdale Conservation Area at Milepost 182.2. This section is...
Discussion started 01/12/2011 04:39 PM by Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator - 6 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:45 AM)Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator on 01/12/2011 04:39 PM
Due to construction on the Moniteau Creek Bridge in Rocheport, the Katy Trail is closed from the Rocheport Trailhead at Milepost 178.3 to Davisdale Conservation Area at Milepost 182.2. This section is anticipated to re-open mid-May, 2011.
During construction, trail users are being rerouted to Hwy. 40, so will need to use caution. Signs will direct trail users to follow the below detour:
Traveling west:
From the Rocheport Trailhead, follow Katy Trail to Central Street (.2 mile). Turn right onto Central Street. Central Street becomes Hwy. 240 Spur (.1 mile). Take Hwy. 240 Spur to Hwy. 40 (1.0 mile). Turn left onto Hwy. 40. Take Hwy. 40 to the Davisdale Conservation Area parking lot (3.2 miles). Enter Katy Trail from the far side of the parking lot. Turn left out of the parking lot onto Katy Trail.
Traveling east:
From the New Franklin Trailhead, follow the Katy Trail to the Davisdale Conservation Area parking lot (6.0 miles). Turn right into the parking lot. Turn left onto Hwy. 40. Take Hwy. 40 to Hwy. 240 Spur (3.2 miles). Turn right onto Hwy. 240 Spur. At Rocheport, Hwy. 240 Spur becomes Central Street (.1 mile). Take Central Street to Katy Trail (.2 mile). Turn left onto Katy Trail.
While following the detour, trail users should use caution since they may experience travel over city streets and highways; motor vehicles traveling at high speeds; uneven or loose gravel on road surfaces; and narrow roads and lanes.
We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your paitence while the bridge is being replaced. For an update, call 573-449-7402 or visit http://www.mostateparks.com/katytrail/conditions.htm.
Trek on 01/13/2011 11:13 AM
Thanks DNR.....this has been needing fixed for some time now. It's good to see our tax dollars at work!
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 01/13/2011 06:13 PM
That is a pretty good hill from either directions on HWY 40 if you are only used to the flat KATY. We had to take that detour last year due to the flooding west of Rocheport...I was pulling a BOB trailer and I was pooped!
School House B+B Inn from Rocheport on 02/16/2011 08:28 PM
As a courtesy to School House guests, if you do not want to ride on the highway detour, we can provide a shuttle for you and your bike from the Davisdale Conservation Area parking lot to the School House in Rocheport or vice versa. Please mention this when booking and let us know if you wish to take advantage of our shuttle service and if so which direction (east or west) you are traveling to get to Rocheport. In our response to your reservation we will provide contact information for pick up time arrangements on the day of your arrival at the School House. Availability and reservations at www.schoolhousebb.com.
Trek on 02/17/2011 12:45 AM
Now that's just plain old good service!
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 02/17/2011 04:15 PM
Love to see maintenance being done on the trail, but sure hope this is completed before the Pedalers Jamboree over Memorial Day weekend. That detour will be tough with the little ones.
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:45 AM
Bummer - that is my training route- Boonville to Rocheport and south, then back. However, it will be great to have the bridge upgraded.
Best time to ride in the fall
-  + My husband and I are planning a trip in the fall to ride the Katy Trail. What is the peak fall time and the best route to take for scenic riding? Planning a 3 night trip, riding probably 30 miles da...
Discussion started 02/27/2011 04:59 PM by Gail Manion - 3 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:36 AM)Gail Manion from Conway, AR on 02/27/2011 04:59 PM
My husband and I are planning a trip in the fall to ride the Katy Trail. What is the peak fall time and the best route to take for scenic riding? Planning a 3 night trip, riding probably 30 miles daily. We are fairly new riders.
Trek on 02/28/2011 12:51 PM
Peak fall color is tracked on the MO Department of Conservation website. Roughly around the middle of October....but is difficult to predict because of the many variables. It doesn't usually coincide with my weekend time off. We like the ride between Sedalia and North Jefferson....Portland to Hermann is good too.
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 03/01/2011 09:52 AM
We did a fall trip last Oct 16-17. I think we were about a week early for peak, but many factors determine when peak will be. We started in Hartsburg and rode to Boonville, stayed at the High Street Victorian B&B and rode back the next day. About 39 miles each way. A wonderful trip none the less!
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:36 AM
Generally the second to third week of October is prime. I took some nice photos around the 15th of October last fall. The section from Sedalia to Boonville, and Rocheport to Jefferson City would be my choice.
