Mo Research Park
- + This trailhead was open briefly--my husband used it several times. However, they have
"reclosed" it--apparently because the official opening isn't until Oct. Just be advised, if you
heard it...
Discussion started 09/18/2008 04:49 PM by cunninghamair - 2 replies (last reply by 4Knots2NoWhere at 09/22/2008 10:23 AM)cunninghamair from O Fallon, MO on 09/18/2008 04:49 PM
This trailhead was open briefly--my husband used it several times. However, they have
"reclosed" it--apparently because the official opening isn't until Oct. Just be advised, if you
heard it was open.
kim from independence, mo on 09/22/2008 08:12 AM
Where is this?
4Knots2NoWhere from Chesterfield on 09/22/2008 10:23 AM
Mo Research Park is near Weldon Springs IIRC. Someone correct me if that is wrong.
Bill Keaggy's photos
- + Wonderful photo journal of your trip! My son and I have decided we will ride early next summer.
Thanks for the inspirations.
Discussion started 09/21/2008 04:24 PM by KCMarie - 0 repliesKCMarie from Independence, Mo on 09/21/2008 04:24 PM
Wonderful photo journal of your trip! My son and I have decided we will ride early next summer.
Thanks for the inspirations.
2009 DNR KATY TRAIL RIDE
- + My wife and I would like to do the DNR ride in 2009. I would be interested in any advice someone would like to share with us about this ride. Things to take, do's and dont's, should we camp? B&B? Tans...
Discussion started 09/19/2008 09:06 PM by DON & MARSHA BORDER - 1 reply (last reply by Randy at 09/20/2008 07:39 PM)DON & MARSHA BORDER from SUGAR CREEK, MISSOURI on 09/19/2008 09:06 PM
My wife and I would like to do the DNR ride in 2009. I would be interested in any advice someone would like to share with us about this ride. Things to take, do's and dont's, should we camp? B&B? Tansportation to St Charles, we live out side Kansas City. This will be our first time
Randy from Kansas City, Mo on 09/20/2008 07:39 PM
I rode in the 2008 DNR ride for the first time and plan to do it again in 2009. The ride in general is very well supported by the DNR. Snacks and water at all the SAG stops, very nice people (riders and staff both.) I highly recomend the ride for anyone, just make sure you train well for it. I camped all week, it was a blast. Pack lite. As far as transportation, the DNR provided shuttles (for a minimal cost) from one end to the other last year before and after the ride. So park at whichever end is closest to where you live. I believe in 2009 they will be going from Clinton to St. Charles.
Katy Trail Bed & Bikefest (Rocheport)
- + Our 2nd time to stay here. We spent 2 nights here a couple of years ago. We were dissappointed about no longer having a nice breakfast as the last time it was awesome! We were trapped by the floodw...
Discussion started 09/20/2008 01:06 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous on 09/20/2008 01:06 PM
Our 2nd time to stay here. We spent 2 nights here a couple of years ago. We were dissappointed about no longer having a nice breakfast as the last time it was awesome! We were trapped by the floodwaters and they allowed us to stay over until we were able to make arrangements to get picked up. Ended up spending another night there.
Anonymous on 09/20/2008 01:06 PM
Our 2nd time to stay here. We spent 2 nights here a couple of years ago. We were dissappointed about no longer having a nice breakfast as the last time it was awesome! We were trapped by the floodwaters and they allowed us to stay over until we were able to make arrangements to get picked up. Ended up spending another night there.
Show Me MO Tours Shuttle (St Charles)
- + We were trapped by the flood waters on the trail and called Show Me MO and Barbara was very nice and offered to pick us up Tue. evening when she finished her days work but we elected to stay in Rochep...
Discussion started 09/20/2008 12:15 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous on 09/20/2008 12:15 PM
We were trapped by the flood waters on the trail and called Show Me MO and Barbara was very nice and offered to pick us up Tue. evening when she finished her days work but we elected to stay in Rocheport another night and she picked us up Wed. morning and took us back to St. Charles. We had to pay cash which we were very fortunate that the Trail Side diner cashed a check for us. Small town people are still the best!! The Kirks from IL.
