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Glen's Cafe/Hotel Frederick
 -  + Lovely hotel and beautiful restoration. Came for dinner at Glen's Cafe because of article in Rural Missouri magazine. A real treat. Too bad the experience was sullied by the very drunk general mana...
Discussion started 05/20/2009 06:45 PM by zack c - 3 replies (last reply by kim at 06/02/2009 06:29 PM)
zack c from St. Peters, MO on 05/20/2009 06:45 PM
Lovely hotel and beautiful restoration. Came for dinner at Glen's Cafe because of article in Rural Missouri magazine. A real treat. Too bad the experience was sullied by the very drunk general manager who accosted every guest that came through the door. Pity.

 
corey from boonville on 05/21/2009 01:41 PM
The drunk hotel manager is part of the ambiance.

 
Parris Johnson from Boonville, Mo on 06/02/2009 02:20 PM
I am the General Manager of the Hotel Frederick. Seems to me that whoever wrote this message was mistaken, as I was out of town on the 20th of May. Perhaps he was drunk and misunderstood.

Parris Johnson

General Manager

Hotel Frederick

 
kim from independence, mo on 06/02/2009 06:29 PM
More likely it was a person who, under the influence, THOUGHT they were the general manager. How funny!

We had a great stay here Memorial Weekend 2008 and the food at Glen's was great. The staff couldn't have been more helpful with our bikes, etc. They really cater to us Katy Riders!


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SereniTea House and A Touch of Claas Spa (Boonville)
 -  + Just had lunch there today for the first time...it was absolutely wonderful...very relaxing, great food and service. It will soon be a girlfriends lunch site!!
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Karen Lechner from Boonville on 06/02/2009 01:18 AM
Just had lunch there today for the first time...it was absolutely wonderful...very relaxing, great food and service. It will soon be a girlfriends lunch site!!

 
Karen Lechner from Boonville on 06/02/2009 01:18 AM
Just had lunch there today for the first time...it was absolutely wonderful...very relaxing, great food and service. It will soon be a girlfriends lunch site!!


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N. Jefferson
 -  + I was wondering how to get from the Jefferson trail head to the northbound bike land to cross the bridge?
Discussion started 05/30/2009 02:53 PM by Rave - 3 replies (last reply by Rave at 06/01/2009 09:44 PM)
Rave from Parkville on 05/30/2009 02:53 PM
I was wondering how to get from the Jefferson trail head to the northbound bike land to cross the bridge?

 
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts on 05/30/2009 10:35 PM
There is a google map on this site of that will show you the area. Go to the Katy Trail Home, select side trails, select North Jefferson spur. You can take Kathy Rd from the trail head, left on Oil Well Rd, Left on Nuter Rd - cross over Hwy 63/54 turn right on ramp and keep to the left of the road being mindfull of oncoming traffic. You can also subsitute the side trail to the left of Kathy Rd which will take you the the pavillion parking lot (next to Nuter road) then follow the remaining directions from there.

 
Gary near Tebbetts from Tebbetts on 05/30/2009 10:40 PM
Correction - the side trail is to the right of Kathy Rd.

 
Rave from Parkville on 06/01/2009 09:44 PM
Thanks for the directions, am looking forward to riding my first century on the trail in a couple weeks!!


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Pilot Grove
 -  + We just did a 180 mile ride with two 4 year olds and a one year old. Had a wonderful time. The only comment I am going to make on the entire trip is HOW WONDERFUL BECKY'S BURGERs and Cones is!!!! Trul...
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Julie from University City on 05/30/2009 08:59 AM
We just did a 180 mile ride with two 4 year olds and a one year old. Had a wonderful time. The only comment I am going to make on the entire trip is HOW WONDERFUL BECKY'S BURGERs and Cones is!!!! Truly lovely people and super tasty food, after five days of bar good, their salads and home made desserts were AMAZING!!!! If only we lived closer... and I'm still considering it reasonable to drive the five hour round trip just for more homemade blackberry pie!

 
Brian L. from Wichita on 06/01/2009 05:02 PM
I second your assessment of Becky's Burgers & Cones! I was going to eat at the Lunch Box in PG on my trip 3 weeks ago, but it was closed on the day I arrived. I saw Becky's mentioned in my Dufur guide, so I pedaled on over. I told the cook that she made the best grilled chicken sandwich I'd had in a *long time*!!! Delicious with swiss cheese & crispy bacon. And they didn't have to twist my arm much to get me to try the homemade rhubarb pie a la mode -- and it was *awesome*! Great prices & friendly help, too. Strongly recommended.

 
kim from independence, mo on 06/01/2009 09:01 PM
We've eaten at the Lunch Box a couple of times - I'm now convinced to check out Becky's on our ride through next week.


