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Questions about using a chariot on the trail
 -  + My husband and I would like to do part of the Katy trail using a chariot trailer to pull our 2 year old this summer. Does anyone have suggestions regarding a section we should do? Has anyone taken th...
Discussion started 04/01/2013 02:16 PM by Riding with a 2 year old.. - 3 replies (last reply by Don at 04/03/2013 08:16 AM)
Riding with a 2 year old.. on 04/01/2013 02:16 PM
My husband and I would like to do part of the Katy trail using a chariot trailer to pull our 2 year old this summer. Does anyone have suggestions regarding a section we should do? Has anyone taken their child in a carrier along the trail for a long distance? We would also like to do the trail by staying in campsites. Looking for suggestions/feedback.

 
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 04/01/2013 02:51 PM
Most sections of the trail are fine with a Chariot trailer, just make sure to have the screen cover on to keep out the dust and gravel. Not sure how long of a trip you are considering, but the middle section between New Franklin and Bluffton seems to have the most camping opportunities right close to the trail.

 
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 04/02/2013 11:31 AM
I would avoid the Clifton City to Pilot Grove (going west to east) or the Boonville to Pilot Grove (going east to west) especially if the trail is wet.

 
Don from Ellisville, MO on 04/03/2013 08:16 AM
Since the Katy surface is a little rough, a long ride can be uncomfortable in a trailer. Consider extra pillows for soundproofing and padding for the little one.


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Wanting to start a bed and breakfast in Dutzow
 -  + I have been playing around with opening a bed and breakfast in Dutzow and am seeking some advise from current bed and breakfast owners as far as requirements and zoning type stuff. Any help would be a...
Discussion started 04/02/2013 01:38 PM by Steve Gerth - 2 replies (last reply by Doug at 04/03/2013 06:33 AM)
Steve Gerth from St.Louis on 04/02/2013 01:38 PM
I have been playing around with opening a bed and breakfast in Dutzow and am seeking some advise from current bed and breakfast owners as far as requirements and zoning type stuff. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Steve

 
Anonymous on 04/03/2013 05:41 AM
Call Ms. Gluntz. http://www.warrencountymo.org/planzone.html

 
Doug from Bluffton on 04/03/2013 06:33 AM
Contact Doug at the Rendleman Home. I'll be glad to talk to you. I'm sure some of the other B&B owners along the trail would answer questions you might have also.


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Katy Trail Article (STL Post Dispatch - 2 Apr 13)
 -  + Great article on the upkeep of the Katy trail and Missouri parks:http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/missouri-s-parks-are-at-a-critical-juncture/article_bc2911a9-fb9d-5295-982b-ec5a2262a823.h...
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berkebid from Fairview Heights, IL on 04/02/2013 09:39 AM
Great article on the upkeep of the Katy trail
and Missouri parks:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/missouri-s-parks-are-at-a-critical-juncture/article_bc2911a9-fb9d-5295-982b-ec5a2262a823.html


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May 6-10 Ride
 -  + Anyone panning on riding the whole trail this early?I was thinking of parking at the start in Machena and then getting a train or something to the end (what is my best option?) and then biking back.Ar...
Discussion started 03/28/2013 10:57 AM by Ben - 10 replies (last reply by Rhona Lococo at 03/30/2013 02:19 PM)
Ben from Hobart, IN on 03/28/2013 10:57 AM
Anyone panning on riding the whole trail this early?

I was thinking of parking at the start in Machena and then getting a train or something to the end (what is my best option?) and then biking back.

Are the shops and inns all usually open this early?

Would be cool to meet some fellow riders.

 
Don from Ellisville, MO on 03/28/2013 11:39 AM
Ben, there is no place to park at Machens. It's a deserted area in farm fields. Your best bet for what you are attempting, is to get a shuttle in St. Charles to the other end of the trail. When you ride back to St. Charles, you can then ride over to Machens and back (just to say you did the whole trail).
Most shops and inns are open starting next week.

 
Anonymous on 03/28/2013 11:56 AM
Or you could stay at the Loco House in St. Charles and have them shuttle you to the Amtrak station, hope the trail to Sedalia and ride back to St. Charles. You could ride down to Clinton if you wanted or just forego that little section too.

 
Ben from Hobart, IN on 03/28/2013 12:10 PM
Don,

As I am reading a bit more I see that.

Is it easier to train or shuttle it to the end from St. Charles.

I am also reading mixed views on parking in St. Charles, but I have to park somewhere as I am traveling from Indiana.

 
Ben from Hobart, IN on 03/28/2013 12:11 PM
Anonymous,

Is Sedalia the end of the line for the train?

If so that seems reasonable.

Thanks for the replies guys! Esp with the spelling errors in the first post. Geez!

 
Anonymous on 03/28/2013 01:37 PM
To hop on the Katy, yes Sedalia is the last stop. The station is just a few blocks from the trail. Don't know about easier, but it is probably cheaper to ride the train.

 
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 03/28/2013 03:34 PM
I plan to start May 4 in Sedalia, ride to Augusta and then back to Sedalia. Plan to camp all the way taking pictures. Did the same trip last May in 5 1/2 days, plan to take a more leisure pace this time.

