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Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
 -  + A pleasant stop on our first Katy Trail trip (22 miles). My wife and I shared a foot long deli sandwich. It was either very good or I was very hungry!
Discussion started 07/30/2008 08:56 PM by MH - 6 replies (last reply by KroolDeath at 08/17/2008 06:07 PM)
MH from Foley MO on 07/30/2008 08:56 PM
A pleasant stop on our first Katy Trail trip (22 miles). My wife and I shared a foot long deli sandwich. It was either very good or I was very hungry!

 
MH from Foley MO on 07/30/2008 08:56 PM
A pleasant stop on our first Katy Trail trip (22 miles). My wife and I shared a foot long deli sandwich. It was either very good or I was very hungry!

 
Anonymous on 08/02/2008 07:32 PM
IF you like your food sauteed in nicotine!!! We stopped there on July 7, opened the front door and immediately left. We prefer to patronize businesses on the Trail but not at the expense of our health!

 
Anonymous on 08/02/2008 07:32 PM
IF you like your food sauteed in nicotine!!! We stopped there on July 7, opened the front door and immediately left. We prefer to patronize businesses on the Trail but not at the expense of our health!

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/09/2008 07:58 PM
Was just there. Had a good beer and sat out talking to other riders. I couldn't smell tobacco and asked several other people during the day if they had; to a man the answer was "HUH? what smell?"

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/09/2008 07:58 PM
Was just there. Had a good beer and sat out talking to other riders. I couldn't smell tobacco and asked several other people during the day if they had; to a man the answer was "HUH? what smell?"

 
Anonymous on 08/11/2008 02:17 PM
Cigarette smoke on the porch, ashtrays on the tables. Maybe your sense of smell is so dulled you can't smell it. If someone smokes, the odor is THERE.

 
Anonymous on 08/11/2008 02:17 PM
Cigarette smoke on the porch, ashtrays on the tables. Maybe your sense of smell is so dulled you can't smell it. If someone smokes, the odor is THERE.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/12/2008 09:17 PM
I guess so. All the rest of the people have no sense of smell and don't have enough sense to sit outside if it did bother them. Only a finely tuned nose like yours can discern all the subtle offenses of the day.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/12/2008 09:17 PM
I guess so. All the rest of the people have no sense of smell and don't have enough sense to sit outside if it did bother them. Only a finely tuned nose like yours can discern all the subtle offenses of the day.

 
GB from O''Fallon on 08/13/2008 08:04 PM
My wife and I have eaten at the Dutzow Deli many times over the past several years and realy enjoy the food. My wife has asthma and is very sensitive to cigarette smoke. We've never had a problem here and will continue to frequent the deli.

 
GB from O''Fallon on 08/13/2008 08:04 PM
My wife and I have eaten at the Dutzow Deli many times over the past several years and realy enjoy the food. My wife has asthma and is very sensitive to cigarette smoke. We've never had a problem here and will continue to frequent the deli.

 
KroolDeath from O'Fallon on 08/17/2008 06:07 PM
I think anonymous had their nose stuck so far up in the air they smelled something the rest of us have not!

 
KroolDeath from O'Fallon on 08/17/2008 06:07 PM
I think anonymous had their nose stuck so far up in the air they smelled something the rest of us have not!


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Weldon Springs Connection
 -  + All Summer I noticed a new trail being built that connects to the Katy trail in Weldon Springs,
near the conservation area. Today I started to ride on it and noticed fresh sod and creeks.
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Discussion started 08/16/2008 07:47 PM by waddup - 1 reply (last reply by ps at 08/17/2008 12:45 PM)
waddup from St. Charles on 08/16/2008 07:47 PM
All Summer I noticed a new trail being built that connects to the Katy trail in Weldon Springs,

near the conservation area. Today I started to ride on it and noticed fresh sod and creeks.

What is the name of this trail and what does it connect to?

 
ps from St. Charles on 08/17/2008 12:45 PM
It connects to the Research Park in Weldon Spring.


