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Bridge at Jefferson City
 -  + What's the best route if one wanted to cross the bridge from north to south en route from the trailhead to the train station?
Discussion started 07/20/2004 10:06 AM by R - 13 replies (last reply by anonymous at 05/30/2008 06:19 PM)
R on 07/20/2004 10:06 AM
What's the best route if one wanted to cross the bridge from north to south en route from the trailhead to the train station?

 
R on 07/20/2004 10:06 AM
What's the best route if one wanted to cross the bridge from north to south en route from the trailhead to the train station?

 
R on 07/20/2004 10:06 AM
What's the best route if one wanted to cross the bridge from north to south en route from the trailhead to the train station?

 
Paul Marlin from Quincy, Il on 09/23/2004 01:21 PM
I don't know if it is the best, but I'll describe my experience. I took the spur trail from the N. Jefferson Trailhead until it became obvious that it would dead end at a freeway embankment. So I backtracked a short distance and then turned left onto a small road, and then after about 1/4 mile took the first left. After another 1/4 mile I came to an overpass and freeway entrance just before the bridge. Here you have 2 choices.



1. Turn right onto the bridge and ride in the right most of 3 southbound lanes until taking the exit just after the bridge. Turning left takes you to the capital. I believe Amtrak is just below the capital. I took this option; and except for the traffic noise after the quiet of the Katy Trail, it was not too bad.



2. Continue on the overpass until reaching the exit ramp on the other side of the freeway. Turn right onto the exit ramp and ride against traffic until you come to a bike lane on the northbound side of the bridge. On the otherside of the bridge exit against traffic on the entrance ramp. Turn left towards the capital at the end of the entrance ramp.



The problem is that there is a bike lane on only the northbound side of the bridge; and there is no good way to get on and off it in the south bound direction. I can't remember exactly; but I believe there were shoulders on the entrance and exit ramps that made riding against traffic not quite as bad as it sounds. Rumor has it that the highway department forgot to put a bike land on the south side.

 
Paul Marlin from Quincy, Il on 09/23/2004 01:21 PM
I don't know if it is the best, but I'll describe my experience. I took the spur trail from the N. Jefferson Trailhead until it became obvious that it would dead end at a freeway embankment. So I backtracked a short distance and then turned left onto a small road, and then after about 1/4 mile took the first left. After another 1/4 mile I came to an overpass and freeway entrance just before the bridge. Here you have 2 choices.



1. Turn right onto the bridge and ride in the right most of 3 southbound lanes until taking the exit just after the bridge. Turning left takes you to the capital. I believe Amtrak is just below the capital. I took this option; and except for the traffic noise after the quiet of the Katy Trail, it was not too bad.



2. Continue on the overpass until reaching the exit ramp on the other side of the freeway. Turn right onto the exit ramp and ride against traffic until you come to a bike lane on the northbound side of the bridge. On the otherside of the bridge exit against traffic on the entrance ramp. Turn left towards the capital at the end of the entrance ramp.



The problem is that there is a bike lane on only the northbound side of the bridge; and there is no good way to get on and off it in the south bound direction. I can't remember exactly; but I believe there were shoulders on the entrance and exit ramps that made riding against traffic not quite as bad as it sounds. Rumor has it that the highway department forgot to put a bike land on the south side.

 
Paul Marlin from Quincy, Il on 09/23/2004 01:21 PM
I don't know if it is the best, but I'll describe my experience. I took the spur trail from the N. Jefferson Trailhead until it became obvious that it would dead end at a freeway embankment. So I backtracked a short distance and then turned left onto a small road, and then after about 1/4 mile took the first left. After another 1/4 mile I came to an overpass and freeway entrance just before the bridge. Here you have 2 choices.



1. Turn right onto the bridge and ride in the right most of 3 southbound lanes until taking the exit just after the bridge. Turning left takes you to the capital. I believe Amtrak is just below the capital. I took this option; and except for the traffic noise after the quiet of the Katy Trail, it was not too bad.



2. Continue on the overpass until reaching the exit ramp on the other side of the freeway. Turn right onto the exit ramp and ride against traffic until you come to a bike lane on the northbound side of the bridge. On the otherside of the bridge exit against traffic on the entrance ramp. Turn left towards the capital at the end of the entrance ramp.



