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gc from Columbia, Mo on 11/05/2005 09:05 PM
As I sit here righting this, it is raining in Mid-Missouri. Does anyone have any idea how long it takes for the trail to dry out? This has been a pretty good rain, but it was the first in a while and the sun is expected to be out tomorrow with temps ranging from 41 and up to 60. Any ideas?

savage24 from KC,MO on 11/05/2005 09:55 PM
Go ride tomorrow afternoon!!

The trail drains very well in most places. Memorial Day 2004 I had planned to ride with my niece, but we had severe thunderstorms in the early afternoon. I had given up on the idea of riding and we were just waiting out the storms and tornado warnings at my cousins house until we could head home. The storms past and the sun came out and she still wanted to ride so we hit the trail about 4:30 and rode 9 miles with no problems. You may run through a few soft spots or have to dodge a few puddles, but the plus side is there will be no dust.

gc from Columbia, Mo on 11/05/2005 10:53 PM
Cool! I am actually a walker, but this is the best site I have found on the trail. I am hoping to convince my wife to do the New Franklin to Rocheport section with me tomorrow morning. I KNOW she is going to use the rain as an excuse, so now I have some ammunition for my counter-argument.

parking in clinton
applea from plattsburg mo on 10/16/2005 11:43 AM
We are planning a bike ride from clinton to rocheport, and need info on parking in clinton and safety concerns with the vechiles.

Trailriders Sports from Clinton Mo on 11/05/2005 09:01 AM
There is parking at the trailhead and at the community center across the street that is watched by the police department. It would not hurt to notify them also.

Camping in Clinton
Ben from Imperial, MO on 09/28/2005 09:38 AM
I am planning a trip for next May, where some friends and I will bike the whole trail. We are going to start in Clinton I was wondering if anyone knew of a place to stay in Clinton. We are coming from different parts of the state and will need a place to stay, so we can get a fresh start in the morning. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/30/2005 09:05 PM
I just got back from biking the Katy and am about to post an "ADVISE" topic...be sure to read it!

Ben from Imperial, MO on 10/19/2005 07:23 AM
Gretchen I have been looking forward to your ADVISE post, but have yet to see it go up. If anyone else has any ideas on lodging in Clinton I would greatly appreciat it.

RBRLIP from Washington, MO on 10/24/2005 02:23 PM
By next May our company hopes to have at least 2 out our 5-10 properties open for business. Be sure to check out our web site for more information. www.mattnmeiers.com

Rob Meier, Co-founder Mattnmeier's Recreational Services, LLC

Trailriders Sports from Clinton Mo on 11/05/2005 08:55 AM
There are a number of Motels close to the trailhead. Best Western, Super 8 within a mile, also many resturants. Camping at the community center across from trail head. Bike shop on the square in clinton with shuttle service.Can be contacted at trailridersports@yahoo.com

katy bike rental
frank umbdenstock from festus, mo on 11/04/2005 07:20 PM
me and my 9 y.o g'son (one of six g'sons) rode the katy trail today from defiance to weldon springs and back. even though we did not go very far (6 miles round trip) it was a great day for it, and we had fun. we then stopped off at the katy bike rental in defiance. the owner was fantastic. very courteous, friendly, and helpful. we had some ted drewes ice cream and drinks, then sat at one of the picnic tables in the yard and enjoyed them. if ever in or through defiance, stop off at the katy bike rental. smacks are great and service is fantastic.

John El's BBQ
v.w. from kansas city on 11/04/2005 12:05 PM
Although John El's BBQ is mentioned in another comment, it's not listed as an amenity. On our recent ride Becky's was closed when we got there. Asked at the historical society and a nice couple recommended John El's. Homey and tasty, very reasonably priced.

Cracked Crab (Rocheport)
Tim from Kansas City on 11/03/2005 05:09 PM
A great little place!!

Cliff Manor Bed & Breakfast Inn (Jefferson City)
Alice from Huntsville, AL on 11/03/2005 09:19 AM
We enjoyed our stay at the Cliff Manor B&B. The room was beautiful, breakfast was delicious, and the hosts were very helpful and accomodating. We also enjoyed walking to dinner from the B&B and walking around Jefferson City in the evening.

