connection with the trans america trail -
willy from kaneohe, HI on 04/09/2006 03:11 AM
we are planning an west to east bike trip on the Adventure Cycling trans america trail. we would like to detour to Clinton and spend some time doing the entire Katy Trail. Any ideas on reasonable routes to make the connections? I have been reviewing the MO DOT maps that show the traffic volumes etc. but there are many choices of the "green routes" Also the Mississippi River Trail would seem to be an appropriate connection at the eastern end but I wonder what it is like to go around St. Louis on this trail? All responses greatly appreciated.
Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 04/09/2006 06:41 AM
Mahalo Willy - Go to Missouri Bike Federation Web for a best detour to Clinton from the TransAmerica, at the other end the Confluence Trail System. Do a search with key words Confluence Trail and a good amount of trails will pop up in and around St. Louis. The web site should include the Chain of Rocks Bridge. You know doing the KATY also gets you a part of the Lewis & Clark Heritage Trail!! Enjoy the voyage......Mark of the Dalton Boys
frank umbdenstock from festus, mo on 04/09/2006 04:44 PM
willy, hey there, are you talking bout the trail that runs from downtown st. louis north of the arch, north to the chain of rocks bridge and beyond??? if you are, supposedly it goes all the way past alton, ill., all the way to grafton, ill. i have ridden the trail from downtown to the chain of rocks bridge and in to ill. it is a nice trail that goes through an industrial area and across and on top of a levee, going through north riverview park then across the old chain of rocks bridge. it is a nice ride on asphalt, some nice views, and fairly easy ridin. during the week you'll need to be careful of heavy truck traffic, week ends not so much. i hope this helps and it is the trail you are talkin bouts. if you would like, go to www.trailnet.net happy bikin
Ray (Webmaster) on 04/09/2006 10:10 PM
Das Gast Haus Nadler (Defiance) -
Linda Kelleher from Sandwich, Illinois on 03/24/2006 05:27 PM
We are planning out our first trip on this trail and may end up overnite @ Das Gast Hause...any feedback about this one???
ET from Columbia on 03/27/2006 03:43 PM
We had a great stay there a couple of years ago. They have a hot tub, and complimentary glass of wine on arrival. Each room has its own section of the large wrap-around porch. Breakfast was fantastic--more than we could eat, and we like big breakfasts.
Bob Corbett from St. Louis on 04/09/2006 12:57 PM
A friend and I stayed there one night last summer. It was fantastic. Elegant, roomy, friendly, just about a block from the trail head. And as the other person said, a phenomenal breakfast one of the most lovely, attractive, elegant and tasty, to say nothing about how GIGANTIC.
A very nice place.
BB in Hermann -
Michael from Illinois on 03/27/2006 01:23 PM
I am looking for a recommendation on a great Bed and Breakfast in Hermann. Any thoughts? I will be staying a couple of days in early June.
bryan from Springdale, AR on 03/30/2006 08:33 PM
I highly recomend Birks Gausthaus. Rick and Diane are great people, the house wonderful and you can't beat the food or the prices. You can find a link to thier site elsewhere on this site. King and queen size beds, large clawfoot tubs (first tub I've been in that was long enough for me) comfy chairs and a good location. It's easy to find and easy to get to if you're on bikes. Tell them Bryan and Carolanne from Arkansas sent you.
Trihrd from Wildwood, MO on 04/07/2006 03:45 PM
My wife and I stay at the Herman Hills Vineyard B & B. Magnificant setting with great views of the town and valley. Walking distance to the winery if you're so inclined. Hot tub jetted jacuzzi, complimentary glass of wine or beer upon arrival, cookies at night and a great breakfast. It is a bit on the high side with the price dropping $100.00 during the week. Check it out.
midwest from Indianapolis on 04/07/2006 06:34 AM
Yes, Birk's Gasthaus is the best in Hermann. WONDERFUL hosts; breakfasts and walkable to most of Hermann.
