Survey-2006
- + Catch the Katy 2006 was a great ride! I personally had a great time.
I was told that we would have an opportunity to fill out the survey online if we were unable to complete it at the last sto...
Discussion started 06/25/2006 02:25 PM - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 06/27/2006 02:47 PM)Anonymous on 06/25/2006 02:25 PM
Catch the Katy 2006 was a great ride! I personally had a great time.
I was told that we would have an opportunity to fill out the survey online if we were unable to complete it at the last stop. I haven't as of yet found it on line. Can anyone give me a hint as where to go.
Thanks so much.
See ya on the trail
Anonymous on 06/27/2006 02:47 PM
You can e-mail DNR to get the link to the survey. moparks @ dnr.mo.gov
4 Trails Restaurant
- + Someone mentioned the 4 Trails Restaurant. I couldn't find a phone number, so I called Casey's General Store and got it. 848-3500. Home cooked food, breads, pies, cinnamon rolls. Open from 6am-7pm...
Discussion started 06/27/2006 10:42 AM by Lesley - 0 repliesLesley from Kansas City on 06/27/2006 10:42 AM
Someone mentioned the 4 Trails Restaurant. I couldn't find a phone number, so I called Casey's General Store and got it. 848-3500. Home cooked food, breads, pies, cinnamon rolls. Open from 6am-7pm. It is located next to the high school. The owner said to take the viaduct (which is also Hwy 5) to town, turn left and it's next to the pool and high school. Hope it's good. We're going on Saturday.
Two nights 3 days
- + Anyone know of a nice trail segment where we can B&B for two nights anc cyle for three? Thanks - Nil
Discussion started 06/25/2006 08:25 PM by Neil - 2 replies (last reply by Austin at 06/26/2006 09:17 PM)Neil from Lawrence on 06/25/2006 08:25 PM
Anyone know of a nice trail segment where we can B&B for two nights anc cyle for three? Thanks - Nil
TRinJboro from Jonesboro, AR on 06/26/2006 11:41 AM
Depends on how far you want to bike each day. A good trip is to leave your vehicle at Hermann, and catch the AMTRACK to Sedelia. From there bike to Rocheport where there are several B & B's. Then bike the next day to Jeff City where there are both B & B's and motels. Then on to Hermann on the third day. Or you can go the other way and bike from St. Charles to Jeff City and catch the Amtrack back. Good stopping places would be B & B's at Marthasville, and Bluffton. You'll have to use a shuttle from the AMTRACK station to the trailhead at St. Charles
Austin from Longmont, CO on 06/26/2006 09:17 PM
A couple friends a I did a 3 day, 2 night ride a few months ago. On day 1, we parked at Sedalia and rode Amtrak to Washington. The train ride took a few hours and we were there before 1 pm. Then we rode about 40 miles to Hermann for the first night. On day 2 we rode 50 miles to Hartsburg, where we stayed at the Globe Hotel. Then on day 3 we rode 75 miles back to Sedalia. Here are some photos from that ride.
http://www.pbase.com/rkymthiker/katytrail_2006&page=all
Good wheels to ride on?
- + I am planning a trip for early October to cover the total length of the Katy Trail. I will be riding my Fuji road bike, but my question is about my wheels. On the bike currently, I have a set of Per...
Discussion started 06/14/2006 01:09 PM by Jason - 4 replies (last reply by sbikes at 06/25/2006 11:40 PM)Jason from Huntsville, AL on 06/14/2006 01:09 PM
I am planning a trip for early October to cover the total length of the Katy Trail. I will be riding my Fuji road bike, but my question is about my wheels. On the bike currently, I have a set of Performance Titan Forte Aero wheels. I was riding on the street the other day and broke a spoke. This makes me question the strength of the wheels. They only have 16 spoke on the front and 20 on the rear. I have the stock wheels that came on the bike which are also aero wheels but they have the standard type and number of spokes. I plan to have probably 40-50 pounds of gear on the bike. I weigh about 165. Just wondering if anyone had ridden the Katy with aero wheels or if I would be better off with my stock wheels. Thanks in advance!