Concord Hill B&B (Peers)
Alice from Huntsville, AL on 11/03/2005 09:16 AM
We stayed at the Concord Hill B&B after a long ride on the Katy Trail. We had ridden over 70 miles, it was getting late, and we were ready for the hot tub when we got there! They were extremely nice, and actually drove and picked up our dinner (at the only restaurant open, in a nearby town) while we relaxed in the hot tub. The breakfast the next morning was outstanding also.

New Katy Trail Business Spring 2006
RBRLIP from Washington, MO on 10/23/2005 12:25 PM
Looking for suggestions and comments on new business I'm starting along the Katy Trail... 5-10 locations which will have camping sites, cabins, and a variety of other services. For more information check out our web site (it too is a work in progress) at www.mattnmeiers.com.

RBRLIP from Washington, MO on 10/31/2005 08:18 AM
Our web site continues to improve as more and more comments and suggestions come in... My thanks to Every One for their help. Please continue to send us your comments and suggestions,,, good or bad. We Love hearing from ya's.

Anonymous on 10/31/2005 01:24 PM
Not sure you noticed or not, but you are responding to your own post there dude. Talking to yourself. Two words my friend. Main. Tain.

Although I wish you well in your venture, I think we all get the point. You have posted here numerous times under every imaginable totally unrelated topic. I'm more interested in seeing what you have other than a pipe dream.

Also, I don't think this comment from your website is a true statement. "Currently those who wish to travel the entire length of the trail will have to make several arrangements with many different businesses for all their needs from shelter, food, and shuttle transportation." There are several organizations who do guided tours the length of the Katy. And, what about the DNR ride every June? One organization. One phone call.

You may be new to starting a business of this type, but please don't insult our intelligence in your efforts to do so. That will only keep me comfortably riding past to an already established place of business.

Red Brick Inn (Augusta)
Dr.and Mrs. Larry Lowe from Belleville, Illinois on 10/30/2005 06:00 PM
My husband and I stayed at the Red Brick Inn on October 16, 2005. Our experience was wonderful from the time we arrived until we left the next morning. The Inn is absolutely beautiful, a fully restored 19th century home, decorated perfectly with antiques and wonderful art. We can't wait to return.

Places to stay in Rocheport
bikerLaura from Round Lake, IL on 08/10/2005 09:02 PM
I'm considering staying in Rocheport in late September. Are there places to stay other than B&Bs that are close to the trail? I was interested in the Katy Bed and Bikefest but would like a private bath.

Debi from Boonville on 10/30/2005 05:52 PM
There is Riverview suites in Boonville. Private suites with washer and dryers, bike rack in the rooms 1 block off the trail. You can actually see the trail from the room and the Missouri River. 660-882-0300.

Has anyone stayed at the 4 doors B&B in Boonville?
Brian from Lees Summit on 10/07/2005 01:50 PM
Curious to hear feedback from anyone who has stayed at the 4 doors B&B in Boonville. Thanks.

Debi from Boonville on 10/30/2005 05:42 PM
It is a new B & B. Clean very nice and located behind Cafe Napolils. It is 2 blocks from the trail and the Missouri River Bridge.

Hermann & Octoberfest
Susan from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma on 08/17/2005 12:27 AM
Any comments regarding camping at the city park in Hermann this October on a Sunday? A group of us are planning to do this. We were recently were told that because of Octoberfest, it will be very noisy, with a lot of drunks, somewhere we'll enjoy being & that riding across the bridge will be very dangerous. Has anyone out there camped here on a Sunday evening in October?

john from kansas city on 08/18/2005 10:14 PM
Octoberfest and Katy Trail bikers do not mix well. The traffic is unmanageable when traveling by bike. The city campground is bare bones and will be filled with drunks and hooligans. The facilities are pretty rustic when not getting much use. I can only imagine what they would be like with hundreds of party goers.

If camping, your best option is at Steamboat Junction in Bluffton. If you want to sample the food and drink at Octoberfest in Hermmann...get a ride from a local and leave the bike at the campgound.

