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miles/day?
 -  + me and my gf are in relatively good shape. We are trying to finish the entirety of the katy trail in different segments. Our first ride we did 30 miles is it possible to do 70 miles in one day if we t...
Discussion started 09/25/2005 09:45 PM by Shane - 3 replies (last reply by gretchen at 09/30/2005 09:03 PM)
Shane from St. Louis on 09/25/2005 09:45 PM
me and my gf are in relatively good shape. We are trying to finish the entirety of the katy trail in different segments. Our first ride we did 30 miles is it possible to do 70 miles in one day if we take a lunch break in the middle or is that too strenuous?

 
CSCman from Chapin, IL on 09/26/2005 10:11 AM
A friend and I have done several 60+ mile rides on the Katy. This summer we even did an 80 mile ride with gear. All of those trips started in St. Charles rode out and back in one day. I would say that being in shape 70 miles a day should be no problem.

 
Troy Ratliff from Jonesboro, AR on 09/27/2005 09:24 AM
If you're in shape, take several shorter breaks and drink plenty of fluids 70 miles should not be a problem on the KATY.

 
gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/30/2005 09:03 PM
Just back from the trail...my longest day (5 days total) was only 45 and if there had been more places along the way to stop and get food and water, a longer ride would have been a snap! This trail is FLAT...and i mean REALLY FLAT!!! I rode between 12-15mph the whole way. I was self supported too, so think light!...you'll move faster.


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Trail to Machens
 -  + I rode from Pitman Hill Rd. to the 370 Bridge this evening. I thought the trail ended there. What is the status of the trail beyond that point? It looked rideable, just not as maintained, as far as...
Discussion started 09/29/2005 08:25 PM by Ken Kelsay - 2 replies (last reply by Ray (webmaster) at 09/30/2005 03:44 PM)
Ken Kelsay from St. Charles, MO on 09/29/2005 08:25 PM
I rode from Pitman Hill Rd. to the 370 Bridge this evening. I thought the trail ended there. What is the status of the trail beyond that point? It looked rideable, just not as maintained, as far as I could see. Is it rideable for a significant distance?

 
CSCman from Chapin, IL on 09/30/2005 11:30 AM
While the trail looks like it could extend for miles more past the 370 bridge the fact is that it only goes for about maybe a mile to more further. A friend and I had headed down that way to see just how far over Labor Day weekend.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/30/2005 03:44 PM
FYI: in case you didn't catch the article about Machens in the Post Dispatch, here's what's going on with efforts to extend the trail to Machens


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Missouri State Fairgrounds (Sedalia)
 -  + We were here on the 19th. After arriving we 1st checked out the North campground. It was very nice with lots of trees & several RV's & were directed by some men with golf carts to the public campgroun...
Discussion started 09/27/2005 10:58 AM by Vickie - 0 replies
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:58 AM
We were here on the 19th. After arriving we 1st checked out the North campground. It was very nice with lots of trees & several RV's & were directed by some men with golf carts to the public campgrounds across the street. The public campground site has no trees and the shower/restroom is in horrible shape. Only the womens Handicap stall had a shower head...in the regular stall there was just a pipe sticking out. I'm ashamed of our State Fairgrounds.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:58 AM
We were here on the 19th. After arriving we 1st checked out the North campground. It was very nice with lots of trees & several RV's & were directed by some men with golf carts to the public campgrounds across the street. The public campground site has no trees and the shower/restroom is in horrible shape. Only the womens Handicap stall had a shower head...in the regular stall there was just a pipe sticking out. I'm ashamed of our State Fairgrounds.


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Community Center Park (Marthasville)
 -  + This is the ball park you see on the South side of the trail. We had to call the number listed to get the shower/restroom lights & hot water turned on. Only $5. We camped on the backside of the bal...
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Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:30 AM
This is the ball park you see on the South side of the trail. We had to call the number listed to get the shower/restroom lights & hot water turned on. Only $5. We camped on the backside of the ballfield away from the flood lights. There is a shelter hse. Mosquitos are bad but they have been everywhere so far. Womens showers (2) need some work..1 stall no shower head..both cold water knob didn't work, not getting scalded was tricky. Nice cooled water fountain & hose in front.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:30 AM
This is the ball park you see on the South side of the trail. We had to call the number listed to get the shower/restroom lights & hot water turned on. Only $5. We camped on the backside of the ballfield away from the flood lights. There is a shelter hse. Mosquitos are bad but they have been everywhere so far. Womens showers (2) need some work..1 stall no shower head..both cold water knob didn't work, not getting scalded was tricky. Nice cooled water fountain & hose in front.


