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What to take
 -  + I plan on riding the Katy from Sedalia to St. Charles on Oct 3,4,5. I'm looking for any advice on where to stay from what to take. Below is my plan so far:

The first day-Ride Amtrak from St Lo...
Discussion started 09/18/2006 09:00 AM by Paulie - 13 replies (last reply by A B & GB at 10/10/2006 01:53 PM)
Paulie from Knoxville TN on 09/18/2006 09:00 AM
I plan on riding the Katy from Sedalia to St. Charles on Oct 3,4,5. I'm looking for any advice on where to stay from what to take. Below is my plan so far:



The first day-Ride Amtrak from St Louis to Sedalia then stay the night. 2nd day-Sedalia to Rocheport, 3nd day-Rocheport to Hermann, 4th day-Hermann to St Charles.



What I plan to take:



Intense Tracer mountian bike w/ seatpost rack & bike bag

1 all in one tool

1 small knife

3 spare tubes

6 compressed air w/ dispenser

1 patch kit

3 tire levers

1 chain link

1 small roll of electrical tape(for emergency repairs)

4 tie wraps(for emergency repairs)

1 small tri flo(lube)

2 water bottles

1 lock & cable

1 tube of sunscreen

1 toothbrush and paste

1 helmet

1 pair bike shorts

2 jerseys

1 pair bike shoes

2 pair socks

1 rain jacket

4 bandanas

2 t shirts

1 pair sandles

1 pair reg. shorts

4 large zip lock bags(to keep everthing in because of dust)

phone & charger

wallet

sunglasses

small first aid kit

dog repellent?(also works somewhat on muggers I've heard)



I'm sure I can wash my jerseys, bike shorts, and socks daily at a motel or a B&B. This was all I was able to fit in my bike bag.



Any advice on my route,lodging, or list of items to take would be helpful. I have no reservations anywhere yet so I can make route adjustments if needed.



thanks, Paulie






 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/18/2006 01:21 PM
The flames may come, but for me......I'd take a package of stick on patches and nix the kit, the three tubes and all the NOS. All that is overkill when you are cramped for space. In the event the tubes all turn to Swiss (very, very doubtfull), pick one up at the bike shop in Rocheport or Hartsburg.



You can gain space by using a small cargo net to strap a backpack or a camelback (if ya want more liquid) to the top of your trunk bag. I got one for just a few buck at Nashbar.com. (I know....support your local bike shop....).



Lots of places book in the Fall when the chlorophyll leaves the trees....you might wanna plan ahead on accomodations.

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/18/2006 11:08 PM
Sounds good. the only thing I would add is a small travel pak of Baby Wipes...they come in

handy...will remove chain grease from almost anything, for starters! I am a big believer in

carrying extra tubes and stuff to change out the tire. Changing out a tube is quick and easy

whereas patching is time consuming and not always very effective. Oh, and throw in some

small zip loc bags...put your cell phone in one, put your money in one. I sometimes have

blood sugar issues so I always carry some Gu or some such energy gel. Have a a great trip!

Sharon

 
Paulie from Knoxville TN on 09/19/2006 09:23 AM
I may end up leaving out a tube or two, space is becoming an issue. I can always pick up more at a bike shop if worse comes to worse. And thanks for the baby wipes suggestion,I definitly take some along.

I did also notice I left gloves of my list. 200 miles without gloves equals sore hands.



Thanks, Paulie

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/19/2006 06:23 PM
I would make room for the tubes. Wrap them around your seatpost and hold them on with a

rubber band if there isn't room in your bag. Bike shopes are not all that frequent along the

Trail and when you need a tube, you can't really pick one up at any of the bars along the

Trail. On the other hand, I have my current job because I stopped to help someone who

chose to carry cookies instead of spare tubes in his bag and was stuck with 2 flat

tires...fortunately, I had spare tubes to share, the cookies were good and I ended up with a

job out of the deal...which was good as I was about to be laid off at my old job! So, there you

go! Sharon

 
Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 09/20/2006 07:25 AM
Apologies sbikes, but I've got to get to that dangling comic straight line...So in essence you were "networking" on the KATY Trail "network"? Sorry & Congratulations, it is funny how one finds stuff but rarely in the expected time or place. Regards.....Mark of the Dalton Boys

 
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles Mo. on 09/22/2006 06:58 PM
We are Lococo House ll, Bed & Breakfast just three blocks from the St. Charles trail head ----- we can provide transportations to Amtrak station or Sedalia and you can leave your car with us ----- accomadations are required for shuttle service ----let us know if we can be of help to you ---- Rhona Lococo -----www.lococohouse.com or call 636-946-0619

