tires
- + We are wanting to ride from Clinto to Machens next spring / summer. I do see an occasional road bike on the trail and would like to know what tires that are being used. We would prefer to use road bik...
Discussion started 03/31/2012 09:22 AM by RC - 6 replies (last reply by anonymous at 04/03/2012 11:08 PM)RC from Calrk Mo on 03/31/2012 09:22 AM
We are wanting to ride from Clinto to Machens next spring / summer. I do see an occasional road bike on the trail and would like to know what tires that are being used. We would prefer to use road bikes as we have JUNK mountain bikes
Trek on 03/31/2012 12:47 PM
We've ride both hybrid half bikes and a tandem road bike on the Katy. The tandem has 700 28's on in it. Most of the miles on the Katy were on Bontrager hard case. We've recently switched to Continental Ultra Gatorskins of the same size.
Gene from Indiana on 03/31/2012 10:47 PM
Have ridden several times with 700C X 23 and 25s hard case tires. Seems to do all right. Would like 28s but my Trek won't allow the tire clearance. Decreased pressure to 100 lbs instead of 120. Bring your road bikes to the trail and ride a short distance.
dave from lowry city,mo. 64763 on 04/01/2012 09:04 PM
i have 700cx38 and also used 70cx35 both work great
Newbie from Farmington, AR on 04/01/2012 09:44 PM
You can ride anything you want to, and they will work with/without flats, vibration, wrecks, instability, etc. But why you would do a through trip on road bike tires? Sounds like a good time to buy a hybrid bike to me. I ride 700c x 38's. I also have a 26" tire mountain bike with 1.5" wide semi-slick tires and a drop bar handlbar. Both are great for the Katy. You don't need anything fanc--just a sound tuned up bike that has good rubber and fits you good enough to spend 6-7 hours a day on it.
Trek on 04/01/2012 10:55 PM
I'd do a through trip on the tandem with road bike tires for lower rolling resistance and increased speed. It's much more efficient than huge 30 plus width tires. It will be a much better trip on a decent road bike than on a junk mountain bike.
Anonymous on 04/03/2012 11:08 PM
I agree with the comment about a good bike and skinny tires than a junk bike on wider tires. Much better in my experience. I have ridden both the Bontrager Hard Case and Continential Ultra Gator Skins on the KATY with excellent results. I prefer the 28s on the KATY. After several 100 miles on the KATY I think that width is the best compromise. That's my 2 cents. Whatever you choose...ENJOY!
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- + I agree with the comment about a good bike and skinny tires than a junk bike on wider tires. Much better in my experience. I have ridden both the Bontrager Hard Case and Continential Ultra Gator Ski...
Discussion started 04/02/2012 02:10 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous on 04/02/2012 02:10 PM
I agree with the comment about a good bike and skinny tires than a junk bike on wider tires. Much better in my experience. I have ridden both the Bontrager Hard Case and Continential Ultra Gator Skins on the KATY with excellent results. I prefer the 28s on the KATY. After several 100 miles on the KATY I think that width is the best compromise. That's my 2 cents. Whatever you choose...ENJOY!
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Sedalia
- + Does anyone know when the showers and bathrooms open at the State fair campgrounds?
Discussion started 03/27/2012 05:48 PM by Allen - 2 replies (last reply by Allen at 04/02/2012 08:42 AM)Allen from Shawnee, KS on 03/27/2012 05:48 PM
Does anyone know when the showers and bathrooms open at the State fair campgrounds?
Darrell from Jeff City, MO. on 03/28/2012 08:14 PM
Allen, you can call them at 660-827-8104.
Allen on 04/02/2012 08:42 AM
Thanks Darrel
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Katy Roundhouse in New Franklin
- + Does anyone know if this campsite is dog-friendly?? It seems that not too many along the route are. It's really too bad...
