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Type of bike
EB from O'Fallon on 04/03/2006 09:35 AM
Is there any kind of bike that won't work on the trail/parts of the trail? I can't tell if I would need a mountain bike, or what will work. Don't want to get flat!

Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 04/04/2006 08:52 AM
I once saw a gentleman do the G.A.S.P. (Greater Austin to Shiner Pedal & 90+ miles), on a BMX with an empty child trailer. Odd, but it was done and thus any human powered conveyance "can" work...just may not be the most efficient. A mountain frame will work fine, and to prevent, (not exclude) flats I would recommend a heavy tire with Slime Liners and that will get you ahead of the game. Unless you're on "airless" tires" there is no absolute prevention of flats. whatever you do enjoy the trail, be safe. Regards.....Mark of the Dalton Boys

sbikes from KCMO on 04/04/2006 09:19 AM
The only bike I wouldn't take on the trail would be a road bike with skinny road bike tires. I

ride a mountain bike frame that I have put relatively narrow tires (panaracer messenger) that

have kevlar sidewalls. I have had one flat in years of riding the trail. A hybrid would be fine,

a mountain bike is fine, I would just never take my road bike out. Most of the trail is small

rock, but every once in a while there is some mushy parts and the trail as you get nearer to

Clinton is larger rock and closer to St. Louis is more like pavement. Plus, it is very dusty. I

think a mountain bike frame is built better to withstand the bumps and jostles along the

trailway. But, do pack a few spare tubes and a pump and make sure you know how to change

your own tires.

Bryan from Springdale, AR on 04/11/2006 05:16 PM
I've read lots of comments on lots of websites and several books on the Katy and it seems that almost any bike will work. I've ridden pieces of the trail, but not all of it. I've seen folks out on hybrids, mountain bikes (that's what I use for everything), recumbents, road bikes, even saw an EZ-3 trike once. I do agree with the other folks though on tires. You'll have a better time with the heavier, wider tires like those typically found on mountain bikes. Most of the trail is paved with "pug", a finely chopped limestone. When its dry, its pretty dusty, when it's wet, it can be mushy in places. The narrow tires will sink deeper in the soft spots. There is a thorny vine that grows along the trail in places too. The knobby tread patterns will hold you up above most of the thorns...most of the time. Not always. Carry flat fixing tools and a pump.

Other than that, bring what ever you need to be comfortable, some sunscreen, a camera and have a good ride!

TRinJboro from Jonesboro, AR on 04/13/2006 11:21 AM
I've ridden a mountain bike, hybrid and road bike on the KATY. By far the hybrid works the best. The mountain bike also works well, but most have knobby tires that you don't really need on the KATY and they tend to cause your speed to be reduced. Road bikes work fine as long as the trail is dry, but if you get a rain the narrow tires sink badly. So my two cents is, use a hybrid.

Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 04/13/2006 11:42 AM
Agreed with TR....I ride a hybrid....it works fine. Bigger knobby tires and narrow street tires (when the trail is soft) equate to more rolling resistance....more work involved for a what should be a pleasant ride.

No one WANTS to get a flat....always take a spare tube and know how to use it.....but all this talk about flats is hype as far as I'm concerned. I've yet to have a flat riding any rail-to-trail path.

dale nimmo from springfield missouri on 04/13/2006 01:09 PM
i rode the trail round trip on a la monde road bike with 28mm tires

never had a problem but i was simply LUCKY! the trail is haphazardly strewn with ruts due to shifting of the trail, settling, and rainouts, etc etc. they are deadly to any kind of bike or tire width, watch out for them. But don't let that stop you from enjoy the trail. it's GREAT!

bryan from Springdale, AR on 04/14/2006 06:39 PM
Trek Biker,

I'm very happy for you to have had such good luck with your tires. I too have had pretty good luck, having had only one flat in the last 5 years. That was caused by a roofing nail of all things, that I picked up in my back tire (while riding my mt. bike on a city street). By the same token, I've also only had 1 flat on my truck in about the same amount of time. All of this is due largely to maintaining good quality tires on both vehicles, and a portion of just plain good luck. My commute to work is more than 30 miles round trip, some of it over some nasty gravel roads. Inspite of all that, I still carry spares and tools appropriate to change or repair as needed. It won't be "hype" as you put it when you're 20 miles from home and have no way to fix it.

Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 04/14/2006 08:42 PM
I always carry a spare, tools, and a pump. Thats why I said "No one WANTS to get a flat....always take a spare tube and know how to use it." Traveling prepared takes the worry off the radar screen and allows for a pleasant ride!

sharron sussman from Julian California on 04/18/2006 02:19 PM
I'm planning to ride the trail west-to-east May 3-10 on my Bike Friday NWT with little (20") Schwalbe tires - high-pressure but not too narrow, think they're about 1-3/4". Will of course carry a pump, patch kits and spare tubes for both bike and trailer (12" diameter) tires. But the Friday wheels will accommodate low-pressure kiddie-bike tires you can pick up most everywhere if the Schwalbes aren't working well on the trail.

I too have had pretty good luck vis-a-vis flats. Only had simultaneous front-and-rear deflations once, in a blinding downpour on the Oregon Coast!

sbikes from KCMO on 04/18/2006 07:24 PM
Pack the phone number of Hartsburg Cycle Depot (573-657-9599) just in case. They are a

full serve bike shop, unlike most of the bike shops along the trail which cater more the

rentals. The Cycle Depot has a certified mechanic on staff and is open year round.

You should be fine with those tires. Are they kevlar belted? Sometimes there are sharp

pointy things on the trail!

trey from branson, mo on 04/17/2006 10:31 PM
I kinda plan to do the whole KATY trail on spring break of 07. it's gonna be a stretch, but i believe i can do it. what do you do about fresh water. i have a camelback, but i drink a lot of water.

dale nimmo from springfield missouri on 04/18/2006 11:18 AM
most ( but not all) of the trail heads have a water source.

The DNR is working on it but not too terribly quickly.

The TH's that do have a water source is well water. Not refrigerated (aren't we a spoiled bunch? hahah)

My suggestion to you is to fill and refill EVERY chance you get.

I rode the trail round trip last year and figured that out really fast!

need any more info, contact me at dsnimmo@gmail.com

have fun!

TRinJboro from Jonesboro, AR on 04/18/2006 01:16 PM
Depending on the time of the year, if it's early spring, even some of the TH water sources are turned off. Most of the businesses in the towns however will let you fill up your water bottles.

Nails on 04/18/2006 02:32 PM
Note that Camelback bladders (and their packs) are available in a number of capacities. The largest being 3 liters (a little more than 3 quarts). If you have one of those, 2 water bottles on your bike, and top off at every trailhead with water, you should have no trouble with water intake. You may have trouble finding approved places of disposing of all that water. :)

sbikes from KCMO on 04/18/2006 07:09 PM
The railroad needed water every 10 miles, so they built a town every 10 miles. You shouldn't

have problem finding water as most, not all, but most, of those little towns still have a place

where you can get water.

looking for biking buddy
Dave Grisham from Houston, TX on 04/18/2006 09:22 AM
A buddy and I (both early 50's and ret) are planning on doing the trail in 3 days starting June 18. We are riding across Okla on OKFreeWheel the week preceding that, driving to Clinton and starting the next day (Sun). We will have vehicle support (wives) at the stopover towns. I'm then be continuing on to ride across Mich. on the PALM ride the next week.

Choosing an itinerary
Woodpete from Lawrenceville NJ on 04/15/2006 07:00 AM
May 16th-20th(?) Portion along River, Start Boonville? Rocheport? B&B about 4 nights. Where to leave the car? How to shuttle back? Can this senior couple expect to go their usual 35-45 miles per day? How's the surface in the rain?

savage24 from KC,MO on 04/15/2006 11:42 PM
Woodpete, You basically have two options on the shuttle: Hire a private shuttle service or plan your ride so you can ride Amtrak. I think a private shuttle would be expensive for only two people. Amtrak's fares are quite reasonable, but their baggage policy will not allow most bike trailers and the trains are often late. If you are not pulling trailers are riding a tandem, I suggest planning a ride between Sedalia and Marthasville and riding Amtrak. I always like to do the shuttle part first and then ride back to my car. If you stay at a B&B in Marthasville, they would probably allow you to leave your car there and they could take you across the river to the Amtrak station in Washington in the morning to catch the train to Sedalia. You could start your ride in the afternoon when you get off the train, or hire a private shuttle to take you to Boonville (since you stated that you're interested in riding along the river), or spend a night in Sedalia and get a fresh start the next morning. Here is my itinerary suggestion:

Day 1: Sedalia to Boonville - 37 miles

Day 2: Boonville to Hartsburg - 38 miles

Day 3: Hartsburg to Rhineland - 49 miles

Day 4: Rhineland to Marthasville - 28 miles

There is a bit of a climb between Sedalia and Pilot Grove, but the rest is flat. You should be able to do your usual mileage. The trail surface can be soft and a bit sloppy in some places if riding while it is raining but most parts drain well and will dry within an hour after the rain has stopped, especialy if the sun comes out.