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New Trail?
 -  + I passed some construction around mm52 the other day. There's a nice path off the trail leading to a long brown bridge. Does anyone know if this is a new section?
Discussion started 08/15/2008 11:49 PM by DougK - 2 replies (last reply by ps at 08/17/2008 12:43 PM)
DougK from Troy on 08/15/2008 11:49 PM
I passed some construction around mm52 the other day. There's a nice path off the trail leading to a long brown bridge. Does anyone know if this is a new section?

 
Ken from St. Charles on 08/16/2008 04:24 PM
I think you're asking about the trail addressed in this thread.



http://www.bikekatytrail.com/talk.aspx?thid=2308¬efmt=1&sortby=0&pg=2

 
ps from St. Charles on 08/17/2008 12:43 PM
My son and I rode this today. It goes to the Research Park in Weldon

Springs. It was a mile or two. I am trying to figure out where it will go from there.


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High Street Victorian
 -  + The Columbia Trib has a great article about this new Bed & Breakfast.
Find it at;
http://columbiatribune.com/2008/Aug/20080816Busi010.asp


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Anonymous from columbia on 08/16/2008 01:23 PM
The Columbia Trib has a great article about this new Bed & Breakfast.

Find it at;

http://columbiatribune.com/2008/Aug/20080816Busi010.asp





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How bad are the mosquitoes while biking the Katy Trail?
 -  + For our family vacation, we are thinking of biking the entire Katy Trail. How bad are the mosquitoes along the way? Just worried about the bugs ruining the ride especially with such a wet spring/summe...
Discussion started 07/27/2008 01:33 PM by Ben - 5 replies (last reply by Matt at 08/16/2008 12:13 AM)
Ben from Neosho on 07/27/2008 01:33 PM
For our family vacation, we are thinking of biking the entire Katy Trail. How bad are the mosquitoes along the way? Just worried about the bugs ruining the ride especially with such a wet spring/summer season this year. We have never ridden the trail, so wondering if someone who has can tell us.

 
cunninghamair from O''Fallon, MO on 07/27/2008 02:25 PM
Not bad while you are moving. We don't usually wear bug spray. However, we picked the

wrong spot to stop on the side of the trail the other morning and got attacked. We rode

onto the next trailhead and had no problem when we stopped there. My husband's guess is

they spray at the trailheads. It doesn't hurt to carry spray in case you need it--I will from

now on!

 
Anonymous on 07/27/2008 09:43 PM
It sounds strange but original Listerine works great. I use the store brand on my grandchild, no bites:-) I put it in a spray bottle. It doesn't leave your skin sticky like regular spray....

 
Marvin Winston from Maumelle on 07/28/2008 12:36 PM
Ben,



I did the entire trail last week with my 3 small boys and there was no problem unless you stop in certain areas (shade). We had a flat and as soon as we stopped we were attacked. Luckly we had some deep woods off and they were gone soon. I hate those pesky critters but don't let them keep you from going.

 
Biker from Farmington, MO on 07/29/2008 11:50 AM
I'd get a combination sunscreen/insect repellent in lotion form. Helps control coverage. Before Coppertone discontinued it, my husband and I swore by it. We're trying the spray Bullfrog Mosquito Coast now, but it's not as good. With spray, it's a big difficult not to inhale or ingest it, and it doesn't provide a good sense of complete coverage. That, and I feel like I'm sweating it off.

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/16/2008 12:13 AM
I've never had problems with mosquitoes on the Katy. I'm sure there are a lot at night, but the trail is not open at night so I don't have to worry about that. I couple of my friends told me about riding through short sections with locusts flying every where, but I've never experienced it.


