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 -  + Want to ride in October or November staying at BandB's. Is this too late. Too Cold: Too wet? are taking novice riders and want them to have a good trip!!
Discussion started 07/23/2010 04:27 PM by BDH333 - 3 replies (last reply by ktytrfan at 07/24/2010 09:48 PM)
BDH333 from nashville on 07/23/2010 04:27 PM
Want to ride in October or November staying at BandB's. Is this too late. Too Cold: Too wet? are taking novice riders and want them to have a good trip!!

 
Cathy from Jefferson City on 07/23/2010 10:57 PM
You may want to check on when DNR (the state agency that oversees the trail, as it is a state park) turns the water off at the trailheads and locks the bathrooms for the winter season. I forget if they do that in November or later. But in October you will probably get some nice weather, and the bathrooms will be working. The earlier you go in October the better. Sometimes around Halloween we seem to get some cold rainy weather in Central Missouri.

 
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts on 07/23/2010 11:01 PM
The "Plan a Ride" link above is a good place to start. Towards the bottom of that page there is a link to the weather conditions you can expect during the year.

 
ktytrfan from Hannibal on 07/24/2010 09:48 PM
I agree with the earlier in October the better. I have ridden the Katy in mid to late October, early November, but one is always taking a chance to do so and since you have novice riders with you, why take a chance on it being cold and miserable. Also, the leaves should be turning by the first part of October; so that should make for an enjoyable and scenic adventure.


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Whole trail (End-To-End) in 24 hours?
 -  + Some friends and I just rode from Clinton to StCharles this weekend, and started discussing the possibility of doing the entire trail in one 24 hour period (next year).
We are thinking that by ridi...
Discussion started 06/28/2010 09:09 AM by SteveM. - 6 replies (last reply by Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail State Park Coordinator at 07/24/2010 10:57 AM)
SteveM. from Festus on 06/28/2010 09:09 AM
Some friends and I just rode from Clinton to StCharles this weekend, and started discussing the possibility of doing the entire trail in one 24 hour period (next year).
We are thinking that by riding Does anyone on this board have experience with riding on the KATY at night?on a clear night with a full or nearly full moon, and having some good lights, we should be able to keep moving all night long (albeit a little more slowly than in the daytime), and complete the whole ride in one 24 hour period.

 
anonymous on 06/28/2010 09:31 AM
You are a younger rider than many on this board I am assuming. Just a guess.

 
SteveM. from Festus on 06/28/2010 09:35 AM
Possibly - I was born in the '60's.

 
Maggie from Kansas on 06/28/2010 10:21 AM
Isn't the park closed at sundown?

 
anonymous on 06/28/2010 10:46 AM
It sure is.

 
Burt on 07/22/2010 05:50 PM
It is very posible. Just bring your own water and food. Nothing is open.

 
Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail State Park Coordinator on 07/24/2010 10:57 AM
Katy Trail State Park is a sunrise to sunset park, which means it closes at sunset. We ask that you do not ride at night, since it is considered trespassing. Thanks.


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Clinton Trailhead
 -  + I'm in the process of a cross country trip and was interested in the base way by BICYLE to get to Clinton from Kansas City?
Discussion started 07/18/2010 03:52 PM by anonymous - 2 replies (last reply by anonymous at 07/23/2010 10:48 AM)
anonymous on 07/18/2010 03:52 PM
I'm in the process of a cross country trip and was interested in the base way by BICYLE to get to Clinton from Kansas City?

 
Gene on 07/23/2010 12:23 AM
If you are camping, the campsite in Clinton is on the fairgrounds property behind the Clinton Community Center which is near the trailhead.

 
anonymous on 07/23/2010 10:48 AM
Sounds like you're taking a northern cross-country route. If so, you'll need to study the maps closely to get around or thru KC. Some riders want to spend time in KC (entertainment district; plaza, BBQ, 18th & Vine Jazz, art museusms etc), while others want to get to Clinton as soon as possible. Either way, one idea is to get to MO-7 on the south side of Harrisonville (south of KC) which goes directly to the Clinton trailhead by Hwy-52. That can be achieved by dropping south on either side of KC, or by gradually making your way thru the city. Good luck. Many cross-country riders enjoy the off-road Katy Trail ride.