The problem is that there is a bike lane on only the northbound side of the bridge; and there is no good way to get on and off it in the south bound direction. I can't remember exactly; but I believe there were shoulders on the entrance and exit ramps that made riding against traffic not quite as bad as it sounds. Rumor has it that the highway department forgot to put a bike land on the south side.

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 06/04/2005 07:15 PM
I used the phone at the City Pavilion on the Katy Spur to call a taxi. The taxi came with a bike rack and took us directly to the Amtrak station for I think $10 to $15. Much better than taking your life into your hands on the bridge. I helped to have the taxi phone number in advance.

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 06/04/2005 07:15 PM
I used the phone at the City Pavilion on the Katy Spur to call a taxi. The taxi came with a bike rack and took us directly to the Amtrak station for I think $10 to $15. Much better than taking your life into your hands on the bridge. I helped to have the taxi phone number in advance.

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 06/04/2005 07:15 PM
I used the phone at the City Pavilion on the Katy Spur to call a taxi. The taxi came with a bike rack and took us directly to the Amtrak station for I think $10 to $15. Much better than taking your life into your hands on the bridge. I helped to have the taxi phone number in advance.

 
Marty from Los Gatos, California on 06/08/2005 03:15 PM
We just crossed the bridge last week. Although it's a bit unnerving to have cars whizzing next to you at high speed, nonetheless there's a generous bike lane. Bikes going both directions share the lane, but we were the only cyclists. Crossing this bridge was a non-event, not to worry.

 
Marty from Los Gatos, California on 06/08/2005 03:15 PM
We just crossed the bridge last week. Although it's a bit unnerving to have cars whizzing next to you at high speed, nonetheless there's a generous bike lane. Bikes going both directions share the lane, but we were the only cyclists. Crossing this bridge was a non-event, not to worry.

 
Marty from Los Gatos, California on 06/08/2005 03:15 PM
We just crossed the bridge last week. Although it's a bit unnerving to have cars whizzing next to you at high speed, nonetheless there's a generous bike lane. Bikes going both directions share the lane, but we were the only cyclists. Crossing this bridge was a non-event, not to worry.

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 07/03/2005 11:51 AM
We used the cab service again last week. The phone number is 573-636-7101 and the cost was $10. They will pick you up at either the trail head or City Pavilion.



The City Pavilion, a short distance south on the Katy Trail Spur, has running water and flush toilets!!!

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 07/03/2005 11:51 AM
We used the cab service again last week. The phone number is 573-636-7101 and the cost was $10. They will pick you up at either the trail head or City Pavilion.



The City Pavilion, a short distance south on the Katy Trail Spur, has running water and flush toilets!!!

 
John K from Webster Groves, MO on 07/03/2005 11:51 AM
We used the cab service again last week. The phone number is 573-636-7101 and the cost was $10. They will pick you up at either the trail head or City Pavilion.



The City Pavilion, a short distance south on the Katy Trail Spur, has running water and flush toilets!!!

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:49 PM
I was charged an extra $10 by checker cab for the bike rack usage. Not a big deal but it was still a surprise. Ask first.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:49 PM
I was charged an extra $10 by checker cab for the bike rack usage. Not a big deal but it was still a surprise. Ask first.

 
Canyoncamper from Grand Junction, CO on 10/01/2007 05:49 PM
I was charged an extra $10 by checker cab for the bike rack usage. Not a big deal but it was still a surprise. Ask first.

 
ET from Columbia, MO on 10/11/2007 11:57 AM
We also once had the experience that we had arranged for one cab to carry 4 people and 4 bikes, and they sent 2, saying their big vehicle was unavailable. Again, not that big a deal, but we weren't expecting to pay for 2 cab fares.

 
ET from Columbia, MO on 10/11/2007 11:57 AM
We also once had the experience that we had arranged for one cab to carry 4 people and 4 bikes, and they sent 2, saying their big vehicle was unavailable. Again, not that big a deal, but we weren't expecting to pay for 2 cab fares.