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Hotel Bothwell (Sedalia)
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We had reserved for 4 nites, but cut it short at 2. The restaurant reviews are apparently for the old chef, the new is ok but a little rich. We were ok with the wireless going out, but when the ...
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Russ from Austin TX on 06/01/2009 11:19 AM


We had reserved for 4 nites, but cut it short at 2. The restaurant reviews are apparently for the old chef, the new is ok but a little rich. We were ok with the wireless going out, but when the bath water ran dark yellow-brown and only cold, we packed our bags. We were told that they have to flush their pumps periodically, and that was the cause for our loss of hot water. So you might want to ask about that when you make your reservation. It IS well located to the trail, we had a nice ride through a residential area to the access.

 
Russ from Austin TX on 06/01/2009 11:19 AM


We had reserved for 4 nites, but cut it short at 2. The restaurant reviews are apparently for the old chef, the new is ok but a little rich. We were ok with the wireless going out, but when the bath water ran dark yellow-brown and only cold, we packed our bags. We were told that they have to flush their pumps periodically, and that was the cause for our loss of hot water. So you might want to ask about that when you make your reservation. It IS well located to the trail, we had a nice ride through a residential area to the access.


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KATY TRAIL EXTENSION WEST OF CLINTON
 -  + I HEARD THAT THE KATY TRAIL HAS BEEN EXTENDED WESTWARD FROM CLINTON TOWARDS KANSAS CITY. DOES ANY KNOW WHERE THE "NEW BEGINNING" IS??????

THANKS!

HAPPY BIKING
Discussion started 05/18/2009 08:21 PM by GJ - 2 replies (last reply by kim at 06/01/2009 11:02 AM)
GJ from KANSAS CITY on 05/18/2009 08:21 PM
I HEARD THAT THE KATY TRAIL HAS BEEN EXTENDED WESTWARD FROM CLINTON TOWARDS KANSAS CITY. DOES ANY KNOW WHERE THE "NEW BEGINNING" IS??????



THANKS!



HAPPY BIKING

 
robert from columbia on 05/20/2009 12:35 AM
Has not even started yet. When it does the turn off from the KATY as you now know it will be

further east than Clinton.






 
kim from independence, mo on 06/01/2009 11:02 AM
This extension has begun in Pleasant Hill and will progress east to Windsor. I believe they gave a 2010 goal for completion, but that may not be realistic considering much of it is development of the trail NEXT TO the existing railroad, meaning new bridge creation, etc.


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HOSTEL
 -  + Is this Turner Hostel clean? What about the bed, is it covered to be sanitary? Where is it located on the trail?
Discussion started 05/30/2009 05:55 PM - 1 reply (last reply by jd at 05/31/2009 03:23 PM)
Anonymous on 05/30/2009 05:55 PM
Is this Turner Hostel clean? What about the bed, is it covered to be sanitary? Where is it located on the trail?

 
jd from gkc on 05/31/2009 03:23 PM
The hostel is for showering and sleeping, like a bunkhouse, and for working on bikes, if needed. It's like camping inside with a a roof, running hot water, heat, and air-conditioning. Since it is cleaned by its patrons, some do it better than others.



The thick foam mattresses are laminated with heavy clear plastic. You'll need your own bedding. The shelter also has a fridge with freezer, a microwave, coffee pots, picnic tables, and some parlor games. Location: on the north side of the trail in Tebbetts, MO, 13-miles east of Jeff City. The door key hangs on a utility pole outside.


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Problems with Trail?
 -  + I am planning to ride the entire Katy Trail in under 24 hrs in mid June. Does anyone know if there are any problems with the trial? Are any bridges out, and if there are bridges out is there a way t...
Discussion started 05/26/2009 07:22 PM by 24hr Ride - 4 replies (last reply by jd at 05/31/2009 03:09 PM)
24hr Ride from St. Louis on 05/26/2009 07:22 PM
I am planning to ride the entire Katy Trail in under 24 hrs in mid June. Does anyone know if there are any problems with the trial? Are any bridges out, and if there are bridges out is there a way to get around them and continue the ride? Is any parts of the trail flooded? And any other problems you can think of, please let me know. Thanks a lot and thank you for your time.