Discussion started 03/30/2012 10:09 PM by anon - 2 replies (last reply by Doug at 03/31/2012 02:24 PM)anon from kc on 03/30/2012 10:09 PM
Does anyone know if this campsite is dog-friendly?? It seems that not too many along the route are. It's really too bad...
BIker on 03/31/2012 07:48 AM
My thoughts too....no dogs on A BIKE PATH is a shame......I love hearing your dog bark at me in the campground, and I really love stepping in his feces. I wish I could bring my 3 dogs with me on a bike ride too.........NOT. Maybe they have their reasons for not being "Dog friendly".
Doug from Bluffton on 03/31/2012 02:24 PM
Dogs are welcome with campers at my house. It's the owner that doesn't have their dog be quiet or pick up after them that isn't welcome here. I mean, the dog doesn't know from,,,, well, the dog doesn't know.
Camping in Dutzow?
- + Is there any camping in Dutzow? Obviously, it's not one of the listed services, but was wondering if anyone knows of any option that might not be listed. I know Marthasville has camping, but for var...
Discussion started 03/26/2012 05:12 PM by CueBallSTL - 4 replies (last reply by Jim at 03/30/2012 04:48 PM)CueBallSTL on 03/26/2012 05:12 PM
Is there any camping in Dutzow? Obviously, it's not one of the listed services, but was wondering if anyone knows of any option that might not be listed. I know Marthasville has camping, but for various reasons, that location doesn't work for us.
Anonymous on 03/27/2012 09:00 AM
Nothing advertized or talked about there. The church or city park there might allow something.
Kevin from Jeff City on 03/30/2012 01:00 PM
Marthasville is nearby...lots of camping there.
Anonymous on 03/30/2012 01:07 PM
Good idea. Even though Marthasville has camping and that location won't work for you for various reason, know that there are lots of places to camp there.
Jim from St. Thomas on 03/30/2012 04:48 PM
If you're not planning on having a fire I don't know that you would have a problem if you pitched a tent at the trailhead. Another option would be to call the deli and see if you could pay to camp behind their place.
Machens Overnight Parking?
- + Can you park overnight at the trail head in Machens? If so is it a safe place to leave your bike for 5 to 6 days or so?
Discussion started 03/29/2012 02:12 PM by Brian Prater - 4 replies (last reply by Anonymous at 03/30/2012 01:31 PM)Brian Prater from Findlay, OH on 03/29/2012 02:12 PM
Can you park overnight at the trail head in Machens? If so is it a safe place to leave your bike for 5 to 6 days or so?
JMiller from Hazelwood, MO on 03/29/2012 10:32 PM
There isn't an official parking lot at Machens, but there is one at Black Walnut which is only a few miles from Machens. It is located in a rural area. I'm not aware of any problems.
stevek from saint louis, MO on 03/30/2012 12:19 AM
Brian, what I do is call the St. Charles Police Dept. at (636)949-3300 and request that they give you permission to leave your car in Frontier Park's parking lot(there are signs up for no overnight parking allowed). They ask for license number, contact info, etc., but there is no charge. I always tell them I am leaving it right behind the the Country Inn & Suites hotel, so they have an approximate location. That will put you on the trail at Mile Marker(MM) 40 instead of Black Walnut(MM30), but I think it is a little better option.
BikerBoy from Edwardsville, IL on 03/30/2012 09:41 AM
Machens is a very remote area. On the one hand, I would not want to leave my car in an unlit area. But on the other hand, a burglar would have to be really desperate to go that far out of his way looking for valuables!
Anonymous on 03/30/2012 01:31 PM
Out of practicality, overnight parking at Machens or Black Walnut might work if your vehicle is a junker. Black Walnut has a real road going by it; Machens does not. Both are remote, but not so remote that party-folks, pranksters, and vandals do not know about them. It’s somewhat risky.
Most bicyclists ride to Machens and back from St Charles. Yet, one might find dependable parking in West Alton or Port de Sioux if one really wants to start from that end of the trail??
