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RIT
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Dean on 05/20/2019 09:15 AM
Large tree down on Rock Island Trail, around 256. Impassable.

 
Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins from Windsor on 05/21/2019 09:16 AM
Maybe others have also, but I notified Missouri State Parks about the tree. Lots of storms and wind and they do a great job of keeping up

 
Dean on 05/22/2019 09:22 AM
Yep, I called right after we spotted it, and they said they would send a crew out shortly


Flooding
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Frank from St. Louis on 05/22/2019 04:25 PM
The DNR is listing the section from Mokane to Rocheport (MM 125-180) as temporarily closed due to flooding today. Can anyone confirm this? Is it really that bad for 55 miles?

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 05/22/2019 04:50 PM
In their section about flood closures, they give you a link to water level gauges, and they also have a couple of tables what part of the trail floods at what levels. You can look and see if maybe you can narrow down what segment is flooded.


Closures
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JTR from Hannibal on 05/19/2019 08:58 AM
Leaving on Mat 22 from Pilot Grove heading to St Charles.
Will we run into closures on this route. If so who do you call to find out more information.

 
JTR from Hannibal on 05/19/2019 09:00 AM
May

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/19/2019 09:13 AM
The rockslide between MM118 and MM117 still has the trail closed there. I doubt it will be cleared before your ride. The detour is an easy one though.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 05/21/2019 06:20 PM
Hey Jim, I’m sitting here watching the storms pass over and thinking maybe the flooding will clear the rock slide? :-)

 
Jim from St. Thomas on 05/21/2019 06:50 PM
If the tornadoes don’t move it first........

 
Megan from Fort Collins Colorado on 05/22/2019 04:10 PM
Our group did this section today. One thing to really focus on is the road closure- 94 has a section closed in the same spot as trail detour. Today. We were able to go through the road closure- but it's all water based closures, so take it hour by hour.


Weldon Spring Trailhead in Weldon Spring
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M Cyclechick on 05/22/2019 12:03 PM
Is this trailhead safe for overnight vehicle parking? I'm just planning a 2 day trip, so my car would be parked just 1 night.
Thanks


Trail Report from 5/19-5/20
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Adam from KC on 05/21/2019 09:34 AM
Friend and I just rode east from Sedalia to St. Charles, and then into Washington to catch Amtrak back to KC. We've been leaning on these talk threads so wanted to share some quick recaps that might help others as they plan their Katy adventure. We somehow stayed dry for four whole days, but I fear that might not be the case looking ahead with the forecast as summer comes on.

Main takeaway? The rough midwest winter followed by persistent heavy spring rains have made the trail just a touch dodgier and rougher overall than a typical year. It's all still very passable, but I swapped from wide slick tires (38 mm) to wide grippier tires (Clemente X'Plor Ush is the brand I used).


Sedalia to Rocheport: No water from Sedalia until the Pilot Grove trailhead, some 24 miles or so. Drink up before this stretch! Cleared some branches and dodged some sticks but a nice stretch with no detours. The Rocheport tunnel opened right as we arrived on Friday, May 19.

Rocheport to McKittrick/Hermann: Bumpier, rutted past Jeff City midway, but overall fine. Saw a TON of various large snakes as we got back by the river.

Stayed in Joey's Birdhouse B&B and we had one of the best breakfasts we've had in years, along with good company and a great place to stay on the trail.

Hermann to St. Charles: A great stretch with a few minor detours. One puts you on a remote country highway for literally three seconds and is nothing to sweat, and the other brings you up a large hill and into Klondike Park for a couple miles. It's well marked through the park, scenic and free of cars.


Back in March we worried about all the detours, but now the Parks dept. seems to really be on top of them. Never hurts to have lights on your bike front and back in case flooding closes stretches where you have to go on the road and need to increase visibility. Watch those flooding reports if you're planning a trip as the river looks high and threatening in Mid-May.

Hope everyone has a great time on the trail, we certainly loved every minute of it.


 
Frank from St. Louis on 05/21/2019 08:51 PM
I'm taking a couple of school groups next week/week after, Adam. This is *really* helpful. Thanks for posting. And let's hope we stay as dry as you did!

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 05/21/2019 09:57 PM
Frank keep your eye on the flood information on the DNR Katy Trail web site. The trail could be impacted by the recent rains (current and predicted) both along the Missouri River and northwest of the state of Missouri. If the predictions hold true, several parts of the trail along the river will be under water.

