Lucy's Bar & Grill (McBaine)
- + We stopped at Lucy's first on July 13th, 2009. We got there at 3 pm,
only to find, heartbreakingly, that the restaurant opened at 7:30 am
and closed at 2:30 pm. We learned our first lesson a...
Discussion started 07/15/2009 11:33 AM by Tyler Young - 3 replies (last reply by anonymous at 06/30/2011 08:16 PM)Tyler Young from Kansas City on 07/15/2009 11:33 AM
We stopped at Lucy's first on July 13th, 2009. We got there at 3 pm,
only to find, heartbreakingly, that the restaurant opened at 7:30 am
and closed at 2:30 pm. We learned our first lesson about the trail--
check the hours ahead of time of any restaurants that you are
depending on to be open. Take nothing for granted. When we came back
the next day, we got there around 11:30. We ordered cheeseburgers,
fries, fried green beans, and a Philly cheesesteak. Bearing in mind
our mantra of the trail food (that is, set expectations low and allow
yourself to be pleasantly surprised), we found all of the food to be
delicious. The staff seemed somewhat annoyed at our presence, they
were out of a number of things on the menu (we weren't able to get the
vegetable of the day, the fruit of the day, or the mac-n-cheese
bites), and we would have appreciated some less greasy menu options.
All in all, though, Lucy's is a pretty good place to stop along the
trail. Just remember the mantra.
What Street from Kansas City, MO on 06/26/2011 09:28 AM
My expectations are never this low! YUK says it all!
Doug from Bluffton on 06/26/2011 09:47 PM
If you're not having fun, lower your standards. Besides, it's entirely possible that you are not really worth as much as you think.
Anonymous on 06/30/2011 08:16 PM
Ate there couple of weeks ago. It was fine. It is a bar in the middle of no where. You can always eat next door.
Rocheport detour
- + Anyone ride the Rocheport detour? How long is it and what are conditions like?
Discussion started 06/30/2011 06:35 PM by Mcp - 0 repliesMcp from Iowa city on 06/30/2011 06:35 PM
Anyone ride the Rocheport detour? How long is it and what are conditions like?
Monett's Cabin
- + Superb service and food. Pick up at Marthasville's trail head. Wishs it was nearer to my home. Great place for a girls's outing or romantic get away!
Discussion started 06/29/2011 06:09 PM by Guyla - 0 repliesGuyla from Danville, Vermont on 06/29/2011 06:09 PM
Superb service and food. Pick up at Marthasville's trail head. Wishs it was nearer to my home. Great place for a girls's outing or romantic get away!
Monette's Cabin - Marthasville MO
- + ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!
Discussion started 06/29/2011 06:06 PM by judy - 0 repliesjudy from maine on 06/29/2011 06:06 PM
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!
Toughest Part of the Trail
- + I have done the trail twice. Once in 5 days dragging a 10 month old and most recently in 2 days with my wife. The greatest annoyance is the signage that says the toughest part of the trail is from P...
Discussion started 06/26/2011 12:38 AM by Rocko - 2 replies (last reply by zbiker at 06/29/2011 02:11 PM)Rocko from Kirkwood on 06/26/2011 12:38 AM
I have done the trail twice. Once in 5 days dragging a 10 month old and most recently in 2 days with my wife. The greatest annoyance is the signage that says the toughest part of the trail is from Pilot Grove to Boonville (unless I read the sign incorrectly both times). Clearly the most difficult part is from Clifton City to Pilot Grove. Have I missed something here?
Darrell from Jefferson City, Mo. on 06/26/2011 07:57 AM
The answer to your question is, no.
My question, what signage are you talking about?
Strictly speaking elevation, Boonville -to- Pilot Grove you are generally going up, but not from Pilot Grove to Boonville. Boonville to Pilot Grove seems more exhaustive than most parts, except Cliffton City to Sedalia, it is the toughest and most enjoyable to me.