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Trailside Cafe & Bike Shop (Rocheport)
 -  + Had a wonderful Portabella Mushroom burger for lunch. Very good.
Discussion started 09/27/2005 10:19 AM by Vickie - 0 replies
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:19 AM
Had a wonderful Portabella Mushroom burger for lunch. Very good.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:19 AM
Had a wonderful Portabella Mushroom burger for lunch. Very good.


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Dotty's Cafe (Hartsburg)
 -  + Stopped for some heavenly Blackberry cobbler & ice cream. Best I've ever had. They have great food, service is wonderful. Place is really spotless. You can tell Dotty loves her job. I stop here eve...
Discussion started 09/27/2005 10:16 AM by Vickie - 0 replies
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:16 AM
Stopped for some heavenly Blackberry cobbler & ice cream. Best I've ever had. They have great food, service is wonderful. Place is really spotless. You can tell Dotty loves her job. I stop here every time I do this section.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:16 AM
Stopped for some heavenly Blackberry cobbler & ice cream. Best I've ever had. They have great food, service is wonderful. Place is really spotless. You can tell Dotty loves her job. I stop here every time I do this section.


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N. Jefferson
 -  + Twice this year I have stayed at the Ramada Inn 573-635-7171. They have a Katy Special & free shuttle service from/to trailhead, ask about free Breakfast buffet coupon (during week only). Restaurant...
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Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:09 AM
Twice this year I have stayed at the Ramada Inn 573-635-7171. They have a Katy Special & free shuttle service from/to trailhead, ask about free Breakfast buffet coupon (during week only). Restaurant is moderately priced, very good food. No guest laundry but they said there was one about 1-1/2 miles away. It did take us longer to get shuttled back to the trailhead this time because they were busier...but it was free.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:09 AM
Twice this year I have stayed at the Ramada Inn 573-635-7171. They have a Katy Special & free shuttle service from/to trailhead, ask about free Breakfast buffet coupon (during week only). Restaurant is moderately priced, very good food. No guest laundry but they said there was one about 1-1/2 miles away. It did take us longer to get shuttled back to the trailhead this time because they were busier...but it was free.


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Isle of Capri Casino (Boonville)
 -  + Its worth the 4mi? ride back from the Katy Round Hse if their restaurant is closed. Bike rack directly out front. Just be certain to have a headlamp or light for coming back. PS...crossing the bridge...
Discussion started 09/27/2005 10:01 AM by Vickie - 0 replies
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:01 AM
Its worth the 4mi? ride back from the Katy Round Hse if their restaurant is closed. Bike rack directly out front. Just be certain to have a headlamp or light for coming back. PS...crossing the bridge @ night you are blinded by headlights, so be careful.....

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 10:01 AM
Its worth the 4mi? ride back from the Katy Round Hse if their restaurant is closed. Bike rack directly out front. Just be certain to have a headlamp or light for coming back. PS...crossing the bridge @ night you are blinded by headlights, so be careful.....


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Peers Store (Peers)
 -  + This is a great store with a little of everything. We arrived 2 minutes before closing and they stayed open long enought for us to buy some canned fruit, cheese & crackers. The nice lady even put th...
Discussion started 09/27/2005 09:50 AM by Vickie - 0 replies
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 09:50 AM
This is a great store with a little of everything. We arrived 2 minutes before closing and they stayed open long enought for us to buy some canned fruit, cheese & crackers. The nice lady even put the cheese in a ziplock for me. Saved us from eating at the bar in Marthasville.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 09:50 AM
This is a great store with a little of everything. We arrived 2 minutes before closing and they stayed open long enought for us to buy some canned fruit, cheese & crackers. The nice lady even put the cheese in a ziplock for me. Saved us from eating at the bar in Marthasville.