 
ET from Columbia, MO on 10/11/2007 11:57 AM
We also once had the experience that we had arranged for one cab to carry 4 people and 4 bikes, and they sent 2, saying their big vehicle was unavailable. Again, not that big a deal, but we weren't expecting to pay for 2 cab fares.

 
tomdet from Minneapolis, MN on 10/22/2007 02:38 PM
My wife and I (we are both old guys) just did it. I had arrived with an aerial photo showing how to get there, really helpful. We went on the bike trail, against traffic. Traffic moves fast and close, but the bike trail is about 6 feet wide so it is not really dangerous. Our only problem was that the bike trail part was littered with all sorts of stuff, some really big, but lots of it just rocks that you really don't want to hit under the circumstances. Combined with a strong headwind and light rain it made the trip over a challenge. The next morning with the wind still from the South we didn't even need to pedal across, the bridge was shorter and the debris not so bad (or so it seemed).

 
tomdet from Minneapolis, MN on 10/22/2007 02:38 PM
My wife and I (we are both old guys) just did it. I had arrived with an aerial photo showing how to get there, really helpful. We went on the bike trail, against traffic. Traffic moves fast and close, but the bike trail is about 6 feet wide so it is not really dangerous. Our only problem was that the bike trail part was littered with all sorts of stuff, some really big, but lots of it just rocks that you really don't want to hit under the circumstances. Combined with a strong headwind and light rain it made the trip over a challenge. The next morning with the wind still from the South we didn't even need to pedal across, the bridge was shorter and the debris not so bad (or so it seemed).

 
tomdet from Minneapolis, MN on 10/22/2007 02:38 PM
My wife and I (we are both old guys) just did it. I had arrived with an aerial photo showing how to get there, really helpful. We went on the bike trail, against traffic. Traffic moves fast and close, but the bike trail is about 6 feet wide so it is not really dangerous. Our only problem was that the bike trail part was littered with all sorts of stuff, some really big, but lots of it just rocks that you really don't want to hit under the circumstances. Combined with a strong headwind and light rain it made the trip over a challenge. The next morning with the wind still from the South we didn't even need to pedal across, the bridge was shorter and the debris not so bad (or so it seemed).

 
Larry Erickson from Seattle, WA on 10/23/2007 07:49 PM
My wife and I just road from Sedalia to Kirkwood Amtrak last week, with an included stop over in Jefferson City. Like some others, we road against traffic over the bridge. The shoulder is quite wide and relatively safe -- certainly safer than riding in downtown rush hour traffic in Seattle, which we do often -- but it STILL is fundamentally unsafe to ride against traffic on a road. Our innkeeper said he had asked the State why they hadn't added a shoulder on both sides and was told "We couldn't," with no explanation why. The new Hermann bridge is great. The best I've ever been on for cycling. (We were able to attend the dedication ceremony while we were there.)

 
Larry Erickson from Seattle, WA on 10/23/2007 07:49 PM
My wife and I just road from Sedalia to Kirkwood Amtrak last week, with an included stop over in Jefferson City. Like some others, we road against traffic over the bridge. The shoulder is quite wide and relatively safe -- certainly safer than riding in downtown rush hour traffic in Seattle, which we do often -- but it STILL is fundamentally unsafe to ride against traffic on a road. Our innkeeper said he had asked the State why they hadn't added a shoulder on both sides and was told "We couldn't," with no explanation why. The new Hermann bridge is great. The best I've ever been on for cycling. (We were able to attend the dedication ceremony while we were there.)

 
Larry Erickson from Seattle, WA on 10/23/2007 07:49 PM
My wife and I just road from Sedalia to Kirkwood Amtrak last week, with an included stop over in Jefferson City. Like some others, we road against traffic over the bridge. The shoulder is quite wide and relatively safe -- certainly safer than riding in downtown rush hour traffic in Seattle, which we do often -- but it STILL is fundamentally unsafe to ride against traffic on a road. Our innkeeper said he had asked the State why they hadn't added a shoulder on both sides and was told "We couldn't," with no explanation why. The new Hermann bridge is great. The best I've ever been on for cycling. (We were able to attend the dedication ceremony while we were there.)

 
Trek Biker on 10/23/2007 09:43 PM
Although many people do it or have done it, myself included, the intent of the bike lane is for north bound bike traffic. And, by Missouri state law it is unlawfull to ride against the traffic flow.



There is currently an effort being made in the Jefferson City community to secure the money to build a bike/pedestrian lane for the southbound traffic.