Heather from St Louis on 10/20/2005 11:29 AM
On a Sunday, you'll probably be just fine in the City Park. The Octoberfest partiers are really there on Friday and Saturday nights.

I have also camped at a place just off the trail north of the river; about 5 miles away from Hermann -- much quieter.

RBRLIP from Washington, MO on 10/24/2005 02:21 PM
Hermann is doing its best to control the problem they've had with drunks... It is much better than it once was however to get there on bike from the trail is VERY dangerous!!!! You'll have to cross a busy narrow bridge... There is a shuttle service whose number is (hopefully still there) on the bullitin board at the Mckittrick trail head... Not cheap, but much safer to get across bridge...

By the way,,, next year (spring of 2006) you may be interested in my new company. Check out www.mattnmeiers.com for more information...

Rob Meier, Co-founder Mattnmeier's Recreational Services, LLC

Bentcruiser from Oklahoma on 10/06/2005 07:50 AM
I suspect this town's anticipated greatness is because the author of the KATY book lives here.

They do not allow camping. There is not much to see other than architecture.

Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 10/06/2005 08:38 AM

And I imagine Oklahoma's anticipated greatness is because YOU live there. Not much to see there but red dirt. Roflmao big time!!

You must have rode through with your eyes closed Bent!

T on 10/07/2005 12:58 AM
Hey Okie, if your state is so great then why doesn't Texas fall into the Gulf? Because Oklahoma...

Ben from Imperial, MO on 10/11/2005 08:35 AM
What is the purpose of fighting about whose state is better? We all live in the USA and each state has its good things.

Bentcruiser from Oklahoma on 10/14/2005 03:44 PM
Missouri people:

I am not talking about your state as a whole. I also said nothing about Oklahoma's

"greatness" as someone wrote.

The town was nice with the architecture, there just wasn't much there.

Sorry to step on these obviously tender feelings about Missouri.

bentcruiser from oklahoma on 10/20/2005 09:32 AM
I am feeling pretty bad about what I posted about Rocheport. I feel I need to clarify.

Rocheport and the surrounding area were the most beautiful section of the trail, imho. My

original statement was referring to acitvities and such, not the town or area.

Some poster responded asking what made Oklahoma special. I imagine it would be the

same with Missouri: different parts are nice, others are not.

I like Missouri and particularly the KATY area.

Sorry if it hurt anyone's feelings.

Guest from Missouri on 10/20/2005 09:29 PM
Pronunciation of Rocheport? Ro-sh-port...Ro-k-port...Rock-port?

gc from Columbia, Mo on 10/21/2005 07:22 AM
It's Ro-sh-port

RBRLIP from Washington, MO on 10/24/2005 02:14 PM
Hi Brent,, No offence taken here. My name is Rob Meier, I'm co-founder for Mattnmeier's Recreational Services, LLC. Our new company (beginning Spring 2006) hopes to improve service on the Katy Trail by developing 5-10 properties along its 225 mile length. Each property will have cabins, camping sites, and a variety of other services I'm sure you'll love... Check out our web site at www.mattnmeiers.com for more information.

By the way, I have friends in the Claremore area....

Chowda House & Italian Eatery (St Charles)
Tammy from Currently Saint Charles Missouri on 10/06/2005 01:00 AM
Sadly, the Chowda House closed its doors earlier this summer as one of the first casualties of the stunted tourist industry this year. Record gas prices have been blamed for the failing tourist businesses on Main Street. The Bella Garden Cafe is open and appreciates the support of the Cycling Community, welcoming bikers to the outdoor cafe just off the Katy Trail at 524 S Main across from the former Chowda House site.

Ray (webmaster) on 10/06/2005 02:14 PM
Thanks Tammy. I have removed Chowda House from the website, and added Bella Garden Cafe to the St Charles listings, based on the information in your other note.

