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Any problems doing this....
 -  + We wil be spending the night in Boonville at the Comfort Inn. The casino shuttle does pick up guests and take them to the casino/casino buffet. Would it be awful if we took the shuttle to the casino...
Discussion started 09/26/2006 08:21 PM - 2 replies (last reply by Psychlist at 09/26/2006 09:51 PM)
Anonymous on 09/26/2006 08:21 PM
We wil be spending the night in Boonville at the Comfort Inn. The casino shuttle does pick up guests and take them to the casino/casino buffet. Would it be awful if we took the shuttle to the casino but then walked up to Main St to a different restaurant?

 
Wayne from OH on 09/26/2006 09:47 PM
It is your conscience, we chose not to take advantage of it. There are taxies that will take care of your needs. The lady behind the desk offered to allow us to ride into town with her husband then find our own way back.



Expect to pay a "bicycle fee" at this hotel.

 
Psychlist from St Louis on 09/26/2006 09:51 PM
If you read through this forum, you'll see LOTS of bad reviews of Capri's buffet, and nobody has much good to say about it. Take the shuttle bus, eat at a GOOD restaurant, and drop a few bucks into Capri's slot machines if you feel guilty.


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Stoneridge Vineyard Farm & Inn (Augusta)
 -  + Our stay here was amazing. After arriving in Augusta we had dinner at the brewery. We had know idea were the Stoneridge Vineyard was so we called. John the owner picked us up and brought us to the B...
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Rob H. from Effinham IL on 09/26/2006 02:56 PM
Our stay here was amazing. After arriving in Augusta we had dinner at the brewery. We had know idea were the Stoneridge Vineyard was so we called. John the owner picked us up and brought us to the B&B. We were greeted by Carol who showed us to our spectacular room. The view was amazing and should be even better later in October. That morning after breakfast (which was great) John brought us back to the trail head in Augusta. (Great first B&B experience)

 
Rob H. from Effinham IL on 09/26/2006 02:56 PM
Our stay here was amazing. After arriving in Augusta we had dinner at the brewery. We had know idea were the Stoneridge Vineyard was so we called. John the owner picked us up and brought us to the B&B. We were greeted by Carol who showed us to our spectacular room. The view was amazing and should be even better later in October. That morning after breakfast (which was great) John brought us back to the trail head in Augusta. (Great first B&B experience)


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Connection to Trans-Am
 -  + I would like some local input on possible connections to the Trans-America trail.

Specifically, I was planning on starting in Springfield, and heading north on the bike trail that runs to Willa...
Discussion started 09/25/2006 11:24 AM by Rick - 3 replies (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 09/26/2006 01:41 PM)
Rick from Wichita on 09/25/2006 11:24 AM
I would like some local input on possible connections to the Trans-America trail.



Specifically, I was planning on starting in Springfield, and heading north on the bike trail that runs to Willard, then finding a way to connect to 13 highway to Clinton. I am unsure of traffic and highway conditions. Is this the best route north?



After riding the KATY, I want to find a route south to connect with the Trans-America trail. How about Highway 61 south out of St. Louis? This would take me to St. Mary where the Trans-Am passes by.



Thanks for your help

 
J&K from Drexel MO on 09/25/2006 02:32 PM
We rode on the Frisco Highline Trail 9-18-06 from Bolivar to where the bridge is out. Its to bad the bridge is not yet repaired, you could get all the way to Bolivar on rails/trail. We did notice how nice the shoulder is on most of hwy.13. With the exception of about 12 miles between Humansville and Collins, it is now all four lane highway. The shoulder did look a little rough on some sections where the north bound lanes are the old highway. There was also some construction on one of the bridges over Truman Lake, that would be the tricky part. Good luck and hope this helped.

 
Rick from Wichita on 09/25/2006 06:33 PM
Thanks for the rapid responce, J+K...



Our trip will be next year, so I hope the bridge will be repaired by then. I appriciate the local knowledge, and I will probably take the route you suggest.



Does anyone from the St. Louis side have any info on a southern route from KATY? Looking at my map it seems like highway 61 will connect to Trans-Am in St. Mary. Also, highway 21 near Pilot Knob. Would one of these routes be the best one?? Any other ideas??



Thanks.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/26/2006 01:41 PM
Rick, There are a few established routes to take you south from the St Louis area. Try the Mississippi River Trail (MRT), which parallels the river either north or south from St Louis, as you might guess by the name. the MRT has routes on both the Missouri side (http://www.mississippirivertrail.org/mrt-explore-mo.php#segment1) and Illinois side (http://www.mississippirivertrail.org/mrt-explore-il.php). Another option is Adventure Cycling's Great Rivers route (http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes/greatrivers.cfm?pg=detail&s=1), which appears to cross the Katy Trail somewhere around Marthasville.

I can't vouch for the quality of any of the above routes, but presumably they have been well tested out.

Good luck and enjoy your tour!