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Trailside Cafe & Bike Shop (Rocheport)
 -  + Hey, y'all! Remember that Trailside, both the Cafe *and* the Bike Shop, are closed on WED! I noted that a number of folks were "surprised" by this fact on WED (I sat at one of their tables waiting for...
Discussion started 06/20/2010 12:05 PM by Bill - 3 replies (last reply by anonymous at 07/23/2010 10:37 AM)
Bill from KC Area on 06/20/2010 12:05 PM
Hey, y'all! Remember that Trailside, both the Cafe *and* the Bike Shop, are closed on WED! I noted that a number of folks were "surprised" by this fact on WED (I sat at one of their tables waiting for my ride). Just a heads up.....

 
anonymous on 06/20/2010 01:38 PM
But if is not Wed, a good place to stop. Good food, friendly folks, full bike shop and right on the trail. We stopped in May after trudging through rain long enough and it was a welcome respite.

 
Bill from KC Area on 07/22/2010 09:55 PM
...and today (22JUL) being THU, my wife and I stopped at Trailside for burgers after riding near Tebbets earlier in the day. Beef with regular fries for her, and a buffalo burger with sweet 'tater fries for me. Fresh lettuce, tomatoes, dill pickles, and onion complimented both. A wonderful way to end several days of riding on the KATY.

 
anonymous on 07/23/2010 10:37 AM
The Trailside Cafe is great. On Wednesdays, however, aren't the other ones on the old downtown strip two-or-so blocks up the trail from it open then?


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Green Ridge
 -  + Took a nice ride up the trail near Green Ridge and ended the day at Burf's Bar & Grill. Friendly crowd and Michelob on tab! Our waitress, Sheila, never let our frosty mugs go warm or empty. Best tende...
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Deedle from Knob Noster on 07/22/2010 10:45 PM
Took a nice ride up the trail near Green Ridge and ended the day at Burf's Bar & Grill. Friendly crowd and Michelob on tab! Our waitress, Sheila, never let our frosty mugs go warm or empty. Best tenderloin I've ever had. Excellent Reuben sandwich. Burf's will be a frequent stop for my friends and me.


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Riverfront Bar & Grill (Portland)
 -  + We tried to eat here at the end of June and upon arrival they are closed on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Not sure if this is a temporary thing so I would reccomend calling, especially since there is no...
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anonymous on 07/20/2010 07:45 PM
We tried to eat here at the end of June and upon arrival they are closed on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Not sure if this is a temporary thing so I would reccomend calling, especially since there is not another eating establishment within ten miles. There is however a man at the bed and breakfast in Bluffton who has frozen pizza's for $10, and Steamboat Junction's snack stand was a blessing on this day.

 
anonymous on 07/21/2010 09:19 AM
A couple of earlier but recent posts indicate the Riverfront Bar in Portland has been auctioned off by its owner of the last 19-years. Maybe somebody will take it over? Typically tho, these kind of places do not open early in the morning or early in the week.


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Hartsburg
 -  + LOVE this town. Camped in the park (under the gazebo as it looked like rain). Everyone was
super friendly and the BIg Muddy was a fun bar to spend a few hours "rehydrating" in. Many
thanks to ...
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jowottowa on 06/13/2010 09:44 PM
LOVE this town. Camped in the park (under the gazebo as it looked like rain). Everyone was

super friendly and the BIg Muddy was a fun bar to spend a few hours "rehydrating" in. Many

thanks to the locals for the hospitality. Cant wait to visit again soon.


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29ers
 -  + Has anyone ever heard of someone riding a single speed 29er thru the whole trail? If so when and how long did it take them? The trail is wonderful, I was surprised not more people are using it..
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AW from KC on 06/13/2010 06:02 PM
Has anyone ever heard of someone riding a single speed 29er thru the whole trail? If so when and how long did it take them? The trail is wonderful, I was surprised not more people are using it..


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Cruce's Cabooses (Calhoun)
 -  + I remember Patti telling us at one of our Penney High Reunions that she and her husband had bought two cabooses and were going to turn them into Bed and Breakfasts. I would love more info and wonder ...
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Barb Kinne Pierce from Originally Hamilton, now Maryville, MO on 04/20/2010 08:46 AM
I remember Patti telling us at one of our Penney High Reunions that she and her husband had bought two cabooses and were going to turn them into Bed and Breakfasts. I would love more info and wonder if I just missed availability and prices? Thank you for more into. Barb

 
Barb Kinne Pierce from Originally Hamilton, now Maryville, MO on 04/20/2010 08:46 AM
I remember Patti telling us at one of our Penney High Reunions that she and her husband had bought two cabooses and were going to turn them into Bed and Breakfasts. I would love more info and wonder if I just missed availability and prices? Thank you for more into. Barb

 
DAMAON from CALHOUN on 05/11/2010 12:29 AM
BARB, GO TO OUR WEB PAGE AT WWW.CRUCESCABOOSES.COM AND THERE IS LOTS OF INFO AND PRICES.