Most scenic parts
-  + My wife and I plan a two day ride in the spring, 75 miles more or less, then shuttle back to starting point. If I'm reading this site correctly, shuttle services are lacking somewhat in the middle th...
Discussion started 02/26/2011 12:54 PM by Lee - 2 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:33 AM)Lee from Norman, OK on 02/26/2011 12:54 PM
My wife and I plan a two day ride in the spring, 75 miles more or less, then shuttle back to starting point. If I'm reading this site correctly, shuttle services are lacking somewhat in the middle third of the trail. We are looking for one of the more scenic stretches, preferably one with good photography potential, but one that also has convenient shuttling. Are we asking too much? Should we just shut up and pedal, it’s all beautiful?
Robin White on 03/02/2011 09:31 AM
Hi Lee. This is Robin from Katy Bike Rental. Our shop is located in Defiance, Mo but we offer shuttle service along the entire trail. In fact,we are already booking several shuttles in your desired area for Spring. Please feel free to give us a call directly. We would love to help you plan a nice, Spring ride along the trail. We can be reached at 636.987.2673 or 314.578.7300 Thanks & we look forward to hearing from you!
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:33 AM
I most enjoy the section between Jefferson City and Rocheport, and Treloar and Bluffton.. I have not ridden the full length in the spring, just fall, so blooming spring flowers and trees could make some difference.
Is the ride safe for families
-  + I am single mom who would like to take her kids the full lengh of the trail from Clinton to St Charles. We would like to make this a "roughing" it experience meaning camping and picnics. We would li...
Discussion started 03/03/2011 02:20 PM by Family riders - 8 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:27 AM)Family riders from Sedalia on 03/03/2011 02:20 PM
I am single mom who would like to take her kids the full lengh of the trail from Clinton to St Charles. We would like to make this a "roughing" it experience meaning camping and picnics. We would like to go around May - June. My children are in their preteens. Just wanting to get others comments on if this is safe. Thanks
Old Geezer Scout from Jefferson City, Mo. on 03/03/2011 08:48 PM
I believe it would be a safe and fun adventure, with appropriate parental supervision. Exercise the usual cautions in towns, at road crossings and along the river, and you should have no problems. I guess the first caution is to understand that it will be quite the undertaking to do the entire trail. Boy Scout motto "BE PREPARED", especially if "roughing it".
As for personal safety or security on the trail and camping at camp grounds, I have never seen any indication that it is not safe. That is my personal experience, others may think differently but I have not heard of any problems at all. I have spent quite a bit of time on the Katy Trail, but of course it is a matter for your comfort level, a concern is certainly understandable.
You have come to the right place to get the information you need to make it a good trip, hopefully others will have some input. Good luck.
Terry from Festus on 03/03/2011 09:56 PM
The ride should be safe and fun. I would suggest considering the DNR ride in June for first time adventurers.
Anonymous on 03/03/2011 11:30 PM
I think it would be safe if everyone is prepared with a bit of training so that they are attentive to their surroundings including other cyclists, the concept of staying to the right, announcing when they are passing other riders, not panicking and weaving around the trail when other rides approach them from either the front or the rear, etc. Just basic bike handling and courtesy stuff.
I've seen packs of scouts, etc. that were (in my opinion) not prepared to be riding in a setting where they might encounter other folks.
Sounds like a great adventure. Enjoy!!
Skyguy9999 on 03/04/2011 01:01 AM
What the others have said is very good. But I will add that the training is important for a good enjoyable time. Make sure each of you can handle the amount of distance and time per day required - this will require some ride time. Make sure you keep the preteens (you didn't say their ages) in mind in this training period and the ride time.
Make sure you do some planning along the way as to how far you need to go and where you can stay. You will also need to manage supplies, such as food and water both for storage and for needs in riding. This will become evident as you prove yourself for longer distances.
In addition to what the last post says, you'll need to make sure everyone is instructed on proper safe street riding. I doubt you'll be able to carry 5-7 days (the usual time most tourist/neophyte riders are on the trail going from end-to-end) worth of food and water for your group's needs without restocking and the need may come to go off the trail to find those things (and campgrounds), or other needs that might arise on your trip. And since you wouldn't want to leave the preteens unsupervised, they'll need to know how and you'll need to be comfortable that they know.
I suggest the DNR ride as well, if it fits what you have in mind for the time you have in mind. Also, consider looking for fun things for the preteens to do to get/keep them invested in the idea.