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Peers store is a great stop
 -  + We only bought water and gatorade, but they were open at 9 on a Wed when we needed it.
They have everything including breakfast, lunch and ice cream! We'll be back. Thank you.
Discussion started 08/09/2008 01:41 PM by cunninghamair - 2 replies (last reply by Matt at 08/15/2008 11:45 PM)
cunninghamair from O''Fallon, MO on 08/09/2008 01:41 PM
We only bought water and gatorade, but they were open at 9 on a Wed when we needed it.

They have everything including breakfast, lunch and ice cream! We'll be back. Thank you.

 
Anonymous from Norwalk, IA on 08/12/2008 12:31 PM
I totally agree! We stayed overnight in one of the bedrooms above the store and it was very adequate and economical if you're just looking for a place to crash after a day on the trail. The owner is awesome and very accomodating.

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/15/2008 11:45 PM
I have stopped at the store in Peers once. If you need food or drink and you are between Matson and Treloar, I would recommend this place because the shopkeeper was very friendly. It seemed like five dollars went along way. They also refilled our water bottles.


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crossing the Missouri river along side page
 -  + This is my favorite part of the trail. It is paved and parallels hwy 364 for about 2 miles then
circles around Creeve Core Lake. There is always sail boats and people playing on the
beach. It'...
Discussion started 08/10/2008 12:52 AM by Blake - 5 replies (last reply by Matt at 08/15/2008 11:33 PM)
Blake from St. Peters on 08/10/2008 12:52 AM
This is my favorite part of the trail. It is paved and parallels hwy 364 for about 2 miles then

circles around Creeve Core Lake. There is always sail boats and people playing on the

beach. It's beautiful. It totals about 7 miles. small amount of construction detouring the

trail but i always like a good detour.

PS a funny thing happened on that trail to me. I was riding along minding my own business when a bird swooped down and grabbed at my head. now i dont wear a helmet

but after that occurrence i started considering it. The bird was like many others seen

around this trail. It was all black with a small amount of red/ orange coloration close to

the head. anyway dont let that discourage you from enjoying this beautiful trail, because

like i said it's my favorite.

 
Anonymous on 08/11/2008 02:15 PM
Ah, the infamous Red Wing Blackbird. There are very territorial and well known for buzzing riders. Got me several times last year.



Get a helmet, no reason to be a premature organ donor.

 
Anonymous on 08/11/2008 02:34 PM
This is very common this time of the year when birds are raising young.

 
cunninghamair from O'Fallon, MO on 08/11/2008 04:54 PM
Yep, saw one swoop down from it's nest and take a shot at my husband riding in front of

me!

 
GB from O''''Fallon on 08/13/2008 08:08 PM
If you're lucky you may even spot some of the deer that live in the park. I was riding in the park last year and was a bit startled by a pair of deer a few feet off of the trail.

 
Matt from St. Charles on 08/15/2008 11:33 PM
I enjoy riding the page extension bike trail to the lake. Sometimes when you pass through the tunnel between the bridge and the lake, the birds will fly through there with you. I am not sure if the birds are in control of their flight enough to avoid me or if I have been lucky, but I have yet to be hit. Usually, when I ride this trail, I park at the trail head on Greens Bottom road so I can ride a little bit of the Katy Trail also. The Lake House has great fruit smoothies if you have time for a break.


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High Street Victorian
 -  + Very Nice! Wonderful Stay (23rd -24th)and great food!
Discussion started 08/15/2008 05:44 PM by John & Alleene D. - 0 replies
John & Alleene D. from Drexel on 08/15/2008 05:44 PM
Very Nice! Wonderful Stay (23rd -24th)and great food!


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Steven Lee Wright's photos
 -  + I came across your superb sunrise/set photos on this site today and wonder if you have any on disc (pref jpeg) which you sell.
I'm an ordinary joe soap public and would want them for my own persona...
Discussion started 12/23/2005 10:22 AM by Richard McKay - 2 replies (last reply by Steven Lee Wright at 08/15/2008 12:40 AM)
Richard McKay from Birmingham, England on 12/23/2005 10:22 AM
I came across your superb sunrise/set photos on this site today and wonder if you have any on disc (pref jpeg) which you sell.