J&K, Speaking of the Frisco Highline Trail, I understand that bridge was burned down by vandals - it's a $%#@ shame.


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Trailside Cafe & Bike Shop (Rocheport)
 -  + These people are wonderful. They helped me with a bike I was sold from Bike America - Trailside sold the same bike for less than Bike America and it didn't fit my body at all, so it was very uncomfort...
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Sharon on 09/26/2006 12:34 PM
These people are wonderful. They helped me with a bike I was sold from Bike America - Trailside sold the same bike for less than Bike America and it didn't fit my body at all, so it was very uncomfortable. Bike America couldn't have cared less when I tried to talk to them about it....

Just as I was ready to give up on biking, the mgr., Andy, introduced me to a recumbent bike and I loved it. I ended up buying my recumbent from them and am so glad I did! The staff is very, very knowledgeable and helpful. They're always friendly and helpful. All my family's future bikes will come from Trailside.

The food in the cafe is very good too. It's one of the places you must stop at along the trail - you'll be glad you did.

 
Sharon on 09/26/2006 12:34 PM
These people are wonderful. They helped me with a bike I was sold from Bike America - Trailside sold the same bike for less than Bike America and it didn't fit my body at all, so it was very uncomfortable. Bike America couldn't have cared less when I tried to talk to them about it....

Just as I was ready to give up on biking, the mgr., Andy, introduced me to a recumbent bike and I loved it. I ended up buying my recumbent from them and am so glad I did! The staff is very, very knowledgeable and helpful. They're always friendly and helpful. All my family's future bikes will come from Trailside.

The food in the cafe is very good too. It's one of the places you must stop at along the trail - you'll be glad you did.


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Cycling
 -  + My wife and I rode the trail first week of September. One of our favorite all-time tours. Theindependenttourist.com did a great job for us lining it all out, reservations, etc. 25 - 28 mm tires pro...
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Jerry from Longview, Texas on 09/26/2006 12:29 PM
My wife and I rode the trail first week of September. One of our favorite all-time tours. Theindependenttourist.com did a great job for us lining it all out, reservations, etc. 25 - 28 mm tires prove to be perfect. We'll be back. "J"


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best eats
 -  + What do you recommend for nice dinner places for a bus trip - we will be staying in Booville, Hartsburg, and Herman.
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anne from Wichita on 09/25/2006 06:53 PM
What do you recommend for nice dinner places for a bus trip - we will be staying in Booville, Hartsburg, and Herman.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/25/2006 09:20 PM
From Boonville.....I'd have the driver take us to Rocheport to visit the bistro at the Les Bourgeois Winery. Fantastic view, great food, and good wine....and it is only a few miles drive (12 to 14 or so).



In Hartsburg, the local flavor of Dotties would be at the top of the list. Just darn good food in a friendly small town atmosphere.



In Hermann I'd toss a coin for Simon's on the Waterfront or the Vintage Restaurant at Stone Hill Winery. Both have very good food. The tour and tasting at Stone Hill is worth the stop and its right next door to the restaurant.

 
GC from Columbia, Mo. on 09/26/2006 07:08 AM
In Boonville, It would be Glenn's handsdown. The bistro in Rocheport is great, too, but truth be told, it was inspired originally by Glenn's when that restaurant was in Columbia.

In Hartsburg, Dotties is great and is just about the only game in town.

In Hermann, I agree, Simon's or the Vintage, but if you are talking about going to wineries, I would have to add Adam Puchta

 
Jerry from Longview, Texas on 09/26/2006 12:26 PM
Just cycled the trail --- no question --- in Boonville -- Napoli. In Hartsburg, Dottie's. In Hermann -- do wine and cheese at the Hermannhof right downtown. If you need more dinner, try the Stonehill German restaurant at the winery. Nice. "J"


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Walking the Katy Trail
 -  + In mid- to late October, I'd like to walk from St. Charles to about Pilot Grove, carrying very little--just walking and looking. I'm planning to make no plans, so I'd just find places to eat or to bu...
Discussion started 09/25/2006 08:53 PM by glw - 1 reply (last reply by GC at 09/26/2006 07:26 AM)
glw from Morro Bay, CA on 09/25/2006 08:53 PM
In mid- to late October, I'd like to walk from St. Charles to about Pilot Grove, carrying very little--just walking and looking. I'm planning to make no plans, so I'd just find places to eat or to buy trail food or to sleep (not camp) as I meander along. Am I letting myself in for trouble? georgekastner@hotmail.com

 
GC from Columbia, Mo. on 09/26/2006 07:26 AM
Glw,

Good for you! I just finished walking from Clinton to McKittrick -- the same distance from St. Charles to Pilot Grove -- earlier this month.



I hate to tell you, but planning is important.