Anonymous on 09/20/2008 12:15 PM
We were trapped by the flood waters on the trail and called Show Me MO and Barbara was very nice and offered to pick us up Tue. evening when she finished her days work but we elected to stay in Rocheport another night and she picked us up Wed. morning and took us back to St. Charles. We had to pay cash which we were very fortunate that the Trail Side diner cashed a check for us. Small town people are still the best!! The Kirks from IL.
trail extension timeline?
- + Does anybody know when the extension to Pleasant Hill will be completed?
Discussion started 09/20/2008 04:17 AM by howard hughes blues - 0 replieshoward hughes blues on 09/20/2008 04:17 AM
Does anybody know when the extension to Pleasant Hill will be completed?
Trail conditions to around Weldon Springs
- + Has anyone heard an update on the trail conditions around Weldon Springs? I have read where there is a section closed a few days ago, is that still the case? I believe the river is falling but maybe...
Discussion started 09/19/2008 08:33 PM by Vince - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 09/19/2008 11:09 PM)Vince from Maryville, IL on 09/19/2008 08:33 PM
Has anyone heard an update on the trail conditions around Weldon Springs? I have read where there is a section closed a few days ago, is that still the case? I believe the river is falling but maybe not enough yet.
Anonymous on 09/19/2008 11:09 PM
Rode from Augusta to Weldon Springs on Wed 9/17, had to ride through about 4-5 inches of water for about 40 yds, no big deal, actually kinda fun. I am sure the water has receeded by Friday/Sat. Will have no problem at all.
Garden Gate Bed and Breakfast (Boonville)
- + Once again the stay was terrific! Our breakfast was delicious...Penny is a great cook and hostess. We enjoyed sitting on the front porch and relaxing after a day of site seeing the small bedroom commu...
Discussion started 09/19/2008 08:10 AM by David & Sherry - 0 repliesDavid & Sherry from Osage Beach, Mo. on 09/19/2008 08:10 AM
Once again the stay was terrific! Our breakfast was delicious...Penny is a great cook and hostess. We enjoyed sitting on the front porch and relaxing after a day of site seeing the small bedroom communities of the area and doing some great shopping.
can hardly wait to stay at your wonderful B&B again! Thanks
David & Sherry from Osage Beach, Mo. on 09/19/2008 08:10 AM
Once again the stay was terrific! Our breakfast was delicious...Penny is a great cook and hostess. We enjoyed sitting on the front porch and relaxing after a day of site seeing the small bedroom communities of the area and doing some great shopping.
can hardly wait to stay at your wonderful B&B again! Thanks
Kansas City to Sedalia route suggestions
- + My friend Kelley and I are taking the Amtrak from STL to KC tomorrow and then biking back to STL
over 3 days. I am hoping someone has made the trip from KC to Sedalia on bike and can
recommen...
Discussion started 09/18/2008 02:30 PM by Matthew - 1 reply (last reply by K Reed at 09/18/2008 09:24 PM)Matthew from St Louis, MO on 09/18/2008 02:30 PM
My friend Kelley and I are taking the Amtrak from STL to KC tomorrow and then biking back to STL
over 3 days. I am hoping someone has made the trip from KC to Sedalia on bike and can
recommend a relatively safe route. We will be starting in the Lee's Summit area from a friend's
house.
We are going to Sedalia Sat night and camping at the fair grounds. Sunday we are camping in
Hartsburg and staying at a B&B in Augusta on Monday night. Any help or other recommendations
(especially for food places) would be well received.
Matthew - mpkutz@gmail.com
K Reed from Ballwin, MO on 09/18/2008 09:24 PM
Why don't you get off Amtrac in Sedalia?
Katy Trail
- + Wed. 9/17/08 10:30 AM at mile 111 on the trail the water dropped over 1 foot during the night and is currently dropping at the rate of 1 inch an hour. Water has not gone over the trail here but was o...