Breanna's Soda Shop Restaurant (Clinton) -
nikki perron from clinton on 04/05/2006 02:23 PM
It,s the best place to catch the feeling of the past. Very easy to relax and enjoy yourself.
Getting from St. Charles to downtown St. Louis w/a bike -
Don S. from Kansas City on 04/03/2006 08:56 PM
I'm attending a convention at the end of June at America's Center in downtown St. Louis
and I'd like to bike the Katy from mid-Missouri to St. Charles, rather than driving. But how
do I get me and my bike from the end of the trail to the convention center hotels? Any
bike routes or recommended transports that are bike-friendly?
m from O'Fallon on 04/03/2006 10:01 PM
Look at the mass transit (Metro busses with front mounted racks and Metrolink train)options here: http://www.metrostlouis.org/MetroNews/FAQs/bikenrideFAQs.asp
Ray (Webmaster) on 04/03/2006 10:18 PM
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles on 04/04/2006 11:42 PM
here I am again ----- the ride from St. Charles to St.Louis convention center ---is not bicycle friendly to say the least ------ we have a B&B in ST. Charles just three blocks from the trailhead ---- we will shuttle you to St. louis convention center ----the cost is 25.00------it is 25 miles ------ for us to shuttle you ---you must spend a night with us ---- check out our web site ----www.lococohouse.com ----let us know if we can be of help to you ---Rhona Lococo
2006 DNR Ride, again... -
MattMan628 from Independence, MO on 03/31/2006 06:04 PM
I'm sorry if I'm repeating topics, but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for. I haven't sent in my registration yet, so will they send me more information on the ride when I do? Basically, I'm concerned with how I will get to the trail on Monday. I plan on taking the shuttle from Clinton to St Charles, and probably staying in the hotel they recommended (Comfort Suites?). Do I have to walk all of my stuff 2 miles from the hotel or will they haul me over there?? Would I be better off staying at one of the two places closer to the trailhead?
Sorry, I guess I have a fear of being left behind! =)
Mamawolfie from SE Kansas on 03/31/2006 08:02 PM
My husband and I will be there. We are taking the AMtrak from Kansas City, Mo to Kirkwood and then a shuttle to Trailhead. Not sure if coming in on Sat or Sun. and also not sure where to stay.
I would check with the hotel or hire a shuttle.
savage24 from KC,MO on 03/31/2006 10:16 PM
First let me make it clear that I am not with the DNR or connected to the ride in any official capacity. I have participated in the ride the last 5 years and have always camped. This is just what I have observed in past years.
You should receive a confirmation and rider number in April or early June if you have not already. You will probably recieve a folder of information about the ride in Clinton before you board the bus or in St Charles on Sunday afternoon. The hotel shuttle is an optional service that is listed on the registration form. If you pay the fee, the DNR staff will take you and your bags to and from the hotel in a large van. I believe they secure your bikes at camp (probably put them in the baggage truck overnight).
More details on the hotel shuttle: I believe they run several shuttle trips in the afternoon/evening but only one in the morning. When you arrive in camp each day, after checking in, you can get your bags and catch the shuttle to your hotel to check in, shower, take a nap, etc. Then you can get the shuttle back to camp for dinner and the riders meeting and then get on the shuttle again to go back to your hotel for the night. In the morning, you catch the shuttle back to camp for breakfast and then begin the days ride.
I hope this helps and I hope it is all accurate!
MattMan628 from Independence, MO on 04/01/2006 07:59 AM
Actually, I am camping too. I was just planning on the hotel for Sunday (didn't know if there was camping available for that day). Thanks a ton for the info, though!
savage24 from KC,MO on 04/01/2006 09:19 AM
You may be able to pay for a shuttle ride that day. That's a wise move to get a hotel for Sunday. I never really get a good nights sleep when we start in St Charles; too much traffic noise from nearby I-70, but I'm too cheap to pay for a hotel room!