One thing you will run into is the need for consistent water. Lots of the trailheads don't have water and you have to either get it from one of the stores or bars along the trail. The problem with that can be that these stores aren't always open. The same with food. As for lodging, during October weekends, everything is pretty well booked in the Hermann area, I imagine. Once you leave the St. Charles area, the small town businesses keep somewhat irregular hours, especially during weekdays.



One way to get around this is to have a support crew. Will you have someone following you in a car or meeting you every few days? I know I am planning to do the last stretch of the trail in another month or two, and that is my strategy.



I am not trying to be a downer, and I had a ball during my walk, but you HAVE to do some planning. While the Katy is not in the middle of raw wilderness, you can't really just set out on foot and expect lots of options for food, water and lodging.



Having said all of that, have a great walk!



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Huntsdale/John Sam Williamson
 -  + I'm looking at the June 1990 National Geographic which features a Greenways "Path to the Future" article. A photo of J S W'mson is included. He is protesting the proposed Katy Trail with the quote, ...
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Airin from Madisonville, KY on 09/25/2006 07:13 PM
I'm looking at the June 1990 National Geographic which features a Greenways "Path to the Future" article. A photo of J S W'mson is included. He is protesting the proposed Katy Trail with the quote, "Recreation shouldn't be at the expense of the landowner. This is where we make our living; this is our home." (2 miles of the KATY railroad bisects the family farm). Is this the same W'mson of the famed burr oak? When did he change his mind and how did the transformation come about?

I'm curious because here in Kentucky we have a few RTT routes, but nothing remotely resembling the near border to border KATY. In Western KY we missed out on acquiring the land when the railroad disbanded, but it went into the private sector. Now that we are organized, we will be trying to win over landowner's minds...a tough task ahead. i would appreciate any comments.

I rode the KATY last year and was wowed...great camping, funky b&b, interesting people and wild times.


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Hats off
 -  + to the state of Missouri and it's tax payers. The Katy Trail is a State Park to be proud of. My wife and I finished our West to East trip on Sunday afternoon. Our experience was wonderful, we also att...
Discussion started 09/05/2006 08:51 PM by Wayne aka Flint - 5 replies (last reply by anonymous at 09/25/2006 08:28 AM)
Wayne aka Flint from OH on 09/05/2006 08:51 PM
to the state of Missouri and it's tax payers. The Katy Trail is a State Park to be proud of. My wife and I finished our West to East trip on Sunday afternoon. Our experience was wonderful, we also attempted to do our part to support the local economy :-) . There were definately parts of the trail that were more "chamber of Commerce" than others but overall the trail was in fantastic shape. Though not all trailheads provide water we found 99% of them to be clean and well cared for. The info boards are also a great way to learn about the history of the trail and area. This site was also a great aid in planning the trip and has spoiled me as far as trip planning goes.



Thanks again to the DNR and the webmaster for a wonderful vacation.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/07/2006 08:39 PM
I don't mind that some of my tax dollars go to the DNR or the Missouri Department of Conservation one little bit! We use the trail every chance we get and are proud that it is there for us and our neighbors to use.



No....it's not a perfect world or a perfect trail though. Labor Day weekend there was some nice cracks, fault lines or something west of McKittrick. They weren't there earlier in the summer and probably won't be there forever. Other parts of the trail are very pristine. The DNR, in my book, does a very good job for the miles of trail that they maintain.



Ray does a fantastic job with this website too. It is literally a wealth of information about the Katy. Maybe you've thought of branching out with sites like this for other trails Ray??

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/07/2006 10:18 PM
I agree - kudos to the DNR for the fantastic job they do in running the Katy Trail. It's a real treasure for Missouri.

Thank you for the compliments on the website. To answer your question, Trek Biker - I run two other websites, but BikeKatyTrail is definitely the biggie.

I also run BikeGrantsTrail.com, which covers Grant's Trail in suburban St Louis. This paved rail-trail goes past many interesting sights such as the Budweiser Clydesdale barns and pastures, Grant's Farm animal park (free beer samples from Anheuser Busch!), President Ulysses Grant's home, a couple of old cemeteries, and more... all in less than 8 miles. It's a much simpler website than BikeKatyTrail, for a much smaller (but busier) trail.

I also really like Sanibel Island, Florida, so I built SanibelTrails.com to cover the 25 miles of bike trails on this little island. The island is networked with bike paths, making two wheels the best way to get around bewteen the beaches, hotels, and attractions. It's got to be one of the most bike-friendly islands in the country.

Between these three websites, I've got my hands pretty full. But if anyone knows of any other trails that would be a perfect candidate for a fresh new website, drop me a line.

Thanks for asking!

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 09/08/2006 08:37 AM
Ray, I just checked out your Sanibel site.....it's great. My wife and I have been going to Captiva for years and have always been impressed with the Sanibel bike trails. I've heard talk recently of extending the trail up through Captiva.

 
condean from Council Bluffs IA on 09/18/2006 09:15 PM
i agree, this is a great website!!

