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The Touring Cyclist Shuttle in St Charles
JAY KRAEMER from MADISON, WI on 03/25/2019 11:59 AM
I am planning a bike trip to do the entire Katy Trail in September. There will be one, potentially 2 vehicles, 4-6 people. We are looking for someone who can move our vehicles to our destinations as we make the trip. We plan on riding roughly 60 miles per day. Is there a service available that will move our vehicle(s) for us? Or is it best to take a shuttle back to the starting point to pick up our vehicles. You can email me at jayLkraemer@gmail.com with the answer if that is preferred.

Connection to Rock Island?
Christine from Independence on 03/25/2019 09:31 AM
Wondering if you know when the connection to the Rock Island line will be complete to Raytown? We are anxious to get on the Katy/Rock Island from our neck of the woods!

Rock Island trail info on this site
francesty from Detroit on 03/21/2019 09:36 PM
I'm having a hard time using the Trip Planner function for the Rock Island Trail using this site. It keeps defaulting back to the Katy Trail when I click refresh Trip planner. Trying to find info from Windsor to Lee's Summit gives you all the Katy Trail info from Sedalia going east to St. Charles. Is this being worked on? Thanks

Ray (webmaster) on 03/21/2019 10:46 PM
Thank you for pointing that out. It's definitely not working right when any part of the Rock Island is included.

I will investigate the problem and get it fixed. Thanks again for the heads up.

Ray (webmaster) on 03/23/2019 09:46 AM
The Trip Planner is now working correctly. Having the intersecting trails presented some challenges, but it's all good now.

Side note: I had to take Lee's Summit out of the list of towns because it's not yet connected to the Rock Island Trail. You need to use roads to get from Lee's Summit to the Rock Island Trail, but the Trip Planner is totally trail-based, so you'll have to use Pleasant Hill ast the starting town.

Thanks again for letting me know about the earlier problem!

Happy trails!

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/23/2019 11:37 AM
Thanks for always keeping this site so user friendly Ray!

francesty from Detroit on 03/25/2019 09:08 AM
Thanks so much, it makes it so easy to plan a rip!

Dutzow to Washington bridge
Woodchuck on 03/18/2019 07:21 AM
What is the status of getting from Dutzow to Washington across the bridge? Is there a bike lane on bridge? Shuttle? Taxi? Would prefer not to ride across in car lane if at all possible. Thanks.

Allen from Shawnee on 03/18/2019 08:49 AM
There was a recent discussion on this and a person who lives there says the bridge is open but bike path is not complete and open yet. There is a 10 foot shoulder next to the travel lanes for cars on the bridge, so you wouldn’t be traveling in lane with cars. Keep in mind if you are really afraid of traveling around cars that the route from the trail to the bridge is along a hiway with a shoulder and some of the riding in towns will be around cars.

Travis from Mexico, Mo on 03/23/2019 01:49 PM
Does the bridge connecting Dutzow and Washington have a a bike/pedestrian lane at this time? Just looking into lodging in Washington only if a bike lane is complete.

Hank on 03/23/2019 07:38 PM
The bike lane is not open and won't be open until mid-2019. I don't think MoDOT has given a date. However the new bridge has 10-ft shoulders which are fine for bike riding. Highway 47 south from Dutzow has 8-ft shoulders and this is a busy highway. It is doable though not ideal in my opinion. I live in this area and would have no concerns at all crossing the new bridge on the wide shoulders, but am not a big fan of the Highway 47 stretch with the narrow shoulders and high traffic.

Augusta Bottom Road is an option, though this is a gravel road that is also pretty highly trafficked. In dry weather the gravel gets extremely dusty and really is not a good option. It is tempting to take this route because it is a more direct route to / from Augusta on the Katy Trail, but it too is not ideal.

Dave from Kirkwood on 03/23/2019 11:29 PM
I was on the bridge today (in a car en route to Marthasville trailhead). Hank explains the situation very well. My only extra comment is that one needs to be careful getting onto or off the bridge (with nice wide shoulder) given the construction. The shoulder currently disappears on both ends, so one may need to wait for a break in cars to get on or off the bridge safely.

