From St. Charles to Clinton and back
-  + My wife and I are planning to ride the Katy next year,2011. Has anyone done the full trail and if so, what kind of time line would we be expecting? Also, is the full trail in good enough shape to pull...
Discussion started 09/09/2010 12:50 AM by Wayne - 4 replies (last reply by Marty at 10/13/2010 03:45 PM)Wayne from Midland, Canada on 09/09/2010 12:50 AM
My wife and I are planning to ride the Katy next year,2011. Has anyone done the full trail and if so, what kind of time line would we be expecting? Also, is the full trail in good enough shape to pull a bike trailer? Thanks for any info.
Wayne from Midland, Canada on 09/09/2010 01:49 AM
Just read Blues' ride notes and found them very informative. Thanks.
Steve M from Festus MO on 09/10/2010 05:40 PM
A lot of people have done the full trail, it's a great ride and a somewhat popular thing to do - the biggest factor will be your own physical condition and willingness to push on.
A couple of friends and I did the trail from Clinton to St Charles over a weekend. We rode from Clinton to Jeff City the first day, then Jeff to St Charles the second day. We were not in the best of shape at that point in the season (June), but met our goal. Not that it matters too much, but we are in our 40s and 50s.
In general, the trail will be in good enough shape for a trailer, but heavy rains can cause problems. There are trail condition updates available at this site to keep you abreast of the situation.
I would say that as long as you are in decent cycling condition, 3 days out and 3 days back wouldn't be a big problem. (roughly 80 miles per day).
My 2 cents,
SteveM
D Walker from Harrisonville, MO on 09/10/2010 08:00 PM
My husband & I have ridden the entire trail twice & many weekends out & back. Something
you might consider is riding from Clinton to St. Charles. The wind tends to be from the
southwest depending on the time of year you plan to ride.
Marty from St. Louis on 10/13/2010 03:45 PM
My girlfriend and I just did the ride from St. Charles to Clinton (then back to Sedalia to catch AMTRAK back to Kirkwood) in early September. We were conservative, doing about 40 miles per day which let us get a leisurely start in the AM and finish in early-mid afternoon. It also allowed us to dodge a couple of periods of rainy weather. I pulled a trailer and had no concerns or issues with trail conditions. Of course, this is dependant on the weather and any flooding/washouts. One note about AMTRAK: you can transport your bike for a $10 fee, but they officially don't permit trailers. I had mine shipped home by Pro Velo in Sedalia for $40 (less than UPS). I think I could have fit it into the overhead carry-on rack on the train, but didn't want to get there and find out it wouldn't work.
Lindenhof Bed & Breakfast (Augusta)
-  + Stayed at the Lindenhof this past week(March 18th). We had a great stay. Met another couple from Oklahoma riding the trail - even Cornhuskers and Sooners can get along when talking about the great f...
Discussion started 03/21/2009 09:09 PM by Mike T - 1 reply (last reply by Rowena at 10/13/2010 12:25 PM)Mike T from Kearney, Nebraska on 03/21/2009 09:09 PM
Stayed at the Lindenhof this past week(March 18th). We had a great stay. Met another couple from Oklahoma riding the trail - even Cornhuskers and Sooners can get along when talking about the great fun of riding the KATY trail. Debbie is a great host. Breakfast was wonderful! I would highly recomend this B&B.
mike T
Mike T from Kearney, Nebraska on 03/21/2009 09:09 PM
Stayed at the Lindenhof this past week(March 18th). We had a great stay. Met another couple from Oklahoma riding the trail - even Cornhuskers and Sooners can get along when talking about the great fun of riding the KATY trail. Debbie is a great host. Breakfast was wonderful! I would highly recomend this B&B.
mike T
Rowena from IN on 10/13/2010 12:25 PM
We had the most delightful stay recently @ Lindenhof.
Debbie is most gracious hostess we have encounted in a b/b.
Also, her "stuffed french toast" is to die for.
You won't be disappointed in the stay.
Rowena from IN on 10/13/2010 12:25 PM
We had the most delightful stay recently @ Lindenhof.
Debbie is most gracious hostess we have encounted in a b/b.
Also, her "stuffed french toast" is to die for.
You won't be disappointed in the stay.
Cliff Manor B&B in Jefferson City
-  + What a gem we found by staying at the Cliff Manor in Jeff City. Called from the North Jefferson trailhead and Thom, the owner, arrived within 10 minutes to pick us and our bikes up and take us to Clif...
Discussion started 10/11/2010 04:56 PM by Terri - 1 reply (last reply by Brad at 10/13/2010 12:11 AM)Terri from Springfield, MO on 10/11/2010 04:56 PM
What a gem we found by staying at the Cliff Manor in Jeff City. Called from the North Jefferson trailhead and Thom, the owner, arrived within 10 minutes to pick us and our bikes up and take us to Cliff Manor Inn. (That definitely beat the hour plus wait that some others at the trail head had to endure with Checker Cab) What awaited us at the Inn was the absolute best experience I have ever had at any B&B, hotel or motel. It was a Manor built in the 1800s and restored to superb condition. There were hardwood floors, antique furniture, robes and flip-flops in the rooms for your convenience, complimentary snacks, a mini-fridge, WiFi, DVDs and everything was super clean. Thom flushed our water bottles, filled them and chilled them in the refrigerator for our ride the next day. To top that off there was no charge for the shuttle (normally $5pp round trip) because the bridge was closed to bikes due to construction of the pedestrian addition. All this at a price that was comparable to the other available motels and B&Bs. Actually it beat the others because the breakfast the next morning was a gourmet feast with just the right combination of protein and carbs for our next leg on the Katy. My compliments to Thom and his wife, Liz. They cater to Katy Trail riders and truly made our ride on the Katy Trail an even better experience. We will definitely be staying there again and will recommend the Cliff Manor Inn to everyone.
