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The New Area Curse
 -  + My friend and I ride the Katy trail very frequently, and we have noticed that whenever we ride an area of the trail that one of us has never been to before, something mildly inconvenient occurs (loosi...
Discussion started 08/19/2008 06:03 PM by Matt - 13 replies (last reply by Matt at 08/24/2008 08:46 PM)
Matt from St. Charles on 08/19/2008 06:03 PM
My friend and I ride the Katy trail very frequently, and we have noticed that whenever we ride an area of the trail that one of us has never been to before, something mildly inconvenient occurs (loosing keys, loosing cell phone, rain, flat tires). This most recently occurred to me on Monday when I went to check out the short stretch that is now open between Machens and St. Charles. Right as we got to the Machens trail head, my back tire went flat. I hope no one else shares this curse with me, but I am curious to know what everyone thinks.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/19/2008 07:21 PM
Bad JooJoo dude. Get 5 locusts and tape them inside your seatpost tube. and only ride to the east for one month.

 
Trek on 08/20/2008 10:15 AM
I'm not sure about others, but I DO NOT share this curse with you. I had at one time shared it with someone else and strange as it seems the cure was very similar to Dougs. I only used 4 locusts, but think in your case the 5th may be what it takes to snap you out of it.

 
Paulie from Knoxville TN on 08/21/2008 04:55 PM
Everybody knows Cicadas work better than Locust.



Paulie

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/21/2008 05:34 PM
Too late in the season for cicadas. Have to make do with what's available. Of course if you only rode east for a month you could use fresh shrimp in the shell.

 
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts on 08/21/2008 10:42 PM
I tried the locust thing, but hell I lost them too while riding through Weldon Springs, startled by the sound of rapid gunfire, which caused me to drop and run over my cell phone, which caused a massive blow out of my back tire, ending upside down in the ditch.



Definitely should have used Cicadas.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/22/2008 06:03 AM
Proving once again the safety value of the hands free feature. Maybe we could get a law passed.......

 
gc from Columbia, Mo. on 08/22/2008 06:35 AM
How many mosquitos equal five locusts? And if I shoot my cellphone and drop it into "horse waste" while trying to cross the Missouri River on the Katy bridge, will I know what type of bike to use on the trail? ;-)

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/22/2008 06:56 PM
1786. Yes. Everyone else will be quite lost tho.

 
f.c. on 08/22/2008 08:25 PM
does it count that i had the same bad luck when riding the virginia creeper trail last august. 17 miles, pouring down rain, 3 flat tires, and had to walk the final 3 miles due to all tubes ripped and the cell phones didn't work in damascus, va.



by the way, never no problem on the katy, but i always tape at least 10 cicadas to the handle bars.



it's gettin real deep here folks, real quick.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/22/2008 08:43 PM
That's the ticket; preventive maintenance. One reason I ALWAYS have my manure shovel handy when on the Katy............................. Website

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/22/2008 09:34 PM
Thanks to everyone who replied. I'm still laughing.

 
DougK from Troy on 08/24/2008 08:15 PM
There is no curse on the Machens leg, just people that aren't cut out to handle the task (hee hee).

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/24/2008 08:46 PM
I'm pretty sure I can handle a 10 mile stretch of the Katy trail, haha.


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Les Lavandes near Rhineland
 -  + Know it is a bit off the trail...but anyone ever stayed here? We are looking at options for a girls weekend...
Thanks!
Discussion started 08/22/2008 09:27 PM by eme - 0 replies
eme from st. louis on 08/22/2008 09:27 PM
Know it is a bit off the trail...but anyone ever stayed here? We are looking at options for a girls weekend...

Thanks!