Nails on 06/14/2006 08:48 PM
I have Rolf Vigor Tandem on my tandem (of course). 20 bladed spokes on the front and 24 on the rear. Apparently, I'm the only owner of these wheels on record to bend a rim. I've bent 3. All on the road. I've had no trouble whatsoever on the KATY with these wheels. However, if I were you, I err on the side of caution and go with more spokes. You won't lose much speed and I'd take the durability with that much weight hanging on the bike. I'd also encourage you to be more spartan and warn you not to carry more than 15 pound in your pack.
Mark of the Dalton Boys from Austin, TX/Columbia, MO. on 06/16/2006 09:15 AM
I believe that one of the most functional suggestions I've ever seen regarding what to take involves putting what you are going to take on the floor, look at it again, take out what may be superfulous, do it again. Whatever you take, you have to haul (wherever you go, there you are), but in the final analysis you might utilize Freewheelin' Frank's (of the Fabulous Furry Freakbrothers), take on it and that is....better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Just a thought. You might also check Adventure Cycling website wherein they have a suggested list for "long" bikecamping sojourns. Regards...Mark of the Dalton Boys
geea on 06/18/2006 10:34 PM
If your are breaking spokes on the road then you are asking for trouble on the trail. An average weight of 250 pounds is about all that a most wheels will take. I would forgo the light racing wheels and opt for 36 spoke, triple cross. Your weakest link on a wheel is where the elbo of the spoke inserts into the flange on the hub. The drive side of the rear wheel will always have the most failures and when one fails others will follow. This can be a costly repair in more ways than one if you can not fix it yourself.
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/25/2006 11:40 PM
Call Hartsburg Cycle Depot and ask them for a recommendation. They deal with folks on the
Trail all the time. Pam and Mark are the owners and they are just fabulous people and I am
sure they will help you out.
Hartsburg Cycle Depot (Hartsburg)
- + Mark, what a Blessing you are. Came in Tuesday, on your day off, and you postponed a trip to town to repair 4 broken spokes. Looking forward to the new wheels you are building me to solve the problem...
Discussion started 06/19/2006 07:21 PM by Mike - 1 reply (last reply by sbikes at 06/25/2006 11:38 PM)Mike from Fayetteville, AR on 06/19/2006 07:21 PM
Mark, what a Blessing you are. Came in Tuesday, on your day off, and you postponed a trip to town to repair 4 broken spokes. Looking forward to the new wheels you are building me to solve the problem. Thanks for saving my trip and making my experience on the Katy trail an enjoyable one.
Mike from Fayetteville, AR on 06/19/2006 07:21 PM
Mark, what a Blessing you are. Came in Tuesday, on your day off, and you postponed a trip to town to repair 4 broken spokes. Looking forward to the new wheels you are building me to solve the problem. Thanks for saving my trip and making my experience on the Katy trail an enjoyable one.
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/25/2006 11:38 PM
Mark is the greatest! Hope you enjoy your new wheels!
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/25/2006 11:38 PM
Mark is the greatest! Hope you enjoy your new wheels!
Trailhead Brewing Co (St Charles)
- + My wife and I have eaten here in the past and had a great time. This Saturday we went in and were told we weren't dressed appropriately. We just finished doing the entire trail, showered that mornin...
Discussion started 05/30/2006 09:58 AM by TimG - 13 replies (last reply by Dave at 06/24/2006 08:43 PM)TimG from Ozark, MO on 05/30/2006 09:58 AM
My wife and I have eaten here in the past and had a great time. This Saturday we went in and were told we weren't dressed appropriately. We just finished doing the entire trail, showered that morning and had clean clothes on. I guess my Katy Trail tank top was offensive to them. I'm 50 years old and haven't had anyone for at least 30 years say I wasn't dressed appropriately. My money is the same color and anyone else's and I won't buy their t-shirts so I can eat there.