Brad from Pea Ridge on 10/13/2010 12:11 AM
They have an awesome website that everyone should check out if they might be interested. From your description I was thinking "another expensive B&B over $125", but the prices on their website were no more than the Best Western I stayed at in Jeff City!
Hartsburg Inn (Hartsburg)
-  + Great value for this place. Private room with your own bathroom. The room was very comfortable, but breakfast was disappointing. You are given a few things in your room and that's it. But, I guess...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:49 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:49 PM
Great value for this place. Private room with your own bathroom. The room was very comfortable, but breakfast was disappointing. You are given a few things in your room and that's it. But, I guess the advantage is you can get up and get going whenever you are ready. Didn't find the owner very friendly - she didn't ask us anything about our trip, but did make a suggestion for dinner at the Muddy Tavern, which was good.
Mokane Market (Mokane)
-  + I agree with the bad service. We stopped here to get sandwiches and the lady acted like it was a huge hassle to serve us. They do have good, cheap food though and a few tables to sit inside and eat....
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:38 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:38 PM
I agree with the bad service. We stopped here to get sandwiches and the lady acted like it was a huge hassle to serve us. They do have good, cheap food though and a few tables to sit inside and eat. There was no sign on the front of the building, but it's just up the street from the bar.
Les Lavandes B&B (Rhineland)
-  + LOVED IT!! This was my favorite place on my Katy Trail trip. Be warned that it is two miles from the trail, but they seem more than willing to pick you and your bikes and drive you up the hill (biki...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:35 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:35 PM
LOVED IT!! This was my favorite place on my Katy Trail trip. Be warned that it is two miles from the trail, but they seem more than willing to pick you and your bikes and drive you up the hill (biking down in the morning is no big deal). We loved the property - absolutely beautiful views. The rooms are very nice as well. We used the hot tub and saw so many stars...and the place is extremely peaceful. We didn't get there in time for high tea, so Myrta gave us our treats as a desert. One thing to keep in mind, you are a bit isolated from town - we got a carry out order and took it up the hill with us when Robert picked us up. The breakfast was delicious and we really enjoyed visiting with Myrta & Robert. I highly recommend this place - and scheduling your ride so that you can take the time to relax a bit here...it's so beautiful you won't want to leave right away in the morning!
Trailside Bar & Grill (Rhineland)
-  + We got a to go order to eat at our B&B, so I can't comment on the service other than they were very nice over the phone. The catfish was really good and a great value.
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:24 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:24 PM
We got a to go order to eat at our B&B, so I can't comment on the service other than they were very nice over the phone. The catfish was really good and a great value.
Heaven on Earth B&B (Marthasville)
-  + They came to pick us up in Marthasville and took us back to the trail in the morning. The cabins are really nice, but you are completely isolated, so you have to take dinner up with you. Great place ...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:22 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:22 PM
They came to pick us up in Marthasville and took us back to the trail in the morning. The cabins are really nice, but you are completely isolated, so you have to take dinner up with you. Great place if you want privacy, we only saw Judy for about 5 minutes and that was it. She brings a delicious hot breakfast on a tray to you in your cabin.
KT Caboose (Marthasville)
-  + Great stop right on the trail. We had ice cream, but they also offered some other food - pizza & sandwiches. A little on the pricy side, but the strawberry milkshake really hit the spot! Only outdo...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:19 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:19 PM
Great stop right on the trail. We had ice cream, but they also offered some other food - pizza & sandwiches. A little on the pricy side, but the strawberry milkshake really hit the spot! Only outdoor seating. Free WiFi.
Winery of the Little Hills (St Charles)
-  + We had dinner here the night before our trip. Great patio setting with lots of firepits - loved the place, but the food was just so-so.
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:17 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:17 PM
We had dinner here the night before our trip. Great patio setting with lots of firepits - loved the place, but the food was just so-so.
Trailhead Brewing Co (St Charles)
-  + This brewery is right on the Katy Trail and perfect place to get a beer when finishing your ride! We sat at the bar and had good service, but we only had a drink. Didn't feel out of place at all in ...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:15 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:15 PM
This brewery is right on the Katy Trail and perfect place to get a beer when finishing your ride! We sat at the bar and had good service, but we only had a drink. Didn't feel out of place at all in our bike clothes. Pretty good local beers too.
Lococo House III (St Charles)
-  + We stayed here the night before we began the Katy Trail. Rhona and Leo were very friendly. They lent us a book on the Katy Trail for our trip that was very helpful. The breakfast was really good an...
