Horseback riding
-  + I understand that horses are allowed on the Clinton to Sedalia portion of the trial. Are there any overnight accomodations along that part of the trail that accomodates riders with horses? Lodging, r...
Discussion started 09/11/2007 10:28 PM by LGL - 4 replies (last reply by Mark at 10/23/2007 01:09 PM)LGL from Ozark, Mo. on 09/11/2007 10:28 PM
I understand that horses are allowed on the Clinton to Sedalia portion of the trial. Are there any overnight accomodations along that part of the trail that accomodates riders with horses? Lodging, restaurants, etc.
Anonymous on 09/12/2007 08:03 PM
NO...
maxine from Sedalia, Mo on 09/29/2007 10:52 AM
I rent room's in my home, we live on the east side of Sedalia. The equestrian trail stops at the State Fair grounds, we are 2 miles past that. We can provide transportation for you and you horse to our home. We have barn and pasture land. Check out Maxine's rooms for rent. Fischers stable connects to the trail if you would rather stay on that end of town. They boards horses.
Ray (webmaster) on 10/01/2007 10:35 PM
Cruce's Cabooses has a horse corral, and you get to spend the night in a real train car. They're listed on the Calhoun page.
Mark from Sedalia on 10/23/2007 01:09 PM
The Sedalia House Bed and Breakfast is a country B&B that offers overnight horse boarding. Please visit our website listed under Towns & Services, Sedalia.
Tell us why you rode the trail
-  + Trail Riders,
We would love to hear from you regarding why you ride the trail - or if you took your first ride recently, why you chose to do so. We would be very grateful if you would take a m...
Discussion started 10/22/2007 04:00 PM by Lorah Steiner - 1 reply (last reply by El Toro at 10/23/2007 01:07 AM)Lorah Steiner from Columbia, MO on 10/22/2007 04:00 PM
Trail Riders,
We would love to hear from you regarding why you ride the trail - or if you took your first ride recently, why you chose to do so. We would be very grateful if you would take a moment to fill a survey. Just copy and paste the link below into your browser. Thank you very much for your assistance!
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=qL9YrsoJ7Vh6eTB1JbGR9Q_3d_3d
El Toro on 10/23/2007 01:07 AM
Are you just curious? With an agency? Doing a master's thesis?
Camping in Booneville
-  + Are there any other camping options besides the Bobber in Boonvile?
Discussion started 10/19/2007 03:27 PM by Diz - 2 replies (last reply by Carl Myers at 10/22/2007 07:16 PM)Diz from Springfield, IL on 10/19/2007 03:27 PM
Are there any other camping options besides the Bobber in Boonvile?
DougK from Troy on 10/20/2007 04:45 PM
Cross the Boonville Bridge and follow the trail to mm 188 and the Katy Roundhouse campground. You won't regret camping here. It has showers and is overall a nice, clean, friendly place to lay your head.
Carl Myers from Mexico, MO on 10/22/2007 07:16 PM
Yes the Katy Roundhouse is a very good choice, as it is right on the trail.It is at New Franklin. There is also a new campground behind McDonals on Int 70. Me and my 12 year old grandson rode the entire trail with state of MO organized ride in 2002. If you would like to look at some photos of Katy Trail ride: http://community.webshots.com/user/carlmyers
Biking From St. Charles to Clinton... questions
-  + I plan on biking from St. Charles to Clinton over 5 days. Here's my questions:
1)Where can I leave my car for 5-6 days in St. Charles?
2)How do I get back from Clinton to St. Charles? (witho...
Discussion started 10/15/2007 11:51 AM by Corey Pressler - 5 replies (last reply by Carl Myers at 10/22/2007 06:25 PM)Corey Pressler on 10/15/2007 11:51 AM
I plan on biking from St. Charles to Clinton over 5 days. Here's my questions:
1)Where can I leave my car for 5-6 days in St. Charles?