 
Trek Biker on 10/23/2007 09:43 PM
Although many people do it or have done it, myself included, the intent of the bike lane is for north bound bike traffic. And, by Missouri state law it is unlawfull to ride against the traffic flow.



There is currently an effort being made in the Jefferson City community to secure the money to build a bike/pedestrian lane for the southbound traffic.

 
Trek Biker on 10/23/2007 09:43 PM
Although many people do it or have done it, myself included, the intent of the bike lane is for north bound bike traffic. And, by Missouri state law it is unlawfull to ride against the traffic flow.



There is currently an effort being made in the Jefferson City community to secure the money to build a bike/pedestrian lane for the southbound traffic.

 
Carol Smith from Warrensburg, MO on 04/03/2008 07:42 PM
We walked our bikes across the bridge last week, and can report that while it's doable, it's also extremely stressful and unenjoyable. It added a lot of unnecessary anxiety after a beautiful, peaceful day of cycling.



So we called a taxi the next morning to get back to the trail, rather than start our day off in such an unpleasant way. Definitely a good move on our part, although we had to wait 90 minutes for them to put the bike rack on the taxi (we were the first cyclists they had this year). They recommend giving them a heads up if you intend to use them, as they only have one vehicle with a bike rack.



By the way, thanks to Paul Marlin for the directions he provided in this forum. We printed them before our trip, and used them to easily navigate the maze of ramps and passes to get to the bridge. But there's no way we'd ever attempt his option #1. It was unpleasant enough being on the northbound side of the bridge, even with the bike lane.

 
Carol Smith from Warrensburg, MO on 04/03/2008 07:42 PM
We walked our bikes across the bridge last week, and can report that while it's doable, it's also extremely stressful and unenjoyable. It added a lot of unnecessary anxiety after a beautiful, peaceful day of cycling.



So we called a taxi the next morning to get back to the trail, rather than start our day off in such an unpleasant way. Definitely a good move on our part, although we had to wait 90 minutes for them to put the bike rack on the taxi (we were the first cyclists they had this year). They recommend giving them a heads up if you intend to use them, as they only have one vehicle with a bike rack.



By the way, thanks to Paul Marlin for the directions he provided in this forum. We printed them before our trip, and used them to easily navigate the maze of ramps and passes to get to the bridge. But there's no way we'd ever attempt his option #1. It was unpleasant enough being on the northbound side of the bridge, even with the bike lane.

 
Carol Smith from Warrensburg, MO on 04/03/2008 07:42 PM
We walked our bikes across the bridge last week, and can report that while it's doable, it's also extremely stressful and unenjoyable. It added a lot of unnecessary anxiety after a beautiful, peaceful day of cycling.



So we called a taxi the next morning to get back to the trail, rather than start our day off in such an unpleasant way. Definitely a good move on our part, although we had to wait 90 minutes for them to put the bike rack on the taxi (we were the first cyclists they had this year). They recommend giving them a heads up if you intend to use them, as they only have one vehicle with a bike rack.



By the way, thanks to Paul Marlin for the directions he provided in this forum. We printed them before our trip, and used them to easily navigate the maze of ramps and passes to get to the bridge. But there's no way we'd ever attempt his option #1. It was unpleasant enough being on the northbound side of the bridge, even with the bike lane.

 
ka3751 from saint louis on 05/28/2008 07:59 PM
Over Memorial Day weekend I crossed the bridge going south, in the south bound lanes. It was not fun. Besides risking getting hit by a car, the wall is so low I could fall off my bike over it into the river. I wasn't aware there was a should lane on the northbound lanes or I would have looked for it.

 
ka3751 from saint louis on 05/28/2008 07:59 PM
Over Memorial Day weekend I crossed the bridge going south, in the south bound lanes. It was not fun. Besides risking getting hit by a car, the wall is so low I could fall off my bike over it into the river. I wasn't aware there was a should lane on the northbound lanes or I would have looked for it.

 
ka3751 from saint louis on 05/28/2008 07:59 PM
Over Memorial Day weekend I crossed the bridge going south, in the south bound lanes. It was not fun. Besides risking getting hit by a car, the wall is so low I could fall off my bike over it into the river. I wasn't aware there was a should lane on the northbound lanes or I would have looked for it.