Discussion started 10/12/2010 06:11 PM by Tracey - 0 repliesTracey from Broomfield, CO on 10/12/2010 06:11 PM
We stayed here the night before we began the Katy Trail. Rhona and Leo were very friendly. They lent us a book on the Katy Trail for our trip that was very helpful. The breakfast was really good and they were very accommodating to our schedule for breakfast and the shuttle.They shuttled us to Booneville and made sure we had their phone number in case we needed anything on our bike trip. We left our vehicle at the B&B and felt good leaving it where someone could keep an eye on it. Upon our return, Rhona had freshly baked treats for us and offered the use of the shower even though we weren't spending the night.
where can you see river the most
-  + we want to head to the trail this week. we have seen St Charles to ditzow. Wondering where you can see the river the most & the best bluff scenery. I can't ride to far before the old knee gives ou...
Discussion started 10/11/2010 12:42 AM by mary g - 2 replies (last reply by Dave from Kansas at 10/12/2010 03:25 PM)mary g from st louis, MO on 10/11/2010 12:42 AM
we want to head to the trail this week. we have seen St Charles to ditzow. Wondering where you can see the river the most & the best bluff scenery. I can't ride to far before the old knee gives out, so i hate to waste my miles without great scenerey.
Thanks fo rany suggestions.
Doug from Bluffton on 10/11/2010 09:48 AM
For a 10 mile ride you could park in Bluffton and ride up to Portland and then back. For a 20 mile ride a little closer to St.Louis (but not much) you could park in McKittrick and ride down to Bernheimer and back. Both have sections with the river right next to the trail.
Dave from Kansas on 10/12/2010 03:25 PM
The section from Rocheport eastward to down to Hartsburg is good for river views. There are even a number of places that you could literlly fall off into the river. Just east of Rocheport, there are many bluffs, & also a scenic lookout point that you can walk up to that is well worth the climb up the hillside.
Work started on Machens extension
-  + I just finished riding the Katy. Although I rode west to east I finished by riding east to west
from Machens to Weldon Springs. The approximate 3 miles of unfinished trail was rideable
even ...
Discussion started 10/11/2010 04:01 PM by Curtis W. - 0 repliesCurtis W. from Siloam Springs Arkansas on 10/11/2010 04:01 PM
I just finished riding the Katy. Although I rode west to east I finished by riding east to west
from Machens to Weldon Springs. The approximate 3 miles of unfinished trail was rideable
even with my street bike with street tires.
Within this section they are cutting a path(maybe a half mile or more) alongside the actual
original rail-bed through a green belt. There were several bulldozers parked at each end
and signs about spending stimulus money to complete the trail. I rode on Saturday Oct. 9,
2010 and it looked like the dozers had been working the day before. The ground was soft
and damp with hugh roots sticking out of the freshly bulldozed section so I stayed on the
original rail bed and rode outside of the green belt.
The dozers had been using the rail bed so the grass was pulverized and wasn't a problem
however there were dozer tracks everywhere and I rode extremely slow to avoid being
jarred to death. After about 2 miles the dozer tracks ended and the grass was maybe 6 to
8 inches high and still wet at mid-morning. There were also occasional tire ruts to avoid.
Riding the 3 miles of unfinished trail was more of a little adventure rather than a problem.
However it could be a problem finding the Machens trailhead. There are no signs to direct
you to the trailhead and it is completely hidden from view from any road. I had printed out
its location using goggle satellite and thus found it pretty easily. I didn't want to take the
chance of my wife not being able to locate this trailhead and me ending up being stuck so
we first located the trailhead and then I rode east to west.
The signs at Machens have also been removed and the restrooms were locked. Except for
the unfinished section the trail is in excellent condition. Although the trail around St.
Charles was very busy I met no one on my ride from Machens through the unfinished
section.
Riverfront Bar & Grill (Portland)
-  + Fantastic food, great friendly new owners, clean. Would make the drive there just for the huge fish sandwich. Sooooooooooo good. Keep up with the cleanliness and friendly atmosphere and you'll go fa...
Discussion started 10/11/2010 02:29 AM by Dot - 0 repliesDot from Florida on 10/11/2010 02:29 AM
Fantastic food, great friendly new owners, clean. Would make the drive there just for the huge fish sandwich. Sooooooooooo good. Keep up with the cleanliness and friendly atmosphere and you'll go far. Loved the grand opening. Will definitely be there the next time I am in Missouri.
Dot from Florida on 10/11/2010 02:29 AM
Fantastic food, great friendly new owners, clean. Would make the drive there just for the huge fish sandwich. Sooooooooooo good. Keep up with the cleanliness and friendly atmosphere and you'll go far. Loved the grand opening. Will definitely be there the next time I am in Missouri.
Garden Gate Bed and Breakfast (Boonville)
-  + Terrific stay at the Garden Gate, we stayed here with two other couples after riding the Katy Trail. Penny was a great cook, loved the breakfast and the front porch to relax and enjoy a cold beer aft...