2)How do I get back from Clinton to St. Charles? (without biking)
Thanks!
rhona lococo from St. Charles on 10/15/2007 09:36 PM
call ----636-946-0619 ---- Lococo House ll ----- you can leave your car in our parking lot ---- and we can shuttle you back from Clinton ---- I will give you all the details
Paulie from Knoxville on 10/16/2007 08:59 AM
Park at the St. Charles trailhead, if city traffic doesnt bother you, ride your bike to Kirkwood and catch the $33 w/bike AMTRAK to Sedalia.(I'd leave out the Clinton to Sedalia unless you really want to ride the entire route.)Stay at motels and B & B's on your ride back to St. Charles. Plan for the unexpected(like flat tires, lack of water, rain, things closed on Mondays, ect.) Most of all, HAVE FUN !
Paulie
Ray (webmaster) on 10/16/2007 02:11 PM
Anonymous on 10/21/2007 11:30 PM
Be sure when you book your Amtrak return you do it for you and your bike. Especially on a weekend. I learned the hard way. "we have your reservation, but none for your bike,sorry we have seats but no space for your bike".
Carl Myers from Mexico, MO on 10/22/2007 06:25 PM
The Katy Trail is a Mo state park, and in the month of June they sponsor a ride that goes all the way. They haul your luggage and furnish you with some meal. They haul your bike back to where you started and bus the riders back. They take about 300 riders. I think they start at St. Charles, then the next year they start at Clinton. I did it with my 12 year old grandson about 6 years ago. It is a lot of fun. Check out some of my photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/carlmyers
Gloves and warmup pants
-  + Did anyone lose a pair of gloves and warmup-pants between Rhineland and Herman last Saturday? I have them if you did.
Discussion started 10/22/2007 03:07 PM by Jim - 0 repliesJim from St. Thomas on 10/22/2007 03:07 PM
Did anyone lose a pair of gloves and warmup-pants between Rhineland and Herman last Saturday? I have them if you did.
Pilot Grove Harvest Festival
-  + We both want to thank all the members of the Harvest Committee for all their hard work in planning the festival. We felt honored to be able to take part in the King and Queen Event.
Discussion started 10/21/2007 04:01 PM by Homer and Lillian Twenter - 0 repliesHomer and Lillian Twenter from Pilot Grove on 10/21/2007 04:01 PM
We both want to thank all the members of the Harvest Committee for all their hard work in planning the festival. We felt honored to be able to take part in the King and Queen Event.
Homer and Lillian Twenter from Pilot Grove on 10/21/2007 04:01 PM
We both want to thank all the members of the Harvest Committee for all their hard work in planning the festival. We felt honored to be able to take part in the King and Queen Event.
machens
-  + is the trail to machens open yet? if not, does anyone know when it will open? is there any food/water there. thanks.
Discussion started 09/17/2007 02:27 PM by brad - 4 replies (last reply by Nails at 10/21/2007 09:09 AM)brad from wentzville on 09/17/2007 02:27 PM
is the trail to machens open yet? if not, does anyone know when it will open? is there any food/water there. thanks.
GB from O'Fallon on 09/17/2007 07:14 PM
I road the trail 2 weeks ago and it did not go more than 5 miles east of the St. Charles railhead. The trail turned from hardpack base to tall weeds.
GC from Columbia, Mo. on 09/18/2007 07:18 AM
The trail IS there, but not officially open. I walked it back in July. After a mile or two of the weeds, the trail that we all know and love resumes all the way to Black Walnut and on to Machens. There are no services available, at least when I was on it. The Machens trailhead is a little difficult to get to, but that part of the trail can be done.
DougK from Troy on 09/19/2007 05:33 PM
They have restrooms but no water.
Nails on 10/21/2007 09:09 AM
For what it's worth, The trail currently "ends" at mile 36.91 which is 0.68 miles Northeast of MO-370.
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Where do I start
-  + I live in St. Louis County and have never visited the Katy Trail. I'm taking off work on Friday 10/12 to take my grandson bike riding. However I don't know where to go to start biking. Can someone giv...
Discussion started 10/10/2007 11:18 AM by TerryE - 4 replies (last reply by frank at 10/17/2007 02:23 PM)TerryE from St. Louis County on 10/10/2007 11:18 AM
I live in St. Louis County and have never visited the Katy Trail. I'm taking off work on Friday 10/12 to take my grandson bike riding. However I don't know where to go to start biking. Can someone give me some idea's please.