Discussion started 09/17/2008 10:41 AM by Doug - 5 replies (last reply by Doug at 09/18/2008 05:37 PM)Doug from Bluffton on 09/17/2008 10:41 AM
Wed. 9/17/08 10:30 AM at mile 111 on the trail the water dropped over 1 foot during the night and is currently dropping at the rate of 1 inch an hour. Water has not gone over the trail here but was over at 114 on tuesday at 2:00 PM. Will check and update later in the day.
Doug from Bluffton on 09/17/2008 07:52 PM
9/17/08 7:30 PM, Water at MM 111 is dropping at over an inch per hour. Trail at 114 is no longer under water. Trail at 116 was still under water at 4:30 PM deep enough that a local that came thru told me "I wish I hadn't." That was the only spot between Hartsburg and Hermann that I saw still under water. There are still rough spots where the top has washed and the lead to bridge at Auxvasse River have been washed away. The road there is very close tho and it is easy to get around that bridge. There might be others with this problem, I do not know. A grain of salt.
Ken from St. Charles on 09/17/2008 08:05 PM
I rode the Hamburg down to the KATY this evening. They intersect a little west of the Weldon Spring trailhead. Between the intersection and Weldon Spring TH it is dry with a rough spot right by the intersection. To the west it's a little wetter but receding quickly it appears. I could see water over a little of the trail just west of the intersection.
I rode out to the Weldon Spring boat ramp. The NWS river forecast showed it cresting in St. Charles today. At the Weldon Spring ramp you could tell the river had been about a foot higher than it was currently.
Tom from columbia on 09/18/2008 12:34 PM
Here's the latest from DNR, at about 12:15 this afternoon they deleted the closures around mm 58:
9/18/08 -- The following sections of trail are closed due to flooding or flood damage:
MM 115.9 (Portland) to MM 125 (Mokane)
MM 179 to MM 182.3 (just west of Rocheport)
Doug, you were saying that 116 mm still had water on it, by looking at the map, it looks like it's fairy easy to get around this on highway 94, am I wrong?
I'll probably be going from jefferson city to st charles Friday morning, so it looks like I have a pretty good shot now that the eastern part of the trail is open.
4Knots2NoWhere from Chesterfield on 09/18/2008 01:34 PM
Too bad the folks who run the Tour De Vine don't have your confidence. They canceled the St. Charles -> Herman leg this morning. I am thinking they couldn't wait for the DNR update or they know something the rest of us don't.
Doug from Bluffton on 09/18/2008 05:37 PM
Tom, and all concerned; the Katy no longet has water on it at mm 115.9 or anywhere else between Hermann and Hartsburg. Mud yes, water no. 94 at mm 116 is actually lower than the trail so it is still underwater as of 5:00 PM. and the farmers there are having to use the trail to get in and out but riders are getting thru safely. Ramps at some bridges washed out but you can step up onto a very slick mud covered bridge. Like snot on ice. Better to use the road to get around the bridge where possible. Water level at mm 111 has dropped several feet today.
Weldon Spring flooding
- + We checked DNR before heading out, and were surprised that 1.5 miles just west of Weldon
Springs trailhead were closed. There is a sign on the trailhead bulletin board and orange
fencing acro...
Discussion started 09/18/2008 04:45 PM by cunninghamair - 0 repliescunninghamair from O Fallon, MO on 09/18/2008 04:45 PM
We checked DNR before heading out, and were surprised that 1.5 miles just west of Weldon
Springs trailhead were closed. There is a sign on the trailhead bulletin board and orange
fencing across the path. We didn't go check it out--just be advised. Next time I'll call
Defiance Bike Shop for a better update.
Kansas City to Sedalia route suggestions
- + My friend Kelley and I are biking from Kansas City to St Louis this
Discussion started 09/18/2008 02:24 PM by Matthew - 0 repliesMatthew from Chicago, IL on 09/18/2008 02:24 PM
My friend Kelley and I are biking from Kansas City to St Louis this
katy trail flooding
- + We have a group going on a bike ride Thursday Sept 18th and were wondering if the Katy Tral is flooded anywhere from Definance to Augusta? Anybody been there in the last few days?