Have fun! It should be very safe as long as proper preparations are in place (and those are the same for basically everyone).
If you have any more questions about this, by all means ask!
Skyguy9999 on 03/04/2011 01:03 AM
Oh and I forgot, too. Part of that preparation will be basic bike maintenance. That mostly means learning how to fix flats. Be sure to have that knowledge along with the tools for it when you go.
David from Kansas City on 03/04/2011 10:20 AM
I would say the trail is very safe aside from occasional stray dog that might be in a bad mood..a good squirt from the water bottle usually takes care of that.
You should consider the upcoming DNR ride June 20-24. Very organized and would be a great experience for your family. Last year there was a family that had a set of 6 year old twins and an 8 year old that did the ride.
Anonymous on 03/04/2011 11:09 AM
You might have a friend drop you off at the Clinton trailhead, and then pick you up in St Charles for returning home.
But if you drive yourselves to the trailhead, you might park your vehicle at the Community Center after unloading. It's located about 2-blocks south of the trailhead. It's well-lit, and patrolled. You can leave your basic information at the front desk inside.
You can also shuttle back to Sedalia via the Defiance bike shop if desired?
Sounds like you're planning a great trip that others have done, too, safely. Do use common sense on the trail while enjoying its many sights.
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:27 AM
I think safety will be ok at that time of year. My concern would be carrying and planning for the supplies and camping equipment. Suggest a pull behind trailer to carry. When I rode the trail last fall I do not recall seeing very many campgrounds that would have full facilities. Good luck - will be a great experience with proper planning.
trail surface
-  + I am planning to ride the Katy trail in late March. I have not been able to find much information on the surface of the trail. Are road bikes approprite or do I need a mountain bike? Thank you.
Discussion started 03/03/2011 04:02 PM by bentley - 4 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:21 AM)bentley from Texas on 03/03/2011 04:02 PM
I am planning to ride the Katy trail in late March. I have not been able to find much information on the surface of the trail. Are road bikes approprite or do I need a mountain bike? Thank you.
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 03/03/2011 07:54 PM
A lot of answers to basic questions can be found under the "Katy Trail Home" link above, then click on the FAQ link.
Skyguy9999 on 03/04/2011 01:10 AM
The Katy is a fine limestone gravel surface. Given that, most bikes work well if the conditions are good. Most I've run into tend to prefer hybrid street tread, but road bikes will work well too as long as you're careful where the trail meets the road.
The only bad thing to be aware about for mountain bike tread is that the gravel can tend to stick in between the grooves and cause problems.
Hope that helps.
Don from Plainfield, IL on 03/04/2011 12:00 PM
I rode it last year the end of March (had my wife and dog as SAG), west to east and it was unseasonanble warm, 60-70's. However most years it's cooler 40-50's, trail surface somewhat softer from the spring thaw, some flooding and branches down. Winds can be 10-20 mile gusts. Also nothing is really open along the trail, toilets and water until early April? I had a hybrid bike with 700x32 Bontager triple case tires and most surfaces were fairly hard except between Clinton and Sedalia. It won't be a problem and if it is, that's part of the fun.
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:21 AM
Just make sure your tires are in good condition. Some spots can be a bit rough on tires.
First Timer
-  + This coming may I will be 60 years old.
I am bikeing short distances this fall and winter to ge ready to do the entire Katy Trail with a friend.
There will be no rush for us.We like to smell the...
Discussion started 11/21/2010 06:14 PM by OklahomaJack - 12 replies (last reply by zgeezer at 03/06/2011 01:20 AM)OklahomaJack from Oklahoma City on 11/21/2010 06:14 PM
This coming may I will be 60 years old.
I am bikeing short distances this fall and winter to ge ready to do the entire Katy Trail with a friend.
There will be no rush for us.We like to smell the Roses and tour towns
How many miles a day should I plan on? What is the best bike for the trails?
I have 2 diffrent style bikes, mountain bike and a Board walk with no gears and with balloon tires.
We plan to stay at B&B's
I do NOT have strong legs, but I could always bike.I had polio as a kid.
This is a Quest for me, I have a strong heart and it's on my bucket list.
Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 11/21/2010 10:29 PM
Hello Jack, the mountain bike should do well on the trail. Some people ride mountain bikes, some hybrids and some touring bikes. As for the miles per day, that just depends on how much you are used to riding. It seems that many people plan on about 40 miles a day. That is what I planned my first multi-day trip around and it worked out pretty well. The trail is flat for the most part so it is fairly easy to maintain a steady speed of 9 or 10 miles an hour, again that depends on what you are used to.