Anonymous on 04/04/2006 10:14 AM
Yes, you can pay for the shuttle for just one day. If you stay at the hotel on Sunday night rather than camp, you will have all shuttle services provided for that one night. You can also switch it up and camp every other night or any combination you like. With all shuttles provided on the days you choose to stay in a motel. If you have any questions feel free to call DNR, they are always good about answering questions.
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles on 04/04/2006 11:37 PM
here I am again------ we have a B&B just three blocks from trail head ----- our rooms are reasonable and we have a hot tub and massage available ------- we will shuttle you ---- and get you where you need to start ----let us know if we can be of help to you ----Rhona Lococo ----Lococo House ll ----Rhonaloc@aol.com
Burr Oak Tree -
Ana Lopez from Huntsdale MO on 08/19/2005 12:31 PM
Correction The State Champion Bur Oak tree is owned by Mr. John Sam Williamson, Jr. It is in vesinity of Huntsdale MO.
It's Circumference is 289" Height 85 feet and had a spread of about 118 feet. estimated age Over 300 years
You can also see info and pictures at www.huntsdalemo.com
Anonymous from Rocheport on 03/11/2006 08:54 AM
There is a beautiful black and white pen and ink drawing of this tree in the "Art & Antiques" shop in Rocheport. They have 30"x 22" signed and numbered limited edition prints available. firstname.lastname@example.org
missyanne1948 from Ciolumbia, Missouri on 04/02/2006 09:11 PM
"Burr Oak Tree " you are talking about is not in Huntsdale or Rochport It is on Route K (just keep going south on Providence) on the south side of Columbia The land it is on may very well be owned by Mr. John Sam Williamson, Jr
There are many legends about this tree. One that I am most familar with is that it is a witches hanging tree. I have also been told that visiting the tree on Halloween is a very eerie experience
At one time there was a plaque at the tree site but vandals destroyed it many years ago.
St. Charles to Springfield -
Wayde from St. Charles on 04/02/2006 03:30 PM
Does anyone have a bike route from St. Charles to Springfield?
sbikes from Jeff City on 04/02/2006 04:13 PM
Springfield, MO? Take the Katy Trail to Clinton. Then look at the maps at this link via
I drove Highway 13 from Clinton to Springfield not so long ago, and it would be bike
feasible. While there is some traffic (more during the "season" when people are headed to
Branson), but it's not bad.
Once you get to Springfield, there are ample bike trails/routes to get all over town.
May the wind be at your back....!!
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 04/02/2006 08:39 PM
For some relief from Highway 13......the Frisco Highline Trail runs for 35 miles from Bolivar to Springfield.
accomodations (Augusta) -
sue from springfield IL on 01/20/2006 09:44 PM
I'm looking for accomodations near Augusta for two single girls who want to bike the Katy trail. All of the b&b's are geared toward couples with queen/king beds. Does anyone know of accomodations with either 2 single or 2 double beds per room?
Anonymous from Augusta on 03/06/2006 04:33 PM
I think the Old Town Augusta Inn - near the trail - has a two bed setup.
Psychlist from St Louis on 03/07/2006 08:57 AM
About 15 miles west of Augusta is the Peers Store. It's a little country store where you can rent the room above the store overnight for a very reasonable rate. Two beds, very comfortable, and the owner is very interesting and full of stories.
Mike from O'Fallon, MO on 03/08/2006 08:06 AM
If you are just looking for a place to lay your head, check out the cabins at St. Charles County's Klondike park. The are sparse, sleep up to 8, no heat or cooling...but it's a roof, a bed, shower facilities within the park and only $60 (half a B&B).
jill from collinsville on 04/01/2006 09:33 PM
I am also getting together a group of girls to ride the katy trail. We were wanting to sleep somewhere near augusta but can't find anything for about 6 people. We don't want to have to rent bed and breakfast rooms. Does anyone have any ideas?