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/22/2006 10:03 PM
Worse than networking, I was fishing for clients. I was about to be laid off from my job and

so was going to hang out my shingle again (I'm a lawyer), so I told my friend I was riding with

I was going to hand out a business card to everyone I saw along the Trail...he ROLLED his

eyes when I told him and each time he saw me do it. So, we stopped to help these folks with

their flat tires, I handed my business card to one of them...she worked for the State with an

old friend of mine...and voila! I am now a state employee (the pay isn't great, but the perks

are good!)...so, you just never know what might happen along the Trail! Sharon

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/22/2006 10:09 PM
Also, I can't think of a better place to network...I love riding my bike and I love riding my bike

on the Trail...why not see who else you can meet who loves what you love? Maybe, just

maybe, true love can be found on the Trail...or some reasonable facsimile thereof! : )

 
Paulie from Knoxville TN on 09/22/2006 11:46 PM
note to self-



Ad biz cards to list of "things to take".



Paulie

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/23/2006 05:06 PM
Note to self----



Leave biz cards as well all the rest of the office stuff at work in the office. Enjoy the peace and tranquility of the trail avoiding "networkers" out passin out biz cards and free tubes. And....beware there may be those out looking for some "reasonable facsimile thereof" of love along the trail. Not sure that one is allowed in Missouri state parks.


 
J&K from Drexel MO on 09/24/2006 09:45 AM
Easy there Trek Biker... I found sbikes story very enjoyable. As far as the topic "what to take", I find it easiest to just take my wife. I have your basics, patch kit, tools,plenty of water,and maybe a snack. My wife seems to have "anything" else one could need on the trail! :)

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/24/2006 11:03 PM
Sorry there J&K.....didn't mean to offend you. I'm glad you find sbikes stories very enjoyable.

 
A B & GB from St. Peters, MO on 10/10/2006 01:53 PM
By all means, take extra tubes!!! Just returned from a 4-day trip from Wilton to St. Charles with our Boy Scout troop. Had a GREAT TIME...but we unknowingly rode through some thorns near Tebbetts...didn't see them until we were digging them out of our flat tires... and spent most of the evening patching & changing MANY tires!!! Patching is very time consuming...changing tubes IS much quicker.


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 -  + hey nice to know about trail for horses but where aare the horse camp and how does one avoid the bikes where are therre accomdations for the horse an the person .\\?
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Anonymous on 10/10/2006 03:55 AM
hey nice to know about trail for horses but where aare the horse camp and how does one avoid the bikes where are therre accomdations for the horse an the person .\\?

 
Ray (Webmaster) on 10/10/2006 04:57 AM
The only place with horse accommodations along the trail (that I'm aware of) is Cruces Cabooses, in the Windsor/Calhoun area. They have refurbished train cars where you sleep, a pen for the horses, and a place to build a campfire.



If anyone knows of any other camping or lodging which can accommodate horses, please let us know.


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Del-Amici Restaurant Closed (Sedalia)
 -  + We pulled into Sedalia on rainy April 29th, staying at the Hotel Bothwell, only to find out the hotel's Del-Amici restaurant had closed in mid-April. The person at the front desk said that they were ...
Discussion started 05/04/2006 10:15 PM by Bob Krzewinski - 8 replies (last reply by Jim Pryde at 10/09/2006 05:02 PM)
Bob Krzewinski from Ypsilanti, MI on 05/04/2006 10:15 PM
We pulled into Sedalia on rainy April 29th, staying at the Hotel Bothwell, only to find out the hotel's Del-Amici restaurant had closed in mid-April. The person at the front desk said that they were expecting to open another restaurant in the same space sometime in the future.



With the hotel staff telling us our other close by (walking distance) food options were bar-food, we elected to stay in and order out. In the room was a hotel directory with various restaurants listed that deliver and we settled on a place that delivered Italian.




 
Bob Krzewinski from Ypsilanti, MI on 05/04/2006 10:15 PM
We pulled into Sedalia on rainy April 29th, staying at the Hotel Bothwell, only to find out the hotel's Del-Amici restaurant had closed in mid-April. The person at the front desk said that they were expecting to open another restaurant in the same space sometime in the future.



With the hotel staff telling us our other close by (walking distance) food options were bar-food, we elected to stay in and order out. In the room was a hotel directory with various restaurants listed that deliver and we settled on a place that delivered Italian.




 
Bob Krzewinski from Ypsilanti, MI on 05/04/2006 10:15 PM
We pulled into Sedalia on rainy April 29th, staying at the Hotel Bothwell, only to find out the hotel's Del-Amici restaurant had closed in mid-April. The person at the front desk said that they were expecting to open another restaurant in the same space sometime in the future.