It was a great tool, and it made I was able to gain enough info to convince my hubby to to the trip. He loved it as much as me... We Will Be Back!!!!!!

 
Anonymous on 09/25/2006 08:28 AM
I agree, what a great trail and this website is extremely helpful.


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Katy Bike Rental (Defiance)
 -  + Very nice shop! One of the only bike shops that I found open between Jeff City & St. Charles. Prices on tubes was high ($5 each...typically $2.50 or $3 for my bike), but I was willing to pay price. ...
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:21 PM
Very nice shop! One of the only bike shops that I found open between Jeff City & St. Charles. Prices on tubes was high ($5 each...typically $2.50 or $3 for my bike), but I was willing to pay price. Located right next to trail.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:21 PM
Very nice shop! One of the only bike shops that I found open between Jeff City & St. Charles. Prices on tubes was high ($5 each...typically $2.50 or $3 for my bike), but I was willing to pay price. Located right next to trail.


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Matson Station (Matson)
 -  + Went by on a Saturday morning. Only had soda vending machine & bike pump outside. Was hoping to find someone to get change, but was out of luck.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:19 PM
Went by on a Saturday morning. Only had soda vending machine & bike pump outside. Was hoping to find someone to get change, but was out of luck.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:19 PM
Went by on a Saturday morning. Only had soda vending machine & bike pump outside. Was hoping to find someone to get change, but was out of luck.


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Scenic Cycles (Marthasville)
 -  + Stopped by on a Saturday morning only to discover store was closed. Found out in the next town that store closed down. I was looking forward to the New Orleans Snowball.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:13 PM
Stopped by on a Saturday morning only to discover store was closed. Found out in the next town that store closed down. I was looking forward to the New Orleans Snowball.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:13 PM
Stopped by on a Saturday morning only to discover store was closed. Found out in the next town that store closed down. I was looking forward to the New Orleans Snowball.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:15 PM
Sorry, got this place mixed up with Augusta Bicycle. Scenic Cycles appears to still be in business, but only on the weekend.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:15 PM
Sorry, got this place mixed up with Augusta Bicycle. Scenic Cycles appears to still be in business, but only on the weekend.


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Treloar Bar & Grill (Treloar)
 -  + Nice place to eat. Stopped after long day of riding. Friendly people who helped my uncle and I find lodging in nearby town.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:11 PM
Nice place to eat. Stopped after long day of riding. Friendly people who helped my uncle and I find lodging in nearby town.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:11 PM
Nice place to eat. Stopped after long day of riding. Friendly people who helped my uncle and I find lodging in nearby town.


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Riverfront Bar & Grill (Portland)
 -  + Very friendly! After failing to find a place open on the trail, this place had their doors open. Good Food!
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:06 PM
Very friendly! After failing to find a place open on the trail, this place had their doors open. Good Food!

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:06 PM
Very friendly! After failing to find a place open on the trail, this place had their doors open. Good Food!


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Terry's Suds and Grub (Steedman)
 -  + Had high hopes to stopping here for lunch, but they weren't open. Found out later down the trail that finding this place open is hit or miss. The Riverfrong Bar & Grill in Portland is a better bet f...
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:04 PM
Had high hopes to stopping here for lunch, but they weren't open. Found out later down the trail that finding this place open is hit or miss. The Riverfrong Bar & Grill in Portland is a better bet for being open.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:04 PM
Had high hopes to stopping here for lunch, but they weren't open. Found out later down the trail that finding this place open is hit or miss. The Riverfrong Bar & Grill in Portland is a better bet for being open.


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Mokane Market (Mokane)
 -  + Small town with nothing to really offer bikers. Market has small groceries, but no biking accessories. Don't recommend making this a primary stop.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:02 PM
Small town with nothing to really offer bikers. Market has small groceries, but no biking accessories. Don't recommend making this a primary stop.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 08:02 PM
Small town with nothing to really offer bikers. Market has small groceries, but no biking accessories. Don't recommend making this a primary stop.


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Dotty's Cafe (Hartsburg)
 -  + A nice 50's style dinner. Great place to eat if Hartsburg is one of your stops.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:57 PM
A nice 50's style dinner. Great place to eat if Hartsburg is one of your stops.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:57 PM
A nice 50's style dinner. Great place to eat if Hartsburg is one of your stops.


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Hartsburg Inn (Hartsburg)
 -  + Very accommodating. Called one hour before arriving. Room had tv, microfridge w/juice & yogurt, patio to cover bikes & plenty of space.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:55 PM
Very accommodating. Called one hour before arriving. Room had tv, microfridge w/juice & yogurt, patio to cover bikes & plenty of space.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:55 PM
Very accommodating. Called one hour before arriving. Room had tv, microfridge w/juice & yogurt, patio to cover bikes & plenty of space.