If you don't mind the cost of the private shuttle and only want to do the portion along the river, I would leave the car in St Charles, hire a shuttle to Rocheport and ride back.

woodpete from lawrenceville, nj on 04/17/2006 06:22 PM
Thanks very much for your suggestions--are busy mapping it out now!

Trailside Cafe & Bike Shop (Rocheport)
Dave and Jean from Lincoln, NE on 07/19/2005 05:02 PM
We walked the 10 miles from New Franklin to Rocheport with our three year old in the stroller. We decided to rent bikes and a child trailer at the Trailside Cafe and Bikeshop. The equipment was in excellent condition and our son liked their trailer better than the one we have! We got stuck in a lightening storm on the way back to New Franklin and were later getting the bikes back than we had expected. The store staff was waiting for us and said they'd been concerned about us. They were very thoughtful.

Roger from Fort Leavenworth, KS on 04/16/2006 02:33 PM
We ate lunch at the Trailside Café and Bike Shop. Had a great meal at a great price. The chicken wrap combo for $4 can't be beat! The burgers looked good too. The outside tables are the place to be – right at the Rocheport Trail Head. The Trailside folks are bike people. They love their job and will talk bikes all day. Go test ride their bikes.

Restaurant Review of Lucy's Bar and Grill - McBain
Roger from Fort Leavenworth, KS on 04/16/2006 02:06 PM

Had lunch at Lucy’s Bar and Grill in McBaine. Lucy’s is located less than a football field South of the trail on Highway K. We were there on Friday, 14 April when not much else on the trail was open. Lucy’s will be open! This place caters to local professional farmers. Lucy’s is a cinder brick building with Budweiser decor with one pool table and a jukebox (with two types of music - country and western). They don’t have a visible bar but have stools with counter service and numerous tables (right out of the 1950s). My wife and I had the burger platter. Their burgers must be at least ¾ pound (maybe more). My child loved Lucy’s pies. Eating at Lucy’s will immerse you in the true Missouri culture. You could expect to see Andy Griffin in there!

From the Rocheport Trail Head to Lucy’s is about 10 miles one-way (20 mile round trip) – perfect mileage for a family outing.

Questions on Parking Car for One Way Trip
Jake857 from Gladstone on 04/15/2006 06:06 PM

I am planning a group weekend one-way ride from New Franklin eastward to Jefferson City or Tebbetts.

I was wanting to drive ahead a leave a vehicle near our destination point, and also park a vehicle at the departure point.

Can anyone recommend places to leave a vehicle- preferably free and safe?

Thanks for the input. Jake

sbikes from Kansas City on 04/15/2006 11:01 PM
How about leaving your car at the parking lot next to Hartsburg Cycle Depot? That is not

quite as far as you were wanting to go, but it's fine to leave your car overnight there without

a problem. And, there are people around to kind of keep an eye on things. I do not

recommend leaving your car at the Jefferson City trailhead as there have been problems there

with cars being broken into and vandalized, sad, but true.

savage24 from KC,MO on 04/16/2006 10:51 AM
I agree with sbikes - I would not leave a car at Jeff City. Tebbetts would probably be okay. Hartsburg is a good idea also. As for leaving a car at the departure point, I would check with the New Franklin police department or the Katy Roundhouse Campground.

Abigails Poor Service - Rocheport
Anonymous on 04/15/2006 08:55 PM
I went into Abigails for lunch today at 12:30 (my wife and child waited outside). I walked into the door and stood for three minutes. There were two waitresses/hostesses/associates within arms reach the entire three minutes I stood there. They didn't even acknowledge I was standing there. All of the 8-10 tables in the small restaurant had customers. I wasn't expecting to get a table. All I wanted was to be acknowledged with the greeting of the day and "we'll be right with you" or "give me a second and I'll be right back".