 
Richard from Weston on 05/26/2009 07:37 PM
I just got back from the trail yesterday. We took four day from Clinton to St Charles. The trail was in great shape.

 
DwightWannabe on 05/30/2009 09:23 PM
24 hours? Wow!



You're going to ride the trail in the dark? Is that safe? Is that even

legal?



Good luck!

 
Trek on 05/31/2009 11:46 AM
The park is closed at night.....so no it's not legal to ride at night. Although, the poster did not say that they were going to do it continuous.

 
jd from gkc on 05/31/2009 03:09 PM
Riders can squeeze out a lot of daylight in June with an early start.


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Help Needed
 -  + Hello friends, we are in need of recipes from Katy Trail Riders and Walkers. Our little church is holding a recipe cookbook fundraiser and since we are the Katy Trail Family Church, located on the Ka...
Discussion started 05/31/2009 01:39 PM by Julie - 0 replies
Julie from Otterville, Missouri on 05/31/2009 01:39 PM
Hello friends, we are in need of recipes from Katy Trail Riders and Walkers. Our little church is holding a recipe cookbook fundraiser and since we are the Katy Trail Family Church, located on the Katy Trail in Clifton City, MO, we thought we would ask for recipes from our Katy Trail neighbors. Our church is in desperate need of repairs and we thought this might be one way to give back to the Trail. Please help us out by sending one or more recipes, along with your name and City Location to Julie May (302 East Merion Street, Otterville, MO 65348) or by email to dreamerjulie2003@yahoo.com When the recipe books are finished we would be happy to hold your name if you are interested in purchasing one. Thanks again and I hope you find the time to help us out!


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Camping at Hermann City Park
 -  + The Hermann City Park is actually a pretty neat place. It's huge and has lots of camping spaces for both RVs and tenters. There's also a baseball diamond, tennis courts, playground, large covered pavi...
Discussion started 05/24/2009 04:26 PM by Brian L. - 1 reply (last reply by Ron at 05/29/2009 09:52 AM)
Brian L. from Wichita on 05/24/2009 04:26 PM
The Hermann City Park is actually a pretty neat place. It's huge and has lots of camping spaces for both RVs and tenters. There's also a baseball diamond, tennis courts, playground, large covered pavillions with picnic tables, and bathroom/showers. From the large number of people out playing and walking, it's obvious that the town appreciates the park.

The camping spots have water, electricity, and a fire pit; some have their own picnic tables, too. The bathroom/shower house was clean and everything worked. The shower was nice and hot, although you have to hold a pull-chain down to make the water flow -- saves water, I'm sure, but isn't very convenient. The park was well-maintained and litter-free. I enjoyed spending part of the evening watching a rec-league baseball game at the park. You pay on the honor system.

The only downsides were (a) it was a bit pricey ($15 for tent camping); and (b) the campsites are all right next to a busy, noisy road. Overall, an enjoyable place to camp.

By the way, the road & bridge from the trail to town was no problem at all -- a very wide shoulder on the road and a bike/walk lane on the bridge separated from traffic by a concrete barrier.

 
Ron from Columbia, MO on 05/29/2009 09:52 AM
The park is nice. Also, from approximately Memorial Day to Labor Day, the municipal pool is

open, it's between the tennis courts and baseball field. What a treat at the end of a summer

ride!



It's arguably as refreshing as the frozen custard store 1.5 blocks east of the new bridge and

the Tin Mill microbrewery a half block further east.


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Jefferson City Cab
 -  + I know that I read somewhere the phone number to the cab company which can transport us from Jeff City to the trailhead. However, now that I need it, I can't find it. Do all the cab companies have b...
Discussion started 05/28/2009 02:49 PM by D Howard - 1 reply (last reply by Darrell at 05/28/2009 06:45 PM)
D Howard from Alhambra, IL on 05/28/2009 02:49 PM
I know that I read somewhere the phone number to the cab company which can transport us from Jeff City to the trailhead. However, now that I need it, I can't find it. Do all the cab companies have bike racks? Will the hotel know who we should call? Thanks!

 
Darrell from Jeff City, Mo. on 05/28/2009 06:45 PM
I have checked on this and Checker Cab (573)636-7101, will transport you and your bikes. Two bike max, cost of fair plus $10.00 for the bike rack.