You have come to the right place to find out most of what you need to know about riding the Katy Trail. I think others will chime in on your questions. It will be fun, May is a good time to be out on the trail, enjoy yourself.
Anonymous on 11/21/2010 10:32 PM
Just turned 61, did most of trail this year. Avg miles for time to browse et al, I say plan
40-50 a day. Best bike is a hybrid with larger wheels - 700s.
Rhona Lococo from St Charles Mo on 11/22/2010 08:32 PM
if you need help with shuttle or overnight accomodations call 636-946-0619 and ask for Rhona (Lococo House III)
Anonymous on 11/23/2010 11:44 AM
I am 67, ride a Hybrid, like to start at Clinton late afternoon pedal into Sedalia that evening, Take bike into Motel. Ride from Sedalia to Hartsburg next day,stay in B&B, Hartsburg to Hermann following day and into St Charles next day. Knocking that 40 miles off the first day gives you a ride of little less than 200 for the 3 days which gives you a chance to see and enjoy the trail. Take Train back to Sedalia and bike to Car in Clinton... Never a bad experience on the trail...
Anon on 11/23/2010 11:59 AM
Together with the above advice, you'll be okay with your MB. A cyclocross, mountain bike, or hybrid with good tires works well on the trail. Carry an extra tube or two to be sure, and maybe a good boot or spare tire as well. Enjoy.
OklahomaJack from Oklahoma City on 11/26/2010 03:48 PM
Thank You all!
I am so excited.
I am planning to start my trip May 23rd 2011.I will be going west to east.
Hope I meet and greet some of you there.
Jack
John T from Palmyra, MO on 12/21/2010 05:14 PM
Try the DNR ride the third week in June. You are treated like ROYALTY. This year will be from west to east, I think. ALWAYS, a GREAT RIDE with REALLY GOOD people.
MAH on 12/22/2010 12:39 PM
I agree with checking out the DNR ride. It would be a good way to feel the trail out and then the next year go it alone! I've done both ways (alone and DNR) and each have a lot to offer.
Good thing re the DNR ride...they carry all your gear (great if you're camping), provide breakfast and supper, sag support every 10-12 miles, and if for some reason you've goofed off too long or you don't feel like the full days' ride, they'll load you and your bike up and take you into camp. It's a bit more expensive if you do the B&B/motel as you pay for your own lodging and the shuttle from the DNR camp to your lodging. We've always met many interesting people whether doing it alone or with the DNR. Here's the link from this past year's ride if you're interested http://mostateparks.com/katytrail/2010ride.htm
How ever you decide...you will have a blast. Just don't plan too many miles for each day....build in enough goof off time to make it fun.
maxine from sedalia on 12/22/2010 01:29 PM
We would love to have you stay with us in Sedalia. Happy biking. Maxine "Maxine's Rooms for Rent".
jd from gkc on 12/22/2010 01:56 PM
The suggested 40 plus-or-minus miles a day of actual riding could be about right for vacationers on the trail. Enjoy.
Terry H. from Kansas City, mo. on 03/04/2011 04:49 PM
I will be 65 in May and am also a first timer !
The DNR Ride in June 2011 is well organized and would be a good choice; sign up is next week. That is what I am planning. My bike will be a
mountain bike that I inherited from my son who
lives in Oklahoma City. It has less than 20 miles on it; he left it here when he moved to your town.
A good piece of reading material is The Katy Trail Guidebook by Brett Doufer - lots of great options.
zgeezer on 03/06/2011 01:20 AM
I am 61, rode the trail this past November, East to West (West to East is much better). Rode it in three days, which with head winds all three days made it kind of tough. Next time I will do the West to East version, and allow 4 - 5 days. Rode a hybrid bike, and it worked great. If one of your riding days will be Monday, some of the restaurants/bars will be closed, so plan accordingly. If you train by riding a few 25 - 40 mile rides ahead of time you should do fine.
KATY LInes and Personnel
-  + This is an excellent site. Are there others referencing the Kansas and Texas extensions? Also, can any history be researched relevant to personnel during the pre and post WWII.
Discussion started 03/05/2011 12:01 PM by Roy Ramirez - 0 repliesRoy Ramirez from Oklahoma City on 03/05/2011 12:01 PM
This is an excellent site. Are there others referencing the Kansas and Texas extensions? Also, can any history be researched relevant to personnel during the pre and post WWII.