With the hotel staff telling us our other close by (walking distance) food options were bar-food, we elected to stay in and order out. In the room was a hotel directory with various restaurants listed that deliver and we settled on a place that delivered Italian.




 
Bob Krzewinski from Ypsilanti, MI on 05/04/2006 10:15 PM
We pulled into Sedalia on rainy April 29th, staying at the Hotel Bothwell, only to find out the hotel's Del-Amici restaurant had closed in mid-April. The person at the front desk said that they were expecting to open another restaurant in the same space sometime in the future.



With the hotel staff telling us our other close by (walking distance) food options were bar-food, we elected to stay in and order out. In the room was a hotel directory with various restaurants listed that deliver and we settled on a place that delivered Italian.




 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 11:16 AM
Oh, here's the answer to the question I just posted! We were told the same thing about "way too far to walk anywhere" one Sunday, when the restaurant was closed. Everyone said that the nearest restaurants were 3 or 4 miles away. But we thought, "how can that be, in a town the size of Sedalia?" So we set out on foot, and discovered that it was a beautiful walk of no more than a mile, along tree-lined Broadway, with gorgeous historic houses, to a little business section with several restaurants. We had a very nice meal, to the sounds of a marimba band, at the Mexican restaurant. Travelling everywhere by car seems to result in people losing their sense of distance.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 11:16 AM
Oh, here's the answer to the question I just posted! We were told the same thing about "way too far to walk anywhere" one Sunday, when the restaurant was closed. Everyone said that the nearest restaurants were 3 or 4 miles away. But we thought, "how can that be, in a town the size of Sedalia?" So we set out on foot, and discovered that it was a beautiful walk of no more than a mile, along tree-lined Broadway, with gorgeous historic houses, to a little business section with several restaurants. We had a very nice meal, to the sounds of a marimba band, at the Mexican restaurant. Travelling everywhere by car seems to result in people losing their sense of distance.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 11:16 AM
Oh, here's the answer to the question I just posted! We were told the same thing about "way too far to walk anywhere" one Sunday, when the restaurant was closed. Everyone said that the nearest restaurants were 3 or 4 miles away. But we thought, "how can that be, in a town the size of Sedalia?" So we set out on foot, and discovered that it was a beautiful walk of no more than a mile, along tree-lined Broadway, with gorgeous historic houses, to a little business section with several restaurants. We had a very nice meal, to the sounds of a marimba band, at the Mexican restaurant. Travelling everywhere by car seems to result in people losing their sense of distance.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 11:16 AM
Oh, here's the answer to the question I just posted! We were told the same thing about "way too far to walk anywhere" one Sunday, when the restaurant was closed. Everyone said that the nearest restaurants were 3 or 4 miles away. But we thought, "how can that be, in a town the size of Sedalia?" So we set out on foot, and discovered that it was a beautiful walk of no more than a mile, along tree-lined Broadway, with gorgeous historic houses, to a little business section with several restaurants. We had a very nice meal, to the sounds of a marimba band, at the Mexican restaurant. Travelling everywhere by car seems to result in people losing their sense of distance.

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 04:31 PM
Me again--I called the Hotel Bothwell, and they are expecting a new to open May 22--not sure what kind, but supposedly a 5-star establishment. I hope they will cater to Katy Trail users!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 04:31 PM
Me again--I called the Hotel Bothwell, and they are expecting a new to open May 22--not sure what kind, but supposedly a 5-star establishment. I hope they will cater to Katy Trail users!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 04:31 PM
Me again--I called the Hotel Bothwell, and they are expecting a new to open May 22--not sure what kind, but supposedly a 5-star establishment. I hope they will cater to Katy Trail users!

 
ET from Columbia on 05/08/2006 04:31 PM
Me again--I called the Hotel Bothwell, and they are expecting a new to open May 22--not sure what kind, but supposedly a 5-star establishment. I hope they will cater to Katy Trail users!

 
Mark from Sedalia on 05/09/2006 01:48 PM
El Tapatilo is the restaurant you are talking about. Excellent food and usually has entertainment on the weekend. The Sedalia House Bed and Breakfast also caters to KATY Trail cyclists and provides shuttles to all local restaurants. There is a page on the website exclusively for the KATY Trail, and special packages are available.

 
Mark from Sedalia on 05/09/2006 01:48 PM
El Tapatilo is the restaurant you are talking about. Excellent food and usually has entertainment on the weekend. The Sedalia House Bed and Breakfast also caters to KATY Trail cyclists and provides shuttles to all local restaurants. There is a page on the website exclusively for the KATY Trail, and special packages are available.