Thank you
Ray (webmaster) on 10/10/2007 01:05 PM
There are so many places to start, and they're all good!
If you're just looking for a convenient location near St Louis, check out the
Parking and Riding Suggestions page. St Charles trailhead and the Page Extension lot are the easiest spots to reach from St Louis.
On that end of the trail, you might start at St Charles if you want to be near businesses and services. You might head north from Weldon Spring if you want to see the river and remote wooded areas. You might go to Augusta if you're interested in wineries and visiting a charming and quaint town. If you want to see river bluffs, your best bet is to go farther west, heading west from McKittrick or east from Rocheport (to name just a few of the many options).
You can ride on the Katy many many times and experience different surroundings each time. Have fun!
frank from festus on 10/11/2007 11:11 PM
hey terry, a nice place to start would be st. charles or defiance. my wife and i rode from st. charles out bouts 10 miles the back. also started at defiance, rode to agusta and back to defiance. both easy rides, and the defiance ride a little more scenic, personal opinion only. either which way, enjoy the ride, and have fun.
Terry from St. Louis County on 10/17/2007 12:41 PM
Hello,
My grandson and I started in Old Town St. Charles and rode south for quite a ways. We didn't go real far, beings it was our first time. But it was soooo nice. I would like to take him to Weldon Springs in a couple of weeks. We packed a lunch and just had a really nice outing. o:)
Terry
frank from festus on 10/17/2007 02:23 PM
hey terry, thanx for letting us know how your trip went. glad you both had fun, and your back safely.
Feral Goats
-  + Back in the early '90s, I saw a group (herd?) of wild-looking, shaggy goats with long, stringy fur and longish horns, peering out at me from the rocky hill on my left as I was biking from Rocheport to...
Discussion started 06/25/2007 03:40 PM by biking beginner - 8 replies (last reply by Michael Keller at 10/15/2007 07:45 PM)biking beginner from Farmington on 06/25/2007 03:40 PM
Back in the early '90s, I saw a group (herd?) of wild-looking, shaggy goats with long, stringy fur and longish horns, peering out at me from the rocky hill on my left as I was biking from Rocheport to Easley.
I was reminded of it recently as I participated in the Wild on the Katy ride last week, and I mentioned it to my dad, who said he recollected something about feral goats being decimated by farmers who had a problem with them.
Anyone know anything about this?
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/26/2007 05:10 AM
I saw a goat right on the trail one time. I actually thought it might be some type of wild mountain goat living on the mountain-like bluffs, but I asked a local and he said it was some farmer's goat that got loose. I don't know about wild feral goats. Maybe.
biking beginner from Farmington on 06/26/2007 02:54 PM
Was it shaggy? My dad was saying that yes, they were formerly domesticated but turned feral.
Then again, he's pulled my chain before, pun intended.
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/26/2007 06:10 PM
all goats are shaggy.
Anonymous on 06/26/2007 07:08 PM
There is a farmer that has a field of goats on the east side of the trail maybe a mile before Huntsdale which would be maybe midway between Rocheport and Easly. Maybe he had some get loose.
DougK from Troy on 06/29/2007 09:58 AM
FYI: You can see one of these goats if you go to Klondike Park in Augusta. Follow the road to the scenic overview behind the conference center, he's usually up there grazing in the field.
biking beginner from Farmington on 06/29/2007 05:09 PM
Did I say "shaggy?" These had long strands of fur, practically touching the ground. The long hair was matted with leaves, twigs, etc. stuck in it. They were in a herd, about 15 feet from the trail with no fence in sight.
Guess I was dreaming it. I've seen farm goats before, and these weren't it.
howard hughes blues from kc on 06/30/2007 04:41 AM
the one I saw had pretty healthy looking white hair. It's entirely possible imho, that a herd of feral goats could survive in that area. plenty of food and water.