 
Lynn from St. Louis on 05/22/2019 05:35 AM
Adam, thanks for taking the time to report on conditions during your ride.


Rocheoort Detour
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Mark from Ellisville on 04/27/2019 03:39 AM
Be very careful with the detour around Rocheport, the detour takes you on highway 40 for a few miles and the traffic moves very fast and there’s little to no shoulder to ride on.

 
Ted from LA on 04/29/2019 04:34 PM
Is this still closed. Does anyone know. Thanks.

 
Anonymous on 05/08/2019 03:46 PM
Yep, still closed.

 
Anne from Cleveland on 05/21/2019 11:26 AM
Just looking for an update. Is this still closed? I am riding it Mid June.

 
Adam s from Kc on 05/21/2019 11:51 AM
Rode through it Friday evening (5/19) and it was all clear.

 
Anne from Cleveland on 05/21/2019 02:54 PM
Great news thank you!


visit
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Dawn eatherly from Dallas on 05/20/2019 09:29 AM
I'm interested in a first time visit to St. Louis. I would like to bike part of the Katy Trail. St. Charles to Augusta looks great. My questions are:
Is it best to rent a bike in St. Louis?
Do I bike to St. Charles or is there transportation for my bike and I?
Thanks

 
Jerry Whittle from Belleville IL on 05/20/2019 01:39 PM
If you are going to rent a bike, your best bet is the Bike Stop Café which is in St. Charles right next to the Katy Trail.

https://www.bikestopcafes.com/bike-rentals

 
Tyann (Katy Haus and Bank Haus) from Marthasville on 05/21/2019 10:28 AM
I second Bike Stop Cafe for a bike rental or if you want a shuttle to pick you and your bike up. There are also bike trails in St. Louis that connect to the Katy Trail if you want to ride from the city.


closures MM 182 to 178 (New Franklin to Rocheport)
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Anne from Cleveland on 05/20/2019 01:54 PM
Curious as to updates on this. I plan to ride entire trail mid June. Dread riding Hwy 240 to Hwy 40. Any advice? I already got hit by a car riding my bike last year, not looking forward to lightning striking twice!

If this is the only option, has anyone done it? Easy to find? Easy to ride?

Does anyone know of any shuttle companies that may be willing to shuttle riders for a fee of course?

 
Bill in Houston from Houston on 05/20/2019 09:00 PM
I think that if you scroll down you'll see someone who rode it recently and said it's open. You could text Katy Bed and Bikefest in Rocheport and ask if its open...


Globe Hotel Bed & Breakfast in Hartsburg
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Marybeth from Kirkwood on 05/20/2019 05:34 PM
The Globe Hotel. Has become like “coming home”. Leaia and Mark r wonderful hosts The place is always clean, the breakfast is large and delicious. The local restaurant and bar are veey fun. I love stopping there. Always will


Boonslick Guest House in Boonville
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Mb from Kirkwood on 05/20/2019 04:59 PM
What a pleasant suprise the Booneslick Guesthouse. Spacious, clean with lovely amenities and food and drink at the ready.
Sleeping was very comfortable. And a short walk to Frederic's Hotel Bar for drink great price. Would recommend to anyone


The Silos at Prairie Vale in Green Ridge
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Mb from Kirkwood on 05/20/2019 04:51 PM
We stayed in the Punk Silo. The Silo’s are extremely cute. They have everything u need. Very clever storage, while providing everything
Wendy and Doug are down home peeps. The animals on the farm r fun. Wonderful place, secluded and quiet. A great get away place


Rock Island Trail
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NWA Mark from Bentonville on 05/18/2019 04:15 PM
If traveling from Lee's Summit Amtrak Station- How far down to the nearest RI trail head? Is there good overnight parking near the trail head? Or, is cycling to/from LS Amtrak to RI trail reasonable.

Tentatively planning a train out - cycle back trip. Hermann?
Does Amtrak still go to Washington?

 
Jharte from Raytown on 05/19/2019 09:58 AM
Hello Mark,
The nearest (continuous) Rock Island Trail starts in Pleasant Hill, MO. There is a Trailhead and it's safe for overnight parking. From the Lee's Summit Depot it's about a 20 minute drive via highway or about 1.5 hrs by bike via Smart Road. The Rock Island Trail from Pleasant Hill to the Katy Trail (and beyond) is an excellent ride and highly recommended. I've ridden across the state a few times from Pleasant Hill and really like it.
Sorry, not sure if Amtrak goes to Washington.
-Jharte

 
Aaron from Blue Springs mo on 05/20/2019 01:28 PM
Yes the Amtrak station does go to Washington Missouri, I just bought a ticket yesterday for a pick up next week on Friday.