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Riverside Diner (Boonville)
 -  + Great stop for a meal. Located right on trail before you cross over the bridge in Boonville. Highly recommend.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:53 PM
Great stop for a meal. Located right on trail before you cross over the bridge in Boonville. Highly recommend.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:53 PM
Great stop for a meal. Located right on trail before you cross over the bridge in Boonville. Highly recommend.


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Missouri State Fairgrounds (Sedalia)
 -  + Camped out in a tent the first night of my ride. Had hot showers and running water. Not a bad deal for $7 a tent.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:51 PM
Camped out in a tent the first night of my ride. Had hot showers and running water. Not a bad deal for $7 a tent.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:51 PM
Camped out in a tent the first night of my ride. Had hot showers and running water. Not a bad deal for $7 a tent.


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Country Kitchen (Sedalia)
 -  + Ate breakfast after staying at state fair grounds. Somewhat off the trail, but easily accessable from trail through side roads.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:50 PM
Ate breakfast after staying at state fair grounds. Somewhat off the trail, but easily accessable from trail through side roads.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:50 PM
Ate breakfast after staying at state fair grounds. Somewhat off the trail, but easily accessable from trail through side roads.


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Caseys General Store (Windsor)
 -  + Have free air compressor for your bike tires. Filled up my water bottle for free. Very close to trail.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:48 PM
Have free air compressor for your bike tires. Filled up my water bottle for free. Very close to trail.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:48 PM
Have free air compressor for your bike tires. Filled up my water bottle for free. Very close to trail.


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Clinton Mower & Saw Shop (Clinton)
 -  + Very friendly people. Doesn't look like they carry bikes or biking accessories, but they do. I bought two tubes.
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JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:47 PM
Very friendly people. Doesn't look like they carry bikes or biking accessories, but they do. I bought two tubes.

 
JD from Joplin on 09/24/2006 07:47 PM
Very friendly people. Doesn't look like they carry bikes or biking accessories, but they do. I bought two tubes.


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How come so many flats?
 -  + Hmmm... There seems to be a lot of comments about multiple flat tires when riding the trail. What's causing these flats and why do some folks seem to get them but others not at all?
Discussion started 09/21/2006 01:56 PM by Wilson - 6 replies (last reply by Wilson at 09/24/2006 06:31 PM)
Wilson from Santa Barbara on 09/21/2006 01:56 PM
Hmmm... There seems to be a lot of comments about multiple flat tires when riding the trail. What's causing these flats and why do some folks seem to get them but others not at all?

 
Xavier from Sunset Hills on 09/22/2006 09:24 AM
Great question. I have also read many comments about taking a spare and fix a flat. I was also wondering the same thing. Thanks for asking.

 
Anonymous on 09/22/2006 10:53 AM
Here is some good info about tires for the trail:

http://www.bikekatytrail.com/tires.asp

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/22/2006 11:14 AM
That is apparently one of the many mysteries of the Katy. We have ridden many miles, between Sedalia and Treloar, and have not had a flat tire one. Our bike tires are 26 x 1.95 and 700 x 28 (to 35)C…..nothing special……no super duper high dollar steel/Kevlar/kryptonite belted radials.



Although we have not had any flats, I carry a very small package of stick-on patches, a pump, and one spare tube of each size just in case. Traveling with more than that is overkill for us. Stick on patches are quick and easy to apply and do not require unreleasing a wheel to remove a tube. And…..yes they do work well when applied properly. If you don’t know what you’re doing….a patch of any kind or removing a wheel axle to slide a tube past won’t work well for you.


 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/22/2006 10:07 PM
The Trail is out in the world of nature and there are sometimes sharp, pointy things in

nature. I ride tires about an inch wide that are Kevlar belted and haven't had many flats. But,

one of the flats I had was out in the middle of nowhere where I ran over this HUGE

thorn....another time I had a flat becuase of just a bad tube. In neither case would a patch kit

of helped...the thorn tear was too big and the bad tube split right close to the valve stem. If I

had not had spare tubes and a pump both times, I would have been walking. I have seen

folks along the Trail with flats because they are riding road bikes with road bike slicks. And,

sometimes, flats just happen. Better to be prepared with a spare tube ... unless you just

enjoy walking your bike...

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2006 09:56 AM
The vines that tend to crawl over the trail (have no idea of their name)do have thorns, so be careful and avoid riding over them if possible.

 
Wilson from Santa Barbara on 09/24/2006 06:31 PM
Wow, thanks for all the great advice and direction!


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Any info on Hwy 13 between the Warrensburg Amtrak station and Clinton?
 -  + Fellow Bikies,

We'd appreciate any info/comments regarding Hwy 13 between the Warrensburg Amtrak station and Clinton. The MO bikemap shows at least some shoulder on parts of it, but it would b...
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Fellow Bikies,



We'd appreciate any info/comments regarding Hwy 13 between the Warrensburg Amtrak station and Clinton. The MO bikemap shows at least some shoulder on parts of it, but it would be great to hear from folks who have first-hand knowledge.