We went to the Trailside Cafe and Bike Shop and had a great chicken wrap. Trailside even let me test ride their Burley recumbent. Trailside is a great place and caters to the bicycle crowd. Trailside's outside tables are just as hip/trendy as Abigails plus at Trailside you can sit and watch the action at the Rocheport trail head.

first timers
Peggy Muncy from North Little Rock, Arkansas on 04/10/2006 09:20 AM
My husband are planning a 3-4 day ride on the trail for my mother's day present. Planning to start mid-week second week in May. Want to go west to east. We are experienced cyclists and have done lots of bike tours the past 15 years. Looking to do around 50 miles a day. Any suggestions which town would be the best place to start and finish up? Particularly wanting nice B&B's and good restaurants so we are open to doing any section with these amenities along the way. Recommendations of B&B's and towns would be greatly appreciated for the suggested route. Thanks!

frank umbdenstock from festus on 04/10/2006 01:03 PM
hey there peggy, i personally think rocheport then east is the prettiest route, but that is just me. my perosonal advice is to use this here web site for all its worth. ray, the web master, has done an excellent job of covering almost anything you would need for a bike ride. i have ridden from booneville to no. jefferson, from sedialia to 8 miles east and back, from st. charles to 10 miles out and back and from weldon springs to augusta. the prettiest is from rocheport east. i've have read where the globe hotel in hartsburg is great and some other b & b's along the way, but don't know personally. if you are in or around rocheport, you have to ride through the rocheport tunnel. hope this helps some anyways. happy bikin and happy mothers day.

The Psychlist on 04/10/2006 04:58 PM
Schoolhouse B&B in Rocheport - an old school building converted into a B&B - fun & charming.

Rhona Lococo( Lococo House ll, B&B) from St. Charles Mo63301 on 04/10/2006 11:32 PM
Come and stay at Lococo House ll, B&B ---- just three blocks from the Trail Head ----- make it your beginning or end to riding the trail ----- start off with a good long soak in the hot tub and then a soothing massage ----- fresh baked goods in the evening and shuttle service ---- great breakfast to start your day ---- check us out on our web site ----www.lococohouse.com ----Rhona Lococo

TS from St Louis on 04/11/2006 05:39 AM
Capt Wohlt Inn in Hermann will pick you up from the trailhead. There's lots to do and see in Hermann.

TRinJboro from Jonesboro, AR on 04/11/2006 11:38 AM
I would suggest starting in Sedalia, stay at the Bothwell Hotel. It is an old, historic hotel that's been restored and they cater to bicyclists. Spend the next night in Rocheport, there are several good B & B's there. Then ride to N. Jefferson, where there are several places that will pick you up at the trailhead and take you over the river and back the next morning. Or, if you're up to something a little more spartan, ride 12 miles further on to Tebbetts. There you'll find the hostel type Turner Katy Trail Shelter that's run by the MO State Parks Division. Then ride to Marthasville, where the Heaven on Earth B&B has a good reputation. Then on to St. Charles. This gives you approximately 50 miles each day. This site is a wonderful resource for more information on all the above, along with interesting places to stop and visit. Good luck, you'll love the KATY.

connection with the trans america trail
willy from kaneohe, HI on 04/09/2006 03:11 AM
we are planning an west to east bike trip on the Adventure Cycling trans america trail. we would like to detour to Clinton and spend some time doing the entire Katy Trail. Any ideas on reasonable routes to make the connections? I have been reviewing the MO DOT maps that show the traffic volumes etc. but there are many choices of the "green routes" Also the Mississippi River Trail would seem to be an appropriate connection at the eastern end but I wonder what it is like to go around St. Louis on this trail? All responses greatly appreciated.

Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 04/09/2006 06:41 AM
Mahalo Willy - Go to Missouri Bike Federation Web for a best detour to Clinton from the TransAmerica, at the other end the Confluence Trail System. Do a search with key words Confluence Trail and a good amount of trails will pop up in and around St. Louis. The web site should include the Chain of Rocks Bridge. You know doing the KATY also gets you a part of the Lewis & Clark Heritage Trail!! Enjoy the voyage......Mark of the Dalton Boys

frank umbdenstock from festus, mo on 04/09/2006 04:44 PM
willy, hey there, are you talking bout the trail that runs from downtown st. louis north of the arch, north to the chain of rocks bridge and beyond??? if you are, supposedly it goes all the way past alton, ill., all the way to grafton, ill. i have ridden the trail from downtown to the chain of rocks bridge and in to ill. it is a nice trail that goes through an industrial area and across and on top of a levee, going through north riverview park then across the old chain of rocks bridge. it is a nice ride on asphalt, some nice views, and fairly easy ridin. during the week you'll need to be careful of heavy truck traffic, week ends not so much. i hope this helps and it is the trail you are talkin bouts. if you would like, go to www.trailnet.net happy bikin

Ray (Webmaster) on 04/09/2006 10:10 PM
Here's a web page that tells you how to get from the Katy Trail to downtown St Louis, where you can catch the Riverfront trail mentioned above.