Floods of 2019
Russell Williams from Colorado Springs on 03/22/2019 09:09 PM
We are planning a spring ride across the K. Trail. BUT can someone tell us about the situation with the snow melt and floods in the area? How will it mpact the Missouri River? Thanks so much.

Hank on 03/23/2019 07:41 PM
This will be your best source of info for the spring flooding: https://mostateparks.com/advisories?parks=53010

Unfortunately it does look like the Katy will be impacted by flooding this spring.

Book: Cycling the Katy Trail by Neil Hanson
Jerry Whittle from Belleville on 01/19/2019 09:12 PM
I just finished it and it's a good read. The first part is the standard how to get from point A to point B on the Katy. The second part is more about the towns and B&Bs he said at and reflections of things he observed on the Katy.

It mentions this web site often so he must have used it frequently.

Phil from SC on 03/20/2019 01:02 PM
How current is information? I was excited to get a katy trail book by another author but after reading half of it I discovered it was written 12 years ago.

Jerry Whittle from Belleville IL on 03/21/2019 12:08 PM
I was published in July 2018 so really current.

Ray (webmaster) on 03/21/2019 12:20 PM
FYI, I looked around Amazon and pulled together all the books I could find related to the Katy Trail, plus other related topics that might be of interest. You can see the books at guide-books.aspx

If you click through and view the book info in Amazon, it will have publication date, edition number, etc - so you can see how current the book is, plus read reviews, etc.

Full disclosure: Amazon will pay me a commission if you buy stuff from them after clicking through links on the guide-books.aspx web page.

Rebecca from Ames on 03/21/2019 05:03 PM
I have Neil's book. The data are from their trip in 2016. With all the floods going down the Missouri from Iowa and Nebraska, hoping there are no washouts. There is a festival the week following our journey, so I hope the stores, cafes,etc. will be open. I plan to call a week or two in advance, since we prefer to eat from the establishments along the route, rather than take our own. Any information is appreciated. Thanks.

Annette Barnes from Clinton on 03/23/2019 11:13 AM
I have the book Pilgrim Ways signed by Neil Hanson which was published in 2016. He came and stayed with us in October 2013 and we are mentioned in the book. I don't know if we are mentioned in his new book. I own the www.HayslerHouse.com in Clinton. However, a friend ran into him in Washington, DC in 2018 and he mentioned to her that he had stayed with us and enjoyed his stay.

Tracy K. from Allentown on 03/22/2019 10:21 AM
I have a trip planned for early June along the Katy Trail. I understand that there may have been some damage due to the terrible storms and flooding MO just experienced. Does anyone know if the trail was impacted? If so, what degree of damage is there and your thoughts on whether it will be usable by June?

Jerry Whittle from Belleville IL on 03/22/2019 03:02 PM
There is some flooding now plus some storm damage. However the Missouri Parks employees do an outstanding job of fixing the trail. Short of some more flooding or severe storms closer to June, I bet you will be OK. I sure hope so as I'll be riding from Clinton to St. Charles in mid-June.

If the trail is soggy, your best defense are the fattest tires your bike can handle and maybe some fenders.

Weather and conditions
EAE from Wyoming on 03/16/2019 06:49 AM
How is the condition of the trail, and weather for biking in early April? Can hotels be booked last minute that time of year?

Rex McCall from Springfield,MO on 03/16/2019 10:56 AM
The temperature is not bad, especially towards the end of the month. The average high on April 1 is in the lower 60s, but by the last week of the month, it is in the lower 70s. The biggest problem will be rain, since it is one of our wettest months. That can lead to wash-outs along the trail and, occasionally, flooding. The Park is pretty good about repairing the trail in the warmer months.

As for hotels, it all depends on the town and day of the week. The ones in the St. Charles Historic District and in Hermann tend to fill up on the weekends, quickly. Still, you should be able to find one in St. Charles, although it might be a mile or two from the trail. I've not been to Hermann in April, but my guess is it probably doesn't get too busy until after school lets out in May. Sunday through Thursday is usually not a problem for any town. I think you will have no trouble getting a room in Clinton, Sedalia, Boonville, Jeff City, or Washington.