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Turner Katy Trail Shelter Hostel (Tebbetts)
 -  + I've stayed in the hostel twice and had great experiences both times. First time, two years ago, I had the place to myself (probably because it was 95 degrees all week and nobody else was crazy enoug...
Discussion started 05/26/2009 04:57 PM by Bruce - 2 replies (last reply by Bicycleguy61 at 05/28/2009 02:09 PM)
Bruce from O'Fallon IL on 05/26/2009 04:57 PM
I've stayed in the hostel twice and had great experiences both times. First time, two years ago, I had the place to myself (probably because it was 95 degrees all week and nobody else was crazy enough to cycle). The second time was Memorial weekend. My daughter and I stayed. Another guy was there when we arrived and he was very friendly and helpful. A little later, a nice family arrived and took the upstairs. Great place to get a hot shower and avoid setting up the tent.



Jim's bar across the street was closed, but he opened it to serve us pizza and drinks. The elderly lady to the left of the hostel actually called him to make sure he was in. She's friendly and helpful. He's a hoot. Love's to sing karaoke. anyway, he saved us from living off granola bars that evening. Thanks Jim.

 
Bruce from O'Fallon IL on 05/26/2009 04:57 PM
I've stayed in the hostel twice and had great experiences both times. First time, two years ago, I had the place to myself (probably because it was 95 degrees all week and nobody else was crazy enough to cycle). The second time was Memorial weekend. My daughter and I stayed. Another guy was there when we arrived and he was very friendly and helpful. A little later, a nice family arrived and took the upstairs. Great place to get a hot shower and avoid setting up the tent.



Jim's bar across the street was closed, but he opened it to serve us pizza and drinks. The elderly lady to the left of the hostel actually called him to make sure he was in. She's friendly and helpful. He's a hoot. Love's to sing karaoke. anyway, he saved us from living off granola bars that evening. Thanks Jim.

 
Kyle from Bolivar, MO on 05/27/2009 08:24 AM
Well, I'm the other guy Jim is talking about that stayed overnight on the lower floor with him and his daughter. Very nice father/daughter and would have enjoyed traveling the whole trail with them. After reading a post on April 2nd that complained about some dead flies and heater not working...so what? How can anybody have anything negative to say about a place to stay that only costs $5 providing shelter, a hot shower, no mosquitos, a mattress, and best of all air conditioning. And for a bonus to bikers, it even has a shop in the back set up to work on your bike with stocked tools if need be. This place is wonderful after a long day on the trail. Many thanks to the late Mrs. Turner who donated this shelter to the state who was a long-time resident of the area. P.S. You have to pay a visit to Jim who operates the Bar & Grill next door. He's a special person and will take care of you.

 
Kyle from Bolivar, MO on 05/27/2009 08:24 AM
Well, I'm the other guy Jim is talking about that stayed overnight on the lower floor with him and his daughter. Very nice father/daughter and would have enjoyed traveling the whole trail with them. After reading a post on April 2nd that complained about some dead flies and heater not working...so what? How can anybody have anything negative to say about a place to stay that only costs $5 providing shelter, a hot shower, no mosquitos, a mattress, and best of all air conditioning. And for a bonus to bikers, it even has a shop in the back set up to work on your bike with stocked tools if need be. This place is wonderful after a long day on the trail. Many thanks to the late Mrs. Turner who donated this shelter to the state who was a long-time resident of the area. P.S. You have to pay a visit to Jim who operates the Bar & Grill next door. He's a special person and will take care of you.

 
Bicycleguy61 from St. Clair on 05/28/2009 02:09 PM
I also stayed at this hostel during my trip last year, and I thoroughly enjoyed staying in this quaint little town. I wish there were more places like this on the KATY. And, yes, Jim next door is a very friendly, accomodating guy. The burger he fried up for me was just what I needed after a day's ride. I'm hoping to make a two day trip next week and stay at the Turner House for my training for the DNR trip in a few weeks.

 
Bicycleguy61 from St. Clair on 05/28/2009 02:09 PM
I also stayed at this hostel during my trip last year, and I thoroughly enjoyed staying in this quaint little town. I wish there were more places like this on the KATY. And, yes, Jim next door is a very friendly, accomodating guy. The burger he fried up for me was just what I needed after a day's ride. I'm hoping to make a two day trip next week and stay at the Turner House for my training for the DNR trip in a few weeks.