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Trailside Bar & Grill (Rhineland)
 -  + This was a great lunch stop. They grilled a bunch of vegies for me. Plus they had homemade pies barely cooled from the oven. These people are wonderful...Friendliest we met on the entire trail.
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Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 09:31 AM
This was a great lunch stop. They grilled a bunch of vegies for me. Plus they had homemade pies barely cooled from the oven. These people are wonderful...Friendliest we met on the entire trail.

 
Vickie from Kansas City Mo on 09/27/2005 09:31 AM
This was a great lunch stop. They grilled a bunch of vegies for me. Plus they had homemade pies barely cooled from the oven. These people are wonderful...Friendliest we met on the entire trail.


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Polly's Perch (Pilot Grove)
 -  + Polly's is a little piece of heaven. A very nice lady who runs a lovely bed and breakfast a stone's throw from the Katy Trail. She will make you a breakfast fit for a lumberjack.

Also, abou...
Discussion started 09/07/2005 09:53 AM by Craig - 1 reply (last reply by anonymous at 09/23/2005 03:28 PM)
Craig from columbia, mo on 09/07/2005 09:53 AM
Polly's is a little piece of heaven. A very nice lady who runs a lovely bed and breakfast a stone's throw from the Katy Trail. She will make you a breakfast fit for a lumberjack.



Also, about a ten minute walk from her place is John El's BBQ, open on Friday and Saturday only. Definitely worth a visit as well.

 
Craig from columbia, mo on 09/07/2005 09:53 AM
Polly's is a little piece of heaven. A very nice lady who runs a lovely bed and breakfast a stone's throw from the Katy Trail. She will make you a breakfast fit for a lumberjack.



Also, about a ten minute walk from her place is John El's BBQ, open on Friday and Saturday only. Definitely worth a visit as well.

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2005 03:28 PM
Another place clost to the trail in Pilot Grove is "Becky's Burgers & Cones" Everything is homemade!!!

 
Anonymous on 09/23/2005 03:28 PM
Another place clost to the trail in Pilot Grove is "Becky's Burgers & Cones" Everything is homemade!!!


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Riding
 -  + I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?
Discussion started 03/07/2005 08:33 AM by Doug - 11 replies (last reply by Doug at 09/23/2005 03:18 PM)
Doug from Saint Charles on 03/07/2005 08:33 AM
I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 03/07/2005 08:33 AM
I was wondering if anyone has put together a Katy Trail race?

 
Ray (webmaster) on 03/09/2005 12:51 PM
I assume you're talking about bike races -- surprisingly, I am not aware of any. Other than the Race Across America, which uses a small part of the Katy Trail, but you have to ride the other 3000 miles to participate in this coast-to-coast race!



On the other hand, there are usually a few running races on the trail each year. The Lewis & Clark Marathon uses part of the trail near St Charles each September, and there are usually a handful of other 5K/10K type foot races every year.



If/when I learn about any races, whether running or cycling, I'll add them to the Events Page.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 03/09/2005 12:51 PM
I assume you're talking about bike races -- surprisingly, I am not aware of any. Other than the Race Across America, which uses a small part of the Katy Trail, but you have to ride the other 3000 miles to participate in this coast-to-coast race!



On the other hand, there are usually a few running races on the trail each year. The Lewis & Clark Marathon uses part of the trail near St Charles each September, and there are usually a handful of other 5K/10K type foot races every year.



If/when I learn about any races, whether running or cycling, I'll add them to the Events Page.

 
Dave from Carrollton, TX on 06/15/2005 01:29 AM
Don't believe racing is the purpose of the Katy Trail...or any trail.

 
Dave from Carrollton, TX on 06/15/2005 01:29 AM
Don't believe racing is the purpose of the Katy Trail...or any trail.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 07/06/2005 01:24 PM
Who are you to say what the Katy is for? Of course it is for relaxing but can also be used for Mountain Bike racing.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 07/06/2005 01:24 PM
Who are you to say what the Katy is for? Of course it is for relaxing but can also be used for Mountain Bike racing.

 
Trail Rider from Los Angeles on 07/06/2005 03:31 PM
I thought about this while riding the trail the other day. While I took four days to do the ride, if we went more minimalist on the gear, I think the whole trail could be done in around 15 hours. There were so few trail users during the time we were on the trail, I don't think that a group of riders going 20mph would be a problem at all. The Katy trail is a bike path, and racing is riding.