I'm an ordinary joe soap public and would want them for my own personal pleasure only.

Thanks,

Richard

 
Ray (webmaster) on 12/24/2005 08:03 AM
I agree, Steve has taken some amazing photos. You can visit his website at http://www.naturephotographics.com - there you will find many other photos, as well as instructions on how to order prints. I do not know whether he sells images on disc, but his website has contact information where you can get in touch with him for more details.

 
Steven Lee Wright from Columbia, MO on 08/15/2008 12:40 AM
If you liked these photos, see the full updated collection at www.naturephotographics.com - over 170 Missouri photos, many in the river valley as well as some "secret" places you may never see except in these photos. Most of this is 4x5 work made on a 50 year old camera with both vintage and modern lenses. The panoramics are made by stitching hi-res scans of 4x5 originals together, so they will print up to 8 feet wide. Check out the Eagle Bluffs lookout on the trail between McBaine and Coopers landing. It is worth the climb. I have a nightime photo trip planned there, but I am waiting for the perfect storm.


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Hartsburg Pumpkin Festival
 -  + when is the Hartsburg Pumpkin Festival for the year 2008
Discussion started 08/14/2008 03:05 PM by Ronald Dudenhoeffer - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 08/14/2008 06:42 PM)
Ronald Dudenhoeffer from Jefferson City, MO. on 08/14/2008 03:05 PM
when is the Hartsburg Pumpkin Festival for the year 2008

 
Ronald Dudenhoeffer from Jefferson City, MO. on 08/14/2008 03:05 PM
when is the Hartsburg Pumpkin Festival for the year 2008

 
Anonymous on 08/14/2008 06:42 PM
October 11 and 12. They even have a website:



http://www.hartsburgpumpkinfest.com



If you are at work or have your speakers on, be ready for country music to blast on your computer when you visit that site.

 
Anonymous on 08/14/2008 06:42 PM
October 11 and 12. They even have a website:



http://www.hartsburgpumpkinfest.com



If you are at work or have your speakers on, be ready for country music to blast on your computer when you visit that site.


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Share a shuttle
 -  + Shuttles are a popular way to get from one point on the trail to another, or even beyond the trail. You can cover twice the amount of trail if you don’t have to turn around at your halfway point to r...
Discussion started 08/13/2008 01:46 PM by Ray (webmaster) - 4 replies (last reply by Gary near Tebbetts at 08/13/2008 09:54 PM)
Ray (webmaster) on 08/13/2008 01:46 PM
Shuttles are a popular way to get from one point on the trail to another, or even beyond the trail. You can cover twice the amount of trail if you don’t have to turn around at your halfway point to return on your bike.



Most shuttles charge by the trip, rather than by the number of riders – so a shuttle trip for one rider might cost the same amount as for four riders. This provides an opportunity to save some money – and make new friends – by sharing a shuttle ride with someone.



To make it easier for riders to share a shuttle, one of the shuttle operators suggested that I create a feature where people who need a shuttle can get together, to share a shuttle with someone else.



So, if you think you might be "shuttling" any time this season, take a look at the Katy Trail Share a Shuttle web page. Add your information to the list, or reply to anyone else whose shuttle needs are similar to yours. I’ve started off with a couple of sample entries to help give you an idea of how it would work.



Your feedback is welcome!


 
Trek on 08/13/2008 03:01 PM
That's a great idea Ray.....another way this site is way ahead of the game as a resource while planning a trip. We just got back from riding the Great River Trail/Elroy-Sparta/Omaha and certainly wish we had a bikeelroy.com type site to help us plan.

 
Carl Awsumb from Memphis, TN on 08/13/2008 03:35 PM
I am trying to figure out that if we (4 of us) start in Booneville and finish in St. Charles what possible ways can we get back to our car in Booneville. AMTRAC OR BUS OR WHAT? Thanks. Carl Awsumb

 
Trek on 08/13/2008 03:53 PM
Carl....the Amtrak doesnt stop in Boonville. Perhaps this shuttle share idea.