Das Gast Haus Nadler (Defiance)
Linda Kelleher from Sandwich, Illinois on 03/24/2006 05:27 PM
We are planning out our first trip on this trail and may end up overnite @ Das Gast Hause...any feedback about this one???

ET from Columbia on 03/27/2006 03:43 PM
We had a great stay there a couple of years ago. They have a hot tub, and complimentary glass of wine on arrival. Each room has its own section of the large wrap-around porch. Breakfast was fantastic--more than we could eat, and we like big breakfasts.

Bob Corbett from St. Louis on 04/09/2006 12:57 PM

A friend and I stayed there one night last summer. It was fantastic. Elegant, roomy, friendly, just about a block from the trail head. And as the other person said, a phenomenal breakfast one of the most lovely, attractive, elegant and tasty, to say nothing about how GIGANTIC.

A very nice place.

BB in Hermann
Michael from Illinois on 03/27/2006 01:23 PM
I am looking for a recommendation on a great Bed and Breakfast in Hermann. Any thoughts? I will be staying a couple of days in early June.

bryan from Springdale, AR on 03/30/2006 08:33 PM
I highly recomend Birks Gausthaus. Rick and Diane are great people, the house wonderful and you can't beat the food or the prices. You can find a link to thier site elsewhere on this site. King and queen size beds, large clawfoot tubs (first tub I've been in that was long enough for me) comfy chairs and a good location. It's easy to find and easy to get to if you're on bikes. Tell them Bryan and Carolanne from Arkansas sent you.

Trihrd from Wildwood, MO on 04/07/2006 03:45 PM
My wife and I stay at the Herman Hills Vineyard B & B. Magnificant setting with great views of the town and valley. Walking distance to the winery if you're so inclined. Hot tub jetted jacuzzi, complimentary glass of wine or beer upon arrival, cookies at night and a great breakfast. It is a bit on the high side with the price dropping $100.00 during the week. Check it out.

midwest from Indianapolis on 04/07/2006 06:34 AM
Yes, Birk's Gasthaus is the best in Hermann. WONDERFUL hosts; breakfasts and walkable to most of Hermann.

Breanna's Soda Shop Restaurant (Clinton)
nikki perron from clinton on 04/05/2006 02:23 PM
It,s the best place to catch the feeling of the past. Very easy to relax and enjoy yourself.

Getting from St. Charles to downtown St. Louis w/a bike
Don S. from Kansas City on 04/03/2006 08:56 PM
I'm attending a convention at the end of June at America's Center in downtown St. Louis

and I'd like to bike the Katy from mid-Missouri to St. Charles, rather than driving. But how

do I get me and my bike from the end of the trail to the convention center hotels? Any

bike routes or recommended transports that are bike-friendly?

m from O'Fallon on 04/03/2006 10:01 PM
Look at the mass transit (Metro busses with front mounted racks and Metrolink train)options here: http://www.metrostlouis.org/MetroNews/FAQs/bikenrideFAQs.asp

Ray (Webmaster) on 04/03/2006 10:18 PM
Take a look at these two webpages: Getting from the Katy Trail to Downtown St Louis (to bike all the way downtown), and Getting from Lambert-St Louis Airport to the Katy Trail (from the airport you can catch MetroLink)

Rhona Lococo from St. Charles on 04/04/2006 11:42 PM
here I am again ----- the ride from St. Charles to St.Louis convention center ---is not bicycle friendly to say the least ------ we have a B&B in ST. Charles just three blocks from the trailhead ---- we will shuttle you to St. louis convention center ----the cost is 25.00------it is 25 miles ------ for us to shuttle you ---you must spend a night with us ---- check out our web site ----www.lococohouse.com ----let us know if we can be of help to you ---Rhona Lococo

2006 DNR Ride, again...
MattMan628 from Independence, MO on 03/31/2006 06:04 PM
I'm sorry if I'm repeating topics, but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for. I haven't sent in my registration yet, so will they send me more information on the ride when I do? Basically, I'm concerned with how I will get to the trail on Monday. I plan on taking the shuttle from Clinton to St Charles, and probably staying in the hotel they recommended (Comfort Suites?). Do I have to walk all of my stuff 2 miles from the hotel or will they haul me over there?? Would I be better off staying at one of the two places closer to the trailhead?

Sorry, I guess I have a fear of being left behind! =)

Mamawolfie from SE Kansas on 03/31/2006 08:02 PM
My husband and I will be there. We are taking the AMtrak from Kansas City, Mo to Kirkwood and then a shuttle to Trailhead. Not sure if coming in on Sat or Sun. and also not sure where to stay.