Rhona Lococo-- Lococo House Bed &Breakfast from St. Charles on 10/24/2005 12:17 AM
Sad to see yet another business close on Main St.in St. Charles ---- instead of blamimg the gas prices , and the lost of the tourist trade----- why not be more receptive to local business ---- and stay open later than 5:00pm

Katy Bike Rental (Defiance)
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/30/2005 08:45 AM
We stopped in here on Fri. Sept.23. The owner made sure we filled our water bottles before leaving. Doing some upgrades with a deck and new restrooms. If you need something he probably has it, including snacks, drinks, ice cream. Very helpful place and nice to talk with. Can't miss it, a bridge leads right to the back door directly from the trail...Don't pass this one.

Rhona Lococo-- Lococo House Bed &Breakfast from St. Charles on 10/23/2005 11:54 PM
Had guests at our B&B on Saturday the 22nd of October, and they had nothing but good things to say about Katy Bike Rental, the service and attention was great, they were not experienced riders so all the help was appreciated ----- just wanted to pass the info along ----- Rhona Lococo --- Lococo House ll,Bed & Breakfast --- just three blocks from the Katy Trail

Pilot Grove B&B & Flower Shop (formerly JD's) (Pilot Grove)
Rear Admiral from Wisconsin on 10/23/2005 04:19 PM
We enjoyed this B&B very much. Hospitable owner, shelter for the bike, comfortable rooms, clean bathrooms, continental breakfast. We had no trouble booking a room at the last minute.

Peers Store (Peers)
mary hamann from washington on 10/10/2005 07:03 PM
Do you have a vendor in your store that sells home grown pecans? If so are they available? Thanks for your time. Mary. Have a great day!!!

Jane from Peers on 10/10/2005 07:58 PM
No we do not have any home grown pecans sold anywhere Pecans are priceless in this area

Barb from Peers, MO on 10/22/2005 06:17 PM
Yes Peers Store will have a limited supply of pecans available soon.

Bill from Lenexa, KS on 08/25/2005 08:43 AM
Camped at the Randlemann House last Sunday. Found out that we could buy breakfast from them. It was great because there is no food options close.

Dearslayer from Rhineland on 10/20/2005 08:03 PM
It's Rendleman Home and they do serve meals but you need to call ahead so they can prepare.

Have the leaves changed yet?
LaRosty@aol.com from KC on 10/10/2005 07:31 PM
I was wondering what the best time would be to see the leaves in October ...when are they supposed to peak, does anybody know? Linda

Ray (webmaster) on 10/12/2005 06:22 AM
They usually peak around the second to third week of October, but seem to be running a little late this year. This section of the home page has a couple of links that you may find helpful.

Doug from Saint Charles on 10/13/2005 07:40 AM
Oddly enough the leaves are still very green with just a touch of faint color. I guees you could say that we should be enjoying the clors but probally need another blast of colder air and rain to get what we want.

Murf from Jefferson City on 10/17/2005 10:08 PM
Went Sunday between JC and Hartsburg. Leaves starting to change. Next weekend should be great.

Dearslayer from Rhineland on 10/20/2005 07:46 PM
Roght now! Get out there in the morning. This week is the best.

Katfish Katy's Campground
Amanda from Columbia, MO on 10/17/2005 06:21 PM
Hi. I'm a journalism student, and I'm writing a piece about Katfish Katy's Campground in

Huntsdale. I wonder if anyone who has stopped there (for an hour or a week, it doesn't

matter) would share your impressions for my story? It would help if I had some campers,

bicyclists or passers-by to talk to. Please e-mail me at alb4x@yahoo.com. Thanks,


Ann from Wichita, KS on 10/17/2005 09:00 PM
We were at Katfish Katy's this weekend. It was a nice little convenience store and it looked like there was some camping available closer to the river. I thought that there would be catfish, but no food served.

karen from Lenexa,Ks on 10/20/2005 02:05 PM

I was camped there on Oct 18th. I arrived just before sunset, the only other people there were two women on bikes. We had a lovely camping area along the river, nice flat areas for tents, picnic tables, and shade trees for summer.The view of the river was great. The bathrooms were clean, and the showers hot. And the company was good, we exchanged many stories. I learned some new things.

Jug Town Food & Feed (Calhoun)
scott taylor from calhoun, mo on 10/19/2005 12:54 PM
thw whole town is a nice little quite town. Whistle stop has some VERY GOOD food, and we have a brand new gas station: BULLSEYE!!! Come by and see us some time...Theres always nice folks in Calhoun, MO!!!!