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Aaron from Blue Springs mo on 05/20/2019 01:21 PM
Going to be heading out of pleasant Hill on the 29th of May around 6 am, riding to Washington Missouri slow and easy, any riders going that way that week that want to join me?


Tree Down on Rock Island Trail
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LS KB from Lees Summit on 05/19/2019 10:48 PM
A very large tree is down 5 miles south of the Pleasant Hill/Purvis Rd Trail-head. I could not see a way to get around or over with the tree with a bike. Easy detour by taking East 217th Street to South Dillon Rd back to the trail. Hopefully someone will post when the tree is removed.


Hart Creek Conservation Area in Hartsburg
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Amit from St Charles on 05/16/2019 10:50 AM
Hi
Has anyone recently visited this campsite, want to more about the facilities available here. Called the number on their website, but could not reach anyone for more information. I am planning to visit here on memorial day weekend 2019.

 
Allen from Shawnee on 05/18/2019 04:50 PM
Unless something has changed, there are no facilities here. No toilet, no water, no picnic table just primitive camping
There is camping in Hartsburg volunteer park close to the trailhead. There is a picnic table and gazebo in park. Water and flush toilets at trailhead. There is also camping at Coopers landing in Easley. I don’t believe there are any camping facilities at conservation areas along trail other than primitive.

Allen

 
steve from saint louis on 05/19/2019 08:52 AM
Totally agree with Allen. I would add that I would only camp at Hart Creek if it was a time of year where you do not have ticks or mosquitoes, or I had a plan to deal with them.


Rocheport Tunnel Open
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Adam s from Kc on 05/17/2019 05:13 PM
The closed signs were down and we were able to ride through the Rocheport tunnel! Hopefully it’s done officially and not just a one off, but wanted to let everyone know as we just passed through it.

 
Flordian from Deltona Florida on 05/18/2019 10:31 AM
Sounds like good news. Planning to ride the trail in June and was kind of bummed out about not being able to see and go through tunnel.

 
Allen from Shawnee on 05/18/2019 04:54 PM
Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

Allen


Found glasses
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Jim from St. Thomas on 05/18/2019 03:45 PM
Probably a long shot but did anyone lose a pair of prescription eyeglasses between Clinton and Windsor. We found a pair Thursday morning.


Globe Hotel Bed & Breakfast in Hartsburg
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Ruth & Michael from Petoskey, MI on 05/17/2019 09:37 AM
We stayed here 4/25/19, and had a delightful beginning to our hike on the Katy Trail at the Globe Hotel. Leaia and Mark were welcoming and accommodating. We were very comfortable. The rooms were immaculate and the breakfast outstanding. They went beyond the standard to keep us well fed with excellent food.


Jackson County Rock Island Trail Official Opening
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Ray (webmaster) on 05/17/2019 06:13 AM
The “Rock the Trail – Rock Island Ribbon Cutting” will take place on Saturday, June 1 at 10:00 a.m. at the 98th Street Trailhead located at 12600 E. 98th Street in Kansas City. Jackson County and the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority (KCATA) invites local officials, community members and media to celebrate the occasion and enjoy a great day on the trail.
...
The first 6.4 miles of the trail stretches from Jefferson Street, west of MO-291 in Lee’s Summit, to Brickyard Road, south of Blue Parkway in Kansas City.
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[ more ... follow link below ]

Full Article: https://lstribune.net/index.php/2019/05/16/jackson-county-announces-official-opening-for-phase-one-of-rock-island-trail/

Source: Lee's Summit Tribune


Sedalia to Jefferson City
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Mark from Bentonville, AR on 06/01/2013 06:55 PM
Is trying to ride the stretch from Sedalia to Jeff City in one day (& cath Amtrak back)a feasible plan for experienced/fit cyclists? We would be on hybrid bikes.

 
ArkyKenny on 06/02/2013 08:42 AM
The distance is not a problem, but linking up with the Amtrak ride and being on their schedule could be tricky. If you are worried about it, think about an out and back from Sedalia, eating lunch in Huntsdale, Rocheport, or some place like that. These long summer days allow for that, and I would much rather ride some extra miles than wait on a train.