 
Mark from Sedalia on 05/09/2006 01:48 PM
El Tapatilo is the restaurant you are talking about. Excellent food and usually has entertainment on the weekend. The Sedalia House Bed and Breakfast also caters to KATY Trail cyclists and provides shuttles to all local restaurants. There is a page on the website exclusively for the KATY Trail, and special packages are available.

 
Mark from Sedalia on 05/09/2006 01:48 PM
El Tapatilo is the restaurant you are talking about. Excellent food and usually has entertainment on the weekend. The Sedalia House Bed and Breakfast also caters to KATY Trail cyclists and provides shuttles to all local restaurants. There is a page on the website exclusively for the KATY Trail, and special packages are available.

 
Ray from Eaton, Co. on 06/16/2006 09:46 PM
How are the rooms at the Bothwell?

 
Ray from Eaton, Co. on 06/16/2006 09:46 PM
How are the rooms at the Bothwell?

 
Ray from Eaton, Co. on 06/16/2006 09:46 PM
How are the rooms at the Bothwell?

 
Ray from Eaton, Co. on 06/16/2006 09:46 PM
How are the rooms at the Bothwell?

 
ET from Columbia on 06/20/2006 12:08 PM
Rooms are small (it's an old hotel), but clean and comfortable and attractive. While some people like taking their bikes to tbheir rooms, we would prefer to be able to put ours in a storage area, or even outside, but they really discourage that. This is especially a problem for us, with 4 people and 4 bikes in their family suites, and they did let us put our bikes in the basement this time. They have done that in the past, but are now putting a bar in downstairs. Also, we ate at the new restaurant, The Ivory Grille, and were very happy with the food--delicious herb and cheese biscuits, a good house salad, and a good selection of beef, chicken, pasta and seafood entrees, with a complimentary dessert of a small but tasty serving of cheesecake.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/20/2006 12:08 PM
Rooms are small (it's an old hotel), but clean and comfortable and attractive. While some people like taking their bikes to tbheir rooms, we would prefer to be able to put ours in a storage area, or even outside, but they really discourage that. This is especially a problem for us, with 4 people and 4 bikes in their family suites, and they did let us put our bikes in the basement this time. They have done that in the past, but are now putting a bar in downstairs. Also, we ate at the new restaurant, The Ivory Grille, and were very happy with the food--delicious herb and cheese biscuits, a good house salad, and a good selection of beef, chicken, pasta and seafood entrees, with a complimentary dessert of a small but tasty serving of cheesecake.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/20/2006 12:08 PM
Rooms are small (it's an old hotel), but clean and comfortable and attractive. While some people like taking their bikes to tbheir rooms, we would prefer to be able to put ours in a storage area, or even outside, but they really discourage that. This is especially a problem for us, with 4 people and 4 bikes in their family suites, and they did let us put our bikes in the basement this time. They have done that in the past, but are now putting a bar in downstairs. Also, we ate at the new restaurant, The Ivory Grille, and were very happy with the food--delicious herb and cheese biscuits, a good house salad, and a good selection of beef, chicken, pasta and seafood entrees, with a complimentary dessert of a small but tasty serving of cheesecake.

 
ET from Columbia on 06/20/2006 12:08 PM
Rooms are small (it's an old hotel), but clean and comfortable and attractive. While some people like taking their bikes to tbheir rooms, we would prefer to be able to put ours in a storage area, or even outside, but they really discourage that. This is especially a problem for us, with 4 people and 4 bikes in their family suites, and they did let us put our bikes in the basement this time. They have done that in the past, but are now putting a bar in downstairs. Also, we ate at the new restaurant, The Ivory Grille, and were very happy with the food--delicious herb and cheese biscuits, a good house salad, and a good selection of beef, chicken, pasta and seafood entrees, with a complimentary dessert of a small but tasty serving of cheesecake.

 
pv from Sedalia on 07/11/2006 04:45 PM
The Ivory Grille has replaced Del Amici and is a fabulous upgrade. Open for Lunch and Dinner Tues-Fri, Dinner Sat, and Brunch on Sunday. I live in Sedalia and haven't missed a brunch yet. A true chef, affordable prices.

 
pv from Sedalia on 07/11/2006 04:45 PM
The Ivory Grille has replaced Del Amici and is a fabulous upgrade. Open for Lunch and Dinner Tues-Fri, Dinner Sat, and Brunch on Sunday. I live in Sedalia and haven't missed a brunch yet. A true chef, affordable prices.

 
pv from Sedalia on 07/11/2006 04:45 PM
The Ivory Grille has replaced Del Amici and is a fabulous upgrade. Open for Lunch and Dinner Tues-Fri, Dinner Sat, and Brunch on Sunday. I live in Sedalia and haven't missed a brunch yet. A true chef, affordable prices.

 
pv from Sedalia on 07/11/2006 04:45 PM
The Ivory Grille has replaced Del Amici and is a fabulous upgrade. Open for Lunch and Dinner Tues-Fri, Dinner Sat, and Brunch on Sunday. I live in Sedalia and haven't missed a brunch yet. A true chef, affordable prices.