 
Trail Rider from Los Angeles on 07/06/2005 03:31 PM
I thought about this while riding the trail the other day. While I took four days to do the ride, if we went more minimalist on the gear, I think the whole trail could be done in around 15 hours. There were so few trail users during the time we were on the trail, I don't think that a group of riders going 20mph would be a problem at all. The Katy trail is a bike path, and racing is riding.

 
Nails on 07/12/2005 08:19 AM
A small portion of the Heart of America (Columbia) Marathon also uses the KATY trail.
http://ctc.coin.org/hoa/course.htm

As reported on this website, Sam Baugh rode the KATY trail in one day.
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/samreport.asp

 
Nails on 07/12/2005 08:19 AM
A small portion of the Heart of America (Columbia) Marathon also uses the KATY trail.
http://ctc.coin.org/hoa/course.htm

As reported on this website, Sam Baugh rode the KATY trail in one day.
http://www.bikekatytrail.com/samreport.asp

 
Doug from Saint Charles Missouri on 08/23/2005 03:12 PM
Thanks Everyone. I plan on starting up a Katy Race this fall. 5 mile dash.

 
Doug from Saint Charles Missouri on 08/23/2005 03:12 PM
Thanks Everyone. I plan on starting up a Katy Race this fall. 5 mile dash.

 
Sue from Balwin, Mo. on 09/09/2005 10:27 AM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

 
Sue from Balwin, Mo. on 09/09/2005 10:27 AM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/09/2005 01:31 PM
That's what I appreciate the Katy for, but it is a state park and Missouri State Park rules apply. It lends itself to many people for many uses. Groups have been known to host benefit rides on the Katy...not for site seeing, but to raise money for their cause.



Looking at the DNR website, it appears that the park can be used for other things. According to the DNR website:



Special Event Permits



All groups or organizations desiring to use Katy Trail State Park for a special event activity must obtain a special event permit from the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. E-mail or call 1-800-334-6946 for information on how to obtain a special event permit.


 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/09/2005 01:31 PM
That's what I appreciate the Katy for, but it is a state park and Missouri State Park rules apply. It lends itself to many people for many uses. Groups have been known to host benefit rides on the Katy...not for site seeing, but to raise money for their cause.



Looking at the DNR website, it appears that the park can be used for other things. According to the DNR website:



Special Event Permits



All groups or organizations desiring to use Katy Trail State Park for a special event activity must obtain a special event permit from the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. E-mail or call 1-800-334-6946 for information on how to obtain a special event permit.


 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 12:54 PM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

- posted 9/9/2005 10:28:00 AM by Sue , Balwin, Mo

Hey Sue stay home and knit something.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 12:54 PM
The KATY is for SITE SEEING not RACING.

- posted 9/9/2005 10:28:00 AM by Sue , Balwin, Mo

Hey Sue stay home and knit something.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/23/2005 02:18 PM
I agree that the Katy Trail is great for site seeing, AND racing, but let's not get any flame wars going.



I would bet that most people who participate in such a race have already had previous, more leisurely experiences on the trail. Racers who have not used the Katy in a more relaxed manner, will probably be tempted to come back for an easy run/ride after getting a taste of it during the race.



Doug, let me know if/when you organize the race, and I'll help publicize it through this website.

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/23/2005 02:18 PM
I agree that the Katy Trail is great for site seeing, AND racing, but let's not get any flame wars going.



I would bet that most people who participate in such a race have already had previous, more leisurely experiences on the trail. Racers who have not used the Katy in a more relaxed manner, will probably be tempted to come back for an easy run/ride after getting a taste of it during the race.



Doug, let me know if/when you organize the race, and I'll help publicize it through this website.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 03:18 PM
I'm sorry Ray. Didn't mean to lash back at Sue the Rule maker of the Katy trail. I'll instead use my energy for the good an put this race in motion.

 
Doug from Saint Charles on 09/23/2005 03:18 PM
I'm sorry Ray. Didn't mean to lash back at Sue the Rule maker of the Katy trail. I'll instead use my energy for the good an put this race in motion.