Discussion started 09/16/2008 06:57 PM by Dick - 5 replies (last reply by Arkie at 09/17/2008 09:53 AM)Dick from St. Louis on 09/16/2008 06:57 PM
We have a group going on a bike ride Thursday Sept 18th and were wondering if the Katy Tral is flooded anywhere from Definance to Augusta? Anybody been there in the last few days?
fbr from University City on 09/16/2008 07:40 PM
I don't know the answer to your question although I'm curious as well. I am thinking about going to Defiance from Creve Couere Lake in St. Louis. However, if you call Katy Bike Rental in Defiance @ 636-987-2673. I'm sure they would know and be happy to share what they know with you
Arkie on 09/16/2008 09:06 PM
Well isn't this a revolting bit of news from the DNR:
9/16/08 -- The following sections of trail are closed due to flooding and flood damage:
MM 53.6 to MM 57.5 (east of Weldon Spring to east of Defiance)
MM 66.3 (Augusta) to MM 74 (Dutzow)
MM 84.7 (Treloar) to MM 125 (Mokane)
MM 156.3 to MM 157.9 (in and around Wilton)
MM 161.6 to MM 162.5 (near Easley)
MM 168.5 to MM 170.9 (in and around McBaine)
MM 179 to MM 182.3 (just west of Rocheport)
The trail at MM 189.5 (between New Franklin and Boonville) is very rough, as are many other sections. Short patches of trail also may have minimal water coverage.
Gates have been opened in multiple locations to allow emergency vehicles use of the trail near flooded areas.
Extreme caution is advised to anyone using the trail. Trail users should avoid closed sections and should never go around closure fencing.
pain from Wentzville on 09/17/2008 08:44 AM
Like you said Arkie, very unfortunate news. We have a ride this weekend from St. Charles to Herman... but not looking very promising. Mother Nature can be such a b$^@h... Fingers are still crossed that waters will recede and things will get cleared off quickly.
Does anyone know if there is a number to call to see if they need help clearing the trail? I could probably take some time off thur or fri and run down with the atv and a chainsaw to help.
Debbie from Augusta on 09/17/2008 09:22 AM
I live in Augusta and have a B&B. I had three couples arrive yesterday. The trailhead in Augusta and the trail to Klondike Park is passable, my husband biked it last night. However, the trail from that point and into Defiance and beyond is closed until after Weldon Springs. West of Augusta, the trail is open to Marthasville, as of last night, because I had two couples ride that direction in the afternoon.
Arkie on 09/17/2008 09:53 AM
I just talked to DNR and they said that the Missouri is coming down as well as the tributaries and they would be back out on the trail ASAP. He did mention that the water has removed the fines down to the original ballast rock in some places.
Katy trail flooding/Augusta area
- + I live in Augusta, last night we were able to ride to Klondike Park, but no further east. I had to couples (we own a B&B) that rode into Marthasville late afternoon with no problem, however there wer...
Discussion started 09/17/2008 09:35 AM by Debbie - 0 repliesDebbie from Augusta on 09/17/2008 09:35 AM
I live in Augusta, last night we were able to ride to Klondike Park, but no further east. I had to couples (we own a B&B) that rode into Marthasville late afternoon with no problem, however there were signs posted that the trail was closed. I know for sure it is closed in Treloar. I will try to post again as the water recedes, may take a ride later in the afternoon to see how quickly the water goes down, but the trail will be sloggy and muddy and debris covered. Be especially careful at the bridges, the get slick and boards can become loose.
Flooding again
- + It looks like the trail is flooding east of Boonville again. Any one have any reports of damage? I know that McBaine was reported flooded on Sunday, Sept. 14, and the MKT trail into Columbia was flood...