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Concord Hill B&B (Peers)
 -  + Staying at Concord Hills is like being with relatives...that you really like! We took a nap after our days ride but awoke to the aroma of a great pasta dinner. We had our dinner on the porch, listen...
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Judy and Jack from Knoxville TN on 05/28/2009 09:05 AM
Staying at Concord Hills is like being with relatives...that you really like! We took a nap after our days ride but awoke to the aroma of a great pasta dinner. We had our dinner on the porch, listened to live bluegrass music and were sent on our way in the morning with a more than filling breakfast. Relaxed, low key and comfortable, these owners seem to enjoy their guests and much as we enjoyed them.

 
Judy and Jack from Knoxville TN on 05/28/2009 09:05 AM
Staying at Concord Hills is like being with relatives...that you really like! We took a nap after our days ride but awoke to the aroma of a great pasta dinner. We had our dinner on the porch, listened to live bluegrass music and were sent on our way in the morning with a more than filling breakfast. Relaxed, low key and comfortable, these owners seem to enjoy their guests and much as we enjoyed them.


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Elysian Fields Inn B&B (Defiance)
 -  + Stayed here on the 2nd night of our 3 day ride. Rooms were nice and clean. Lots of loud talking from owner and friend early in the morning with sounds of her walking up and down the hall and steps. ...
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Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 10:30 PM
Stayed here on the 2nd night of our 3 day ride. Rooms were nice and clean. Lots of loud talking from owner and friend early in the morning with sounds of her walking up and down the hall and steps. (Didn't know if that was our early wakeup call!) Gave coupons for brunch at a local winery due to owner celebrating her birthday. The brunch was great! Biker bars down the road were loud but enjoyed the music from our room. If you are early to bed on a weekend, bring ear plugs!

 
Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 10:30 PM
Stayed here on the 2nd night of our 3 day ride. Rooms were nice and clean. Lots of loud talking from owner and friend early in the morning with sounds of her walking up and down the hall and steps. (Didn't know if that was our early wakeup call!) Gave coupons for brunch at a local winery due to owner celebrating her birthday. The brunch was great! Biker bars down the road were loud but enjoyed the music from our room. If you are early to bed on a weekend, bring ear plugs!


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Treloar Bar & Grill (Treloar)
 -  + We stopped there for lunch on our 3 day ride. The cheeseburgers were awesome!! Great service and hospitality!! Will definately stop again when we ride. :-)
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Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 10:24 PM
We stopped there for lunch on our 3 day ride. The cheeseburgers were awesome!! Great service and hospitality!! Will definately stop again when we ride. :-)

 
Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 10:24 PM
We stopped there for lunch on our 3 day ride. The cheeseburgers were awesome!! Great service and hospitality!! Will definately stop again when we ride. :-)


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Concord Hill B&B (Peers)
 -  + We stayed here on 5-22-09. Wow! Where Maggie and George great!! They picked us and our bikes up at the bottom of the hill. That evening, they fixed us a great pasta dinner with salad. That night, w...
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Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 09:56 PM
We stayed here on 5-22-09. Wow! Where Maggie and George great!! They picked us and our bikes up at the bottom of the hill. That evening, they fixed us a great pasta dinner with salad. That night, we were entertained by George and his bluegrass band!! Then, the next morning, the breakfast included bacon, sausage, eggs, toast, potatoes, juice and coffee! Great hosts!! We will definately stay there again when we bike the Katy Trail. Thanks!! :-)


 
Lisa C. from Paducah, KY on 05/27/2009 09:56 PM
We stayed here on 5-22-09. Wow! Where Maggie and George great!! They picked us and our bikes up at the bottom of the hill. That evening, they fixed us a great pasta dinner with salad. That night, we were entertained by George and his bluegrass band!! Then, the next morning, the breakfast included bacon, sausage, eggs, toast, potatoes, juice and coffee! Great hosts!! We will definately stay there again when we bike the Katy Trail. Thanks!! :-)



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Hitching Post (Hartsburg)
 -  + I stayed at the Globe a couple weeks ago and found out after I arrived that unfortunately on Wednesdays (and Mon & Tue, too), the only place to get some grub is the bar. (I should have researched that...
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Brian L. from Wichita on 05/24/2009 03:53 PM
I stayed at the Globe a couple weeks ago and found out after I arrived that unfortunately on Wednesdays (and Mon & Tue, too), the only place to get some grub is the bar. (I should have researched that more carefully & packed a sandwich from Rocheport or something.) Anyhoo, the bar has some +'s and -'s:

+: The gal tending bar was pretty friendly & helpful.

+: Their waffle fries are AWESOME! and you get a pretty big helping.

-: The music is head-throbbing loud and wafts out the open front door -- much to the annoyance, I assume, of this small community late at night.