You can click on Katy Trail Home, above, go to Latitude / Longitude and then click on a trail elevation chart. Not sure you can trust it though, I am convinced that between Boonville and Sedalia the trail go up, in both directions.
zbiker on 06/29/2011 02:11 PM
I have ridden those sections numerous times. Pilot Grove to Boonville is actually pretty easy, though I have had other riders complain. I agree the Clifton City to Pilot Grove is tough. Clifton City to Sedalia, though has some grade, does not seem as tough as Boonville to PG or Clifton City to PG.
weather in July
- + I am heading down the trail over the week of the July 4th- I've been monitoring the weather but it is a little vague. Also- everyone keeps asking me if the flooding has affected the area, can anyone g...
Discussion started 06/23/2011 08:53 PM - 3 replies (last reply by zbiker at 06/29/2011 01:31 PM)Anonymous on 06/23/2011 08:53 PM
I am heading down the trail over the week of the July 4th- I've been monitoring the weather but it is a little vague. Also- everyone keeps asking me if the flooding has affected the area, can anyone give me a quick rundown of the actual current weather conditions and maybe what I can expect. Thanks.
Jeff from Lee's Summit on 06/23/2011 09:23 PM
Use this site to monitor the flood conditions. http://mostateparks.com/page/58843/potential-flood-locations
Ride on.
Anonymous on 06/28/2011 08:27 PM
Thanks for the information, I appreciate it!
zbiker on 06/29/2011 01:31 PM
Weather as of now is forecast for upper 80's/low 90's. Can almost always count on hot humid weather around the fourth. Be sure you are carrying plenty water - can be a ways between water especially east of Jeff City.
Use this link for general trail conditions : http://www.bikekatytrail.com/#trailconditions
As of today the trail is closed for a couple miles west of Rocheport. YOu can detour around it my going on Hwy 40. DNR generally does a good job of posting conditions and detours and each trailhead if there are problems.
Very nice place [Globe Hotel]
- + My girlfriend and I planned a short day getting here, but it turned out to be a rough one. Hail the size of nickels bouncing off of you makes the ride a bit less fun. Our hostess provided a hose to wa...
Discussion started 06/28/2011 08:26 AM by A MacGregor - 4 replies (last reply by Cathy at 06/28/2011 11:01 PM)A MacGregor from Denver on 06/28/2011 08:26 AM
My girlfriend and I planned a short day getting here, but it turned out to be a rough one. Hail the size of nickels bouncing off of you makes the ride a bit less fun. Our hostess provided a hose to wash off our bikes and gear, and a fantastic stay. The decor was antiques, and beautiful. Fantastic muffins, and a bag for the road.
Cathy from Jefferson City on 06/28/2011 10:56 AM
I don't see where you mentioned the name of the establishment. So let's have some fun and try to guess where you stayed. Since you mentioned a wonderful hostess, antiques and muffins, it could be so many places. But I'll guess The Globe B & B in Hartsburg.
Gary from Near Tebbetts on 06/28/2011 12:35 PM
Kathy, time for new specs? Look above at the green header. ;)
Jim from St Thomas on 06/28/2011 12:47 PM
Bro, In Kathy's defense the Globe Hotel in brackets wasn't on the original post.
Cathy from Jefferson City on 06/28/2011 11:01 PM
Yeah man, it wasn't there! I swear! I get credit for guessing right.
By the way, I'm glad you and your girlfriend had a great experience, come again soon. Now I'm going to have another glass of wine to celebrate my ability to guess stuff, or not.
Sedalia
- + There is another reasturant in Sedalia. Teh copper wolfe ice cream/deli. featuring home made ice cream and daily lunch specials
Discussion started 06/28/2011 12:29 PM by laymon wolfe - 0 replieslaymon wolfe from sedalia on 06/28/2011 12:29 PM
There is another reasturant in Sedalia. Teh copper wolfe ice cream/deli. featuring home made ice cream and daily lunch specials
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Katy Trail flooding for dummies
- + Just came across this page DNR puts out for flooding questions on the Katy Trail. Bookmark this page and you can check for yourself within seconds what the current river levels are, projections, area...