Ann from Wichita, KS on 10/17/2005 09:16 PM
Good Thai food between Rocheport and Hartsburg. What fun! Great scenery and friendly people.

Klondike Park (Augusta)
Bentcruiser from Oklahoma on 10/17/2005 09:33 AM
I cannot get over this place. It was sooooo beautiful. It is a former rock quarry. The campsites

were the best. The bathroom facility building had an additional room that was a complete

kitchen that campers could use.

Rangers were extremely nice too.

Peers Store
Bentcruiser from Oklahoma on 10/17/2005 09:29 AM
It doesnt get much better than the Peers store. They were very friendly and oh so

accomodating. Definitely worth the stop.

Touring Cyclist (St Charles)
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:38 AM
The lady in this shop was so nice. She hooked us up with a shuttle to the Kirkwood Amtrak station. Let us hang out in the AC while waiting.

Bentcruiser from Oklahoma on 10/17/2005 09:27 AM
She is extremely nice. Nice shop too.

lodging on the trail
newbe from jeff city on 10/16/2005 10:52 PM
looking for a clothing optional hot tub or swiming pool,bed and breakfast prefered

Steamboat Junction Campground (Bluffton)
Floyd from Quincy, IL on 10/16/2005 02:54 PM
Our Scout Troop was buy there on 10/15/05 the place open and running.

We stayed there on our first trip down on the trail about 5 or 6 years ago and it was nice place.

Floyd from Quincy, IL on 10/16/2005 02:57 PM
Phone number is the right one.

Road Bike
safebouv from Clarksville, TN on 10/15/2005 03:07 PM
I'm leaving for a three day Katy Trail ride the week of October 17, 2005. I've got two bikes. A beater hybrid and a nice road bike. I'd rather take the road bike. Can I make the trip on 25mm tires? Any feedback is appreciated.

Ray (webmaster) on 10/16/2005 06:49 AM

Tire types, road bikes, trailer types
Ray (webmaster) on 10/13/2005 09:53 AM
One very common topic here is what type of tire to use on the trail, and whether road bikes are appropriate. September Brown recently posted some very useful advice on the "phred" mailing list, which I have copied to the BikeKatyTrail website. There's also an explanation of why single-wheeled trailers will work better than 2-wheel trailers: Katy Trail Bike Type, Tire, and Trailer Discussion

MLH from Overland Park KS on 10/15/2005 11:14 PM
Here are some links to tires that work well on the KATY in approximate order of desirable traits, especially tread patterns:









Happy trails!

Never been to katy trail
BigJon from Arnold MO on 10/14/2005 04:56 PM
I am a beginning cyclist and live in Arnold MO and would like to know The closest way to get to Katy Trail from St. Louis. Its a little late in the year dont know if Ill make it till next summer, also im interested in doing maybe a 30 mile ride or a 50 what are the distance markers like. I would appreciate any advice.

Ray (webmaster) on 10/14/2005 09:40 PM
Here's a web page with parking suggestions and how to get to the trail from the St Louis area.

Mile marker signs appear every mile, just like on a highway. Check out this page for mileage between towns - there's also a column that tells you what mile marker each town is located it.

Too late in the year? October is a great time! Temperatures are nice, and the trees are finally starting to turn colors. It's the best time to be out on the trail.

You'll love the Katy Trail - come on out and have some fun.

frank from festus, mo on 10/14/2005 10:47 PM
big jon, me and my wifey ride the trail occasionally. we either go to the historic district of st. charles which is off the fifth st exit of I-70 just across the blanchette bridge and ride west bound from there, or we take high 40 up to highway 94, go south on 94, and go to defiance and ride from there. i personally think it is prettier from defiance west then from st. charles west. these would be the 2 closests i think. this would be a fantastic time of yr to ride. cooler weather, and the colors have to fantastic. happy ridin, frank

Weldon Springs Trailhead
George from OFallon, MO on 10/13/2005 07:33 AM
Thanks go out to MODOT for smoothing out the gravel road from Hwy 94 down to the trailhead. Now cars can go up on the correct side of the road.

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