Discussion started 10/10/2010 11:04 PM by Sue - 0 repliesSue from Belton MO on 10/10/2010 11:04 PM
Terrific stay at the Garden Gate, we stayed here with two other couples after riding the Katy Trail. Penny was a great cook, loved the breakfast and the front porch to relax and enjoy a cold beer after a long dusty ride! Beautiful house, welcoming hostess, we will be back!
Sue from Belton MO on 10/10/2010 11:04 PM
Terrific stay at the Garden Gate, we stayed here with two other couples after riding the Katy Trail. Penny was a great cook, loved the breakfast and the front porch to relax and enjoy a cold beer after a long dusty ride! Beautiful house, welcoming hostess, we will be back!
Glenn's Cafe at the Frederick (Boonville)
-  + Recently ate dinner at Glenn's Cafe after riding the Katy Trail with two other couples. Our experience was disappointing to say the least.
Food was overpriced, service was not good. They have don...
Discussion started 10/10/2010 10:59 PM by Sue - 0 repliesSue from Belton MO on 10/10/2010 10:59 PM
Recently ate dinner at Glenn's Cafe after riding the Katy Trail with two other couples. Our experience was disappointing to say the least.
Food was overpriced, service was not good. They have done a great job with restoring the building, but would not return to the restaurant.
Sue from Belton MO on 10/10/2010 10:59 PM
Recently ate dinner at Glenn's Cafe after riding the Katy Trail with two other couples. Our experience was disappointing to say the least.
Food was overpriced, service was not good. They have done a great job with restoring the building, but would not return to the restaurant.
Amtrak Kirikwood
-  + The setup at the Kirkwood Amtrak station worked very well for us. We found the station well staffed by volunteers. We asked for and received a free vehicle pass to use for week in the municipal lot ...
Discussion started 10/04/2010 08:23 AM by Sam Black - 1 reply (last reply by Rodney P. at 10/10/2010 07:35 PM)Sam Black from Fairfax, IA on 10/04/2010 08:23 AM
The setup at the Kirkwood Amtrak station worked very well for us. We found the station well staffed by volunteers. We asked for and received a free vehicle pass to use for week in the municipal lot across the street from the station. We loaded the bikes onto the train with the panniers attached. We did load them ourselves which probably kept the Amtrak from making us take the panniers off and store in overhead compartment. I know that bikes with bags were well over the 50 lb. one piece limit. Bikes rode in the passenger compartment in an open space in the car. No rack. We use Greenfield rear triangle mount kickstnnds so this was not a problem. Bikes stood secure in their place the entire trip. The Amtrak staff did assist one other person with her bike on and off the train. She did not have panniers attached to the bike so the weight was well within the 50 lb. limit.
Rodney P. from Orlando Florida on 10/10/2010 07:35 PM
My friend and I also used Amtrak from Kirkwood to Sedelia. It was a great experience! The volunteers were friendly and helpful. We got there early and locked up our bikes outside till minutes before the trail arrived. We got in line when the train stopped carrying our panniers and pushing our bikes. The train staff were also experienced and quickly told us which train to load our bikes and were able to sit by them. They did not help load or unload though but we did not need help. It took us each two trips, one for the bike and one for the panniers to get onboard. In Sedelia, the train staff had questions for us about where we were going, total miles, miles per day, etc. Very interested. Of course they may have thought we were crazy also. LOL.
Riding this weekend (9th or 10th)--foliage update??
-  + Anyone ride the trail this week that can give me the latest on the leaves and what they'll be like come this weekend? Also, does the Thai food restaurant in Easley have hours of operation in the fall...
Discussion started 10/06/2010 06:36 PM by Kyle Anderson - 2 replies (last reply by Rodney P. at 10/10/2010 07:02 PM)Kyle Anderson from Bolivar, MO on 10/06/2010 06:36 PM
Anyone ride the trail this week that can give me the latest on the leaves and what they'll be like come this weekend? Also, does the Thai food restaurant in Easley have hours of operation in the fall and if so what are they on the weekends? Thanks!
Anonymous on 10/07/2010 11:33 PM
You'll see some color this weekend.
Call Chim's Thai Kitchen for exact hours: 509-295-3810
Also, see www.cooperslanding.net
Rodney P. from Orlando Florida on 10/10/2010 07:02 PM
I just did the trail this past week and the leaves will be at or about peak this next week. They were starting to fall and change from 10/1-10/8. Enjoy the cooler bike riding.
Kirkwood Amtrak
-  + Can you park at the Kirkwood Amtrak station for a multiple days?
Discussion started 10/08/2010 01:14 PM by Stephen O - 3 replies (last reply by Rodney P. at 10/10/2010 07:00 PM)Stephen O from Bowling Green, KY on 10/08/2010 01:14 PM
Can you park at the Kirkwood Amtrak station for a multiple days?
Trek on 10/08/2010 02:10 PM
At a train station? Wouldn't know why not. If you took the train to California, you surely would have to leave your vehicle for several days. Some things defy logic though....better call Amtrak.
Paul Marlin from Quincy,IL on 10/08/2010 07:47 PM
Quote from the Texas Eagle website (http://www.texaseagle.com/stations/KWD.htm) regarding parking at Kirkwood:
"Short/long term Department store parking lot, 1 blk SE of station. Free with permit, which is available from station agent. Without a permit your car will be towed at your expense. Unattended; park at own risk."