Discussion started 06/17/2011 09:28 AM by Katy Trail flooding for dummies - 9 replies (last reply by Doug at 06/27/2011 10:23 PM)Katy Trail flooding for dummies on 06/17/2011 09:28 AM
Just came across this page DNR puts out for flooding questions on the Katy Trail. Bookmark this page and you can check for yourself within seconds what the current river levels are, projections, area, and at what level the trail floods. It can't get any easier than this people. No need to post endless questions on this message board and hope someone comes along and answers them and assume they actually know what they are looking at.
ttp://mostateparks.com/page/58843/potential-flood-locations
Just insert the "h" in the above link.
Pam from Independence on 06/17/2011 03:38 PM
Can't get simpler than that. Thanks
Avid Katy Rider on 06/18/2011 08:45 AM
I believe most of the trail riders have been telling the "out of towners" to go to the DNR page for trail conditions. But you are also correct that they (DNR) has put a link to the river level for Boonville and St. Charles for flood levels. Keep up the good work DNR.
mcp from Iowa City on 06/18/2011 10:03 AM
Those are helpful but there is still some uncertainty. The Columbia Tribune reported earlier that there were plans to erect barriers on the trail around Rocheport but that was delayed. Does anyone know if that will proceed and will it block the trail?
I'm planning to ride the whole trail with my boys beginning June 27th. A little local guidance would be much appreciated.
Trek on 06/18/2011 11:52 AM
If it were me, I'd contact the MO Department of Natural Resources or contact Dawn Fredrickson the Katy Trail Coordinator at dawn.fredrickson@dnr.mo.gov.
Avid Katy Rider on 06/18/2011 12:17 PM
I belive the annual ride is next week so they will have all the logistics and flooding and "ride arounds" identified before then. Dawn will be involved with the ride so she can answer that for sure.
Terry from Festus on 06/18/2011 10:40 PM
Dawn will be out of the office with the ride next week so my guess is that she might not be checking messages.
Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator on 06/19/2011 10:22 AM
In response to the question of barriers on the trail at Rocheport, those have been delayed. We will make sure to post to the Katy Trail website when they will be placed: www.katytrailstatepark.com. The barriers will take up a portion of the trail but users will still be able to get through -- it will be "one lane" while the barriers are in place.
mcp from Iowa City on 06/27/2011 09:34 PM
So I've been monitoring the Boonville flood gauge daily - it was predicting 24' above flood all week. Now I see it has jumped up to 28'. We were planning to be in Rocheport / Boonville on Thursday/ Friday this week. Any updates on actual flooding? I read that the barriers are up but the trail won't be closed until the sandbags go down. Any update on that yet?
Doug from Bluffton on 06/27/2011 10:23 PM
I don't know how much help this will be to you, but here is a direct and current observation. At 5:16 PM today the river was a little more than 8 feet below the Katy Trail at mile mark 117. That is one of the lowest spots along the trail near me. Hope this helps. I will be glad to post observed changes for you if this helps. If not I'll just keep fishing.
- + Ended a ride at Rocheport today and ate lunch at Abigails. I've always been a fan of their food but have slammed their attitude and service numerous times in the past. I'm pleased to say that every ...
Discussion started 06/25/2011 05:55 PM by Jim - 2 replies (last reply by anonymous at 06/27/2011 08:09 AM)Jim from St Thomas on 06/25/2011 05:55 PM
Ended a ride at Rocheport today and ate lunch at Abigails. I've always been a fan of their food but have slammed their attitude and service numerous times in the past. I'm pleased to say that every aspect of today's experience was great. The servers were young and inexperieced but they were pleasant and tried their best to make our experience enjoyable. Even Todd, the owner, was working the floor making sure everyone was taken care of. As usual the desserts outstanding. I highly recommend the mixed berry pie. Thanks to Todd & Co. for a great lunch.
Anon on 06/25/2011 06:29 PM
Pass on the orange/chocolate cake. It's death. :)
Anonymous on 06/27/2011 08:09 AM
We too ate at Abigails and the attitudes of the wait staff was horrible. The waiter threw our food on the table and the woman behind the counter was short and gruff. They must get away with it because they are the only stop.
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Rendleman Home B&B in Bluffton
- + our katy trail ride from st charles to bluffton and back was made perfect by our stay at the rendleman home. Doug rendleman did everything he could to accomodate our group of seven riders, including d...