TimG from Ozark, MO on 05/30/2006 09:58 AM
My wife and I have eaten here in the past and had a great time. This Saturday we went in and were told we weren't dressed appropriately. We just finished doing the entire trail, showered that morning and had clean clothes on. I guess my Katy Trail tank top was offensive to them. I'm 50 years old and haven't had anyone for at least 30 years say I wasn't dressed appropriately. My money is the same color and anyone else's and I won't buy their t-shirts so I can eat there.
savage24 from KC, MO on 06/02/2006 10:37 PM
I had the same experience a few years ago, except they loaned me a t-shirt to wear. (They require the men-folk to where shirts with sleeves.) I have eaten there 3 or 4 times and found the food and service to be 'average' at best.
savage24 from KC, MO on 06/02/2006 10:37 PM
I had the same experience a few years ago, except they loaned me a t-shirt to wear. (They require the men-folk to where shirts with sleeves.) I have eaten there 3 or 4 times and found the food and service to be 'average' at best.
Missouri Joe from O'Fallon, MO on 06/02/2006 10:56 PM
I've eaten there a few times but originally went because of the beer. As micro brews go, it's not much above average but considering the restaurant is in Budweiser country I'm not surprised at the beer being on the thin side. I have yet to try the beer in Augusta.
Missouri Joe from O'Fallon, MO on 06/02/2006 10:56 PM
I've eaten there a few times but originally went because of the beer. As micro brews go, it's not much above average but considering the restaurant is in Budweiser country I'm not surprised at the beer being on the thin side. I have yet to try the beer in Augusta.
Ray (Webmaster) on 06/03/2006 09:27 AM
I sent an email to the owner on 5/30 asking about their policy, but never got a response back. Just be aware that you may be turned away if you try to eat here in your exercise clothes.
Ray (Webmaster) on 06/03/2006 09:27 AM
I sent an email to the owner on 5/30 asking about their policy, but never got a response back. Just be aware that you may be turned away if you try to eat here in your exercise clothes.
pas from Wentzville Mo on 06/03/2006 11:13 AM
We have tried both Trailhead and Augusta Brewing, and prefer Augusta Brewing Co. In fact, we will be there tomorrow after our ride!
pas from Wentzville Mo on 06/03/2006 11:13 AM
We have tried both Trailhead and Augusta Brewing, and prefer Augusta Brewing Co. In fact, we will be there tomorrow after our ride!
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles, Mo. on 06/03/2006 07:02 PM
We own and operate Lococo House B&B and to our surprise our guests went out to dinner at the Trailhead restaurant and were turned away , because the mens were wearing sleeveless shirts ----- this is a street of businesses that make its living off of the tourism trade ------ I dont understand this policy ------ I guess we will have to consider our guets attire before we sugest places to eat ---- on Main Street -------Rhona Lococo
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles, Mo. on 06/03/2006 07:02 PM
We own and operate Lococo House B&B and to our surprise our guests went out to dinner at the Trailhead restaurant and were turned away , because the mens were wearing sleeveless shirts ----- this is a street of businesses that make its living off of the tourism trade ------ I dont understand this policy ------ I guess we will have to consider our guets attire before we sugest places to eat ---- on Main Street -------Rhona Lococo
Ray (webmaster) on 06/05/2006 02:36 PM
I got a response back from the restaurant - looks like you'll be OK if you wear sleeves:
"It is important to us that our customers and potential customers feel welcome here at Trailhead. Our dress code is stated, and posted in our lobby as follows:
Male Guest- We certainly do not require ties and jackets, but we do ask your compliance to our no-sleeveless shirt policy.
Our hostess will happily loan you a clean “Trailgear” shirt while you enjoy dining at Trailhead Brewing Co.
Trailhead has had a longstanding dress code policy which requires adolescent and adult males to wear shirts with sleeves. The policy is designed to preserve the decorum and public perception of the restaurant. Under Trailhead’s policy, male patrons who do not have shirts which conform with the dress code policy are provided a clean shirt with sleeves by Trailhead which does conform with Trailhead’s dress code policy."
Ray (webmaster) on 06/05/2006 02:36 PM
I got a response back from the restaurant - looks like you'll be OK if you wear sleeves:
"It is important to us that our customers and potential customers feel welcome here at Trailhead. Our dress code is stated, and posted in our lobby as follows:
Male Guest- We certainly do not require ties and jackets, but we do ask your compliance to our no-sleeveless shirt policy.