Discussion started 09/15/2008 01:19 PM by gc - 6 replies (last reply by Doug at 09/16/2008 10:30 PM)gc from Columbia, Mo. on 09/15/2008 01:19 PM
It looks like the trail is flooding east of Boonville again. Any one have any reports of damage? I know that McBaine was reported flooded on Sunday, Sept. 14, and the MKT trail into Columbia was flooded in numerous places and was shut down for all intents and purposes. I would imagine there are multiple washout, too.
brad from st louis on 09/15/2008 01:35 PM
from mostateparks.com
9/15/08 -- The following sections of trail are closed due to flooding and flood damage:
MM 84.7 (Treloar) to MM 115.9 (Portland)
west of MM 121.4 (Steedman) to MM 125 (Mokane)
MM 169.5 (McBaine) to MM 170.9
MM 179 to MM 182.3 (just west of Rocheport)
The trail at MM 189.5 (between New Franklin and Boonville) is very rough, as are many other sections. Short patches of trail also may have minimal water coverage.
Gates have been opened in multiple locations to allow emergency vehicles use of the trail near flooded areas.
Extreme caution is advised to anyone using the trail. Trail users should avoid closed sections and should never go around closure fencing.
Anonymous on 09/15/2008 06:04 PM
Just rode from Dutzow to Matson and back. I can tell you there is two sections that you will have to walk your bike around some wash-out areas, no big deal only 10-20 yards of walking around damaged area, otherwise trail is passable from Dutzow to Matson. Some areas a little bumby due to running water on trail but nothing to slow you down. I actually ran into 2 state workers clearing the trail of down trees and such.
Dick from Marietta, GA on 09/16/2008 05:36 PM
Rode Boonville to Rocheport yesterday. About 300 yards just east of New Franklin was covered with water, sometimes up to the tire hub, but it was passable. Then, about 2 1/2 miles west of Rocheport, about 2 miles was under water, but we were able to get thru. [The directions that DNR left were backwards--Rocheport westward, not from the point of the flood eastward, so--being out of state--we were really confused.]
We road Hartsburg west, but could get only 2.3 miles towards Milton before the water was top-of-the-tire deep.
Rode Hartsburg-Jeff City this morning no problem. Rode Rocheport to the Columbia side trail--no water, but beyond the Columbia cutoff, it was severely rutted, deep holes at the bridge just before McBaine, and water on the trail east of McBaine, so we turned around.
Dick from Marietta, GA on 09/16/2008 05:45 PM
Just spoke with DNR superintendent and she said you can get thru Dutzow to Augusta, even though the website still said it was closed. Large tree down just west of Bluffton, but you can "carry" around it. 96.9 to 88 still underwater (I'm not sure if this was the road or the trail, sorry--my notes were incomplete!
Mike from O'Fallon, Mo on 09/16/2008 09:48 PM
Well that sounds ugly. We're getting ready to leave Friday for a trip from Sedalia to St. Charles but I'm finding it hard to believe that is actually a good idea anymore.
Doug from Bluffton on 09/16/2008 10:30 PM
the tree west of Bluffton has been cut up. Water has already started to recede at mile 111 so don't freak out about three days from now. If you are resourceful it can still be done even if you have to use some side roads.
Dotty's Cafe (Hartsburg)
- + My son and I had lunch at Dotty’s while on a trail ride the first week of September. Good food and friendly service. A fun place to stop, rest and eat. Awesome chocolate pie!
Discussion started 09/16/2008 08:42 PM by Darryl - 0 repliesDarryl from St. Louis on 09/16/2008 08:42 PM
My son and I had lunch at Dotty’s while on a trail ride the first week of September. Good food and friendly service. A fun place to stop, rest and eat. Awesome chocolate pie!
Darryl from St. Louis on 09/16/2008 08:42 PM
My son and I had lunch at Dotty’s while on a trail ride the first week of September. Good food and friendly service. A fun place to stop, rest and eat. Awesome chocolate pie!
Critter Cottage Bed & Breakfast (Marthasville)
- + I love Critter Cottage and all of its surrounding attractions! My boyfriend and I have stayed at Critter Cottage two times and were even given t-shirts from the hospitable Bob and Judy. The cottage i...