Discussion started 06/26/2011 08:09 AM by Derrick D. Slay Cycling Team - 0 repliesDerrick D. Slay Cycling Team from St Louis on 06/26/2011 08:09 AM
our katy trail ride from st charles to bluffton and back was made perfect by our stay at the rendleman home. Doug rendleman did everything he could to accomodate our group of seven riders, including driving 60 miles round trip to pick up one of our riders who became ill saturday. after a fantastic dinner prepared by doug, we all hit the sack in very comfortable and clean rooms. we awoke to a breakfast you cant imagine. thank you Doug, see you this fall!
Claysville Store
- + My wife and I just rode our bikes from N. Jefferson to the Claysville store. We made a reservation ahead of time, and it's recommended you do too just to be safe. The food was delicious - especially...
Discussion started 06/25/2011 09:59 PM by Luke - 0 repliesLuke from Jefferson City on 06/25/2011 09:59 PM
My wife and I just rode our bikes from N. Jefferson to the Claysville store. We made a reservation ahead of time, and it's recommended you do too just to be safe. The food was delicious - especially the biscuits... Ridiculously good! Service was great, the owner was friendly. We got a ton of food for the money (fried chicken, ham, coleslaw, applesauce, mashed patatoes & gravy, green beans, and peach cobbler w/ ice cream). Great down-home cookin'. Definitely worth the trip, and we will go back... soon.
Breakfast was amazing!
- + I got there at 11:30 this morning was pleased that they were still serving breakfast. My two friends ordered sandwiches and they both said the food was delicious. I thought the breakfast was out-of-th...
Discussion started 06/25/2011 12:53 AM by Matt - 2 replies (last reply by Jim at 06/25/2011 05:36 PM)Matt on 06/25/2011 12:53 AM
I got there at 11:30 this morning was pleased that they were still serving breakfast. My two friends ordered sandwiches and they both said the food was delicious. I thought the breakfast was out-of-this world! I love eating locally and while some people complain that the service may be slower and prices higher, they don't understand that this is the price you pay to eat at a local food establishment. Well worth the money and the trip out there!
Anonymous on 06/25/2011 10:23 AM
I had a great breakfast this morning too. And I have to admit, I make a pretty darn good cup of coffee. I can hardly wait to see what I can come up with for lunch. I just love it here!!!
Jim from St Thomas on 06/25/2011 05:36 PM
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Katy Trail user survey
- + In an effort to improve the Katy Trail and learn more about the people that use the trail, Missouri State Parks is conducting a survey of Katy Trail users starting in June and continuing to this fall....
Discussion started 06/06/2011 10:22 AM by Dawn Fredrickson - 12 replies (last reply by chamomilegardens at 06/25/2011 09:38 AM)Dawn Fredrickson on 06/06/2011 10:22 AM
In an effort to improve the Katy Trail and learn more about the people that use the trail, Missouri State Parks is conducting a survey of Katy Trail users starting in June and continuing to this fall. Look for staff and volunteers at various trailheads this weekend asking you to fill out questionnaires about your Katy experience. Your input is very valued and your time and willingness to participate in the survey are much appreciated!
Terry from Festus on 06/06/2011 10:53 PM
Dawn, here are a few suggestions.
1. Build a canopy over the entire trail for the shade.
2. Drain the river to keep it from flooding.
3. Install cooling fans and vending machines at every mile marker.
4. Are the bugs really necessary?
I am certain other riders can have better suggestions than I. Honestly, you guys to a wonderful job with the trail.
Skyguy9999 on 06/06/2011 10:58 PM
Seriously, is there opportunity for input from those that might not be able to be on the trail when these people are there as well?
Dawn Fredrickson, Katy Trail Coordinator on 06/10/2011 09:46 AM
Skyguy, your input is always welcome, even if you're unable to participate in the survey. You can email your suggestions to me directly at dawn.fredrickson@dnr.mo.gov. Also, we take note of the comments posted to this forum. :)
Skyguy9999 on 06/10/2011 10:27 AM
Thank you for the offer. I will definitely keep it in mind.
To clarify, though, is there specific questions that the staff and volunteers would be asking at the various trailheads? Or was it just a "do you have any ideas?" kind of venture?