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Raise your hand: riders on the trail Sept. 25-30...east to west
 -  + Anyone riding the trail from Sept 25-30th going east to west...
raise your hand. My friend and i will be starting in St. Charles and going to Sedalia.
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gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/22/2005 11:14 AM
Anyone riding the trail from Sept 25-30th going east to west...

raise your hand. My friend and i will be starting in St. Charles and going to Sedalia.


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Planning a trip
 -  + We would like to drive from Memphis to Rocheport and spend the night then ride the trail the next day to Hartsburg. Does anyone know of a shuttle that will take us from Hartsburg back to our car at R...
Discussion started 09/10/2005 09:40 AM by slp - 3 replies (last reply by gretchen at 09/22/2005 07:16 AM)
slp from Memphis on 09/10/2005 09:40 AM
We would like to drive from Memphis to Rocheport and spend the night then ride the trail the next day to Hartsburg. Does anyone know of a shuttle that will take us from Hartsburg back to our car at Rocheport?



Thanks,

 
Rob from Liberty, MO on 09/10/2005 08:21 PM
I would call or e-mail the Trailside Cafe and Bike shop at Rocheport or Hartsburg Cycle Depot at Hartsburg.

http://www.trailsidecafebike.com/

http://www.hartsburg-cycledepot.com/hartsburg_cycle_depot_001.htm

 
Ray (webmaster) on 09/11/2005 08:49 AM
Also, here's a link to a list of Katy Trail shuttle services - you might want to call a few to check prices and availability.

 
gretchen from glen ellyn, il on 09/22/2005 07:16 AM
I'm riding from St. Charles to Sedalia this Sunday-Thurs...anyone planning on being out there? Maybe we'll see each other!


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Trail Conditions
 -  + I will be biking the trail on a hybrid bike from Sedalia to St Charles starting this Friday. I would like to know the conditions of the trail: any sandy or washed-out areas to watch out for? I had rea...
Discussion started 09/20/2005 09:33 PM by bikerLaura - 2 replies (last reply by Trek Biker at 09/21/2005 04:54 PM)
bikerLaura from Round Lake, IL on 09/20/2005 09:33 PM
I will be biking the trail on a hybrid bike from Sedalia to St Charles starting this Friday. I would like to know the conditions of the trail: any sandy or washed-out areas to watch out for? I had read a while back about a segment near Hartsburg being washed-out.

 
frank from festus, mo on 09/20/2005 11:40 PM
rode from hartsburg to no jefferson and back in late july / early august. bouts 2-3 miles east of hartsburg, there were numerous areas that was like soft powder. other than that, great riding. have fun / good luck.

 
Trek Biker from St. Joseph, MO on 09/21/2005 04:54 PM
There is a button (Trail Conditions) a few down from the Comments button that got you here......try that or check out Missouri State Parks at http://www.mostateparks.com/katytrail/conditions.htm


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Hermann
 -  + Before the trip, kept getting told that the Hermann bridge was death. It wasn't really that bad to me or my riding buddy. Perhaps I'm getting to be an experienced cyclist. Very cute city. Stayed i...
Discussion started 02/22/2005 04:07 PM by Tommy - 2 replies (last reply by Greg at 09/21/2005 10:28 AM)
Tommy from Lawrence, KS on 02/22/2005 04:07 PM
Before the trip, kept getting told that the Hermann bridge was death. It wasn't really that bad to me or my riding buddy. Perhaps I'm getting to be an experienced cyclist. Very cute city. Stayed in the city park with a bunch of friendly RVers. Never figured out how to pay a fee, so didn't. The Hermann bike shop is a very minimal affair. He had the tool I needed to borrow (lockring remover), though I was certainly more adept at using it. Don't expect major repair work.

 
JULIA from HERMANN on 09/04/2005 08:05 PM
THE REASON FOR THE MINIMAL SERVICE AT THE BIKE SHOP IS BECAUSE IT IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY OML ONE OR TWO MEN

 
Greg from KC on 09/21/2005 10:28 AM
Any bike rental shops in Hermann? May need to rent bikes for a couple of people for an afternoon of fun on the Katy Trail on Friday Sept. 30th. Price? Contact? We will be doing a little party/happy hour ride that afternoon/evening. We're staying the weekend so this will be our "opening" activities. Any info is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Greg (aka: "Coach" 20+ years of ragbrai)

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