 
RiverBill0708 from Jefferson City on 05/29/2008 05:44 PM
If you are interested in reading about future plans,check out www.newstribune.com (the local newspaper) and do a search with (pedestrian bridge). Meanwhile phase I, the Lewis & Clark Trailhead Plaza will be dedicated on Wednesday, June 4. Come on down around 5:30 or 6 PM.

Phase II is "Taking the Katy to the Capitol." It too is coming, but the devil is in the details.

 
RiverBill0708 from Jefferson City on 05/29/2008 05:44 PM
If you are interested in reading about future plans,check out www.newstribune.com (the local newspaper) and do a search with (pedestrian bridge). Meanwhile phase I, the Lewis & Clark Trailhead Plaza will be dedicated on Wednesday, June 4. Come on down around 5:30 or 6 PM.

Phase II is "Taking the Katy to the Capitol." It too is coming, but the devil is in the details.

 
RiverBill0708 from Jefferson City on 05/29/2008 05:44 PM
If you are interested in reading about future plans,check out www.newstribune.com (the local newspaper) and do a search with (pedestrian bridge). Meanwhile phase I, the Lewis & Clark Trailhead Plaza will be dedicated on Wednesday, June 4. Come on down around 5:30 or 6 PM.

Phase II is "Taking the Katy to the Capitol." It too is coming, but the devil is in the details.

 
Anonymous on 05/30/2008 06:19 PM
I always stay in Hartsburg, just 10 mile from Jeff, just to avoid the bridge. Can get a room right on the trail. The 10 miles are easy to make up, compared to messing with the bridge both in the evening and morning. Probably less than 6 miles difference if you count the distance from the Jeff trail head into town and back.

 
Anonymous on 05/30/2008 06:19 PM
I always stay in Hartsburg, just 10 mile from Jeff, just to avoid the bridge. Can get a room right on the trail. The 10 miles are easy to make up, compared to messing with the bridge both in the evening and morning. Probably less than 6 miles difference if you count the distance from the Jeff trail head into town and back.

 
Anonymous on 05/30/2008 06:19 PM
I always stay in Hartsburg, just 10 mile from Jeff, just to avoid the bridge. Can get a room right on the trail. The 10 miles are easy to make up, compared to messing with the bridge both in the evening and morning. Probably less than 6 miles difference if you count the distance from the Jeff trail head into town and back.


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Kim from Independence, MO on 05/27/2008 11:56 AM
Just returned from a 4 day trip on the Katy from Sedalia to Hermann. CALL AHEAD. Don't count on businesses being open - even during the hours that are posted here. Apparently the economy is affecting the hours of these places in small towns.



Planned on dinner at the Riverside Diner in Boonville - they had closed at 2 pm on Wednesday.



Planned, even scheduled our trip around having dinner at Dotty's in Hartsburg - they had closed by the time we arrived at 5 pm. on Thursday (hours posted on here indicate they should have been open until 8 pm).



Nearly everything in Hermann downtown had closed by 5 pm on SATURDAY of Memorial weekend. Hermannhoff winery closed at 5 pm.



Part of the experience of biking the Katy is eating at places we don't normally get to, and we were very disappointed.



I am also sick of bar food, which we ended up living on all week. Not to slam the great Bar & Grill's in Hartsburg, Rhineland, Portland, but I like a little variety. Thanks to these establishments for being open when they say they are!

 
Pat from Home of Harry Truman on 05/30/2008 02:53 PM
Kim-My mom lives in Hartsburg, and get just as nerved as you about Dotty's. I seems now days, shes open when she wants to be, wich is a bummer if you like that homestyle cooking she's known for. I know I do....


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I have been riding the KATY for seven years now and I always enjoy staying at the B&B. Delores has always made sure that you feel comfortable and always questions if you would like something special for the continental breakfast. Nice rooms,shelter for your bike, all around great atmosphere,and great price for your room.Plan ahead for your next trip and call and reserve a room. I know you will enjoy your stay!

 
JIM from KANSAS CITY on 05/30/2008 07:46 AM
I have been riding the KATY for seven years now and I always enjoy staying at the B&B. Delores has always made sure that you feel comfortable and always questions if you would like something special for the continental breakfast. Nice rooms,shelter for your bike, all around great atmosphere,and great price for your room.Plan ahead for your next trip and call and reserve a room. I know you will enjoy your stay!

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