JPM from Hazelwood, MO on 06/11/2011 09:28 AM
Pave it! The Washington and Old Dominion Trail in Virginia is paved. It's a very nice ride.
skolbe on 06/12/2011 10:41 AM
Please don't pave any of the trail - this state has paved enough trails.
Anonymous on 06/12/2011 03:32 PM
I agree, don't pave it. Keep it in nature. Once paved and it starts to crumble the ride would be horrible.
Carole from St Peters on 06/12/2011 09:40 PM
We rode the entire trail the week of June 4. We enjoyed our trip and the trail. Conditions in spots were rough due to washouts, but most were well marked with 'rough conditions' signs. It might be helpful to have a trail conditions hotline number we could call to report unmarked hazards. There was one huge hole that was recent and not yet marked. It would be helpful to have water at all trailheads. In the heat it was hard to stay hydrated. Businesses along the way were friendly and helpful.
merkin4 from St. Peters MO on 06/14/2011 02:32 PM
I saw the survey takers on Saturday and went over. Pretty short, mostly harmless. What's your main purpose for visiting the Katy Trail today? (Bike ride) How long do you plan to stay? (Two hours) Planning to visit any wineries, shops, food establishments? (Nope.) What's your zip code? (Starts with a 6 or something.) How often do you visit? (Try for five times a week.)
They gave me a longer survey form in a postage-paid envelope. I'll probably get it filled out and sent back in.
At least the survey folks were offering water. I didn't need any, as I was just starting the ride.
chamomilegardens on 06/24/2011 01:16 PM
I'd spoke to some folks from the Natural Resources dept hosting a ride today. The toughest thing that I experience on the trail is educating new riders on the rules of the road. Folks are having a great time on the trail, which is good. However, they often forget the trail is much like any other road. Traveling side-by-side, darting out onto the road or passing unexpectedly on the wrong side can potentially cause accidents. I'd like to see more education to let everyone know how to be safe. Thank you.
Anonymous on 06/24/2011 09:09 PM
I echo the trail education comments. As an example....I have seen some Scout groups that were extremely well prepared for an adventure on the KATY and other Scout groups who had no clue how to ride a bicycle in any kind of a public setting whatsoever.
chamomilegardens on 06/25/2011 09:38 AM
Thank you for your comment. It's so easy to get lost in the beauty of the trail that folks sometimes just forget they are sharing it with others. If we all look out for each other, everyone will stay safe and have a good time.
Saturday - June 25th
- + Does anyone know if the events as scheduled for Katfish Katy and Cooper's Landing have been cancelled for today?
Discussion started 06/25/2011 06:01 AM by Robin - 0 repliesRobin from Macon, MO on 06/25/2011 06:01 AM
Does anyone know if the events as scheduled for Katfish Katy and Cooper's Landing have been cancelled for today?
Tips on places to sleep
- + Need tips on where to sleep. Riding from Augusta to Rocheport in July. Planning on staying the night in Bluffon and Hartsburg but open to other ideas. Looking to do this on a tight budget and packing ...
Discussion started 06/23/2011 09:21 PM by Jeff - 3 replies (last reply by Darrell at 06/25/2011 04:59 AM)Jeff from Lee's Summit on 06/23/2011 09:21 PM
Need tips on where to sleep. Riding from Augusta to Rocheport in July. Planning on staying the night in Bluffon and Hartsburg but open to other ideas. Looking to do this on a tight budget and packing light. No b/b. Thinking tent or something cheap. Thanks much.
Anonymous on 06/24/2011 09:10 PM
I've utilized options in Hartsburg that are generally cheaper than most B-B options.
Anonymous on 06/24/2011 09:25 PM
The Katy trail hostel is in Tebbetts. It is cheap.
Darrell from Jefferson City, Mo. on 06/25/2011 04:59 AM
The stops you have listed, Bluffton and Hartsburg are about right for a days ride. At least those stops have worked out well for me in the past. In Bluffton 9 or 10 bucks to camp and reasonable price to for B&B, Hartsburg is about as inexpensive as it gets whether you camp or B&B, a good place to feed the trail/park donation box. Click on the towns above to see what your options are.