Michael Keller from Saint Louis, MO on 10/15/2007 07:45 PM
Last year (the last week of September), I was behind the Conference Center in Klondike Park, and I, too, have seen this goat. He's definitely not an escapee from a farmer. This thing has long shaggy grey hair, curled "Ram's horns", and a temper! I did manage to get a couple pictures of him before he bluffed me by pawing the ground, shaking his head - and running right up the side of the bluff. This week, I went further up the mountain (the back trail), and I could definitely smell him - the greasy, musky wild smell. I could smell him in a couple different areas. I also saw goat droppings. He's more than Klondike legend - he's very real! This is "winery weather", and the park was busy. I heard several people from various groups talking about the "billy goat".
Hermann highway 19 Bridge.
-  + If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side. <...
Discussion started 05/28/2005 01:42 PM by Ranj - 3 replies (last reply by BoatnBiker at 10/15/2007 06:14 PM)Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Ranj from KC on 05/28/2005 01:42 PM
If by ill luck you get into the McKittrick trailhead after dark and you have not arrainged a shuttle across the Mo19 bridge into Hermann, I recommend you consider camping out on the McKittrick side.
I have been riding a long time on streets, roads, and highways and never had a more harrowing, less enjoyable experience.
During the day I have generally not had bad experiences, but at night, something changes in the character of the drivers on that bridge.
It desperately needs to be replaced.
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:51 PM
Glory be! This weekend we rode the new bridge. so nice and easy!
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
Anonymous on 10/02/2007 05:06 AM
The new bridge is a piece of cake in the day light. The old bridge plan scary. I think the trail is offically closed after dark. Not safe to be on any trail or bridge after dark.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
BoatnBiker from Rhineland on 10/15/2007 06:14 PM
The new bridge is open with a lit bike path. I have not ridden it in the dark but it shouldn't be any trouble as you are seperated from traffic by a wide shoulder as well as a wall.
Steamboat Junction Campground (Bluffton)
-  + Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor...
Discussion started 10/14/2007 10:23 PM by JustJoe - 0 repliesJustJoe from St Louis on 10/14/2007 10:23 PM
Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor system (at least when I rode by there was no one to collect the money). So I was more than happy to pay. While I was stopped the owner came out and we chatted about the camping, the cabins and the honor system. What a nice lady and a great place. I'm really glad Steamboat Junction was there when I needed it.
JustJoe from St Louis on 10/14/2007 10:23 PM
Rode by here on a miserable, cold, rainy Saturday. Had gone about 20 miles with nothing to drink when I came to Steamboat Campground. They had drinks in a fridge outside and payment was on the honor system (at least when I rode by there was no one to collect the money). So I was more than happy to pay. While I was stopped the owner came out and we chatted about the camping, the cabins and the honor system. What a nice lady and a great place. I'm really glad Steamboat Junction was there when I needed it.
Sedalia Trailhead - Depot (Sedalia)
-  + Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a M...
Discussion started 10/14/2007 08:12 PM by Roy Ramirez, Jr. - 0 repliesRoy Ramirez, Jr. from Oklahoma City on 10/14/2007 08:12 PM
Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a Mr. Wendte. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Roy Ramirez, Jr.
Roy Ramirez, Jr. from Oklahoma City on 10/14/2007 08:12 PM
Is there an existing list of employees roster from the 30's and 40's? My father(Roy(Raul)Ramirez) was a track supervisor of a track laying team from Katy to Sedalia. The paymaster at that time was a Mr. Wendte. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Roy Ramirez, Jr.
Katy Trail
-  + 21w1e`3
Discussion started 10/14/2007 06:40 PM by 234 - 0 replies234 from 234r on 10/14/2007 06:40 PM
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Terry & Kathy's Tavern (Defiance)
-  + This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 10:16 PM by Donna - 0 repliesDonna from St Louis on 10/13/2007 10:16 PM
This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop and see
Donna from St Louis on 10/13/2007 10:16 PM
This is a very fun stop.
Whether you need to stop and stretch or stop for a pizza and beer. This parking lot is often full, but if your on a bicycle, parking is everywhere and free.
A must stop and see
RT Weilers (St Charles)
-  + They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, ...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 04:50 PM - 0 repliesAnonymous from st. charles on 10/13/2007 04:50 PM
They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, now its only the bar for us.