 
Craig from Springfield, Mo on 03/28/2013 05:39 PM
Starting in Columbia on April 13th. Going to Clinton then back to Columbia the 17th for baseball (MU vs MSU)game. Continuing to St Charles starting the 18th.

 
Ina from Rocheport on 03/28/2013 05:53 PM
We are riding the first week in June. We are leaving a car in Warrensburg and shuttling down to Clinton. At the end of our ride in St. Charles (with the Machens out and back) we will ride the train back to Warrensburg. You need a ticket for you and your bike. Last time we did this, they would only ticket for 4 bikes.

 
Gene from Indiana on 03/29/2013 12:58 AM
if you're pulling a trailer like a Bob or Burley, I don't think the train will take it. Better ask. You could park your vehicle in St Charles near the trail but you might let the police department know. Have a good trip. Since i live 40 miles east of Hobart, we have a frozen groundhog up here.

 
Rhona Lococo from St Charles Mo on 03/30/2013 02:19 PM
Ben......give me a call at Lococo House III, Bed & Breakfast you can leave your vehicle on our off the street parking lot, spend the night and we will shuttle you to train station or Sedilia or Clinton, let me know if we can be of helpto you....Rhona


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Trail conditions
 -  + Dutzow to Augusta R/T this afternoon, first Katy ride of the season! Trail generally in good shape, a few soft spots but for the most part just fine. Sweet riding. Augusta Brewery was busy, as it shou...
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Hank from New Haven on 03/29/2013 06:05 PM
Dutzow to Augusta R/T this afternoon, first Katy ride of the season! Trail generally in good shape, a few soft spots but for the most part just fine. Sweet riding. Augusta Brewery was busy, as it should be. Bring on the season!


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parking safety
 -  + read with interest the comments re: parking lot safety (or lack there of). I will be in that neck of the woods in a few weeks and had planned on riding bike on the trail and parking in No jefferson of...
Discussion started 03/18/2013 12:25 PM by Bill - 12 replies (last reply by Tammy at 03/29/2013 11:30 AM)
Bill on 03/18/2013 12:25 PM
read with interest the comments re: parking lot safety (or lack there of). I will be in that neck of the woods in a few weeks and had planned on riding bike on the trail and parking in No jefferson of jefferson city. Wondering about the saftey or if someone could reccomend another trail head with in 10 miles east or west of No Jefferson that would be safer. I'll have lots of camping and golf gear in the vehicle. Is this a scenic section? I also see lots about horse bike conflcits. i try to get along with both. Please send recomendations for saftey and scenic.

 
MidSouth from Rogersville, MO on 03/18/2013 12:49 PM
Bill, if you are not parking overnight, I don't think you would have a problem at any of the trail heads. I have parked overnight at Hartsburg many times without issue.

 
Anonymous on 03/18/2013 12:54 PM
Anything else of value you plan on leaving in the car? I'd like to be able to know for sure its yours, Bill.

 
Bill on 03/18/2013 03:30 PM
Dear anonymous, You'll know it's my car by the empty holster for the 9mm handgun. don't be alarmed by the burning, searing sxploding feeling in yur brain, it will only last an instant

 
Anonymous on 03/18/2013 06:51 PM
You'd shoot someone in the head over a golf club and a camping stove? Yet you come here asking about a safe place to park your car. Go figure.

 
Cathy from Jefferson City on 03/18/2013 09:33 PM
Bill, you probably figured out that people who post as anonymous on this forum are more concerned about being annoying than helpful.

The trailheads are fine during the day, but the N. Jefferson trailhead is secluded and I would not want to leave my car there overnight. I think others have posted that they believe the trailhead at Hartsburg is a safe place to leave your car overnight. It's in the heart of the town. Granted there's only about 100 residents if that many, but there's houses right by the trailhead in Hartsburg, which should discourage thiefs. Hartsburg is 10 miles west of Jefferson City (on the trail).

 
Figs from Olathe, KS on 03/19/2013 06:51 AM
The only place I have left a vehicle is Rocheport. It was plenty safe there, well lit. I have heard/read of the safety issues with N. Jefferson, but have no experiance leaving cars in that area.

I don't leave an empty holster in view... but I share your philosophy of self preservation..and preservation of what's hard earned.

 
Anonymous on 03/19/2013 08:46 AM
Pretty annoying when someone points out the lack of wisdom in going to an open forum and posting that their vehicle will have lots of stuff in it while asking where to park it. No help in that at all. I get your point Cathy.

 
Bill on 03/19/2013 10:58 AM
Thanks to all of those sharing useful information, much appreciated. @ Anonymous you come online and offer no useful information and then threaten to steal somebody's stuff. So I would have to say a golf club and a camp stove are far more valuable to society than you are. One way I avoid getting shot is I don't steal other peoples stuff nor do I go on line to brag about it. What particular stuff is in my car is irrelevant, wether it is golf clubs or my favorite teddy bear it's mine not yours. When I list a vehicle description, plate number and the day, date, time and where I'll be parking then that will be ridiculous. Thanks again to the useful people. peace out

 
Anonymous on 03/19/2013 11:58 AM
Quite amazing. Never said anything about me stealing your stuff. Paraphrased; Do you normally just go off and leave valuables in your car and let others know? If I see a vehicle loaded with valuables, I'd probably steer clear so as not to be implicated in their pending loss.