There is no station agent at Kirkwood; but I believe it is staffed by volunteers who would be the ones to hand out the permit.
For what it's worth, I frequently park long term at Amtrak stations around the Midwest. Last winter at Galesburg, IL for 2 1/2 months.
Rodney P. from Orlando Florida on 10/10/2010 07:00 PM
I just used the train from there to Sedilia last week. The parking lot was posted short term parking only. You can contact the LoCocoa House in St. Charles and they will shuttle you and your bike and you can leave your vehicle at their B&B. That's what I did and was very happy with Leo and Rhona's services and prices.
Glenn's Cafe at the Frederick (Boonville)
-  + I think Glenn's a nice addition to Boonville, especially with it's location in the Hotel Frederick. I've eaten there several times and it's been a mixed bag. Also, they adamantly refuse to provide s...
Discussion started 08/20/2010 11:28 PM by KaleMor - 1 reply (last reply by Robert at 10/09/2010 11:54 PM)KaleMor from Jefferson City, MO on 08/20/2010 11:28 PM
I think Glenn's a nice addition to Boonville, especially with it's location in the Hotel Frederick. I've eaten there several times and it's been a mixed bag. Also, they adamantly refuse to provide separate checks, which is troublesome when you're on an expense account and needing a receipt. Still, I recommend it.
KaleMor from Jefferson City, MO on 08/20/2010 11:28 PM
I think Glenn's a nice addition to Boonville, especially with it's location in the Hotel Frederick. I've eaten there several times and it's been a mixed bag. Also, they adamantly refuse to provide separate checks, which is troublesome when you're on an expense account and needing a receipt. Still, I recommend it.
Robert from Boonville, MO on 10/09/2010 11:54 PM
We ate their once, and never again. They totally ignored us, delivered the wrong food, never refilled our drinks and then copped an attitude when we complained about the wrong food being delivered. Not worth the time or money -- suggest you try Riverside Diner or the Palace instead. These folks actually appreciate your business and the food is better and far less expensive.
Robert from Boonville, MO on 10/09/2010 11:54 PM
We ate their once, and never again. They totally ignored us, delivered the wrong food, never refilled our drinks and then copped an attitude when we complained about the wrong food being delivered. Not worth the time or money -- suggest you try Riverside Diner or the Palace instead. These folks actually appreciate your business and the food is better and far less expensive.
Rendleman Home B&B (Bluffton)
-  + I have read nothing but good things about this place but after staying there I don't know why. The owner was out of town so he had his neighbor take care of us and to her credit, she did an excellent ...
Discussion started 10/07/2010 06:49 PM by EB - 3 replies (last reply by EB at 10/09/2010 02:30 PM)EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:49 PM
I have read nothing but good things about this place but after staying there I don't know why. The owner was out of town so he had his neighbor take care of us and to her credit, she did an excellent job. Her meals were delicious, but the house was run down and dirty. This was the most expensive place we stayed in during our week on the trail so I was expecting a much better experience. We got a room for three but one of us had to sleep on an air mattress. The bathroom had not been cleaned and the house was much too small to accomodate the 9 guests who stayed the night. Next time I'll save money and stay in one of the cabins at Steamboat Junction or stay in Hermann.
EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:49 PM
I have read nothing but good things about this place but after staying there I don't know why. The owner was out of town so he had his neighbor take care of us and to her credit, she did an excellent job. Her meals were delicious, but the house was run down and dirty. This was the most expensive place we stayed in during our week on the trail so I was expecting a much better experience. We got a room for three but one of us had to sleep on an air mattress. The bathroom had not been cleaned and the house was much too small to accomodate the 9 guests who stayed the night. Next time I'll save money and stay in one of the cabins at Steamboat Junction or stay in Hermann.
Doug from Bluffton on 10/07/2010 11:15 PM
I'm The owner of the Rendleman Home and my neighbor has told me of your group. My response to your accusations: A full,delicious, as even you admit, family style dinner makes a room more expensive. This is not hard to realize. When the reservations were made I told that person as I do everyone, that this is NOT a lace and doilies B&B but rather an old farm house that I am IN THE PROCESS OF RESTORING. IT is clean beds good food and hot showers. One of you did not HAVE to sleep on an air mattress but you CHOSE to. Your reservation was for a double bed with a futon which is what you received. Deb OFFERED the air mattress so one of you would not share a double bed and you CHOSE to do this. When you stay in a B&B with a shared bath you are expected to leave the bathroom clean behind yourself, not leave a mess for the next person and then complain about it. As to the 9 guests. She had 2 people show up late without a reservation hoping to get inside and she let them stay in the loft. Not your room. I am not at all sorry if that bothers you. Next time you won't save any money because you won't have food but stay somewhere else anyway. You and your friends will not be welcome here.