THANKS,

DAMON & PATTI

 
DAMAON from CALHOUN on 05/11/2010 12:29 AM
BARB, GO TO OUR WEB PAGE AT WWW.CRUCESCABOOSES.COM AND THERE IS LOTS OF INFO AND PRICES.

THANKS,

DAMON & PATTI

 
DAMON from CALHOUN on 05/11/2010 12:30 AM
BARB, GO TO OUR WEB PAGE AT WWW.CRUCESCABOOSES.COM AND THERE IS LOTS OF INFO AND PRICES.

THANKS,

DAMON & PATTI

 
DAMON from CALHOUN on 05/11/2010 12:30 AM
BARB, GO TO OUR WEB PAGE AT WWW.CRUCESCABOOSES.COM AND THERE IS LOTS OF INFO AND PRICES.

THANKS,

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Information about the 20th Anniversary Celebration
 -  + The link in the Events search leads to the following on the DNR website about the 20th Anniversary of the Katy Trail:

20th Anniversary Event

An event will be held on Saturday, May 8, 201...
Discussion started 04/26/2010 09:21 PM by Trek - 6 replies (last reply by Trek at 05/10/2010 06:50 PM)
Trek on 04/26/2010 09:21 PM
The link in the Events search leads to the following on the DNR website about the 20th Anniversary of the Katy Trail:



20th Anniversary Event



An event will be held on Saturday, May 8, 2010, in Rocheport to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the April 28, 1990, official opening of the trail. A ceremony will be held to recognize Pat Jones and other founders who helped make the trail a reality. The event will also feature a walk to the Ted Jones Memorial and a commemorative bike ride.



With just a couple of weeks away.....does anyone know where more specific details are published. Such as....What time is the ceremony...is it at the trailhead...the memorial...When is the walk and the bike ride?? How long is the bike ride? What is the fee to ride the ride???

 
Gary from near Tebbetts on 04/26/2010 10:55 PM
I have it on my calendar that it goes from 2 to 6 pm.

 
Trek on 04/27/2010 03:15 PM
Thanks Gary. Anyone else know more??

 
Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator on 04/28/2010 09:41 AM
The kick-off event at Rocheport for the 20th anniversary celebration is scheduled from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. There will be an official ceremony at 2 p.m., after which there will be an unveiling of a special anniversary panel for the info depot, a cake cutting ceremony, a walk to the Jones Memorial and a bike ride to McBaine. The community of Rocheport is also hosting a Blues Festival and Cruising Classic Cars in conjunction with the event. The cars will be on display 12:00-4:00 p.m. along the streets of Rocheport and Central Street will be blocked off with live music beginning at 12 p.m. and going until 10:00 pm.

 
Trek on 05/05/2010 09:24 AM
From Kansas City InfoZine yesterday:



The 20th anniversary of the nation's longest rail-trail conversion project will be celebrated May 8 at the Katy Trail State Park trailhead at Rocheport. The festivities will begin at 1 p.m. with the anniversary ceremony at 2 p.m.



Gov. Jay Nixon will be the keynote speaker for the event. A special honoree will be Pat Jones, who along with her late husband, Ted, gave the initial donation to make Katy Trail State Park possible. Other speakers will include Darwin Hindman, chairman of the Katy Trail Coalition; Norman Eaker, representing Edward Jones, the financial services firm that is the official sponsor of the 20th anniversary events; and Rep. Chris Kelly of Columbia. Bill Bryan, director of the Department of Natural Resources' Division of State Parks, will be the master of ceremonies.



The exhibit area opens at 1 p.m. with special displays from the communities along the 225-mile corridor of the trail from St. Charles to Clinton . Katy Trail merchandise will be on sale. A presentation on the history of Katy Trail State Park will be available in the Rocheport depot at 1 p.m. and 3:30 p.m.



Following the ceremony at 2 p.m., participants are invited to walk to the Ted Jones Memorial on the trail. Darwin Hindman will lead a commemorative ride to Hindman Junction.



Music and refreshments will be available during the event. In conjunction with the ceremony, the community of Rocheport is planning musical entertainment and a car show.



Katy Trail State Park is built on the railbed of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad, which ceased operations in 1986. The first section of Katy Trail was dedicated on April 28, 1990 at Rocheport. This summer, work will begin on extending the trail approximately 12 miles from St. Charles to Machens. Plans are also in progress to connect the Katy Trail at Windsor into Pleasant Hill using the Rock Island Railroad corridor.

 
Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 05/06/2010 05:02 PM
Dawn and Trek, thanks for all of the info, it sounds like a fun and interesting time to be had. I hope to see some of you there, I'll be the guy on the bicycle.