364 bridge to downtown st louis
- + I'm looking for a safe route to ride into downtown st louis from the 364 bridge, i see that olive blvd gets me there has anyone rode into downtown? please let me know my trip is coming up. I'm goin to...
Discussion started 03/26/2012 09:36 PM by W Steinhauer - 3 replies (last reply by JMiller at 03/29/2012 10:37 PM)W Steinhauer from Oak Brook Il on 03/26/2012 09:36 PM
I'm looking for a safe route to ride into downtown st louis from the 364 bridge, i see that olive blvd gets me there has anyone rode into downtown? please let me know my trip is coming up. I'm goin to new franklin and back with my gf we r so excited thank u!
Ray (webmaster) on 03/26/2012 09:49 PM
Don't know if you've seen this yet, but from the home page look for the link "How to get to Downtown St Louis and Mississippi River from the Katy Trail by bike" (next to the tiny picture of the Arch). This page lists a few different options. The information was assembled a few years ago, but is still accurate as far as I know. Any new suggestions are always welcome.
Good luck, and happy trails!
joed from webster groves mo on 03/27/2012 08:36 PM
you can take 364 across into creve coeur park.
After you leave the trail you can take Dorsett Rd and stay on this until midland. this takes you to the loop. Take Delmar to DeBaliviere to Lindell and Lindell will take you downtown safely.
JMiller from Hazelwood, MO on 03/29/2012 10:37 PM
Check out the Bike St. Louis website, bikestlouis.org. Also, all Metro buses and trains allow bikes.
- + My last question I made an error. I want to leave my car not my bike-sorry=;)
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My last question I made an error. I want to leave my car not my bike-sorry=;)
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Katy Trail Bed & Breakfast open for spring!
- + Katy Trail Bed & Bikefest in Rocheport is ready for your spring Katy Trail adventure! We've spent the long (never-ending?) spring renovating and gearing up our place like never before to be a great ho...
Discussion started 03/27/2012 09:36 AM by Tawnee Dufur - 4 replies (last reply by Tawnee Dufur, Owner Katy Trail B&B at 03/29/2012 12:22 PM)Tawnee Dufur from Rocheport on 03/27/2012 09:36 AM
Katy Trail Bed & Bikefest in Rocheport is ready for your spring Katy Trail adventure! We've spent the long (never-ending?) spring renovating and gearing up our place like never before to be a great home away from home for bikers riding the trail. We've got some great group lodging for groups of couples too. Our prices are the most affordable in town. Check us out at mile marker 178.5, right on the Katy Trail in Rocheport! We're one block from the Trailside Cafe Bike rental, and only a short walk to the Rocheport General Store - which has live music every weekend! www.katytrailbb.com
Pam O from Independence on 03/27/2012 07:11 PM
I urge everyone to spend some time at this establishment. Very inexpensive and enjoyed the accommodations last year. We liked it so much that Tawnee, we are pedaling and extra 13 miles on the second day of our Katy Trail trip just to stay with you and to top that, we are staying with you twice this year. See ya then.
Anonymous on 03/27/2012 07:56 PM
What's so good about it that you urge everyone to spend time there other than its inexpensive?
Pam O from Independence on 03/28/2012 10:25 PM
Clean,cozy,washer/dryer,nice breakfast accommodations(muffins,cereal etc),good beds, table/chairs to sit outside in the evening. Great place for large groups and families. Trail-side diner just down the trail(great burgers). Very quiet!! The owner doesn't hover over you as in other B&B. Just a nice change.
Tawnee Dufur, Owner Katy Trail B&B from Rocheport on 03/29/2012 12:22 PM
Wow, thank you so much for your wonderful comments! We sure do appreciate our guests and hope they do return year after year. We like to keep our rates significantly lower so that more diverse groups of people can come and enjoy this lovely stretch of the Katy Trail State Park and our great town of Rocheport! Brett and I want to keep our place simple and well kept and comfortable for our guests. Thank you Pam!