Our hostess will happily loan you a clean “Trailgear” shirt while you enjoy dining at Trailhead Brewing Co.
Trailhead has had a longstanding dress code policy which requires adolescent and adult males to wear shirts with sleeves. The policy is designed to preserve the decorum and public perception of the restaurant. Under Trailhead’s policy, male patrons who do not have shirts which conform with the dress code policy are provided a clean shirt with sleeves by Trailhead which does conform with Trailhead’s dress code policy."
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 07:40 PM
So, tube tops on women are okay, but seeing a man's upper arms damages the "decorum and
public perception"???? Oh my!!
sbikes from Kansas City on 06/05/2006 07:40 PM
So, tube tops on women are okay, but seeing a man's upper arms damages the "decorum and
public perception"???? Oh my!!
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 06/05/2006 08:40 PM
–––Mental Note: Keep ridin to someplace that likes the decorum of green money.
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 06/05/2006 08:40 PM
–––Mental Note: Keep ridin to someplace that likes the decorum of green money.
Nails on 06/05/2006 09:51 PM
Many restaurants ask that males wear shirt sleeves because of the hygiene issues (real or imagined) associated with body hair. In particular armpit hair. Since it is the societal norm for women to shave their armpits in this country, women are allowed to be served in these same establishements in spaghetti straps or even sleeveless dresses. However, most of these same establishments would turn away women in tube tops. No word on what would happen if a woman in a sundress sporting a Euorpean look tried to be served.
Nails on 06/05/2006 09:51 PM
Many restaurants ask that males wear shirt sleeves because of the hygiene issues (real or imagined) associated with body hair. In particular armpit hair. Since it is the societal norm for women to shave their armpits in this country, women are allowed to be served in these same establishements in spaghetti straps or even sleeveless dresses. However, most of these same establishments would turn away women in tube tops. No word on what would happen if a woman in a sundress sporting a Euorpean look tried to be served.
Dave from Cincinnati on 06/14/2006 11:18 AM
I applaud any business that demands a minimum level of decorum. Been on a crowded flight lately w/ some rube in an Indiana wife-beater shirt tucked in beside you? I will definitely patronize this place of business on my way through........
Dave from Cincinnati on 06/14/2006 11:18 AM
I applaud any business that demands a minimum level of decorum. Been on a crowded flight lately w/ some rube in an Indiana wife-beater shirt tucked in beside you? I will definitely patronize this place of business on my way through........
ted from kansas city on 06/19/2006 12:30 AM
Dave in Cincinnati,
Most of the "rubes"I have ever met where from Ohio......be careful with the pot and kettle thing. To think that YOU of all people have ANYTHING on anyone west of your pathetic city is laughable.
ted from kansas city on 06/19/2006 12:30 AM
Dave in Cincinnati,
Most of the "rubes"I have ever met where from Ohio......be careful with the pot and kettle thing. To think that YOU of all people have ANYTHING on anyone west of your pathetic city is laughable.
Nails on 06/19/2006 06:53 AM
Watch it, Cincinatti has the Dolly Parton building. Wait a minute, that's considered a joke, not a plum. Anyhow, we all now know the dress code for Trailhead and can vote with our respective pocketbooks and still love one another in spite of our homestate rivalries.
Nails on 06/19/2006 06:53 AM
Watch it, Cincinatti has the Dolly Parton building. Wait a minute, that's considered a joke, not a plum. Anyhow, we all now know the dress code for Trailhead and can vote with our respective pocketbooks and still love one another in spite of our homestate rivalries.
Dave from Cincinnati on 06/24/2006 08:43 PM
Ted, how can you elucidate your feeble rants whilst failing to observe the laws of the English language. And besides, we have some of the best riots East of the Mississippi.
Dave from Cincinnati on 06/24/2006 08:43 PM
Ted, how can you elucidate your feeble rants whilst failing to observe the laws of the English language. And besides, we have some of the best riots East of the Mississippi.
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Twin Gables (Marthasville)
- + The pork chop sandwich was really good, huge, and cheap!