 
Trek on 05/10/2010 06:50 PM
The 20th celebration was quite an event! Several guys on bikes.....we figured they were all Darrell.....and his other brothers, Darrell.


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Pedaler's Jamboree
 -  + Getting excited about this event as while I've been riding the Katy for the past few years I've never participated in any of their organized events! Anyone else getting on at the Columbia location???
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Robin from Macon, MO on 05/10/2010 03:12 PM
Getting excited about this event as while I've been riding the Katy for the past few years I've never participated in any of their organized events! Anyone else getting on at the Columbia location???


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amtrak 5 bikes?
 -  + I know Amtrak says they have space for 4 bikes. I need to get 5 bikes on. Are they flexible on that? I was thinking if they would not allow it I would buy another ticket or take a bike apart and st...
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Kwog on 05/06/2010 11:16 AM
I know Amtrak says they have space for 4 bikes. I need to get 5 bikes on. Are they flexible on that? I was thinking if they would not allow it I would buy another ticket or take a bike apart and strap pieces to the other bikes and claim they are spares. That's a spare frame just in case, that's a spare rim. Any thoughts, I spoke with Amtrak people but they are of no help and can't do anything but tell me what I already know. Has anyone put more than 4 bikes on a train? It's probably a call only the conductor could make, there is nobody manning a phone at the Sedalia station to answer this.



Thanks in advance,



Kwog

 
Doug from Bluffton on 05/06/2010 08:43 PM
Have you considered one of the shuttle services? It might be less expensive for five people with bikes than the train depending on the distance. It will definitely be more convenient with door to door or trailhead to trailhead service. There are several of us along the trail that could take care of your needs.

 
kim from independence, mo on 05/10/2010 05:12 AM
When we got on in Hermann a couple of years ago with our tickets, and tickets for two bikes, there were already five bikes on the train (they had given away our spots in St. Louis). We managed by strapping the bikes to a door handle in the back of the car.



So, the story you get when you call & reserve is different than if you just get on without reservations. The price is alot more too, from what I've heard. I would imagine that if you have the 4 bike spots reserved (and they haven't given them away), you would be able to strap an extra bike to them and pay (probably alot more) for that extra bike when getting on... that being said, with Amtrak there are NO GUARANTEES, not even when you have bike tickets!


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Trail riding with a road bike.
 -  + I am in the process of making some modifications to a road bike that I would like to use for trail riding. I have added MTB handlebars and fitted it with new levers and cables. The problem that I am...
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I am in the process of making some modifications to a road bike that I would like to use for trail riding. I have added MTB handlebars and fitted it with new levers and cables. The problem that I am running into is that I can not find a tire with the correct height clearance. I have plenty of width. Any advice on a pair of tires that will not break the bank that have a low height? I'm looking for something in the $20-$30 range.

 
MLH from Overland Park, KS on 08/03/2009 10:38 AM
Do 700 X 28mm's fit on your bike as they do with most other road bikes? If so, consider Hutchinson Pythons. The tread and belts are ideal for the trails but they are heavier than pure road tires. They have these in 32's also but I'm guessing those won't fit.



Check their website. The companies don't tend to list the cross-sectional height of the tires but they may respond to an email.

 
erik anderson on 08/04/2009 08:18 AM
Thanks MLH.

 
MLH from Overland Park, KS on 08/04/2009 09:53 AM
Erik I made a mistake in my post. The Hutchinson model that I meant for you is the ACROBAT 700 X 28, not the Python. Sorry about that.

 
chris on 08/05/2009 09:01 AM
Used the Acrobats on a ride from Clinton to St. Charles in May and really liked them.

 
Springfield JD from Springfield, MO on 05/09/2010 08:47 AM
I used Continental Ultra Gatorskins size 700 X 28 for entire trail without flattening and even after a severe downpour it didn't sink into the crushed limestone.

 
Anonymous on 05/09/2010 04:01 PM
I rode the trail on 700x25 bontrager slicks once. The ony flat I got was on the paved road in Sedalia. Ironic?



Like the others mentioned, I would go with a 700x28 tire with a slight knobbie tread. The 28s should fit any road bike.


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Ben Franklin Coffee House (Clinton)
 -  + A gem on the downtown Clinton Square. It is beautifully decorated with antiques in the original Ben Franklin Five and Dime building.
The food was delicious and the service excellent.

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Janet Seymour from Springfield, MO on 05/08/2010 08:53 PM
A gem on the downtown Clinton Square. It is beautifully decorated with antiques in the original Ben Franklin Five and Dime building.

The food was delicious and the service excellent.