Clinton to Gladstone
- + Hi, I'm flying in from Maryland for my first ride on the Katy Trail from St. Charles to Clinton at the end of April. I'd like to continue my ride from Clinton to Gladstone but can't figure out from ma...
Discussion started 03/01/2012 10:17 PM by Denis - 11 replies (last reply by Anonymous at 03/27/2012 10:20 PM)Denis from Rockville, Maryland on 03/01/2012 10:17 PM
Hi, I'm flying in from Maryland for my first ride on the Katy Trail from St. Charles to Clinton at the end of April. I'd like to continue my ride from Clinton to Gladstone but can't figure out from maps if there is a safe way to bike from Clinton (or other spots on the Trail) to Gladstone. anhy advice appreciated, thanks, Denis
Anonymous on 03/02/2012 03:41 PM
Hi Denis,
A big concern might be where to cross the east-west running Missouri River. Should one do so way east of KC, and then come into Gladstone from the east; it is north of the river. This approach might work well?
Or should one take the big shoulder on Route-7 from Clinton to Harrisonville followed by taking Route-2 to south side of the city, and then going north by whatever route can be found.
The only two safe and legal bridges (w/bike lanes) to cross the river in KC are the Chouteau on the east side, or the Heart of America, dead center downtown. I’ve taken the latter several times. After crossing it north, take Route-9 north to Hwy-169 which takes you to Gladstone. It has a wide shoulder.
You should be able to figure out something from the Internet maps. Good luck. It’ll be fun.
Denis from Rockville, Maryland on 03/03/2012 11:00 AM
Thank you....very helpful.
Billy from Mokane on 03/09/2012 09:22 AM
I would find some other arrangements than to bike into Gladstone. But that's just me, I wouldn't bike in any big city traffic, unless I knew some out of the way roads. You might find those going to Gladstone. Good Luck.
Rick from Springfield, MO on 03/09/2012 09:26 AM
Denis,
I don't know much about either but I have driven highway 7 from Clinton to Harrisonville alot. It is 70 mph and pretty busy. However, I think I would be ok with riding on it.
Please post after your trip so that we know how it went.
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Ron S from Kansas City on 03/10/2012 09:28 AM
I am riding on Monday from KC to Clinton. From Belton I will use the old US 71 hwy, now frontage road. This is a low traffic route. HWY 7 is multi roadway with good paved shoulders. From Belton north is a bit of a challenge. You need to get to the Trolley Trail in Dodson for a safe ride into KC. Traffic is not the only problem. There are routes that go through EXTREMELY high crime areas. Try using the Map My Ride website. There may be an option up the east side. If all else fails and you need a ride the final short distance, I have a large van. You can contact me and I will take you where you want to go. No charge except gas if I have to go far as this thing only gets about 12 mpg.
Billy from Mokane on 03/11/2012 07:55 AM
Cool Reply, Ron S....
Denis from Rockville, Maryland on 03/22/2012 08:36 PM
Thanks to all for their helpful advise and offers, esp. regarding traffic/crime. since i retired I've been riding across several states per year. Really like to get across MO since I have lots of in-laws between Overland and St. Joe. Just entered second questions...does getting off the Katy in Sedalia(or Booneville)offer any better, safer, options for getting to Gladstone. Thanks again
Anon on 03/23/2012 10:06 AM
According to the map, either town would get you to Marshall, MO, and then to Lexington (cross river here), and on to Liberty and Gladstone.
Don't know these roads well. But this approach could work well. I've ridden group rides near Richmond, Excelsior Springs, and Liberty. These state routes and backroads are not bad.
Cross country riders have taken Hwy-50 into or from KC proper, but usually not to/from north of the MO river.