Thanks,



Wilson Hubbell

 
savage24 from KC,MO on 09/23/2006 12:44 AM
Don't do it!

See this thread for an alternate route provided by my friend Barbara from Warrensburg:

http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=101

 
sbikes from Kansas City on 09/23/2006 01:07 PM
Ditto what savage24 says. Traffic is fast, they aren't used to seeing bikes, no real shoulder to

speak of and last time I drove it (in the last few weeks) there was lots of construction, lane

closures, heavy equipment, etc.

 
Wilson from Santa Barbara on 09/24/2006 06:28 PM
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Thanks for the advice and direction re: Hwy 13 between Warrensburg and Clinton. We've amended our plans so we can stay clear of it...



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 -  + Glenn's Cafe, formerly in Columbia, is now open in Boonville! Great food and lots of it! The restaurant is located about 50 feet off the trail in the old Frederick Hotel at the foot of the Boonville B...
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GC from Columbia, Mo. on 09/23/2006 11:58 PM
Glenn's Cafe, formerly in Columbia, is now open in Boonville! Great food and lots of it! The restaurant is located about 50 feet off the trail in the old Frederick Hotel at the foot of the Boonville Bridge. It is somewhat upscale casual, but I would compare it favorably to any of the nicer restaurants along the trail.

Hopefully, there will be a listing under the Boonville section soon with all the details. Right now, I believe they are only open for dinner, and are closed on Sundays, but lunch can't be too far away. This is a big plus for Boonville! Now, if they can get the Frederick Hotel rooms finished, it will be a great overnight stop.


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Can we do the KT with Road Bikes?
 -  + My wife and I have been training for a century for Team in Training. We have been doing 40-60 miles at a time, but all on the road. We want to do the KT but reading some of the comments here, it app...
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My wife and I have been training for a century for Team in Training. We have been doing 40-60 miles at a time, but all on the road. We want to do the KT but reading some of the comments here, it appears we may not want to attempt the trail from St. Charles to Hermann with road bikes. Can anyone recommend from experience what they would do in order to enjoy the trail on road bikes?

 
Austin from Longmont, CO on 09/21/2006 06:43 PM
You should be fine on the road bikes, some friends and I rode from Washington to Sedalia on our road bikes without any problems. We did use 700x25 tires though.




 
Jim Pearson from Lincoln, Nebraska on 09/22/2006 01:31 PM
Last year in September my wife and I did the Katy Trail from St. Charles to Clinton. We used our road bikes with saddle bags and supplies for 5 days, this year on Oct l- 6th we are doing it again from Clinton to St. Charles. I would suggest mountain bikes, I had several flats because of the tires on the road bikes, also we did run into some soft trails by Boonville and regreted not having the mountain bikes. This year we are using mountain bikes, also we feel they are more stable with heavy saddle bags on both sides. Either way, the ride is great, the trail is the best and the sites are very enjoyable. Good luck.

 
Damon from Kansas City, Missouri on 09/23/2006 09:03 PM
Hello Jim, a couple of friends any myself did a 175 mile ride and we were all using roadies. Besided 1 flat tire it worked out extremely well. I would suggest getting a good pair of Thorn Resistant tubes like the Slime tubes and running nothing smaller than a 700x25 tire which is what we were all using. It even rained almost the entire first day of our ride and we had no problems with the skinny slicks. I always hear people talk on here like they sink to their hubs or something crazy like that on the trail but I can tell you from an all day slow soaking rain, we didn't experience anything like that. I had a seatpost rack with a big trunk bag ontop of it and a friend of mine had full paniers completely loaded on his. Yes the bikes seem more unstable with that weight on the rear compared to that set-up on a heavy mtn bike frame, but it never posed a problem. I would definately recommend using your roadies for the trail, espcially if you are like me and just find yourself more comfortable on it. Then if you decide to bike off the trail in the towns and such, you have the perfect set-up to do so. We bikes all over the town of Hermann and New Franklin and rididng those miles on the road just looking around was really nice to have our roadies. Hope this was helpful and enjoy your ride!!


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 -  + Bikers - we still have rooms available for 2006. We have 2 Luxury Suites with a private entrance. Each room has a queen bed and sofa sleeper, private bath with shower for two. Kitchen area includes ...
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Bikers - we still have rooms available for 2006. We have 2 Luxury Suites with a private entrance. Each room has a queen bed and sofa sleeper, private bath with shower for two. Kitchen area includes a small refridgator, wine cooler, microwave, coffee maker, toaster and best of all a washer and dryer. Ask about the Katy Trail Special which includes room and continental breakfast. Enjoy the trail and Augusta at the 1857 Inn. For more information please call 636-228-4234.