-: It was terribly smokey, but I guess I'm not used to the bar scene.

-: A half-drunk customer got a wee bit too close as he encouraged me to sing along with him & the jukebox. *ick*



Pretty good hamburger & great waffle fries if you don't have any other choices. I'm told Dotty's is a can't-miss place, so I'll have to plan my next visit to Hartburg for Thu-Sun.



(I hope I'm commenting on the right business -- I assume there's only one bar in Hartburg.)

 
Brian L. from Wichita on 05/24/2009 03:53 PM
I stayed at the Globe a couple weeks ago and found out after I arrived that unfortunately on Wednesdays (and Mon & Tue, too), the only place to get some grub is the bar. (I should have researched that more carefully & packed a sandwich from Rocheport or something.) Anyhoo, the bar has some +'s and -'s:

+: The gal tending bar was pretty friendly & helpful.

+: Their waffle fries are AWESOME! and you get a pretty big helping.

-: The music is head-throbbing loud and wafts out the open front door -- much to the annoyance, I assume, of this small community late at night.

-: It was terribly smokey, but I guess I'm not used to the bar scene.

-: A half-drunk customer got a wee bit too close as he encouraged me to sing along with him & the jukebox. *ick*



Pretty good hamburger & great waffle fries if you don't have any other choices. I'm told Dotty's is a can't-miss place, so I'll have to plan my next visit to Hartburg for Thu-Sun.



(I hope I'm commenting on the right business -- I assume there's only one bar in Hartburg.)

 
DALE CANNON from LAWRENCE KS on 05/27/2009 09:07 PM
Oh Yea...the Hartsburg Emptys...had that happen last year after riding from Boonville..my Brother is a kinda what ya call a big guy and I also am not a tiny rider...so we had them whoomp up those 5 buck pizzas machine gun style.. and we were eating them faster then he could whoomp em..one after another after another..back at the Globe the 2nd floor was rocken and shaken all night ..we both had nitro heartburn all night. Would have given 100 bucks for 1 tum. Our next day ride back to Boonville was very difficult.. Note...Dotys cafe is super as we found out on a later trip...Dale Cannon says ...its all good.

 
DALE CANNON from LAWRENCE KS on 05/27/2009 09:07 PM
Oh Yea...the Hartsburg Emptys...had that happen last year after riding from Boonville..my Brother is a kinda what ya call a big guy and I also am not a tiny rider...so we had them whoomp up those 5 buck pizzas machine gun style.. and we were eating them faster then he could whoomp em..one after another after another..back at the Globe the 2nd floor was rocken and shaken all night ..we both had nitro heartburn all night. Would have given 100 bucks for 1 tum. Our next day ride back to Boonville was very difficult.. Note...Dotys cafe is super as we found out on a later trip...Dale Cannon says ...its all good.


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Discussion started 05/26/2009 03:18 PM by Dick Emery - 3 replies (last reply by jd at 05/26/2009 09:46 PM)
Dick Emery from Weston, MO on 05/26/2009 03:18 PM
My goal for next year is to ride a 100-mile-day on the KATY. I am debating which part of the trail would be best to do this. I have riden the trail in four days the past two Memorial Day weekends. I am thinking the ride from Easley west to Clinton would be best. I am thinking I would climb the hill from Boonville west to Pilot Groove and avoid the hill from Sedalia east to Pilot Groove. Does any one have an opinion?

 
Trek on 05/26/2009 07:51 PM
If you're up for the task, 100 miles is 100 miles...we rode a century from Boonville to N. Jefferson and back a couple of years ago. No hills with pretty evenly spaced trailheads. The Hotel Frederick was a good place to land afterwards too. And I hear there is a good, very inexpensive shuttle service out of Boonville too! Just in case.

 
Doug from Bluffton on 05/26/2009 09:03 PM
Nice one Trek!

 
jd from gkc on 05/26/2009 09:46 PM
Unless you want to view your chosen section of the trail only once during that 100-mile ride, you might consider selecting a 50-mile section, and then riding it both ways in a day. That way you'll have your vehicle with you in the evening, and won't need a shuttle service to take you back to it. This two-way riding is something the locals do a lot at varying distances.



Riders will also go out 25-miles or so in one direction from a trailhead, then ride back to this trailhead (where their vehicle is)for lunch. After lunch, they go 25-miles in the opposite direction, and then ride back to their vehicle for dining out somewhere that evening, or for going home or a place to stay that night.