Denis from Rockville, Maryland on 03/23/2012 09:51 PM
As much as I'd like to go all the way to Clinton, I like your suggestion of heading to Marshall from Booneville or Saldalia and heading to Gladstone from there. Just looking at the bike routes listed on google maps, from marshall to gladstone and they show 2 ways to go, each about 90 miles, the northern route crosses the Missouri near Waverly and the other route crosses the river near lexington. Like the idea that I'd be traveling primarily on county and state roads, which if like where i live in Md are usually pretty safe. Would you please check both route on google maps for biking and let me know what you think? If it gets to crazy as I approach gladstone can always have someone pick me up. Also like to pass on 2 great rides I did this year that I think are very much like the Katy. The Great Allegheny Trail from Pittsburgh to Cumberland MD (140 miles) then continuing from Cumberland to Georgetown, DC along the Potomac on the C&O Canal (185). Also did Erie Canal from Buffalo, NY to Albany (380)....both were fantastic, Thanks again, Denis
Anonymous on 03/27/2012 10:20 PM
Except for passing under Hwy-35, there's still a lot of 'country' between Liberty & Gladsotne. In my opinion, Gladstone in not hectic. But I don't know all of it well. Enjoy.
ride to Clinton
- + need a ride to Clinton Missouri June 22 Friday. Riding back to St Louis on the trail
Discussion started 03/21/2012 08:50 PM by Joe D - 3 replies (last reply by joed at 03/27/2012 08:33 PM)Joe D from Webster Groves Missouri on 03/21/2012 08:50 PM
need a ride to Clinton Missouri June 22 Friday. Riding back to St Louis on the trail
Tess from OFallon, MO on 03/24/2012 03:20 PM
Ask the bike shop in Defiance. They have a share-a-ride sign behind the counter.
Rhona Lococo from St Charles on 03/25/2012 06:37 PM
give us a call at Lococo House II & III, Bed & Breakfast we do shuttling to Clinton, 636-946-0619 or checkout web site www.lococohouse.com
joed from webster groves mo on 03/27/2012 08:33 PM
I will call you for more info
thank you!
Joe
Sedalia campgrounds
- + Does anyone know when they open the bathrooms and showers at the campgrounds?
Discussion started 03/27/2012 01:54 PM by Allen - 0 repliesAllen from Shawnee, KS on 03/27/2012 01:54 PM
Does anyone know when they open the bathrooms and showers at the campgrounds?
Jefferson City Parking advice
- + Me and my buddy are going to do a 3 day trip on the Katy in June. Any advice on a safe place to leave a truck for 3 days? Thanks !!
Discussion started 03/22/2012 02:56 PM by gabe rodgers - 3 replies (last reply by Trek at 03/26/2012 07:05 PM)gabe rodgers from springfield on 03/22/2012 02:56 PM
Me and my buddy are going to do a 3 day trip on the Katy in June. Any advice on a safe place to leave a truck for 3 days? Thanks !!
Billy from Mokane on 03/24/2012 04:58 PM
Start in Clinton, leave car in community center
lot across the street from the trail head. Tell them what you are doing and they will lookout for your car, should be safe, unless you have some really cool wheels.... Just kidding about wheels.
gabe rodgers from springfield on 03/26/2012 03:35 PM
Yeah thats where i normally park and that is the ideal parking situation but I am wanting to see some new parts of the trail. So far I have heard the commuter lot near the trail is the best place to park.
Thanks
Trek on 03/26/2012 07:05 PM
I've parked at the trailheads in Sedalia, Boonville, Rocheport, Hartsburg and Tebbetts and never had any problems. I've also used the parking garage near Flat Branch in Columbia. North Jefferson has not got good reviews here and is a bit remote for me.
Hartsburg - Big Muddy Tavern
- + Big Muddy Tavern provided great food and great service for a reasonable price on our ride from Jeff City to Hartsburg today.
Discussion started 03/25/2012 04:49 PM by Jeff City Cruiser - 0 repliesJeff City Cruiser from Bevier, MO on 03/25/2012 04:49 PM
Big Muddy Tavern provided great food and great service for a reasonable price on our ride from Jeff City to Hartsburg today.