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 -  + We are a family of four. Novices without spandex ect. We ride short 6 to 10 mile rides around Maryville. Was wondering if we would be in over our heads riding from Mokane to McKittrick.
Discussion started 09/17/2006 10:38 AM by bearcat84 - 4 replies (last reply by runnergirl at 09/21/2006 12:38 PM)
bearcat84 from Maryville Mo on 09/17/2006 10:38 AM
We are a family of four. Novices without spandex ect. We ride short 6 to 10 mile rides around Maryville. Was wondering if we would be in over our heads riding from Mokane to McKittrick.

 
frank from festus on 09/17/2006 02:33 PM
bearcat84, it appears to be only bouts 25 miles one way. take plenty of water, some snacks, and i don't see a problem at all. happy bikin

 
Missouri Joe from O'Fallon, MO on 09/17/2006 06:07 PM
Thats hard to answer without knowing more about your family. For me a 52 year-old, 20 miles is a good ride and 30 is quite the work out.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/17/2006 10:52 PM
I'd keep in mind that the distance from Mokane to McKittrick is twice to four times what you are used to riding about the 'ville. Rolling resistance is somewhat greater on the Katy than it is on the town streets. Unless you are visiting someone in either of those towns, I'd consider getting on the trail at Rocheport and riding towards McBaine and back. It's about nine miles from Rocheport to McBain. There are some neat things to see along there that may be of interest to the family......a tunnel to ride thru, an old amunitions bunker, a cave, petroglyphs, stately limestone bluffs, etc. A portion of this ride parallels, with close proximity to, the river also. Rocheport also has a nice bike shop with a family oriented resturant.



The advantage of "spandex" is the padding in the shorts....not the spandex itself. If as a general rule....your family rumps get along well with the bike seats, you'll be fine without spandex. My need for the padding within usually hits at around the 35 mile mark the first day. Enjoy the ride....from a fellow Bearcat '84 & '90.

 
runnergirl from Olathe on 09/21/2006 12:38 PM
I would second the route recommendation. We did this route in July with a 10 year old and 12 year old and it was perfect. Lots to look at a little challenge. Park at the trailhead in Rocheport and head west to the tunnel then come back east to McBaine.


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 -  + To Trek Biker St. Joseph (or anyone else), are you sure that its overnight parking? I have seen quite a few parking places along the trail but a lot do not allow overnight.
Discussion started 09/19/2006 08:11 PM - 1 reply (last reply by Trek Biker at 09/21/2006 11:39 AM)
Anonymous on 09/19/2006 08:11 PM
To Trek Biker St. Joseph (or anyone else), are you sure that its overnight parking? I have seen quite a few parking places along the trail but a lot do not allow overnight.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/21/2006 11:39 AM


Email from DNR about overnite parking:



Overnight parking at a trailhead would be at your own risk as the trail is patrolled only during daylight hours. You may wish to contact the area sheriff's office to let them know you will be leaving your vehicle there, so that they do not question it.



Angie Even

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P.O. Box 176, Jefferson City, MO 65102

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Missouri's state parks and historic sites are funded primarily by the one-tenth-of-one-percent parks-and-soils sales tax. The tax was first approved by Missouri voters in 1984 and renewed by voters in 1988, 1996 and 2006.



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 -  + Is there overnight parking at this location? Please respond to jkinney@metrotilekc.com.

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Is there overnight parking at this location? Please respond to jkinney@metrotilekc.com.



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Is there overnight parking at this location? Please respond to jkinney@metrotilekc.com.



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Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/19/2006 01:54 PM
Can you tell me if there is overnight parking available in Dutow? We are trying to plan a trip to McKittrick and don't want to get our vehicle towed.

- posted 9/18/2006 7:08:44 PM by john kinney , leawood, kansas



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There is ample parking at the trailhead in Dutzow.

- posted 9/18/2006 9:41:37 PM by Trek Biker , St. Joseph, MO



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We are doing the reverse of you :) How do you getacross the bridge into Herman? That road is way to fast.

- posted 9/18/2006 11:41:04 PM by tammy , wright city



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Many of the B&B's will shuttle you from Hermann to McKittrick...check with who you are staying with as they may already have you covered.



Many warn not to ride the bridge in Jefferson City and Hermann. We have ridden both and found them not to be as bad as the thermal runaway crowd might want you to think. If you are a novice....the Hermann bridge may not be for you. If you are accustomed to riding in or near traffic.....time your entry onto the bridge with little or no traffic behind you. The Hermann locals seem to be accomodating.

- posted 9/19/2006 8:43:55 AM by Trek Biker , St. Joseph, MO


 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/19/2006 01:54 PM
Can you tell me if there is overnight parking available in Dutow? We are trying to plan a trip to McKittrick and don't want to get our vehicle towed.

- posted 9/18/2006 7:08:44 PM by john kinney , leawood, kansas



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There is ample parking at the trailhead in Dutzow.

- posted 9/18/2006 9:41:37 PM by Trek Biker , St. Joseph, MO



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We are doing the reverse of you :) How do you getacross the bridge into Herman? That road is way to fast.