 
Jim from Oklahoma on 07/14/2006 09:50 PM
We stayed at the Bothwell a few days ago and found it to be very nice and reasonably priced. The plumbing is a bit quirky but is not a problem. The included continental breakfast was better than expected and included biscuits and gravy, self-made waffles, quality coffee and fruit, plus the usual items. Didn't eat at the hotel's restaurant (kinda pricy). Instead stuffed ourselves at a seemingly new and good Mexican restaurant at the intersection of the Katy trail and HWY 65; the HWY is marked on the Katy trail. The hotel is five blocks from the Katy trail train station, best reached on 3rd street.

 
Jim from Oklahoma on 07/14/2006 09:50 PM
We stayed at the Bothwell a few days ago and found it to be very nice and reasonably priced. The plumbing is a bit quirky but is not a problem. The included continental breakfast was better than expected and included biscuits and gravy, self-made waffles, quality coffee and fruit, plus the usual items. Didn't eat at the hotel's restaurant (kinda pricy). Instead stuffed ourselves at a seemingly new and good Mexican restaurant at the intersection of the Katy trail and HWY 65; the HWY is marked on the Katy trail. The hotel is five blocks from the Katy trail train station, best reached on 3rd street.

 
Jim from Oklahoma on 07/14/2006 09:50 PM
We stayed at the Bothwell a few days ago and found it to be very nice and reasonably priced. The plumbing is a bit quirky but is not a problem. The included continental breakfast was better than expected and included biscuits and gravy, self-made waffles, quality coffee and fruit, plus the usual items. Didn't eat at the hotel's restaurant (kinda pricy). Instead stuffed ourselves at a seemingly new and good Mexican restaurant at the intersection of the Katy trail and HWY 65; the HWY is marked on the Katy trail. The hotel is five blocks from the Katy trail train station, best reached on 3rd street.

 
Jim from Oklahoma on 07/14/2006 09:50 PM
We stayed at the Bothwell a few days ago and found it to be very nice and reasonably priced. The plumbing is a bit quirky but is not a problem. The included continental breakfast was better than expected and included biscuits and gravy, self-made waffles, quality coffee and fruit, plus the usual items. Didn't eat at the hotel's restaurant (kinda pricy). Instead stuffed ourselves at a seemingly new and good Mexican restaurant at the intersection of the Katy trail and HWY 65; the HWY is marked on the Katy trail. The hotel is five blocks from the Katy trail train station, best reached on 3rd street.

 
Jim Pryde from Sedalia, MO on 10/09/2006 05:02 PM
The Mexican restaurant mentioned by the previous poster is El Espolon, and it is fabulous. Although I think the food at El Tapatio is a little better, the price and atmosphere at El Espolon is preferable.



I have yet to try the Ivory Grille, because Del Amici was our favorite restaurant in town. We hated to see it close. It was expensive, but the service was always excellent and we loved the food.


 
Jim Pryde from Sedalia, MO on 10/09/2006 05:02 PM
The Mexican restaurant mentioned by the previous poster is El Espolon, and it is fabulous. Although I think the food at El Tapatio is a little better, the price and atmosphere at El Espolon is preferable.



I have yet to try the Ivory Grille, because Del Amici was our favorite restaurant in town. We hated to see it close. It was expensive, but the service was always excellent and we loved the food.


 
Jim Pryde from Sedalia, MO on 10/09/2006 05:02 PM
The Mexican restaurant mentioned by the previous poster is El Espolon, and it is fabulous. Although I think the food at El Tapatio is a little better, the price and atmosphere at El Espolon is preferable.



I have yet to try the Ivory Grille, because Del Amici was our favorite restaurant in town. We hated to see it close. It was expensive, but the service was always excellent and we loved the food.


 
Jim Pryde from Sedalia, MO on 10/09/2006 05:02 PM
The Mexican restaurant mentioned by the previous poster is El Espolon, and it is fabulous. Although I think the food at El Tapatio is a little better, the price and atmosphere at El Espolon is preferable.



I have yet to try the Ivory Grille, because Del Amici was our favorite restaurant in town. We hated to see it close. It was expensive, but the service was always excellent and we loved the food.


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