Boonville Trailhead at depot (Boonville) -
J R from Springfield, MO on 07/14/2005 07:59 AM
Nice historic spot, but the motels are 3.5 miles away--up steep Spring St and then another 3 miles south on Main Street to I70 where the motels are located. When the Isle of Capri Casino opens up their hotel section--2006--it will be across the bridge and very easy access to the trail head, but until then, would not recommend stopping for the night in Booneville if you don't have a chase car!
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 07/14/2005 08:50 AM
Not necessarily all true here. If you are starting or finishing a ride in Booneville or passing through, the Comfort Inn is worth checking into. Below is my reply to a recent poster wanting directions to the Comfort Inn:
The Comfort Inn is about a mile east of the Katy...just north of I-70 and a few miles south of Booneville.
If you are riding east to west on the Katy, after you pass the depot in Booneville you will pass through a long stretch of residential district, up a grade for quite a ways and through a small tunnel under a roadway. It's probably 4-5 miles from the depot to the Comfort Inn.
There is a clearing on your left side near mile post #194. A trail through the clearing leads to the Fuqua Homes manufacturing plant. Somewhat confusing there......but, ride through their parking lot toward the south and onto the blacktop road....it will lead you to the Comfort Inn (about a mile) which will be on your right with a truckstop on your left.
We have found the Comfort Inn staff to be very friendly and accomodating. No problem taking your bikes to your room or leaving your car in their parking lot for a few days while you are on the trail.
Enjoy your trip!
- posted 6/29/2005 8:56:48 AM by Trek Biker , St. Joseph, MO
Anonymous on 07/14/2005 05:17 PM
Keep your eyes open to the future, and on the Historic Hotel Frederick. Right on the southeast corner of the Missouri River Brige at 501 High Street Boonville,Mo. Good things are coming.
Anonymous on 07/15/2005 09:39 AM
Wow! Shock and Awe! And all that stuff! Sounds like the palm reader that used to be at the Lake of the Ozarks dam. Seriously now.....so what.....you think you know something no one else does and you're the winner because you are dangling a carrot telling prospective riders nothing. How bout some real information for real people who want to take a real ride. Lets get real!
Post Script....."I seeeeeeee for youuuuu.....great things in the future."
Ray (webmaster) on 07/15/2005 05:36 PM
Thanks for letting us know about Hotel Frederick. Any idea WHEN the good things are coming? If you're involved with the hotel, please let me know when it opens so I can include it in the website.
ET from Columbia, MO on 07/16/2005 11:52 AM
I have mentioned this elsewhere, but it is pertinent to this comment, too. We had a wonderful time at a B&B in Boonville called the Officer's Club. You still can't avoid the hill on Spring Street, but it's close to the trail.
savage24 from KC MO on 08/20/2005 07:29 AM
Maybe it's because I grew up in Boonville climbing all those hills, but I just don't see what is so tough about Spring Street from the depot to Main street. It's NOT that steep, and it certainly isn't long. If you don't like that "hill", don't even THINK about staying in Augusta.... (:
Debi from Boonville on 10/30/2005 05:49 PM
There is two B & B 's that I know of that are 2 blocks from the trail and the bridge. One is riverview suites 660-882-0300 and the other is four doors inn. I can't remember the other number. Also the Officers Club on 3rd Street. Just a few more flat blocks.
Jody from St. Louis on 04/01/2006 01:02 PM
One of the nicest B&B's in the state, Rivercene Mansion, is at the end of the Boonville bridge. Staying at a Civil War mansion is alot nicer than most places. The rooms are big and beautiful, and the acreage makes it very relaxing. The four of us stayed there for less than $45 each, and that included a nice breakfast.
cost if ride service -
Stacy from St. Louis on 01/17/2006 10:41 AM
I am looking for a way to get from clinton to machens...is amtrak the most convenient and how much approx. would that long drive cost? there doesn't seem like there are many sites dedicated to this issue what do ppl usually do? my bf and i want to ride the whole thing and camp each night and not have to ride it back...we want this to be a one way trip
BrnSny from Around STL County on 01/17/2006 01:25 PM
First, know that the trail doesn't really extend to Machens, it ends about two miles west of St Charles. Also, the Amtrack will take you from Kirkwood to Sedalia but that's as far west along the trail as it can take you. I'm not sure there's an ideal solution for you but I have seen where people advertise that they shuttle people along the trail. A possibility might be to make Sedalia a two-day home base, ride to Clinton and back, then head east. Good Luck!