To the rest of my guests that are honest and fun I apologize for the rant. Doug
Doug from Bluffton on 10/07/2010 11:15 PM
I'm The owner of the Rendleman Home and my neighbor has told me of your group. My response to your accusations: A full,delicious, as even you admit, family style dinner makes a room more expensive. This is not hard to realize. When the reservations were made I told that person as I do everyone, that this is NOT a lace and doilies B&B but rather an old farm house that I am IN THE PROCESS OF RESTORING. IT is clean beds good food and hot showers. One of you did not HAVE to sleep on an air mattress but you CHOSE to. Your reservation was for a double bed with a futon which is what you received. Deb OFFERED the air mattress so one of you would not share a double bed and you CHOSE to do this. When you stay in a B&B with a shared bath you are expected to leave the bathroom clean behind yourself, not leave a mess for the next person and then complain about it. As to the 9 guests. She had 2 people show up late without a reservation hoping to get inside and she let them stay in the loft. Not your room. I am not at all sorry if that bothers you. Next time you won't save any money because you won't have food but stay somewhere else anyway. You and your friends will not be welcome here.
To the rest of my guests that are honest and fun I apologize for the rant. Doug
DLR from St.Louis on 10/08/2010 12:49 AM
My daughter and I stayed at Rendleman Home last fall in the very room that was described by the previous poster. This room is ideal for a couple with a child. But for 3 adults that do not want to share a bed then it would not work. Someone would have to sleep on the floor.
My stay at Rendleman was fun,the atmosphere was more like staying with family that you actually like. Also I want Doug's recipe for French Toast!! How about it Doug?
DLR from St.Louis on 10/08/2010 12:49 AM
My daughter and I stayed at Rendleman Home last fall in the very room that was described by the previous poster. This room is ideal for a couple with a child. But for 3 adults that do not want to share a bed then it would not work. Someone would have to sleep on the floor.
My stay at Rendleman was fun,the atmosphere was more like staying with family that you actually like. Also I want Doug's recipe for French Toast!! How about it Doug?
EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/09/2010 02:30 PM
Sorry for any hurt feelings.
EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/09/2010 02:30 PM
Sorry for any hurt feelings.
Katy Trail
-  + Weather permitting I am thinking of a several day ride on the trail beginning November 6. I would start in St Charles and head west back to Boonville (and maybe beyond). I expect some of the trail b...
Discussion started 10/09/2010 12:46 AM by Z Biker - 0 repliesZ Biker from Boonville on 10/09/2010 12:46 AM
Weather permitting I am thinking of a several day ride on the trail beginning November 6. I would start in St Charles and head west back to Boonville (and maybe beyond). I expect some of the trail businesses may not be open, and I saw a comment that water at the trail heads are shut off early November. Can anyone who has ridden the trail at that time of year give me some advice/suggestions for the ride?
Thanks.
Week on the Katy Trail - October 11-16
-  + Hello All - Wife and I are planning a week long trip on the Katy Trail Mid October for our Honeymoon to do some Biking, Hiking and Fishing. Going to mix it up with some Camping and staying at some Bed...
Discussion started 09/23/2010 04:49 PM by Dwayne - 12 replies (last reply by Z Biker at 10/09/2010 12:02 AM)Dwayne from Kansas City on 09/23/2010 04:49 PM
Hello All - Wife and I are planning a week long trip on the Katy Trail Mid October for our Honeymoon to do some Biking, Hiking and Fishing. Going to mix it up with some Camping and staying at some Bed and Breakfasts along the way. We will be starting our adventure at Boonville and head to St. Charles taking our time soaking in all the nature, culture and history of each small town along the trail.
I went out and got the book "Katy Trail Guidebook" from "Brett Dufur" - book has some great information and talks about places to visit. I read most of the posts from this site and would still like to hear some more suggestions and places not to pass up from others and what their experiences where like. Don’t forget to include the areas and places the Wife and I should avoid as well please. I know all the planning and preparation in the world will not prevent every bad experience but the more information and from different sources will help. I'm keeping an eye on the weather and it looks like Avg.high temps are low 70s mid 60s and lows mid 40s. I have lived in KC, MO for 23 years and know no matter what weather website forecasts the weather it can and will change in the blink of an eye.
Thanks in advance for all the feed back and if your out on the trail same time we are! Look forward bumping into you.
Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 09/23/2010 09:01 PM
One item in nature to see for sure is the over 300 year old Champion Burr Oak just east of Huntsdale. The first asphalt road you come to going east after Huntsdale is Burr Oak Rd., look to the south, (your right) you can't miss it. Ride the very short distance down to it, maybe 100 or so yards, it is really something to see, especially up close.
Sounds like a fun trip you have planned, that is the way to do it, take it all in. Congratulations in advance, enjoy your trip.
Cathy from Jefferson City on 09/24/2010 02:22 AM
Burr Oak is really neat. Eat at Cooper's Landing and take photos at Boat Henge. Plan to spend the night and a day in Jefferson City. Book your room with a hotel or B & B that will shuttle you across the bridge (Cliff House B & B, Rose Briar B & B, and maybe Truman Hotel, Doubletree or Hotel DeVille) and spend a day in Jefferson City. The Capitol is awesome, be sure and see the Benton Murals in the House or Representatives (or maybe Senate) Lounge, see Lincoln University's Soldiers Memorial Plaza and schedule a tour of the old prison (MSP, see the Convention and Visitor's Website). You'll enjoy The Mission. Elsewhere, don't miss Jim's Bar and Grill in Tebbetts, there's a cool huge boulder (I forget the name) right along the traia between Mokane and Bluffton. If you end up spending the night in the Bluffton area Pendleton's B & B will provide a once in a lifetime experience (Doug's cooking and stories are very special.) The rooms are not a five star experience but the food and company are. The Little House in Marthasville is quite nice also. Enjoy!!!