 
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts on 08/13/2008 09:54 PM
Great idea Ray, I think it would be helpful to add the shuttle operators’ information to the web page so those that needed to use a shuttle service would have all the information they would need in one spot. I think the shuttle operators should at a minimum provide their hours and season of operations, location(s), phone, fax, email address, numbers and types of shuttles available, shuttle capacities, their rates, and if the rates are per person or per shuttle.


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break in
 -  + Be aware that are repeated car break ins at the north River view trail e city is not doing anything about it. We (and a couple visiting from Italy) had credit cards stolen from our car while on a ride...
Discussion started 08/13/2008 04:19 PM by rideallover - 3 replies (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 08/13/2008 04:39 PM)
rideallover from Cedar Rapids IA on 08/13/2008 04:19 PM
Be aware that are repeated car break ins at the north River view trail e city is not doing anything about it. We (and a couple visiting from Italy) had credit cards stolen from our car while on a ride at the Rte 66 parking lot near the Chain of Rocks bridge. The officers said they have asked to do a sting but were turned down by the city. It has been going on for months! The criminals had made charges on our card within 1 hour, so they had it down. They had even closed a parking lot due to so many break ins, but had no signs warning people. STAY AWAY from this part of St. Louis.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 08/13/2008 04:29 PM
Just to avoid any confusion - this is not on or near the Katy Trail - the Riverfront Trail runs along the Mississippi River from just a bit north of the Gateway Arch, up to the Chain of Rocks Bridge (a very cool and very long pedestrian/bike-only bridge). This has been a well-known problem for months, and it's quite disappointing that the city of St Louis doesn't seem to care.



While we're on the topic, here's a page I put together that discusses how to get from the Katy Trail to downtown St Louis and the Riverfront Trail.

 
Anonymous on 08/13/2008 04:36 PM
Just the boys from Deon's having a little fun.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 08/13/2008 04:39 PM
Dang, they''ve got a long drive. :-)


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Augusta Brewing Co. (Augusta)
 -  + I have to agree with a few of the others, not worth the stop. We stayed in Augusta overnight and was told to try this place for good food and beer. We went down late afternoon and they were out of eve...
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Jim from Washington Court House on 06/23/2008 09:32 PM
I have to agree with a few of the others, not worth the stop. We stayed in Augusta overnight and was told to try this place for good food and beer. We went down late afternoon and they were out of everything except about two things. Apparently ordering food for the resteraunt wasn't high on the list. Beer was average at best. Service was terrible. Only 6 customers in the whole place and still couldn't hardly get a beer. I know that we won't be back there. If you are looking for a meal go a few more blocks up the hill to Cafe Bella!

 
Dave from Augusta on 07/01/2008 11:42 AM
I would have to disagree with the review of the Augusta Brewing Co. I live in Augusta and ride the trail often. The Brewery has the best food in town and if you like "Crafted beer" this is the place to go. As for the service depending on the time of day it can be slow, during peak hours it is better.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 08/09/2008 08:23 PM
Just went there. Partly to see if comments were accurate. I walked up to the bar, was greeted in turn, received my beer and went to a table to wait for my sandwich(a delicious smoked brisket that was all meat). I had only begun my first beer when the food arrived. Now it is August and I had just ridden thirty miles so that first beer didn't last long. There must have been 40 other customers there so not like I was the only one they had to take care of. As to the glass of stout that I had. I had more.

 
Paul Corley from Chesterfield, MO on 08/13/2008 03:56 PM
the Augusta Brewery is a great destination for craft brews and food also! I have been there several times in the last few years and have had a very fun time on a consistent basis! The beer is always fresh and tasty and always a large selection. The owner has another restaurant/ brewery in Soulard is very experienced... The view is very nice overlooking the valley and fields below!

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