BrnSny from Around STL County on 01/17/2006 01:50 PM
Oh, one other thing - www.Amtrak.com will give you the fair and schedule from Kirkwood (or STL) to Sedailia and they're quite affordable, they allow you to tranport your bike for an additional fee but there is a limit to how many bikes can be transported so it's best to reserve it well in advance.
Ray (webmaster) on 01/18/2006 04:45 AM
As BrnSny mentioned, you really just have two options for a 1-way trip: shuttle service or Amtrak. More resources: here's a page discussing the Amtrak option
, and a list of shuttle services
Jody from St. Louis on 04/01/2006 12:44 PM
Gary Creason, of Creason's Shuttle Service, has been a life-saver for many travellers, and tries to take care of trail riders shuttle needs if possible, from one end of the Katy to the other.
Weather and services at end of April -
C.S. from Iowa on 03/29/2006 10:38 PM
We want to ride the trail in April 29-May 2, approximately. Have never seen the trail. Looks like from your weather map it could be rainy and we could lack services due to being out of season. Closest access for us is the western end. Any advice?
gee on 03/30/2006 12:51 AM
Spring on the trail can be a bit of hit and miss with the weather but don't let that stop you. Most of the time day's are warm, in the high 60's to 70's. I must say you have better weather men than we do to forcast the weather so far in advance, don't always trust weather maps. Service on the trail starts April 1 for those who are still in business, it is hard to make a living on the trail. Some are not open on Mondays, some Tuesday and Wednesday, but most are open Thursdays thru Sunday.
Pack one outfit for cold nights, it can get a little chilly sometimes. Layers of clothing will work and if at all possible rain gear would help.
Rochport to Jeff City is the best part of the trail. Don't forget to check out Amtrak trains and the stations they serve, that would give you a one way ride lasting about 3 days.
Good Luck and Happy Trails
sbikes from KCMO on 03/31/2006 09:23 PM
Most places along the trail should be open by then. But, plan ahead...carry an extra water
bottle and a Luna bar in your bag, just in case you get caught. Powdered Gatorade is a
godsend for me.
Other than that, have a great ride! Weather this time of year could be anything. Dress in
layers, leave the jeans at home (too heavy), bring shorts and sweats (or leg warmers),
short sleeve jerseys with arm warmers (because it will be warm during the middle of the
day, probably). The trail is more desolate between Clinton and Booneville, but full of its
own beauty...not unlike the farmland of Iowa. The topography changes between
Booneville and Rocheport where you start to be between the river and tall bluffs. Alos,
once you get to Booneville east there are services about every 10 miles or so (because the
trains needed to refuel every 10 miles, so they built a town everywhere the train needed to
stop!) And, if it rains, well you will get wet...but, then the sun will come out and you will
dry off. And in some places, like in Pilot Grove, the local grocery stores will happily fix you
maryk from stl on 03/30/2006 01:57 AM
Cute little town but sad to say we never got the chance to eat at Dotty's cafe. It seems they close at 2:00 pm on Sundays and don't open again until Wednesday. Thank god for the bike shop they had drinks and snacks, not a full meal but it made my stomach feel better.
Shea from Jeff City on 03/31/2006 09:15 PM
I have had that problem with Dottie's too. The bike shop is great. I love the coffee bar there.
I highly recommend the smoothies. It's a great place to sit and relax and chat with the other