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Tina from Lincoln County on 05/21/2009 11:44 AM
I will be riding the Katy Trail for the first time, between Weldon Spring and Defiance. (the shortest route) What do I need to take with me? (water, I know) But how do you carry money safely? How long would it take me to go 6 miles round trip? I'm inexperienced. What is there to do on the trail. I want to make the most of it. I appreciate everyone's ideas.

 
Wendy from Des Moines, IA on 05/21/2009 02:27 PM
There are many bike add-ons that hold things and can be found at sporting stores. They often just velcro and/or clip onto your bike. Otherwise a lot of running/biking shorts have zippered pockets for $$/credit card/cell phone. How long it will take to do 6 miles depends greatly on how experience you are, whether you are going for speed/exercise or for sightseeing, etc. Could take 1/2 hour to an hour? Maybe a little more if you stop for water breaks, etc.

 
jd from gkc on 05/21/2009 08:31 PM
Some riders wear pocketed shorts over their bike ones since dress is more casual on the trial. You'll be surprised how well you'll do there.



Watch for birds on that stretch, esp red cardinals and fat indigo buntings. In Defiance, one can see old architecture, antique tractors, and a great bike shop. Also, two places to cool down or chow down there. Fun.

 
ss5 from saint louis on 05/21/2009 10:10 PM
And some people don't wear bike shorts(ie. spandex) period, because they don't want to look like a fool.



As another poster stated, you can get a carrying case that has velcro straps to attach to your bike to carry money, tools, cell phones, etc.



Unless you are in really bad shape, 6 miles is nothing on a bike. However, it is probably wise not to get to far from your vehicle until you know what distances you are comfortable traveling.

 
Anonymous on 05/22/2009 01:59 PM
The bike shop on the trail in Defiance will have everything you've forgotten. We stop in

every weekend just to say hi to the 2 cats and a dog that run the place (and to get ice

cream!) There is also a restaurant across the street that opens at 9 for breakfast and

stays open for lunch.



And to add to the animal count above, we saw 2 deer right on the trail and several blue

birds this morning. There are also several Historic Markers along this stretch and pretty

rock formations worth stopping for pictures.



There's also a rest stop in Matson with bathrooms.






 
tina from lincoln county on 05/22/2009 03:35 PM
Thank you everyone for all the great ideas. I feel a lot more at ease about going. I'll be tickled to go just 6 miles for now. I'm looking forward to the ride. Thanks again.

 
Gary from O'Fallon on 05/23/2009 10:18 AM
Tina, I suggest that you start your ride in Defiance rather than Weldon Springs. The trail head [parking] is right off the highway and easier to find than Weldon Springs trailhead. I also have read that because the Weldon Springs trailhead is somewhat secluded, cars have been broken into there.

 
cunninghamair from O''''Fallon, MO on 05/24/2009 07:41 AM
ss5, please don't be rude. Spandex is necessary to avoid chafing on longer rides, but

not necessary for beginners.



According to the bike shop in Defiance, the break-ins last fall were probably kids. I

haven't heard of any problems this spring. However, don't leave items in plain view--

that seems to be the cause.



There is a sign on 94 for Weldon Springs trailhead, and it's our favorite stretch from St.

Charles to Jeff City. However, if you miss it--you will end up in Defiance. Not an official

trailhead, but nice place to stop (restaurant, bike shop).

 
ss5 from saint louis on 05/24/2009 04:22 PM
If you just have to have spandex, you can get spandex underwear, you don't have to wear it on the outside.



I have been on many "long rides", never have wore spandex with no chafing, so your condescending comment about "beginning riders" certainly doesn't apply here.

 
Trek on 05/25/2009 11:11 AM
I would imagine that most folks that wear bike shorts (spandex) do so because of the benefit the padding, etc. provides and don't really worry about the fashion police thinking that they look foolish. On the trail, road riding, etc. spandex bike shorts are of great benefit. I might think otherwise of seeing someone at Busch Stadium in their riding shorts....perhaps they would look foolish. But maybe not so much considering all the crotch scratchin, bubble gum juice spit'n, over paid kids on the field.

 
Brian L. from Wichita on 05/25/2009 12:07 PM
Tina, you should wear whatever you're comfortable wearing and not worry about what other people think of your fashion sense. ;-) I rode several 30-40 mile days on the trail a couple weeks ago & wore loose shorts over my spandex the first couple days, but had some chafing so I shed the outer shorts for the last 2 days -- much more comfortable, although I admit it's not my favorite style, considering my skinny legs. ;-) If you're not used to long rides, it's best to pack multiple styles of shorts & switch if you get uncomfortable.