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Mississippi Fish Shack (Boonville)
 -  + We heard they were moving to Columbia,but we don't know where or when!
Discussion started 11/19/2007 04:43 PM by cmthornton - 2 replies (last reply by Doug at 08/22/2008 07:00 PM)
cmthornton from Huntsville on 11/19/2007 04:43 PM
We heard they were moving to Columbia,but we don't know where or when!

 
cmthornton from Huntsville on 11/19/2007 04:43 PM
We heard they were moving to Columbia,but we don't know where or when!

 
ebankslaw from Jackson, MS on 08/21/2008 03:32 PM
They have moved to Columbia, MO, they are open and the food is great! Have your appetite ready when you go!

 
ebankslaw from Jackson, MS on 08/21/2008 03:32 PM
They have moved to Columbia, MO, they are open and the food is great! Have your appetite ready when you go!

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/22/2008 07:00 PM
They are on Broadway in downtown Columbia. Not far from the Katy spur and easy if driving. I'm not sure of address but closer to the east end of the downtown area.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/22/2008 07:00 PM
They are on Broadway in downtown Columbia. Not far from the Katy spur and easy if driving. I'm not sure of address but closer to the east end of the downtown area.


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Page Ave / 364 Bridge parking lot (St Charles)
 -  + Does anyone know whether you can park over night at this parking area?
I can't believe someone would be upset about this!!! I am from St. Louis and found out about
the trail by accident. My...
Discussion started 06/23/2008 06:08 PM by Georgia Shelden - 2 replies (last reply by Dale at 08/22/2008 02:21 AM)
Georgia Shelden from Cincinnati, OH on 06/23/2008 06:08 PM
Does anyone know whether you can park over night at this parking area?

I can't believe someone would be upset about this!!! I am from St. Louis and found out about

the trail by accident. My husband and I are going to do an overnight and looking forward to a

great trip.

 
Georgia Shelden from Cincinnati, OH on 06/23/2008 06:08 PM
Does anyone know whether you can park over night at this parking area?

I can't believe someone would be upset about this!!! I am from St. Louis and found out about

the trail by accident. My husband and I are going to do an overnight and looking forward to a

great trip.

 
Robert from columbia on 06/23/2008 06:12 PM
why not just park here?



http://www.bikekatytrail.com/site.aspx?sid=1

 
Robert from columbia on 06/23/2008 06:12 PM
why not just park here?



http://www.bikekatytrail.com/site.aspx?sid=1

 
Dale from oFallon, MO on 08/22/2008 02:21 AM
I beleive you are talking about the park and ride lot there. Scout troops meet at those and leave vehicles there for the weekend as well as for the entire week of summer camp. I've seen dozens of cars left at the ones on hwy 70 for days sometimes weeks on end without appearing to move, as long as the plates are current and the tires full of air. St Charles Yellow Cab picks people up at those and takes them to the airport, then returns them to there cars as much as a week later, and I've never seen a ticket on them, nor has the car been missing.

 
Dale from oFallon, MO on 08/22/2008 02:21 AM
I beleive you are talking about the park and ride lot there. Scout troops meet at those and leave vehicles there for the weekend as well as for the entire week of summer camp. I've seen dozens of cars left at the ones on hwy 70 for days sometimes weeks on end without appearing to move, as long as the plates are current and the tires full of air. St Charles Yellow Cab picks people up at those and takes them to the airport, then returns them to there cars as much as a week later, and I've never seen a ticket on them, nor has the car been missing.


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Mother-in-Law House (St Charles)
 -  + BOO!
Discussion started 08/04/2008 04:39 PM by Justin Lightfoot - 3 replies (last reply by Dale at 08/22/2008 02:16 AM)
Justin Lightfoot from Saint Louis on 08/04/2008 04:39 PM
BOO!

 
Justin Lightfoot from Saint Louis on 08/04/2008 04:39 PM
BOO!

 
Ken from St. Charles on 08/04/2008 08:59 PM
That's what my wife said to the cockroach she saw crawling across the salad bar a few years ago. We haven't been back since.

 
Ken from St. Charles on 08/04/2008 08:59 PM
That's what my wife said to the cockroach she saw crawling across the salad bar a few years ago. We haven't been back since.