Discussion started 09/16/2008 02:07 PM by Emily & Nathan - 0 repliesEmily & Nathan from Saint Louis on 09/16/2008 02:07 PM
I love Critter Cottage and all of its surrounding attractions! My boyfriend and I have stayed at Critter Cottage two times and were even given t-shirts from the hospitable Bob and Judy. The cottage is cute, they provide a delicious breakfast and we hope to return soon.
Emily & Nathan from Saint Louis on 09/16/2008 02:07 PM
I love Critter Cottage and all of its surrounding attractions! My boyfriend and I have stayed at Critter Cottage two times and were even given t-shirts from the hospitable Bob and Judy. The cottage is cute, they provide a delicious breakfast and we hope to return soon.
Booneville campin
- + Can anyone tell me if you can camp near the river around Booneville/New Franklin?
Thanks!
Discussion started 09/15/2008 07:58 PM by Rick - 1 reply (last reply by Trek at 09/16/2008 08:31 AM)Rick from Wichita on 09/15/2008 07:58 PM
Can anyone tell me if you can camp near the river around Booneville/New Franklin?
Thanks!
Trek on 09/16/2008 08:31 AM
The Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin is a good place to camp:
Katy Roundhouse (New Franklin, Missouri)
Mile 188
1893 Katy Drive
New Franklin, MO 65274
660-848-2232 / 660-537-0238
www.katyroundhouse.com
St. Charles TH Parking
- + Planning to do another West to East trip and we would like to park a vehicle in St. Charles. According to the info on this site, overnight parking is not allowed at the St. Charles trailhead. Is thi...
Discussion started 09/15/2008 08:27 PM by Arkie - 0 repliesArkie on 09/15/2008 08:27 PM
Planning to do another West to East trip and we would like to park a vehicle in St. Charles. According to the info on this site, overnight parking is not allowed at the St. Charles trailhead. Is this still accurate? If so, any suggestions for a safe overnight spot? Thanks.
Turner Katy Trail Shelter Hostel (Tebbetts)
- + stayed there a few years bag w a group of 9. very clean had a great day on trail then had pizza at jims life is good! Hillbiller
Discussion started 09/15/2008 07:43 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous on 09/15/2008 07:43 PM
stayed there a few years bag w a group of 9. very clean had a great day on trail then had pizza at jims life is good! Hillbiller
Anonymous on 09/15/2008 07:43 PM
stayed there a few years bag w a group of 9. very clean had a great day on trail then had pizza at jims life is good! Hillbiller
2 day trip
- + We are planning a trip in October, riding from St. Charles to Augusta. Spending the night in a B&B and riding back the next day. Is this a scenic ride? We only have a couple of days to ride. Thanks!
Discussion started 09/12/2008 11:35 PM by Lisa C - 3 replies (last reply by Cliff at 09/15/2008 08:58 AM)Lisa C from Paducah KY on 09/12/2008 11:35 PM
We are planning a trip in October, riding from St. Charles to Augusta. Spending the night in a B&B and riding back the next day. Is this a scenic ride? We only have a couple of days to ride. Thanks!
Arkie on 09/13/2008 08:22 AM
It is scenic, not as much as the Rocheport to Jefferson City section, but quite pretty nonetheless. You will see some signs of the city, but there are some really nice sections of wetlands and railroad cuts. Augusta is a beautiful town and you will enjoy it.
Paul from Springfield on 09/13/2008 11:49 AM
We rode from St.Charles to Augusta and stayed at the Apple Inn. It was wonderful. Room was perfect; breakfast was fabulous. Owner was very hospitable. Would highly recommend
Cliff from Edwardsville KS on 09/15/2008 08:58 AM
Lisa, St Charles to Augusta is a nice ride but in my opinion it is not the most scenic section of the trail. Ater riding other sections of the trail my wife and I were disapointed with the scenery along this section. Augusta is a very nice little town and I am sure you will enjoy it. Be sure and take plenty of water because there is no water until you reach Defiance. You can get water at the bike shop in Defiance. If you want a real scenic ride I would recommend going to Rocheport or the Herman area, that's my favorite parts of the trail.