 
Speedy on 05/26/2009 12:09 PM
Tina - As others suggested, I'd park in Defiance just to be on the safe side.



I always carry a pack around my waist with ID, $, cell phone, Mace, etc. Even for a short ride take either water or better yet a sports drink such as Gatorade.



Wear whatever's comfortable. If you build up to longer rides you'll see the need to wear spandex or biking shorts which have padding, especially on the Katy where you spend so much time on your saddle.






 
Debbie from Augusta on 05/26/2009 03:57 PM
Hi Tina, Go and have fun. Wear whatever you want but don't wear jeans. Loose shorts, capris, or spandex bike shorts are all great options for a shorter ride. I prefer water over Gatorade - all your drinks will get warm and warm Gatorade is not tasty. You might like to try the ride from Defiance to Augusta sometime. About 7 miles and food to eat at both ends. Take a couple of snack bars and carry cash/card in a fanny pack or a bike bag. I always take my cell phone too, and wear a helmet!


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 -  + We'd like to take the kids on about a 10 mile ride, anywhere between St. Charles and Jeff City. Is there a stretch that is right along the river in this area?

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Discussion started 05/24/2009 07:31 AM by Milly - 3 replies (last reply by michael rodemeyer at 05/26/2009 02:31 PM)
Milly on 05/24/2009 07:31 AM
We'd like to take the kids on about a 10 mile ride, anywhere between St. Charles and Jeff City. Is there a stretch that is right along the river in this area?



Thanks!!!

 
cunninghamair from O''Fallon, MO on 05/24/2009 07:36 AM
The trail follows the river very closely, the whole way. An area around Weldon Springs and

a view over the river as you head into Hermann come into mind.

 
EB from Greenwood on 05/26/2009 01:05 AM
When traveling east from Jeff City, you don't really get to see the river until you get to Portland.

 
michael rodemeyer from Hartsburg on 05/26/2009 02:31 PM
For the best views of the river try the trail from Hartsburg to Rocheport. You can get food and drink at either place and procede at your own pace. The Claysville Store is one of the best places for food if you are traveling on Saturday or Sunday afternoon Its just east of Hartsburg 3-4 miles) Its listed under Mark Hooibrink in the phone book. Very nice folks.


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Craig & Donna from Caratunk, Maine on 05/26/2009 12:59 PM
We pulled in to Jefferson City trail-tired and dirty to be greeted by Randy & Jeanette with brownies and iced tea. The "room" was a lovely suite (The Rustic Retreat)- it was way more than expected and extremely comfortable. Jeanette and Randy were awesome. We highly recommend you have them shuttle you in - the bridge is a tough haul. Randy can easily handle bikes, trailers, etc in his truck. The breakfast is wonderful and made to order. We highly recommend a stay here!!

 
Craig & Donna from Caratunk, Maine on 05/26/2009 12:59 PM
We pulled in to Jefferson City trail-tired and dirty to be greeted by Randy & Jeanette with brownies and iced tea. The "room" was a lovely suite (The Rustic Retreat)- it was way more than expected and extremely comfortable. Jeanette and Randy were awesome. We highly recommend you have them shuttle you in - the bridge is a tough haul. Randy can easily handle bikes, trailers, etc in his truck. The breakfast is wonderful and made to order. We highly recommend a stay here!!


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Incredible!! From the chocolate chip cookies,coffee and wine in the flower-surrounded hot tub on arrival to the lovely room to the "to-die-for" breakfast to Debbie's wonderful hospitality - we can't say enough and would highly recommend!!

 
Craig & Donna from Caratunk, Maine on 05/26/2009 12:53 PM
Incredible!! From the chocolate chip cookies,coffee and wine in the flower-surrounded hot tub on arrival to the lovely room to the "to-die-for" breakfast to Debbie's wonderful hospitality - we can't say enough and would highly recommend!!


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Incredible!! From the chocolate chip cookies,coffee and wine in the flower-surrounded hot tub on arrival to the lovely room to the "to-die-for" breakfast to Debbie's wonderful hospitality - we can't say enough and would highly recommend!!

 
Craig & Donna from Crartunk, Maine on 05/26/2009 12:53 PM
Incredible!! From the chocolate chip cookies,coffee and wine in the flower-surrounded hot tub on arrival to the lovely room to the "to-die-for" breakfast to Debbie's wonderful hospitality - we can't say enough and would highly recommend!!

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