I would check with the hotel or hire a shuttle.

savage24 from KC,MO on 03/31/2006 10:16 PM

First let me make it clear that I am not with the DNR or connected to the ride in any official capacity. I have participated in the ride the last 5 years and have always camped. This is just what I have observed in past years.

You should receive a confirmation and rider number in April or early June if you have not already. You will probably recieve a folder of information about the ride in Clinton before you board the bus or in St Charles on Sunday afternoon. The hotel shuttle is an optional service that is listed on the registration form. If you pay the fee, the DNR staff will take you and your bags to and from the hotel in a large van. I believe they secure your bikes at camp (probably put them in the baggage truck overnight).

More details on the hotel shuttle: I believe they run several shuttle trips in the afternoon/evening but only one in the morning. When you arrive in camp each day, after checking in, you can get your bags and catch the shuttle to your hotel to check in, shower, take a nap, etc. Then you can get the shuttle back to camp for dinner and the riders meeting and then get on the shuttle again to go back to your hotel for the night. In the morning, you catch the shuttle back to camp for breakfast and then begin the days ride.

I hope this helps and I hope it is all accurate!

MattMan628 from Independence, MO on 04/01/2006 07:59 AM
Actually, I am camping too. I was just planning on the hotel for Sunday (didn't know if there was camping available for that day). Thanks a ton for the info, though!

savage24 from KC,MO on 04/01/2006 09:19 AM
You may be able to pay for a shuttle ride that day. That's a wise move to get a hotel for Sunday. I never really get a good nights sleep when we start in St Charles; too much traffic noise from nearby I-70, but I'm too cheap to pay for a hotel room!

Anonymous on 04/04/2006 10:14 AM
Yes, you can pay for the shuttle for just one day. If you stay at the hotel on Sunday night rather than camp, you will have all shuttle services provided for that one night. You can also switch it up and camp every other night or any combination you like. With all shuttles provided on the days you choose to stay in a motel. If you have any questions feel free to call DNR, they are always good about answering questions.

Rhona Lococo from St. Charles on 04/04/2006 11:37 PM
here I am again------ we have a B&B just three blocks from trail head ----- our rooms are reasonable and we have a hot tub and massage available ------- we will shuttle you ---- and get you where you need to start ----let us know if we can be of help to you ----Rhona Lococo ----Lococo House ll ----Rhonaloc@aol.com

Burr Oak Tree
Ana Lopez from Huntsdale MO on 08/19/2005 12:31 PM
Correction The State Champion Bur Oak tree is owned by Mr. John Sam Williamson, Jr. It is in vesinity of Huntsdale MO.

It's Circumference is 289" Height 85 feet and had a spread of about 118 feet. estimated age Over 300 years

You can also see info and pictures at www.huntsdalemo.com

Anonymous from Rocheport on 03/11/2006 08:54 AM
There is a beautiful black and white pen and ink drawing of this tree in the "Art & Antiques" shop in Rocheport. They have 30"x 22" signed and numbered limited edition prints available. mcrr@mchsi.com

missyanne1948 from Ciolumbia, Missouri on 04/02/2006 09:11 PM
"Burr Oak Tree " you are talking about is not in Huntsdale or Rochport It is on Route K (just keep going south on Providence) on the south side of Columbia The land it is on may very well be owned by Mr. John Sam Williamson, Jr

There are many legends about this tree. One that I am most familar with is that it is a witches hanging tree. I have also been told that visiting the tree on Halloween is a very eerie experience

At one time there was a plaque at the tree site but vandals destroyed it many years ago.

St. Charles to Springfield
Wayde from St. Charles on 04/02/2006 03:30 PM
Does anyone have a bike route from St. Charles to Springfield?

sbikes from Jeff City on 04/02/2006 04:13 PM
Springfield, MO? Take the Katy Trail to Clinton. Then look at the maps at this link via

modot: http://www.modot.gov/othertransportation/bike_ped/Bike-PedProgram--


I drove Highway 13 from Clinton to Springfield not so long ago, and it would be bike

feasible. While there is some traffic (more during the "season" when people are headed to

Branson), but it's not bad.

Once you get to Springfield, there are ample bike trails/routes to get all over town.

May the wind be at your back....!!

Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 04/02/2006 08:39 PM
For some relief from Highway 13......the Frisco Highline Trail runs for 35 miles from Bolivar to Springfield.


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