Great assumptions though. A golf club and a camp stove probably are more valuable than most human beings to people like you.

 
Figs from Olathe, KS on 03/19/2013 12:30 PM
Geez, I normally steer clear of websites with so much bickering and drama. Hell, I love bicycle and motorcycle riding because there's no drama!! Anonymous-get a grip.

Bill, I think if you avoid the one parking lot in question and use what appears to be sound judgement and some common sense when leaving your car, you should have have a great and memorable ride on KT!

 
Bill on 03/19/2013 01:35 PM
Thanks Figs for useful info. Looking forward to riding the KT. Enjoy your bike season whether it is motorized or non. Over and out!

 
Tammy on 03/29/2013 11:30 AM
We parked in Hartsburg last May and left our car there for 2 nights and had no problems. I think that is where we are going to park again this year. Jeff City did look secluded, so I don't know if I would want to leave my car there overnight, but that is just me. I am paranoid. :)


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staying in Hermann
 -  + Planning on doing a portion of the Katy Trail on May 23-26,2013. Question is where is the best place to stay in Hermann? My wife and I will be in Hermann on a Sunday night and just looking for suggest...
Discussion started 02/23/2013 04:47 PM by MIKAT - 11 replies (last reply by Ina at 03/28/2013 06:08 PM)
MIKAT from Waynesville on 02/23/2013 04:47 PM
Planning on doing a portion of the Katy Trail on May 23-26,2013. Question is where is the best place to stay in Hermann? My wife and I will be in Hermann on a Sunday night and just looking for suggestions. Of people that have stayed at some of the B&B's. Thanks for any help. Planning our trip out now but this town I am confused.

 
Haank from New Haven, MO on 02/23/2013 05:20 PM
I live just down the road so have never stayed at the B-Bs. Here's what the folks on tripadvisor.com have to say. http://www.tripadvisor.com/HACSearch?geo=44481#02,1361661483191,cat:S2,rad:S25mi,sponsors:A

 
Anonymous on 02/23/2013 09:27 PM
Hermann Hill is the best by which all other B & B's should be judged.

 
Mikat from Waynesville,mo on 02/24/2013 08:03 AM
Thanks for responding, Hermann Hill is very nice just very expensive anyone else have any suggestions. Hannk, went to trip advisor and it just pulls up two hotels.

 
Haank from New Haven, MO on 02/24/2013 10:27 AM
The link I posted takes you directly to the B & B reviews.

 
Anonymous on 02/24/2013 10:41 AM
Perhaps you should define what "best" is for you. Best as in amenities, service, cleanliness, location, cost? It's difficult to make a recommendation when you have requirements that you don't specify.

Where is the best place to eat in Hermann? Who makes the best wine in Hermann?

 
Anonymous on 02/24/2013 08:24 PM
I've stayed at the Vinchester Inn right downtown a couple times. It's very basic, but I found it to be clean and reasonably priced by Hermann standards. I'm not a big B&B person (especially when I am riding on the trail). I kind of like to do my own thing, ride, get a shower, find something to eat and be left alone. Vinchester has worked well for me for these purposes.

Note: I have never used it on a festival weekend of any kind. That changes the rules and the PRICES!!

That's my 2 cents. Hope its useful.

Enjoy!


 
Figs from Olathe, KS on 02/25/2013 08:51 AM
That's gonna be a busy weekend on the the central part of the trail: Pedaler's Jamboree is Saturday-Sunday-Monday in the area of Boonville to Hartsburg... Don't know how that might impact the area of Hermann

 
Bike Rider from Kansas City on 02/25/2013 01:54 PM
We have stayed at the Wine Valley Inn in Hermann while biking the Katy Trail. Really nice Inn that functions like a B&B. Great Breakfast! Wasn't cheap, but reasonable for the amenities. It is downtown and within walking distance of several restaurants.

 
Joey Los from McKittrick on 02/25/2013 09:53 PM
Hello Mikat, perhaps you are confused because Hermann is not right on the trail. It is 2.1 miles from the trail. There are two fine reasonably priced B&Bs (both with excellent breakfast) closer to the trail head in McKittrick, my place Joey's Birdhouse and Meyer's Hilltop. You can find us both on line. Both offer rides into Hermann for our tired guests.

 
Anonymous on 02/27/2013 11:12 PM
With the new bridge and wide shoulders, Hermann is now an easy and safe ride from the KATY.

Stay wherever fits your style and your wallet, but there's no need to worry about Hermann being "off the trail." Its 2 miles!

 
Ina from Rocheport on 03/28/2013 06:08 PM
We like to stay at the Myers Hill Farm in McKittrick. They are a hoot of a couple and have soft water! After a 60 mile day on they trail, it feels great. Great breakfast, too!

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