Phil from SC on 03/20/2019 07:41 AM
Does anyone know if any parts of the trail have been affected by the recent flooding?

Kim Henderson - Kim's Cabins, Windsor from Windsor on 03/20/2019 09:08 AM
I believe this is kept up to date

Rex McCall from Springfield,MO on 03/20/2019 11:34 AM
This is from the state park web site (mostateparks.com):

Katy Trail State Park is temporarily closed at the following locations due to flooding:

-- The trail will be closed due to anticipated flooding at 2:30 p.m. on Fri., Mar. 22 west of the Rocheport tunnel (approximately MM 178.6). Trail users should follow the detour that will be posted. (effective Mar. 22)
-- MM 34 - 35, east of St. Charles. (effective Mar. 20)

In addition, Easley River Road/Smith Hatchery Road near MM 162 is under water. While the road is under water, the trail between Route N (MM 162.5) and Little Bonne Femme Creek bridge (MM 163.6) will be opened to local vehicular traffic in this area so users need to exercise caution and expect to encounter vehicles on the trail.

For information on potential flood impacts to the trail, please visit the Potential Flood Locations page.

shuttle service?
Phil from SC on 03/20/2019 07:51 AM
We plan to ride east to west at this point, and might take amtrak to st. louis area but how do we get to st. charles then to begin our ride? can we ride our bikes there safely or are there any shuttle services?

Tyler's Market in Pilot Grove
Allen from Shawnee on 03/20/2019 07:19 AM
This business has been closed for several,years.

Tebbetts Trailhead
Nita from Austin on 03/18/2019 08:59 PM
Can I leave a car at the Tebbets, Missouri Trailhead for a couple of days? Is it safe? Is there any place to lock up bikes overnight at the hostel?

Allen from Shaenee, Ks on 03/19/2019 05:54 AM
I have left my car at the Tebbits trailhead overnight without any problem. There is an indoor bike storage room at the Hostel that is locked and secure no problem here either.
This is a small town with very few residents or problems.
Have a good trip

Anonymous on 03/19/2019 09:04 AM
We too have left our vehicle at the Tebbetts trailhead without incident and would again without worrying about it.

Marthasville to Treloar
Matt from Wentzville on 03/17/2019 08:26 PM
I took my first ride on the Katy yesterday on the stretch mentioned in the subject line. The condition of the trail was very rough from what I guess to be tractor traffic. My assumption is they drove on it when the trail was wet. It was like riding on a washboard for most of the trip. Does anyone know if there is maintenance done to the trail to repair things like that? Thanks!

Anonymous on 03/19/2019 09:02 AM
Yes the DNR maintains the trail.

Eber Haus Inn in Hartsburg
Maureen from Arizona on 11/03/2017 03:00 PM
The Eber Haus was one of the best experiences we had doing the entire Katy Trail. Sarah and Carl were wonderful and so entertaining. The food was Amazing!! The accommodations were great. We needed a night like this to recover from a long wet couple of days. Perfect! Thank you so much Sarah and Carl!

Sarah from Hartsburg on 11/06/2017 01:51 PM
You all were our pleasure to serve! Best! Sarah n Carl

John R Hibbing from Lincoln, NE on 03/18/2019 01:36 PM
We were hoping to book two rooms on June 7. Do you have any available? We have heard good things about your establishment. My email is jhibbing@unl.edu. Thank you for your help and I look forward to hearing from you.
John Hibbing

Anonymous on 03/18/2019 01:59 PM
They may find you here....and maybe not.

It maybe best to contact directly to make your lodging reservations instead of the shotgun approach on an open forum.

Ray (webmaster) on 03/18/2019 05:21 PM
I'm sorry to say that Eber Haus will be closing on May 10. We'll be sad to see them go.

There are other lodging options in Hartsburg and other nearby towns. As mentioned above, you'll have better results if you contact the inns directly.

Good luck and happy trails.

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