 
Les from Lawrence on 08/08/2008 05:45 PM
A FEW YEARS AGO!? C'mon, post a timely comment for cryin' out loud.

 
Les from Lawrence on 08/08/2008 05:45 PM
A FEW YEARS AGO!? C'mon, post a timely comment for cryin' out loud.

 
Dale from oFallon, MO on 08/22/2008 02:16 AM
My mother has gone as a special dinner at least twice a year for the last 8 years. She loves it. I've gone wiht her 3 times now and always had a very enjoyable experience. The place is quaint, obvioulsy it is a barely remodeled house. The salad bar is fairly small but has an eclictic variety of things I do not normally find at the buffet bars. The owner has come to our table to say hi each evening and always brought some sort of food or dessert nibble family style to be scoop out of a large serving dish. Moms brought at least a dozen various friends there now and all have seemed to enjoy themselves. Be sure to make reservations ahead of time for any special days.

 
Dale from oFallon, MO on 08/22/2008 02:16 AM
My mother has gone as a special dinner at least twice a year for the last 8 years. She loves it. I've gone wiht her 3 times now and always had a very enjoyable experience. The place is quaint, obvioulsy it is a barely remodeled house. The salad bar is fairly small but has an eclictic variety of things I do not normally find at the buffet bars. The owner has come to our table to say hi each evening and always brought some sort of food or dessert nibble family style to be scoop out of a large serving dish. Moms brought at least a dozen various friends there now and all have seemed to enjoy themselves. Be sure to make reservations ahead of time for any special days.


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Globe Hotel (Hartsburg)
 -  + Have stayed several times over the years. Always clean, friendly, especially the cats, owner constantly working on renovations / restorations. A place and a town to relax in - except during the Pump...
Discussion started 08/21/2008 09:29 PM by carol - 0 replies
carol from Toronto, Canada on 08/21/2008 09:29 PM
Have stayed several times over the years. Always clean, friendly, especially the cats, owner constantly working on renovations / restorations. A place and a town to relax in - except during the Pumpkin Festival -

 
carol from Toronto, Canada on 08/21/2008 09:29 PM
Have stayed several times over the years. Always clean, friendly, especially the cats, owner constantly working on renovations / restorations. A place and a town to relax in - except during the Pumpkin Festival -


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trail around St. Chalres Family Arena
 -  + I ran from the Page Bridge to the 39 mile marker on Sat., I was wondering...do the official mile markers map out/measure the trail as it winds behind the arena and quarry, or in front of the arena? T...
Discussion started 08/20/2008 04:49 PM by Becky - 4 replies (last reply by gc at 08/21/2008 07:51 AM)
Becky from St. Charles on 08/20/2008 04:49 PM
I ran from the Page Bridge to the 39 mile marker on Sat., I was wondering...do the official mile markers map out/measure the trail as it winds behind the arena and quarry, or in front of the arena? Thanks!

 
cunninghamair from O''Fallon, MO on 08/20/2008 05:43 PM
The Katy is the gravel trail that wraps behind the Arena and through the quarry.

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/20/2008 09:07 PM
I am not completely sure, but I have always assumed the mile markers on the Katy are trail miles and not linear miles. My odometer backs up this assumption.

 
TeMiSi from Festus on 08/20/2008 09:36 PM
It is my understanding that the milage markers are in the original rail line placement. There are a couple of places along the trail where there is a slight variance due to the trail being moved off the original line.

 
gc from Columbia, Mo. on 08/21/2008 07:51 AM
Yes, that is my understanding, too. The mile markers reflect the railroad mileage.

The St. Chuck arena, the little jag in Rhineland, the diversion off the old roadbed to bypass the Katy Railroad Bridge in Boonville and the route through downtown Sedalia are the four areas where I would guess the actual mileage and the signposts don't synch.