Discussion started 06/24/2006 07:38 PM by Vera - 0 repliesVera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:38 PM
The pork chop sandwich was really good, huge, and cheap!
Vera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:38 PM
The pork chop sandwich was really good, huge, and cheap!
Dutzow Deli & Restaurant (Dutzow)
- + We had a good breakfast here and it was friendly enough.
Discussion started 06/24/2006 07:37 PM by Vera - 0 repliesVera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:37 PM
We had a good breakfast here and it was friendly enough.
Vera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:37 PM
We had a good breakfast here and it was friendly enough.
Dave & Jacquie's (Defiance)
- + Visited during the week. Good food and service, not crowded, friendly. Full menu (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Cheap and clean.
Discussion started 06/24/2006 07:33 PM by Vera - 0 repliesVera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:33 PM
Visited during the week. Good food and service, not crowded, friendly. Full menu (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Cheap and clean.
Vera from Kent, OH on 06/24/2006 07:33 PM
Visited during the week. Good food and service, not crowded, friendly. Full menu (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Cheap and clean.
riding on chat
- + My husband and I are thinking about a Katy trip in October, and are trying to determine the distance we can comfortably cover each day. We have never ridden on chat, only paved trails, and wonder how...
Discussion started 06/21/2006 11:12 PM by Via - 5 replies (last reply by Via at 06/24/2006 12:09 AM)Via from Tulsa, OK on 06/21/2006 11:12 PM
My husband and I are thinking about a Katy trip in October, and are trying to determine the distance we can comfortably cover each day. We have never ridden on chat, only paved trails, and wonder how much more effort and time the crushed rock surface might require. He rides an Easy Rider recumbent, and I plan to take my EZ3 trike, which is heavier and slower. I find I comfortably cruise on a fairly flat, paved surface only about 7 or 8 mph, but though I am slow, I have good endurance. What percent increase would you guess? Thanks in advance. We have enjoyed the comment forum and look forward to the trail.
Joan Hunter from Sedalia, MO on 06/22/2006 01:32 PM
Hi, I have ridden the entire trail twice. I use a touring bike and am fine. The trail is packed, not soft, unless we have had recent rains. The best way is to start in Clinton and end in St. Charles. I know the trail well and have a Bed and Breakfast in Sedalia. Should you want to chat more, email me. Put the "Katy Trail" in your subject so I know it is not spam.
frank from festus on 06/22/2006 06:41 PM
via, in tulsa. i wouldn't think u would have a difficult time hittin 20-30 miles a day maybe more, depending on your schedule and how much you want to stop and rest and sight see. the trail is pretty much hard packed everywhere, on the order of concrete. there is the occasional soft spot, but few and far between. as far as after a rain storm, the last three yrs i have rode the katy during my g'sons state all star baseball games in columbia, usually the day after a good ole toad strangler of a rain storm and didn't have problem one. main thing is plenty of water before and during the ride. have fun and happy bikin.
Pat from Oklahoma City, OK on 06/23/2006 07:35 AM
I recently rode on the Katy for the first time. While the surface was not difficult to ride on, I found the rolling resistance to be considerably more than a paved surface and my average speed was slower than expected.
TRinJboro from Jonesboro, AR on 06/23/2006 12:05 PM
I agree with Pat, I found the rolling resistance of the chat surface to be 10% to 15% slower than asphalt.
Via from Tulsa, OK on 06/24/2006 12:09 AM
Thanks, all, for your observations. Joan, I'll be in touch as we firm up dates for the trip. Frank, we like to enjoy the surroundings as we ride. The recumbents make it easier to look around without neck strain, and the trike lets me slow down and even stop without wobbling or crashing. We will be sure to take plenty of water. Pat and TR, we were pretty sure the rolling resistance would be greater, but the 10 or 15% shouldn't be a problem, and we will adjust our mileage expectations accordingly. We really appreciate the estimates. Being a old canoeist, I am a firm believer in waterproof bags, and am going to try carrying dry bags rather than panniers for this trip. I have ordered several different sizes and am looking forward to playing around with configurations and ways to attach them to my seatback and rear basket. Thanks again!