Rhona Lococo from St. Charles Mo on 09/24/2010 03:31 PM
I hope you allow some time in St Charles MO ---- it has a charming MAIN ST. ------ side walk cafe, museums,art galleries, retaurants and B&Bs ----- we also have shuttle service ----call Rhona for details 636-946-0619
Anonymous from Ashland on 09/24/2010 04:42 PM
Cathy, it is the Rendleman Home B&B in Bluffton. Lets give credit where credit is due. I've heard nothing but good things about Doug.
Gene on 09/25/2010 12:47 AM
The big rock is between Mokane and Portland. It stands straight up and has flood marks on
the east side half way up from previous years.
I'll be on the trail starting sept 27th.
Anonymous on 09/25/2010 11:26 PM
My husband and I just finished a 7-day ride on the trail from Clinton to St. Charles and it was wonderful. We highly recommend the Hotel Frederick in Boonville--luxurious rooms at a reasonable price, especially on Sunday nights. Meyers' Hilltop Farm in McKittrick is absolutely charming and Maggie is a top-notch cook. Both she and her husband, Eldon, are as welcoming as the cozy Victorian decor. In Hermann, try the Hermannhoff Winery and talk with Billy, resident wine expert and raconteur extraordinaire. Another elegant B & B with a killer breakfast is Apple Gate Inn in Augusta. Although a bit pricier than other places we stayed, we were treated to a huge suite with a jacuzzi tub and a private balcony overlooking the trail. In St. Charles, you must stay at Lococo House, run by Rhona and Leo, two of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. They treated us like family and offer a shuttle service in addition to a huge breakfast and Rhona's homemade "Goosefeathers" dessert. Have a fabulous ride and savor every moment! Jan and Jeff
Dwayne from Kansas City on 09/28/2010 02:08 PM
Less then 2 weeks till Wife and I hit the Trail. Looking forward spending time out doors and in the fresh air!
Kirt from Olathe on 09/29/2010 08:45 PM
There are many excellent places to stay and/or eat along the trail. The Hotel Bothwell and Ivory Grill in Sedalia. Glenn's Cafe and Hotel Frederick in Booneville. The General Store and Abigails in Rocheport. The Peers Store in Peers and the Augusta Brewery in Augusta are just a few. Avoid the Rendelman House in
Bluffton at all costs; nice stories are one thing but filthy accommodations are another.
Robin from Holts Summit on 09/29/2010 11:21 PM
The food at Dotty's in Hartsburg is great anytime of the day! Sorry you will miss the Pumpkin Festival. I agree Augusta is great little town to stop at. They make great sandwiches in Dutzow.
Dwayne from Kansas City on 10/04/2010 04:54 PM
How are the tree's doing on the Katy Trail? Have they started turning colors yet? Only 6 more days and the Wife and I will be on the Trail. Thank you all for the comments and suggestions.
Trek on 10/04/2010 05:48 PM
Going to be on the Katy this weekend also.....my guess is they are about like they are in Kansas City....it's usually a north to south progression. The Katy is predominately east of KC. There was very little Fall color on the RRVT trail west and north of Des Moines this past weekend.
Z Biker from Boonville on 10/09/2010 12:02 AM
Some of the softer wood trees are just beginning to turn. A maple in our back yard has a bit of color.
Grapevine Guest Suite
-  + This was our first trip to the Katy Trail. We left our car in Hermann and Mick shuttled us up to Booneville. We ended our trip at Hermann at the Grapevine Guest Suite. The private suite was perfect....
Discussion started 10/08/2010 05:32 PM by RKM - 0 repliesRKM from Springdale on 10/08/2010 05:32 PM
This was our first trip to the Katy Trail. We left our car in Hermann and Mick shuttled us up to Booneville. We ended our trip at Hermann at the Grapevine Guest Suite. The private suite was perfect. It was very charming and Micks homemade Apple bread was totally awesome. We loved Hermann and thanks to Mick's hospitality we had a wonderful anniversay trip. We hated to leave and we are already planning our trip back.
Steedman
-  + This was our first trip to the Katy Trail. The second leg of our trip ended with Ravena at the Lazy Brush Ranch B&B. It is only 1 1/2 miles from the trail, but when Ravena offers to pick you up I woul...
Discussion started 10/08/2010 05:27 PM by RKM - 0 repliesRKM from Springdale on 10/08/2010 05:27 PM
This was our first trip to the Katy Trail. The second leg of our trip ended with Ravena at the Lazy Brush Ranch B&B. It is only 1 1/2 miles from the trail, but when Ravena offers to pick you up I would accept. It is a long steep hill. Ravena was very welcoming and breakfast was great. We hated to leave and we are already planning our trip back.