- posted 9/18/2006 11:41:04 PM by tammy , wright city



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Many of the B&B's will shuttle you from Hermann to McKittrick...check with who you are staying with as they may already have you covered.



Many warn not to ride the bridge in Jefferson City and Hermann. We have ridden both and found them not to be as bad as the thermal runaway crowd might want you to think. If you are a novice....the Hermann bridge may not be for you. If you are accustomed to riding in or near traffic.....time your entry onto the bridge with little or no traffic behind you. The Hermann locals seem to be accomodating.

- posted 9/19/2006 8:43:55 AM by Trek Biker , St. Joseph, MO


 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/20/2006 09:52 AM
I just spoke with the Department of Natural Resources, and they said that overnight parking is allowed at all trailheads. They suggested that if you will be gone for several days, you may want to let local law enforcement know about your car as a courtesy. That way they won't suspect that it is stolen or abandoned. As long as you're on the state's trailhead parking lots, and not on any private business's lot, you should be fine.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/20/2006 09:52 AM
I just spoke with the Department of Natural Resources, and they said that overnight parking is allowed at all trailheads. They suggested that if you will be gone for several days, you may want to let local law enforcement know about your car as a courtesy. That way they won't suspect that it is stolen or abandoned. As long as you're on the state's trailhead parking lots, and not on any private business's lot, you should be fine.


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 -  + We have been goint to Boonville since they opened and have always enjoyed there buffet but the last year it has been very poor with quality and selection. Yesterday I took a friend of mine and was so...
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Anonymous on 09/20/2006 09:37 AM
We have been goint to Boonville since they opened and have always enjoyed there buffet but the last year it has been very poor with quality and selection. Yesterday I took a friend of mine and was so embarressed as the food was not only poorly fixed with very little selection but when I asked for a few of your usual items they said didnt have any. Even your ice cream area did not have any toppings.

Guess that is the last time we visit Boonville.

PS You used to have a great buffet



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Anonymous on 09/20/2006 09:37 AM
We have been goint to Boonville since they opened and have always enjoyed there buffet but the last year it has been very poor with quality and selection. Yesterday I took a friend of mine and was so embarressed as the food was not only poorly fixed with very little selection but when I asked for a few of your usual items they said didnt have any. Even your ice cream area did not have any toppings.

Guess that is the last time we visit Boonville.

PS You used to have a great buffet



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 -  + My husband and I just completed the Katy Trail from Clinton to St. Charles. What an absolutely beautiful ride!! We stayed at the Best Western Colonial Motel in Clinton, the Best Western State Fair I...
Discussion started 09/17/2006 02:12 PM by Cindy - 1 reply (last reply by Mark of the Dalton Boys at 09/20/2006 07:36 AM)
Cindy from Sarasota, FL on 09/17/2006 02:12 PM
My husband and I just completed the Katy Trail from Clinton to St. Charles. What an absolutely beautiful ride!! We stayed at the Best Western Colonial Motel in Clinton, the Best Western State Fair Inn in Sedalia, the Katy Trail Bed and Bikefest in Rocheport, the Truman Hotel in Jefferson City (they provided a shuttle from the North Jefferson stop to the hotel and back again), Birk's Gasthaus (a bed and breakfast)in Hermann (they provided a shuttle from the McKittrick stop to the bed & breakfast and back again), and the Best Western St. Charles Inn in St. Charles. All the hotels and bed & breakfasts were outstanding. Everyone was so accomodating and friendly. We actually left our vehicle parked in St. Charles and took the Amtrak (with our bikes) to Sedalia. The first day we biked to Clinton because we wanted to start at the beginning and do the entire ride. I just can't say enough good things about our experience. Missouri does an excellent job keeping the trail and all the trailstops clean and in great condition. Thanks for a great vacation!!

 
Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 09/20/2006 07:36 AM
You know that Florida isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to Rails to Trails....check out the Pinellas RailTrail. The Heritage RailTrail should be great once completed...mainland to Key West on a dedicated trail....all over that!!! Glad you enjoyed the KATY, it is a great trail. Regards......Mark of the Dalton Boys


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 -  + We had a wonderful 2 night stay with Lucy. She made us feel right at home and opened her home to the 4 of us. Not only were the rooms wonderful, but the breakfasts were excellent. We will definitel...
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LESA BOWMAN from BIRMINGHAM, AL on 09/19/2006 11:04 AM
We had a wonderful 2 night stay with Lucy. She made us feel right at home and opened her home to the 4 of us. Not only were the rooms wonderful, but the breakfasts were excellent. We will definitely stay at Loutre Lane B&B the next time we are in the area. We also feel that we made a new friend. Thanks Lucy.

 
MAH from Blue Springs, MO on 09/19/2006 12:56 PM
I've also stayed at Loutre Lane B&B twice. Had a wonderful stay both times. Even though it's a bit of a hill to get up to her place, it is well worth it.

 
BLM from St Louis on 09/19/2006 09:58 PM
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