Anonymous from st. charles on 10/13/2007 04:50 PM
They have the best wings and great smoked meat. The only way to eat here is up at the bar where u get the fastest service, we sat at a table once and the service was awful but the food was fabulous, now its only the bar for us.
Swan Haven Inn (Augusta)
-  + We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excelle...
Discussion started 10/13/2007 03:25 PM by Donita and Greg - 0 repliesDonita and Greg from Great Bend,KS on 10/13/2007 03:25 PM
We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excellent and helped give us extra fuel for another ride. We would recommend the swan haven to anyone!!!!!
Donita and Greg from Great Bend,KS on 10/13/2007 03:25 PM
We enjoyed our night stay very much. Your house is very beautiful and we enjoyed our room and the bed was very comfortable. The hot tub was to die for after a long bike ride. The breakfast was excellent and helped give us extra fuel for another ride. We would recommend the swan haven to anyone!!!!!
topeak comp 140
-  + where i put the values of real wheel size in this ciclocomputer?
Discussion started 10/12/2007 06:37 PM by henrique - 1 reply (last reply by Gary at 10/13/2007 08:59 AM)henrique from Porto Alegre on 10/12/2007 06:37 PM
where i put the values of real wheel size in this ciclocomputer?
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 10/13/2007 08:59 AM
Follow this link to download the instructions for the Topeak Comp 140:
http://topeak.com/sub/documents/M-TPC5-GB-5-05.pdf
You can enlarge the view of the PDF file in case you are having problems reading the fine print.
Birk's Gasthaus (Hermann)
-  + Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service bu...
Discussion started 10/12/2007 08:37 PM by David and Tyler Kate Ferguson - 0 repliesDavid and Tyler Kate Ferguson from Bloomington, Indiana on 10/12/2007 08:37 PM
Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service but Rick made us brownies at nite - maybe he just wanted brownies and
decided to share, but he made us feel like welcome guests. We recommend Birks.
David and Tyler Kate Ferguson from Bloomington, Indiana on 10/12/2007 08:37 PM
Rick was a great host. He really provided a great atmosphere. Room was comfortable.
Shower was great. Breakfast was good and company was entertaining. Not sure if it's
standard service but Rick made us brownies at nite - maybe he just wanted brownies and
decided to share, but he made us feel like welcome guests. We recommend Birks.
wineries
-  + We were biking the KATY Trail in the Defiance area and stumbled upon the greatest little winery "Yellow Farmhouse Winery" They have been there for several years, but recently opened a tasting room thi...
Discussion started 09/28/2007 01:44 PM by rj from manchester - 1 reply (last reply by Sarah G at 10/11/2007 12:01 PM)rj from manchester from manchester mo on 09/28/2007 01:44 PM
We were biking the KATY Trail in the Defiance area and stumbled upon the greatest little winery "Yellow Farmhouse Winery" They have been there for several years, but recently opened a tasting room this summer. The owner and Winemaker, toured us through his vineyard and the quaint (but amazingly high-tech) winery. The tasting was a revelation! He taught us more about Missouri Wines in 30 minutes than we had learned in a lifetime. They don't provide a place to sit and drink wine, but the tasting room is unique with lots of interesting touches. Complete with oak barrels, a real bottling machine and free water for Katy Trail Bikers, what a treasure. They do charge $5.00 for tasting which is unlimited, you get to keep a beautiful embossed wine glass and the tasting fee is applied against the purchase of wine. It's a very friendly spot to stop, and a welcome contrast to the larger "impersonal" wineries. We highly recommend it as a "must see".
Sarah G from Chesterfield on 10/11/2007 12:01 PM
Thanks for the tip rj. We visited the Yellow Farm House Winery on Sunday and absolutely loved the atmosphere. We met a gentleman who informed us they will be opening their hillside next spring for picnics etc. The hillside has the most awesome view of the river valley. We took a tour of the winery and learned all about the wine making process. The Yellow Farm House Winery is a more personal alternative to some of the larger wineries that seem to cater to the inebriated if you know what I mean. We will definitely return next spring with our children for an afternoon picnic. We rate this a "must see" on the Katy Trail.