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Pilot Grove B&B & Flower Shop (Pilot Grove)
 -  + This is a very lovely home. Very historical. They are great hosts and your stay will be remembered. I know alot of people return year after year to stay here along their travels.
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scott from pilot grove on 08/19/2008 08:45 PM
This is a very lovely home. Very historical. They are great hosts and your stay will be remembered. I know alot of people return year after year to stay here along their travels.

 
scott from pilot grove on 08/19/2008 08:45 PM
This is a very lovely home. Very historical. They are great hosts and your stay will be remembered. I know alot of people return year after year to stay here along their travels.


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Sedalia to Saint Charles
 -  + My wife and were planning a two day trip from Sedalia to St. Charles. How difficult is the terrain? I imagine it's mostly flat with some modest inclines, but wanted to see if anyone would comment.Discussion started 08/14/2008 03:28 PM - 3 replies (last reply by Doug at 08/19/2008 05:41 PM)
Anonymous from Olathe on 08/14/2008 03:28 PM
My wife and were planning a two day trip from Sedalia to St. Charles. How difficult is the terrain? I imagine it's mostly flat with some modest inclines, but wanted to see if anyone would comment.

We are new to biking and won't do this until we have trained.

 
matt headley from wichita on 08/14/2008 08:47 PM
go the other way...... we did this trip it took us 5 days but we did it pretty mellow.... though

if you go the other way its alot more down hill.... they say its only a 5% grade here and there

but the first day we rode to boonville it was up hill 30 miles.... no joke

 
Trek on 08/14/2008 09:15 PM
I'd check the elevation chart and the prevailing wind direction. Although there is a modest incline between Clifton City and Pilot Grove, the trail is mostly downhill going west to east. The elevation at Sedalia is 905 feet and is 452 at St. Chuck. West to east allows for some good coasting down Lard Hill in Boonville too. The prevailing wind direction is west-northwest to east-southeast. I much prefer opting for the chance of the wind at my back with a downward slope in front of me.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/19/2008 05:41 PM
Trek is right, but you notice he included the word "chance". Seems like every time I ride into St.Charle the wind is out of the east for 5 hours. Either way,ride a little slower into the wind or a little faster with it. Still a great day. Just allow enough time per day to be sidetracked and it won't matter. If you talk to enough people during the ride you won't notice the difference anyway.


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Getting to Hermann from McKittrick
 -  + I have read about the new bike lane across the Hermann bridge to help you get across, but what about the rest of the journey? Is there a good trail to get you to the bridge or do you have to ride on t...
Discussion started 08/18/2008 09:35 PM by Randy - 2 replies (last reply by Doug at 08/19/2008 05:03 PM)
Randy from Missouri on 08/18/2008 09:35 PM
I have read about the new bike lane across the Hermann bridge to help you get across, but what about the rest of the journey? Is there a good trail to get you to the bridge or do you have to ride on the shoulder of the highway? Is if flat or hilly? Just wondering what we may be in for if we take that journey.

 
gc from Columbia, Mo. on 08/19/2008 06:59 AM
You have to go on the shoulder of the highway. However, it is a pretty wide shoulder and the traffic usually isn't too outrageous. There is a foot path worn into the embankment from the trail up to the road.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/19/2008 05:03 PM
And DNR is currently grading and preparing the new bike path from the Katy to the south bound shoulder of 94 that will take you right in to Hermann. It will be less than 100 yards of a mild grade up to the shoulder. Extremely easy. Then you ride right into town. Well, you are supposed to do a kind of loop drop to the bike lane over the bridge and that is not a problem. You can also just ride the shoulder over the bridge into Hermann. The only problem with that is the debris on the shoulder. Either way is not a biggie.


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Katy Trail
 -  + I'm planning a fall trip to the trail and wondered if there was any damage from the earlier floods?
Discussion started 08/19/2008 04:23 PM by Joyce - 1 reply (last reply by Doug at 08/19/2008 04:51 PM)
Joyce from Midland on 08/19/2008 04:23 PM
I'm planning a fall trip to the trail and wondered if there was any damage from the earlier floods?

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/19/2008 04:51 PM
In a word, No.

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