Augusta Brewing Co. (Augusta)
-  + We stopped here for lunch just after one of our party discovered he had a broken spoke on his rear wheel. We were greeted by a gentleman who was cutting weeds(sorry I didn't catch his name but he wor...
Discussion started 10/07/2010 06:59 PM by EB - 1 reply (last reply by Chris J at 10/08/2010 03:25 PM)EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:59 PM
We stopped here for lunch just after one of our party discovered he had a broken spoke on his rear wheel. We were greeted by a gentleman who was cutting weeds(sorry I didn't catch his name but he worked for Augusta Brewing Co). He noticed us inspecting the broken spoke and offered to take the wheel to the nearest bike shop (Defiance I think) while we enjoyed our lunch. He restored our faith in the human race! The food was great and they have the best root beer in the free world! (The IPA is also quite good)
EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:59 PM
We stopped here for lunch just after one of our party discovered he had a broken spoke on his rear wheel. We were greeted by a gentleman who was cutting weeds(sorry I didn't catch his name but he worked for Augusta Brewing Co). He noticed us inspecting the broken spoke and offered to take the wheel to the nearest bike shop (Defiance I think) while we enjoyed our lunch. He restored our faith in the human race! The food was great and they have the best root beer in the free world! (The IPA is also quite good)
Chris J from Centralia, IL on 10/08/2010 03:25 PM
I would say that "quite good" in an under statement for Augusta's IPA. It is best I have ever had. But, it was after 2-3 hours of riding and it is freshly made on draft. But that place is great even if you only drank water and have the summer sausage & cheese tray!
Chris J from Centralia, IL on 10/08/2010 03:25 PM
I would say that "quite good" in an under statement for Augusta's IPA. It is best I have ever had. But, it was after 2-3 hours of riding and it is freshly made on draft. But that place is great even if you only drank water and have the summer sausage & cheese tray!
Breakfast in Sedelia
-  + Any suggestions for breakfast in Sedelia?
Discussion started 10/07/2010 04:18 PM by Mark - 1 reply (last reply by Linda@Sedalia Katy Depot at 10/08/2010 01:28 PM)Mark from Wichita, KS on 10/07/2010 04:18 PM
Any suggestions for breakfast in Sedelia?
Linda@Sedalia Katy Depot from Sedalia on 10/08/2010 01:28 PM
You can try Eddie's which is roughly 7 blocks off the trail and the Katy Trail Cafe which is right on the trail heading Southeast through Sedalia. I have never eaten breakfast at either, but I have heard very good comments about the big breakfast at Eddie's
Country Inn & Suites On Historic Main Street (St Charles)
-  + This place is an excellent value! As usual it was very clean and the staff was very helpful!
Discussion started 10/07/2010 06:32 PM by EB - 0 repliesEB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:32 PM
This place is an excellent value! As usual it was very clean and the staff was very helpful!
EB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:32 PM
This place is an excellent value! As usual it was very clean and the staff was very helpful!
Peers Store
-  + Our night at the Peers Store was a highlight of the trip! Barb took excellent care of us. The bathroom is a little antiquated but everything was very clean. The rooms were spotless and the beds were p...
Discussion started 10/07/2010 06:28 PM by EB - 0 repliesEB from Greenwood, MO on 10/07/2010 06:28 PM
Our night at the Peers Store was a highlight of the trip! Barb took excellent care of us. The bathroom is a little antiquated but everything was very clean. The rooms were spotless and the beds were perfect. It made for a nice evening after our ride to just open all the windows, pour a drink, and listen to the town go to sleep. In the morning we shared coffee and conversation with the locals along with s couple of Barb's famous breakfast sandwiches. The Peers Store will certainly be a part of our future trips across the Katy!
jhultberg@integer.com
-  + Lost Camera - Needs medication :)
Please help me recover my brand new Canon camera that I lost between Augusta and St.
Charles on Monday ,October 5th. It has all my pictures on it from the trip...
Discussion started 10/07/2010 01:17 AM by Janet Hultberg - 1 reply (last reply by Janet Hultberg at 10/07/2010 06:00 PM)Janet Hultberg from Colorado on 10/07/2010 01:17 AM
Lost Camera - Needs medication :)
Please help me recover my brand new Canon camera that I lost between Augusta and St.
Charles on Monday ,October 5th. It has all my pictures on it from the trip, you can turn it to
any of the places that we stayed (they are on the camera with a pic of us with the date
stamp) Please return it if you have found it.
Janet Hultberg from Colorado on 10/07/2010 06:00 PM
I'll include a reward! $100.00
Ideal Biker Bar
-  + Yes, it's true. I just found the ideal biker bar. Terry and Kathy's Restaurant in Defiance, MO
is next to the trail head. Bicyclists coming off the trail or passing through can stop during
...
Discussion started 10/07/2010 02:29 AM by Harold - 0 repliesHarold from Rolling Prairie, IN on 10/07/2010 02:29 AM
Yes, it's true. I just found the ideal biker bar. Terry and Kathy's Restaurant in Defiance, MO
is next to the trail head. Bicyclists coming off the trail or passing through can stop during
the day for food and refreshments. The motorcyclists stop at night for food and
entertainment. What more can I say.