FYI, Sedalia to Pilot Grove is my favorite part of the trail (because of the tree tunnels), but you climb to get to PG from both directions. Railroad grades wear on you very differently than those Arkansas hills. Not bad, just different. So be ready, and bring plenty of fluids because you will climb to PG twice if you do that.

 
Mark from Bentonville, AR on 06/03/2013 05:14 PM
There is an evening train scheduled to depart at ~6:30 pm. Is it that the trains often run behind schedule? I like your out and back idea but was also wanting to see as much of the trail in one day as possible

 
ArkyKenny on 06/03/2013 08:06 PM
My out and back suggestion is a reflection of my 1) my need to be early vs. 2) my utter disgust with having to wait. Since I have to be early, and hate to wait, and like to ride, the best solution for me is to do an out and back for a one day ride.

If it's your first time on the Katy, an out and back would also be a good option for you to figure out your preferred distance. I think that 80 on Katy is roughly equal to riding a century on the road, so that is what I consider a good full long, but fairly leisure day's ride. You will need to figure out your ideal day: The rolling resistance is more than I first expected, and there are NO hills to coast down, so there are no breaks. The Katy is both easier, and harder to ride than riding on the road. An out and back would be a good way to figure that out.

If you want to see the trail, which you will, get a ride to St Charles (maybe on Amtrak), and do a multi day trip back to Sedalia, or Clinton. That is how I did it. And I'm hooked!

Good luck!


 
Hank on 06/04/2013 05:04 AM
If you're an experienced fit cyclist then Sedalia to Jeff in one day should not be a problem. Just leave plenty early so you are not "on the clock" so to speak. Amtrak is often late though better than it used to be, when it was ALWAYS late. Don't forget with Amtrak, you MUST have a bike reservation, you can't just show up and put your bikes on. I agree with AK, Sedalia to Pilot Grove is sublime.

 
Mike from South of Clinton on 06/04/2013 07:48 PM
I have made the Sedalia - Jefferson City - Amtrak trip several times. That is close to a 90 mile day, I like the challenge. If things don't work out, you can stay the night and catch the morning train, or, just ride back...75 - 80 miles from your car can be a real problem if you break your bike or yourself. I still take time to stop and eat, talk to people, drink beer, etc. I have shown up with 5 minutes to spare before. I have had nothing but good experiences with Amtrak, even calling and changing my travel times the night before.

 
blatamy from st louis on 05/16/2019 09:24 AM
I want to ride from sedalia to jefferson city via the KT and Butterfield stage experience...anyone know where i can find a map with both listed?

 
Anonymous on 05/16/2019 01:39 PM
https://mobikefed.org/ButterfieldStageExperience/CrossStateRouteOptions has some static and interactive maps that may help.

 
Dean from Columbia on 05/16/2019 05:02 PM
Only reservation I might have are detours near Easley (3 miles on gravel roads) and Rocheport (4 mile detour, most of it on US 40). The Easley detour is rough, and slowed me down a bit last I took it. The section on 40 can be a little busy depending on time of day.

 
Karl Brand from Missouri City, TX on 05/17/2019 05:53 AM
I have ridden the entire trail 9 times, and the mileage and AMTK connection are very doable. I have to echo the sentiment; the Sedalia-Pilot Grove segment is my favorite.


Pro-Velo in Sedalia -- Going Out of Their Way to Help
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TJ from Oakton, VA on 05/16/2019 01:04 PM
Pro-Velo and Ebby (hope I got the name right) took a phone call from me on May 11, 2019 -- after hours -- and agreed to wait at the shop in downtown Sedalia for another 10 minutes until I could pedal in. I'd had 6 flats over two days on the Katy: my tires were worn out after 3.5 years of trail and road service. (Katy Trail tip--start the trail with new tires).
Ebby met me and my friends, didn't up-sell the tires I needed, installed them expertly for a nominal fee, and met all my tube and CO2 cartridge needs. We were done in 30 minutes and I had no troubles the rest of the trip.
Thank you, Ebby, for staying late on a Saturday and saving this discouraged biker. Wishing you much success. -- TJ


Hart Creek Conservation Area in Hartsburg
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Amit from St Charles on 05/16/2019 10:51 AM
Has anyone visited this area recently. Wanted to know more information about available facilities. I am planning to visit in memorial day weekend 2019.

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