 
Janet Seymour from Springfield, MO on 05/08/2010 08:53 PM
A gem on the downtown Clinton Square. It is beautifully decorated with antiques in the original Ben Franklin Five and Dime building.

The food was delicious and the service excellent.


 
Anonymous on 05/09/2010 10:23 AM
Tell us about your Katy trail bike ride experience!

 
Anonymous on 05/09/2010 10:23 AM
Tell us about your Katy trail bike ride experience!


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A pleasant stay at Maxine's Rooms for Rent.
 -  + Recently had the pleasure of staying at Maxine’s Rooms for Rent, in Sedalia. Maxine’s is just a few blocks from the Katy Trail making it easy to get to at the end of the day and from on the morning s...
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Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 05/09/2010 12:41 AM
Recently had the pleasure of staying at Maxine’s Rooms for Rent, in Sedalia. Maxine’s is just a few blocks from the Katy Trail making it easy to get to at the end of the day and from on the morning start. Maxine and Pete are friendly and nice people. After arriving in Sedalia by train, I had dropped off my panniers and took a short ride on the trail. You can’t take fuel on the train so I needed to get fuel for my stove, while I was gone Pete picked up fuel for me. Greatly appreciated Pete! Had good conversation and a comfortable room, with a very good selection to choose from for breakfast. Had an enjoyable stay at Maxine‘s, that exceeded my expectations. Will stay there again if possible, when in Sedalia.


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Angels Bed and Breakfast Inn (Hermann)
 -  + No longer a B&B
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a123 on 05/08/2010 02:56 PM
No longer a B&B

 
a123 on 05/08/2010 02:56 PM
No longer a B&B


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Help with directions from St. Louis to Treloar Trailhead (Parking)???
 -  + Hoping someone can suggest the best route to take (driving) to get from St. Louis (270/40) to the parking lot at Treloar Trailhead.
Appreciated.
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Anonymous from St. Louis on 05/07/2010 10:52 PM
Hoping someone can suggest the best route to take (driving) to get from St. Louis (270/40) to the parking lot at Treloar Trailhead.

Appreciated.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 05/08/2010 01:27 PM
Take 70 west to Warrenton exit, 47 south to N, turn right and go thru Holstein to Treloar. Check on MapQuest if you want to print it out


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KC to Clinton by bus?
 -  + I am flying into KC soon, sending my bike to Clinton via FedEx to ride the Trail. How can I get from KC to Clinton? I'm having trouble interpreting the bus schedules on line.
Discussion started 05/06/2010 04:28 PM by Pubmeister - 4 replies (last reply by Pubmeister at 05/07/2010 05:06 PM)
Pubmeister from Sonoma, CA on 05/06/2010 04:28 PM
I am flying into KC soon, sending my bike to Clinton via FedEx to ride the Trail. How can I get from KC to Clinton? I'm having trouble interpreting the bus schedules on line.

 
R A from Kansas City on 05/07/2010 09:16 AM
The KC metro buses do not run as far as Clinton (that I know of). It is around 120 miles from KCI Airport to Clinton. I looked and Greyhound does not have a scheduled stop in Clinton, they go though Clinton though and might let you off there. When are you planning your trip?

 
Pubmeister from Sonoma, CA on 05/07/2010 09:57 AM
Thanks for the info. I am coming to KC on Monday the 17th of this month, just bought the tickets. I am thinking that I will be better off to FedEx the bike to KC, put it on an Amtrak and train to Sedalia and start there. It seems simpler and I won't miss but about 35 miles of the Trail, and that part is not along the River.



Does that sound like a workable plan?

 
R A from Kansas City on 05/07/2010 10:51 AM
Sounds like a plan. I rode that section you would be missing last Sunday. It was spongy from recent rain and a little beat up (they allow horses on that section of the trail and there was some kind horse rally the weekend before). Still not a bad ride though.



Depending on what time you land I live within 20 minutes of KCI and might be able to help you out if you needed it.

 
Pubmeister from Sonoma, CA on 05/07/2010 05:06 PM
Very generous offer. I believe I have everything covered but it's nice to know that I have a resource if I need a question answered. Stay tuned.


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BEWARE OF THIEVES!
 -  + Family of four enjoyed a short ride(only gone an hour)from the parking lot on the west side of the Page Extension bridge but returned to a busted-out window in our vehicle and several missing items. ...
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CW from St. Louis on 05/07/2010 02:40 PM
Family of four enjoyed a short ride(only gone an hour)from the parking lot on the west side of the Page Extension bridge but returned to a busted-out window in our vehicle and several missing items. We weren't the only car on the lot that was vandalized. Police officers said it happens all the time. If you choose to park there, lock your car and leave it completely void of anything including pocket change in the cup holder.


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